How Strong? Archer Tank Destroyer | 3v3 | Company of Heroes 3

Sarge & team go to war on the newest 3v3 map in the latest update of Company of Heroes 3.
Music:
Breaking Sky · Nick Froud
Epic Scores, Vol. 1
℗ 2020 Tunetank
Released on: 2020-05-10
Publisher: @tunetankmusic
Composer: @nickfroud
Album: Epic Scores Vol. 1 (2020)
Big Thanks to "Cpl.Chen" on the official CoH3 Discord for the awesome screenshot in the thumbnail.
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[@user-uq2lh8kp9w]

Never giving up is one of the most underrated tactics that you could have in COH.

[@SargeGG]

I honestly couldn’t agree more, it’s very common for players to lose morale and become discouraged but it’s never over. There are many opportunities for comebacks with the proper strategy and tactics.

[@ambassadorbarak2884]

@@SargeGG thats why i hate when ppl surrender when its just 10 minutes in the game, those archers are nice though

[@SargeGG]

@@ambassadorbarak2884 I’ve seen that a lot as well, people lose morale and quit too early and especially in randoms. But there are also a lot of players who will fight it out.

[@nateums]

You have balls for posting this bc of the result.. I won’t spoil it. I feel like priority on arty and heavy AT is a must with 3v3+, and remember that a 260mp mortar will stop a 17 pounder with smoke ;)… either way it was an amazing match!

[@SargeGG]

Hey Nate, appreciate that man, I post every competitive match regardless of the result. And I totally agree with your analysis. I needed quicker MG followed up by artillery support and heavy AT. I really regret not getting a quicker Flak Gun with artillery cover and smoke, as you stated. I definitely could have held the center much better. 🫡 Glad you enjoyed the match, GG!

[@SoldierofFortune3]

Epic game! Loving the new update.

[@SargeGG]

🫡 the new update is awesome, glad you’re enjoying it! Cheers 🍻

[@glennpeyton537]

Wow. It ain't over til it's over. You made a good comment in game about how you maybe should have gone for a mortar 250. In hindsight, having some good constant indirect could have put more of a dent in those blobs.

[@SargeGG]

Absolutely, converting my 250 half tracks to mortars and also going for LEIG artillery support would have really helped control the center. I could have followed up with a FLAK gun for heavy Anti-tank and then eventually Tiger and walking Stuka. As you said, the blobs and Matilda’s were just too efficient. They fought hard though, WP to the opposing team for making a tough comeback, 🫡 GG!

[@sethv9039]

Impressive match to watch! The Tigers had a buff too.

[@SargeGG]

Glad you enjoyed it, Seth! And yeah, absolutely loving the new Tiger change, game is feeling amazing right now.

[@daddykadyn9916]

can’t wait to watch this banger

[@SargeGG]

Awesome, hope you enjoy it brother!

[@seanw8005]

Thanks for uploading, us console players gotta wait a bit (hopefully just a bit) longer to try out the new battlegroups ourselves - keep up the great content!

[@SargeGG]

Hey Sean, thanks so much brother, I will definitely keep up the content. Thank you for the support! And yes, I am really hoping that console update is in the next couple months. Especially because this is such a great patch for the game overall. Fingers crossed and I will do my best to keep the community updated 🫡

[@hamzaasif8136]

finally a worthy opponent to the TIGER tank. Would love to do 3v3 and 4v4 but don't have a team. wish to have a team like this

[@SargeGG]

Yeah exactly, the Archer is a great hard counter to the Tiger. And you are more than welcome to join the Sarge HQ discord, we have a great community of people and players here at the link below. Just make sure to verify yourself by hitting “thumbs up 👍” and accepting the server rules - discord.gg/N7HaeV6z

[@hamzaasif8136]

@@SargeGG thanks for the invite. Will definitely join today.👍

[@SargeGG]

@@hamzaasif8136 Awesome

[@MrSmokincodz]

That was a great game. What a beautiful map.

[@SargeGG]

Thanks Terp, GG! And absolutely, the new 3v3 and 4v4 maps are both great. Really happy about them because they play so differently.

[@icemanUH]

@@SargeGG I find pathfinding at the middle VP is bugged. Especially when you move from there to bottom.

[@SargeGG]

@@icemanUH Oh interesting, I have only played the map a couple times but I’ll keep that in mind. If units get stuck or take the wrong path etc…

[@JohnYoga]

Hello Sarge, Thank you for posting. The video went blank from 33:59 - 34:40. Archer Tanks seem too powerful. Also your leading with those two tanks and losing them quickly did not help matters.

[@SargeGG]

Oh wow, that was an editing mistake that I unfortunately did not notice. Thank you so much for letting me know, i really appreciate that and it should be resolved soon. 🫡❤️You’re the man, John! But yeah, Archer is very powerful. However, I did not take the proper approach. Instead of rushing for Tiger, I needed more artillery support and a Flak Gun. To help me hold ground buy time for the Tiger to hit the battlefield.

[@arthurcarmo7546]

I dont think the Tiger was a bad call, but somewere in the game you forgot the battlegroup tatics and couldn use it ambushes against superior range. Allas, great game as aways

[@SargeGG]

Yeah definitely, I also felt like I was not utilizing the new battlegroup in an optimal way. I think that was a major reason for me losing the center of the map. Good learning lesson, as It was my 2nd game trying espionage. Glad you enjoyed the match Arthur, GG!

[@dihomie]

Hi Chief, I had the same problem as Shark here during the game - attacking a team weapon units makes my squads go the opposite random direction... :/ have you noticed that ?

[@SargeGG]

Hey dihomie, yes I have noticed that at times. Very odd bug haha but hopefully it gets fixed soon.

[@Sandman90009]

Hell yeah love seeing a Tiger come out!

[@SargeGG]

Really loving the Tigers in this new update!

[@TreadCarefully423]

Hey Sarge, how were your panzergrens getting Lmg's is that something they added in latest patch or am I completely missing something? Thanks and awesome match! 😊

[@SargeGG]

Hey Tread, glad you enjoyed the match brother! You can actually upgrade your PanzerGrens with LMGs after unlocking the Tier 1.5 or Tier 2 tech buildings. They each cost 100 munitions but it really improves the effectiveness of your squad’s. I hope that helps!

[@TreadCarefully423]

@@SargeGG ooooooh ok you had dak pgrens not the wehr stg44 pgrens... I think that's where I was confused... I think 😆

[@SargeGG]

@@TreadCarefully423 Oh yes exactly. It can be confusing because of the same name and symbols. Relic should make it more clear haha

[@Herogus3xD]

Priority is always on the +1- fuel points on this map. Mid is just empty anyways.

[@SargeGG]

Yeah, it's a good point Hero

[@user-uq2lh8kp9w]

You are a very good player.

[@SargeGG]

Thanks Lonny, really appreciate the kind words and support for the channel! Much love brother 🫡❤️

[@JohnstyPonst]

Great game man! Don’t forget that they made the armored reserve call ins much cheaper. P3 for 300 mp is a bad deal compared to a P4 + assgrens for 400.

[@SargeGG]

Thanks Koira, glad you enjoyed the match brother, and I agree with that. Perhaps deploying P4 call-ins and P3s a little earlier would have stabilized the game for me, allowing me to control the center and eventually follow up with a Tiger around 25 mins. GG!

[@antoinegrebac]

You need flak before the tiger, if you do that you can Killing the first Mathilda And he protect your tiger /archer

[@SargeGG]

@@antoinegrebac Exactly, I totally agree with that analysis antoin. It would’ve really changed the game for me.

[@ChristianSt97]

what are the numbers on top of your units?

[@SargeGG]

Hey Christian, those are called “Unit control groups” that I assigned to my units, so I can select them by selecting the number on my keyboard rather than the mouse. I did a hotkey tutorial video on this last year which you can find here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4iaoaqAgaagf5Isi=79ABHbZ4TUrftUH3

[@ChristianSt97]

@@SargeGG thank you

[@SargeGG]

@@ChristianSt97 🫡

[@user-uq2lh8kp9w]

Trying something new with Italian coastline. The bunkers are very powerful tool. Prepositioned bunkers to fall back on if pushes. I’ve been spamming “rapid fortifications” bunkers when ever it’s cooled down around important targets and after seizing ground. The enemy has to deal with the bunkers which cost them time and resources.

[@SargeGG]

That’s awesome, I love that play style with the Italian Coastal. You can have a lot of “strength in depth” and create strong support lines for your infantry and artillery support. Also, you can even combine the bunkers with the “designate defensive line” for added bonuses.

[@user-uq2lh8kp9w]

@@SargeGG they got rid of the healing effect of “designated defensive line” that ability is dead. They also slowed build speed for sand bags and mines.

[@user-uq2lh8kp9w]

@@SargeGG bill times are reduced by 25% from 50% bonus to 25% bonus

[@SargeGG]

@@user-uq2lh8kp9w Yeah, I think they nerf’d the ability too much. Perhaps they should have removed vehicle repair but kept unit healing. Or vice versa. I still think it’s strong because of the infantry bonuses but nowhere near as strong as it used to be, as you mentioned.

[@user-uq2lh8kp9w]

@@SargeGG can coastal be competitive with other battle groups in your opinion

[@asgardplays7139]

Are allies still better even after patch?

[@SargeGG]

Hey asgard, not necessarily, I don’t think Allies are OP like before. I believe we just made some key mistakes as the game progressed, while our opponents did a good job of being proactive and capitalizing on their momentum.

[@Scott-yl5gi]

Wrong commader choice if feels?

[@SargeGG]

Yeah, in hindsight, I would have been much better off with a different commander. Especially because I didn’t utilize Espionage to its best potential either.

[@Scott-yl5gi]

@@SargeGG it’s a good commander you chose, but personal it feels like you won’t know if it will work or not in the fight until your a good 10min into the game, by then the other commanders will have already given you something

[@itwasjustaluck]

22:45 they mainly blobing infantry...Comment with view of mirror. Lol From the beginning of the game you can see a lot of tactics and as it goes towards the end there is less and less tactics... a game where everything comes down to the mass from the infantry to the mass of tanks (blobs). Due to the not so big map in Coh3 for 4v4, the players are limited from some great tactics, on such area of ​​the map... Almost the entire battle from both sides in 4v4 boils down to who will accumulate a bigger army and overrun the opponent. No offense but SargeGG gameplay was all about a small circle in the middle of the map around a cap star, but what else could he do there, he has to play in that middle.

[@SargeGG]

Interesting but I don’t necessarily agree. Do you feel a larger map would solve this issue? Do you feel COH2 does a better job of addressing this?

[@itwasjustaluck]

@@SargeGG ist not about coh 2 ist whole trilogy, it is about map size in 4v4 games, in my opinion could be bigger... For example in this game you can see almost whole time you entirety army on screen... While in 1v1 you can't, more tactically you infantry must be play (having whole time 3-4 infantry in group with medical truck to heal them, is good to hold and push one smal area, but that means you will lose easily map control, especially in start middle game).

[@rifleshooter8606]

It sucks playing against blobs of rifles. As they have 3 infantry them selves that just run back to the med truck.

[@SargeGG]

Yeah, all part of the game, and I needed to address those issues much more effectively. I was too passive, waiting to tech for Tiger, and I allowed them to gain the initiative.

[@Pascalovic]

In the mid are brits. Are the all brits? Yes.... xD

[@SargeGG]

LOL

[@brasso4984]

Aussies at the moment are weak.

[@SargeGG]

Yeah, they don’t seem particularly strong tbh

[@seanw8005]

Aww that's a shame, I'm on console and looking forward to this battlegroup (I heard last patch shifted favor back to Axis in general, if true fingers crossed they get the balance better because the new groups look like fun!)

[@todiaxe]

It is strong if you can get to at least 2 stars. Instant kill 1 with ability and at 3 stars will instant kill any infantry with low hp with regular shots.

[@SargeGG]

@@todiaxe Yes exactly, Step is right, the unit scales very well for a mainline infantry. The Vet 2 and Vet 3 “Sharpshooter” ability allows for you to drop enemy models quickly and win fights, so the Aussie infantry are good supportive units to the main British infantry sections

[@SargeGG]

@@seanw8005 Yeah, it’s still too early to tell but it’s a very promising battlegroup overall IMO. I am really enjoying the Aussies