How stupid is this??? Or is it brilliant and WE'RE dumb? Line 6 HX One... a rant!

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So, Line 6 dropped the HX One today and already, within minutes it has garnered some King Don... I Mean King Kong sized hate. Not quite sure why but here are some thoughts from the resident moron running this YT channel... Also, there's some potty talk... you've been warned!
#line6 #line6helix #line6hxstomp

[@NedJeffery]

This pedal is a perfect addition to a small board. Just say you already have your favourite delay, and TS that you use all the time. But then you kinda want a phaser, a reverb, a pitch shifter, a fuzz, a flanger, etc. But you only use those for like 1 song or something. This is perfect for that situation. small board, huge versatility.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yep. Exactly right. Thanks for checking it out.

[@vparikh08]

I don't understand people hating on this? The Lin6 M5 is just about on every session player's pedal board. This is an upgrade in EVERY way and so I don't get whey everyone feels the need to scream about this. I will tell you this - these are going to fly off the shelfs faster than they can make them. People ranting about this are just seeking clicks and attention. I have mine on order from Sweetwater already. This is going to make a nice little pedalboard -- Keeley Mini Com > Boss OD-200 > HX One > Boss DD-500 -- Rock on!

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah I don’t get it either. I assume you watched my vid and know I’m a supporter of it. It’s a brilliant pedal. I actually saw a KZbinr who said anyone using a full Helix floor or rack would never use this. That might have been the dumbest thing I heard in YT that day.

[@mikedr1549]

This just goes to show how reactionary "The Internet" can be. This is just an effects pedal. People who play through an amp and have a pedal board can use it and may or may not be interested. I bought one (on sale) just for fun (to play around with the 250 different effects!) and think it's great.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yep. It’s a brilliant idea and think it’d fit right in to most anyone’s rig.

[@GearStuffandThings]

It’s an updated version of the M5 which was useful for people who just want a Swiss Army knife small pedal that’s just one effect at a time. Not something I’d use but I totally see the use case for others.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah for sure. I think too many people are looking at this like “look at all I am NOT getting from an HX product” as opposed to understanding who this is targeted at.

[@tincupmike32]

Price should be about a hundred bucks not 300

[@scottmartin5492]

The fact that the M5 was introduced in 2010 and is only just now going out of production - to make way for the HX One - should be the only answer required to "no one wants this."

[@JeremyVarao]

@@scottmartin5492#truth

[@JeremyVarao]

@@tincupmike32you’re kidding right? Helix is probably the best selling pro-Sumer grade modeler in the last 5 years. You’re literally getting every effect they have in one box with great functionality and some of the best support in the industry. No one offers what this does in one package with that in mind. Even Source Audio at the lower price point still requires additional hardware to add and control extra algorithms

[@tacdoc8736]

Some of the folks crapping on the price are simultaneously salivating over UAs latest one trick pony pedals that cost $400…without midi

[@JeremyVarao]

Lol! You aren’t wrong.

[@ToneDeth.]

its just an updated Line 6m5. Why is everyone so negative. The line 6 m5 was wildly popular and still is, despite most people thinking whats the point of it when you can get an m9, hx stomp, hx effects etc.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah I don’t get the outpouring of negativity on this.

[@jsting100]

I could see adding one or two of these to my hx stomp rig. It essentially gives you an additional block and sometimes the stomp needs that extra block especially when trying to port a helix preset and you always seem to be 1 block short of getting there. The other thing it affords for stomp users is the ability to move some of the processing power on to the HX one platform. Even though they recently added more blocks to the stomp your limited by the processing power and can't utilize everything. You have to compromise because there just isn't enough power. This would help in that department. If they can figure out a way to allow the stomp to be a master and the one to be a slave and assign the extra switches for snapshots you would be able to get rid of a lot of other manufacturers pedals. Maybe that the ultimate goal who knows.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah some kind of integration like that would be sick! Two of these would serve me just fine for 90% of my effects needs live. Like I said in the vid, a little chorus and delay and I’m good. Easy to integrate into your favorite pedalboard as well.

[@chrisdercabc]

I think this can have several approaches to use, due to the number of effects it includes, gain, delay, modulations, filters, reverbs and even compressors and equalizers, all for guitars, basses, keyboards, etc. In a studio, where many times you record each effect line independently and you have this HX One where you configure and record, this also for recordings or productions, or simple layout at home or on the road. For live, it can be a total replacement for those that use a "Delay DL4" and "M5" together (I have them and I think I will proceed to sell them and get the "HX One" that has more effects in a larger size. reduced), just adding a Midi controller and you free up a lot of space on the pedalboard. And for live sessions, depending on the musical genre, where you don't need to bring a complete pedal board, not even a mini pedalboard, you would just bring this one and that's it.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yep. I’ll grab one for sure. I like that it can be powered from most any pedalboard power supply as well without all kinds of connectors and whatnot.

[@TrumpetsInMy4x12]

I'm still waiting for the 4 block HX HalfStomp in the same form factor.

[@JeremyVarao]

I’d buy the sh*t outta that!

[@TrumpetsInMy4x12]

@@JeremyVarao absolutely!

[@darrencunningham4782]

One of the reasons the hx effects sounds so bad is because of the input impedance. Hopefully this doesn’t have the same problem

[@JeremyVarao]

You can select impedance on this like the full Helix and Stomps. Still don’t know why they didn’t do that on HX Effects…

[@TVoltG]

I bypassed it by using a loop in the first spot..

[@aaronc675]

Great thoughts on HX 1 - In a way, its an updated version of the M5. I like the idea of it being a great delay or reverb or modulation pedal. That's two less pedals on my board. ALSO: I love your F-bombs. I'm serious. This is the first time I am seeing your content, and I immediately thought: "I like this guy - he swears a lot... like me" :)

[@JeremyVarao]

Ha! Yeah man I’m from New England… we swear a lot. I try to curtail where I can but man, like that one fella said “I gotta be me!” Thanks for checking out the vid. Lots more coming. I’ve been on a bit of a hiatus.

[@trunks828]

For years I used the cheapest h9 with a midi controller and got a lot out of it. Even after buying an hx stomp I continued to use it as an extra just because you never know. This was an great video you nailed it. I would be in the market for this if I didn’t already have a hx stomp. Different brands effects are fun. As for the h9. I got everything I used out of it with a chase bliss mood. Sold it before the h90 came out and still happier having a small board that gets the job done no matter what I do. As of line 6 releasing something new. My bet is 2025 10 years after the helix.

[@JeremyVarao]

Thanks for checking out the vid. I definitely see a use case for lots of folks with this.

[@scottmartin5492]

The HX One is the same price as the DL4mkII. That alone should silence any arguments that this is "the wrong price point."

[@JeremyVarao]

Yep. And this is also smaller with ALL the effects…

[@KaiDown]

Yup, bought mine. Naysayers are wild on this one, seems like people are mad that it wasn’t made specifically to their needs. In a vacuum, maybe it’s not the best value for money, but in the context of its competitors it’s a different story. Unbelievably versatile pedal, tried-and-true models that I already know and love. It’s not far off the price of EHX’s Pico POG and the pitch algorithms are better imo.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yep. Line 6 have proven they are nothing, if not smart. I guarantee this thing is going to do great.

[@ericwertman]

I really like this pedal but at 500mA it's a hard addition to most larger boards. I'd love to have 2 of them but powering even one would mean a complete power replacement on my board.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah it’s a hefty power draw for sure.

[@MarkWein]

I bought one because it’s the perfect addition to my small pedal Bored. I don’t need anything that’s multi effects and that I literally just need something that’s a little Swiss army knife. I have an HX stop I have a fractile FM nine I have all kinds of other stuff but for this application, it’s perfect.

[@MarkWein]

Note to self, don’t use voice to text when posting comments on KZbin

[@BrentODell]

I'm super excited about this pedal. I love my amp and don't use a lot of pedals, but there are times I need... something, and having one pedal that can be anything sounds amazing to me.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah for sure! 90% of the time this is my use case live as well. My Shure wireless serves as my tuner. 2 of these is literally all I need live. Thanks for checking out the vid. If you grab one of these, report back and let me know your thoughts.

[@BrentODell]

@@JeremyVarao Definitely! Looks like December before it ships? Maybe I'll buy myself an xmas present

[@JeremyVarao]

@@BrentODell yeah December. I’ll be grabbing some for sure.

[@soundgardener75]

I realized that I never subscribed! Thanks for your thoughts for this, and I’ll check the rest of your vids!

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah man thanks for checking out the vid and the sub! How have you been?

[@scottabney4579]

❤❤❤

[@dividedbytimestudios]

It’s a great pedal, I always hope there’s an amp cab with no fx version

[@JeremyVarao]

I think if they hold out on ANYTHING, it'll be that. But you never know. I am really looking forward to seeing what's up wit HX MKII

[@Judasz696]

Compared to this h90 and h9 looks like a f. Jokes

[@qwasz123123]

Seems like a good pedal for a guy like me. I want to keep my pedals but this would allow me to randomly insert something new. A random new pedal to play with as opposed to the random pedal purchase every so often

[@daustin777]

I'm considering buying an HX-One to simplify my rig and get rid of my old rack delays that are a pain to program. Not genius but also not dumb, just in the middle.

[@JeremyVarao]

Lol! Same! Yeah I think this is the perfect product for that.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

Hey Jeremy, Shawn's latest video connected me to your channel after all this time. NAMM 2024? Seems like the natural upgrade from the Zoom MS50 and now MS50+ which tries to offer all the effects in one unit and you just pick what you want to use. Of course Line 6 has upped the anti on this one and made an M5 upgrade which is kind of like an HX Effects mini. As you said, probably not going to push a million units but the versatility is unquestionable. I'd say it's slightly overpriced but for what it does, it's great. Would I buy one? Probably not but like you, I'm a simple guy, I don't need to run much stuff. Good sound, check. Done. Anyways, hope to see you in January!

[@JeremyVarao]

Heck yeah man! See you there!

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@@JeremyVarao Awesome! I get the feeling this year's is going to be a lot bigger than the last one

[@JeremyVarao]

@@KPGuitarStudios yeah man it should be a lot of fun! I’ll be working a booth this year and not doing much content. My AC/DC tribute is doing a show about 16 minutes from the convention center that Saturday.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

@@JeremyVarao Oh wow, sounds like a much bigger commitment than 2023! I'll be moving to the US in 2024, gotta get myself into that cover game as well! Definitely gotta find our way to the show 🤘

[@astika81]

The HX stomp would probably be a smarter buy .. it’s still as small as most strymon units and packs all the punch most people need. Am I missing something here?

[@JeremyVarao]

No I wouldn’t say you’re missing anything but the Stomp is more than double the price and believe it or not, some people have no interest in the extras it would offer. However, for others, you’re absolutely right, the Stomp is a greater value for their purposes.

[@anthonysclafani3963]

The HX one is great for studio musicians that travel. They need a board that’s versatile, if they don’t want to use a digital amp they can put the One on a small board.

[@gregg4058]

Next will be the hx 1 amps only pedal.

[@JeremyVarao]

Man people would be ECSTATIC!

[@rayfromvegas]

It’s like you see a trailer for the movie theater and you know it’ll be on Netflix soon….be great for the studio.

[@philfort7886]

I think it a great idea. A pedal that can do all the hx effect for 300 $ buck interesting. Only one effect but you can use midi. Huge step up

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah I think a lot of folks complaint don’t know the pain of having to decide between a really nice couple of Boutiqur effects. People are seeing this as something it’s not intended to be…

[@philfort7886]

@@JeremyVarao i ve got an helix lt but if I would not have an helix lt. I would definitively look at that

[@ericspr]

Ask Line 6 how many M5s have they sold. I have sold many second hand ones for $125 easy. Why not an updated version of probably one of their best seller? Why so much moistness😂?

[@JeremyVarao]

Ha! It’s definitely moist up in this topic!

[@rogerYT69]

I have a helix and the hx one for my second solution with uafx amp modelers some pedals and the hx one for multi fx. hx one is a perfect pedal for my use ;)

[@tonehammer7276]

Its basically a stomp box modeler with midi and without amp modeling right?

[@JeremyVarao]

Correct. All the effects of Helix. No amps or cabs.

[@MarkStearle]

Can you use headphones with it?

[@rex3live7770]

Great vid bro

[@JeremyVarao]

Thanks man!

[@Widdy5150]

Makes sense to add alittle more & get the Stomp.

[@JeremyVarao]

Well the Stomp is $400 more new… and would still notably more used. It is way more functionality though, I agree.

[@DJ33]

Peaked my interest

[@anthonysclafani3963]

The old Line 6 workstations like the green DL4 are classics. The HX One is all those workstations in 1 small pedal. The One is way overhated.

[@BrianSladek]

This pedal is for people like me. I have a large home studio fully treated. I have 2 tube amps and record bands live where we play together. I have a Royer 121 with SM57 on every amp. I have 6-7 pedals on each amp covering the basics, mostly analog distortion pedals. Occasionally when creating I am looking for that odd sound. I don’t need something big or with lots of options. I play nice guitars and record high end tube amps into excellent pres and converters. I understand the uselessness for most people though

[@JeremyVarao]

Yep. I’ve got about $30k in amps at the home studio and like you, lots of analog dirt. I gig quite a bit though and also have very simple effects needs.

[@BrianSladek]

@@JeremyVarao Most all great guitarists I have heard and met say they don’t need much, but sometimes you might need that one effect or want to experiment. Too many menus takes the fun out of it especially in live or creative scenarios with others, but the film composer guy or youtube guitarist churning put fast content in today’s modern world I get it. Different workflows

[@ThomasJackMoore]

Line6 has nothing else in their quiver and thinks we're dumb. I generally like what they do, but there seems to be a lack of creativity since the yamaha buy.

[@MeTuLHeD]

It's 10 pedals in 1...at a time. HX Half Stomp.

[@JeremyVarao]

I LOL’d IRL! But yeah… but really it’s 250+ pedals for the time you just need that one…

[@Birdflu278]

I don’t see you complaining about eventide charging $900 for the H90 which only does two algorithms, or $300 for Blackhole that can only ever do that one. Hypocrite?

[@JeremyVarao]

Well… I’m not complaining about anything. Did you watch the vid? I said nothing negative about Strymon or Eventide. All I did was compare form, function and price point.

[@ericajohnson7535]

Zoom MS pedals -- 6 effects in each preset, no silent gaps, and you can have an amp!

[@JeremyVarao]

Sure but that’s not what this is competing against. Zoom makes cool stuff though.

[@MOAB-UT]

Cool rant. I mostly agree. I would never buy this pedal. Very easily grab a lightly used HX Stomp with extended warranty used from GC- that is def. the better play if that is what you want. Personally, I play Pedals and Fractal. I am a tone snob.

[@JeremyVarao]

Oh I’m a HUGE gear snob! Lol. I’ve yet to see an HX Stomp under $500 so that’s still almost double for a lot of feature someone may not use. I love my Stomp XL and use it religiously.

[@MOAB-UT]

@@JeremyVarao Glad to hear it fellow snob and nice shirt! You are right. Lowest price right now for a decent example (aka GREAT) is $509.99 at GC. Still, I would grab one over this new gadget. Better yet, I bought a nice 5W tube amp and some killer pedals. I will also buy a FM6 when it gets released IF they revamp the UI.

[@Annunaki_0517]

Strymon is overpriced, overrated, overhyped. You can do so much better if you can get away from the brand name hype of “Strymon”. It’s gear for wealthy dad band guys.

[@misguidedyouth2006]

TC Electronic Plethora X3

[@JeremyVarao]

I have the X5… I don’t hate it but certainly don’t love it. I need to make a vid on it.

[@misguidedyouth2006]

@@JeremyVarao but at that price point, 5 effects vs 1 effect. Unless I am missing something

[@JeremyVarao]

@@misguidedyouth2006nope your not. Again, these aren’t really competing products. I have the X5 and it’s cool. No hate here. The whole point of this pedal is to integrate into an already existing pedalboard. I literally never use all 5 slots on my Plethora at once. Generally 2 or 3 tops for a whole gig.

[@AudacityWorks]

Sound quality?@@misguidedyouth2006

[@AA-ih6kt]

lame pedal..1 effects at a time really? Pass.....you can waste your money if you want with this crap

[@TheOnlyGuitarFather]

They need to stop with HX stuff already and give us a new flagship unit. Line 6 is pissing me off lately.. they’re like the GTA of the guitar world.

[@JasonCGuitarOfficial]

Why? There is noting wrong with the HX stuff other that it being pro-sumer level quality vs pro quality.

[@JasonCGuitarOfficial]

While yes it does "compete" you arent getting the same quality as the Strymon stuff for less money. The Line 6 FX arent as good as the Strymon stuff. Its like the Stomp-XL or the PodGo wireless, trying to solve problems that dont exist just to keep your name relevant in the market.

[@JeremyVarao]

Yeah but we can both agree “good or best” is relative. I LOVE Strymon stuff but it’s just not worth the additional cost for my needs. I personally think the H9 effects are king of the heap, but again, super spendy and just not worth the additional cost for me. Running effects the way I do through high gain amps, the sound “plus” isn’t there for me.