How The BBC And ITV Bid For Euros Matches & Inside Workings of a Game Show

[@RachelMay1989]

As much as the original is near perfect, Paddington 2 is better than Paddington 💖

[@dippydogz]

Better than many films 😊

[@TheGreatSteve]

Every time I hear about Michael McIntyre's The Wheel, I'm disappointed that the show is not just him receiving the medieval punishment every week.

[@Phil_Tutty]

If I was making TV shows I'd sooner make your version, along with companion shows also featuring MM, The Stocks, and The Rack.

[@Elwaves2925]

The tortue is on the viewers watching McIntyre. 😁

[@TheGreatSteve]

@@Elwaves2925 True.

[@janersy2003]

Now that's a show i would watch!

[@TheGreatSteve]

@@janersy2003 Me too.

[@hotjavacool]

Given the topic (gameshow 'The Wheel'), the closing remark "And thank you for your help with the revolutionary wars" was spot on :)

[@mouthstick-gaming]

8:40 I'm surprised that Marina called Richard 'Richard Osmond', & he let it slide! 🤣

[@peter-lowe]

The Twitter account Fesshole is like a modern day advice column, where people have the same reactions - "Oh god I'm glad that's not me" or "Oh wow, I do that..."

[@anthonysharp7427]

Marina, you have forced me to make a comment. As a group of 16-18 year old apprentices in the manufacturing industry during the early 90’s we used to spend our time during tea breaks writing letters to “Dear Deidre”. Many a letter was written , mostly from the perspective of a lady seeking satisfaction. On several occasions our letters were published and Deidre replied with help. On reflection now this probably wasn’t the most moral thing we could do at tea break but at the time this was quite exciting for a bunch of boys just out of school, especially waiting to see how many letters we composed would actually get published in the Sun. Just to confirm I do not condone this behaviour any more as the time spent by the agony auntie could have been spent helping genuine people. -

[@Elwaves2925]

I've always suspected that it's a combo of both. If a letter matched a topic they wanted to cover, or isn't something they've just covered then it might get printed. Why pay someone to write it when it's there for free? After that I suspect they make it up. One thing to note, and I heard this directly from someone who worked with agony letters, is that there is no 'Deirdre' or whatever the column is called. It's a department of multiple people and they all answer the letters in the style of the agony aunt.

[@muntox]

That raises the question of how much the incoming letters were screened to cull out obviously false and fabricated stories? So the challenge to the cheeky factory workers is to be as convincing as you can with the most absurd scenarios. I don't think it's morally unsound, it's all part of the game. In any case if the advice given to your I invented problem is genuinely useful to any readers at all, mission accomplished.

[@themattitude]

Your hypothetical scenarios might have been real for someone. You may have done them a favour!

[@joetrent4753]

@@Elwaves2925It could very well be a team of people but Deidre Sanders, the Deidre from the column does exist though and is now an agony aunt on This Morning.

[@Elwaves2925]

@@joetrent4753 Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that there wasn't an actual Deirdre in that case, just that it's a team and that who the responses are from, not just one person. 🙂

[@Phil26599]

I saw the clip of the bit about the Euros weeks ago & couldn’t find the full episode. Now I’ve found the episode where it’s in the title & it’s not mentioned in the episode 🤷🤦‍♂️🙄

[@redmed10]

3 months later and still not been amended in any way. Bunch of amateurs. I demand to speak to the manager.

[@Willy_Elres]

Seriously dude, one of the greatest sequels that *actually* exists: Mad Max 2. Sequel faux pas deux aside, love this podcast.

[@JamesSeddon1995]

When did they talk about the football? I caught a clip on shorts and came to this episode for that story...

[@stephaniepjucker7963]

It's nice to see Marina's face from the front, she has such a cute smile and laugh! As does Richard of course!

[@eye_made_this]

Richard... tsk. There was no sequel to Dude where's my car!

[@cipherhex]

I just cannot bring myself to believe Richard's answer about the people being under the wheel 😂 It just seems so logistically difficult to raise the entire set so high, for very little - especially since every shot I've seen of the contestant rising (tbf only watched it a couple times) is cut so late, with you only seeing them raise the final couple of feet, with a suspicious amount of smoke

[@pd4165]

It's easier than digging an equivalent sized hole.

[@Eileenford]

I don't believe it either. I love the show but watch that part very closely and every time a new contestant comes up, there is a seat in the foreground which moves across the screen and shields the entrance of the contestant. If this was entirely as Richard described it, the show producers would love to show it off but, as you say, there are also copious amounts of smoke and a feeling that some element is being hidden.

[@cipherhex]

​@@Eileenford On reflection, I think Richard has been very careful with his words here! He said "the contestants really do rise up through the floor", which I don't doubt! They clearly do rise up (somewhat) as the show shows the last couple of feet at least. He then reveals at 11:45 that the "contestant wheel isn't actually the same chair that rises": clearly they spin the contestants wheel somewhere else, project the bird's eye footage of that onto the main floor, and the cut while a different chair raises up obscured by dry ice. This makes total sense, because the logistics of building a rig that can spin *or* raise is unnecessarily complicated for such a short bit, when it can be so easily faked. But I think this deception is my (and possibly the question asker's) biggest gripe. But then Richard seems to back-track and say "but it's... *connected*", which is a very vague and flexible choice of word! Richard's implications seem to claim that the final rise is a full "12 feet", but I doubt that, by the time all the equipment is included. So my full theory (that doesn't contradict Richard's words here) is that the contestant wheel is elsewhere, then it cuts to the rising part, where it's only maybe a few feet of rise or at least it's just less impressive looking, and that's why they always cut it so oddly and include a multitude of dry ice! (A few feet would certainly be the funniest option as it would mean the contestant would have to walk out over the wheel and go down before they cut 😂)

[@Eileenford]

@@cipherhex My thoughts entirely - I absolutely agree! So pleased I'm not alone in thinking the footage is weird and has been messed with.

[@frostyfingers9282]

@@Eileenford Sort of throws into question the entire value of this podcast - what's the point of a show that tells you about the inner workings of shows if they're not prepared to truly tell you about the inner workings of shows? Is Richard afraid to tell us Santa's not real? Makes me wonder what other 'sort-of' truths we've been told by Richard and Marina.

[@frankhumbug]

May I suggest Marina should keep her catchphrase "and welcome to questions..." "What do questions need?" "Answers."

[@camera2painting]

I was listening to a different podcast episode with these two, and Marina was quite the motor mouth. I need to watch the KZbin version and slow down the speed. Always informative.

[@MrGrantspants]

Richard on that thumbnail 😂 the headphones make him look Terry Wogan-esq 😂

[@CulturePhilter]

Another sequel better than the first film? Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.

[@lakrids-pibe]

*After the Thin Man* (1936) is a good sequel. Now, the original *The Thin Man* (1934) is not a bad movie, but the "thin man" moniker wasn't refering to Nick Charles (William Powell) in that one. It wasn't until the seqel, which in turn was followed by four more successors. The Thin Man series reached six feature films. For those who don't know it: It's a series of cosy murder mystery comedies. The murders are solved by Nick & Nora Charles , played by Charles William Powell and Myrna Loy. A great deal of the appeal is the banter between the two.

[@tricia9559]

Absolutely agree the banter (and the acting) was great

[@johnking5174]

ITV Bovingdon Studio is the home of The Wheel, Dancing on Ice and The Masked Singer. It is a vast studio. However it is a nightmare to get to, near Hemel Hempstead. I know someone who worked there, who said he found it hardest studio to get to.

[@DavidSmith-bc8nk]

My biggest bugbear with the Wheel is sometimes you will get an episode where someone has a go on the wheel and then they'll go down but come straight back and they might come back several more times, especially I think there's been one episode where someone got to the end and got the first two questions wrong but then got a third chance - I think it can still be random at that point but also allow for the other two contestants to have a shot, don't think it's fair for someone to get three cracks at the end. That would be the one change I'd make to the show

[@stewartbrodie1720]

Logistics planners have to be amazing to plan how to get each venue set up and what the minimum number of complete sets of equipment that requires. I find it a fascinating challenge - but there's no way I could do it! The teams of people responsible for the packing, moving and unpacking are equally amazing, because they could stuff the whole operation up if they make a serious mistake. The concert tour logistics sound very similar to the way F1 teams move around from circuit to circuit. With F1 there's also multiple complete sets of equipment moving around the globe by ship, lorry or plane - and often not following the race calendar, but sometimes a set will just get shipped off, literally on a ship, to the next place it'll be used - in 6 months time, so it sits in storage, but it's cheaper that way.

[@iieee85]

Marina often does this cute meercat-like thing with her arms when she's talking about a fun topic.

[@longjonwhite]

Not as cute as Alexis Rose (Annie Murphy), in Schitts Creek.

[@themattitude]

Here's me thinking you overlooked Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel, and then, bang!

[@BoctorPink]

Glad someone else thinks Iron Man 3 is the superior Iron Man movie. Also totally agree with The Godfather Part 2 & The Empire Strikes Back. I'd also throw in "The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King" "Frozen 2" "Dalek Invasion Of Earth 2150 A.D" "Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me" "Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part 2" "The Hunger Games: Catching Fire" "Before Sunset" "Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes" & "Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade"

[@Wunderpantz]

Looking forward to Richard’s further tales, of his time embedded in Wheel Team Six.

[@electricladyguitarsdevonuk1414]

I made several sets/Backline cages for AC/DC whilst based at LSD Birmingham UK. Great band to work for. The first time I met Malcolm Young, he threw a can of beer at me in a most hospitable manner!

[@simonmandrakejones]

Richard champions the work of Drew Pearce here with Iron Man 3 and Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation. As I know that Richard also enjoyed it a lot(it is a lot of fun), it is worth noting that Drew Pearce also wrote The Fall Guy.

[@trevorwilliams6404]

Better sequels top 3 From Russia with love Paddington 2 Mad max 2 And a film I know is not better but I prefer watching it Beverly hills cop 2

[@atirems4010]

Kung Fu Panda 3 is one of the best sequels in my opinion. And Paddington 2. Can rewatch those movies again and again🙃

[@TravelingBibliophile]

Two of the more well known Agony Aunts in the US were Dear Abby and Anne Landers. They were done by twin sisters Esther Pauline Friedman and Pauline Esther Friedman.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

Godfather 2 feels like a better movie that Godfather 1 the first couple of times you see it, because if the Sicily Scenes mainly which makes it feel more arty, but after a few watches most people realise that Godfather 1 is the better movie.

[@rossbroomfield5199]

Curious to know what Richard was on when he watched iron man 3 - I don’t think we saw the same movies

[@Graysonn1]

Watching the fall guy and I noticed all the aerial shots. I know in the past they would have used helicopters and even hydraulic crane thingys, but do they use drones more often now?

[@Togidubnus]

I've not listened to the full-length version of this, where presumably the football scheduling was talked about, but here I would like to ask this: why oh why is the same match played at the same time on both BBC and ITV?

[@francampbell4097]

I was in one of those comic strip things also in NOTW, I have mine from the actual paper 😂

[@jackabalas]

Terminator 2 Aliens An American Tale: Feival goes west.

[@ericjohnsmith874]

Hi Marina...This is really for Richard, but I do hope he will either see it or you could "pass it on to him"........I have a quiz format I would like him to view, how would I go about getting it to him please?

[@cmoouk14]

Seriously Dude, Where's My Car? doesn't exist, seriously

[@pd4165]

It almost does - script was written etc. Just needs fleshing out with acting 'n' stuff.

[@fightthepowerman]

​@pd4165 Yeah, seemingly Richard takes a writers approach to films.

[@dmontes133]

Oh Richard, you have never looked so unintelligent until you explained your good movie choices. Haha

[@giociampa]

Is there a reason why for some shows there is an absolute eternity between recording and broadcast? Examples... We were contestants on the Christmas edition of The 1% Club last December (2023)... which was recorded in February. (This one makes sense as they recorded the whole series as a block, and it was the last show to be recorded as I recall) On the other hand, we were in the audience for an edition of Tipping Point Lucky Stars which - as far as I can establish - has yet to be broadcast... almost 2 years after recording (which brings up a side question as to whether the charity has been given its prize money yet - knowing that game shows tend not to pay winnings until after broadcast, though I imagine that a charity win might be an exception).

[@BetmmaTipsUFC]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, noodle soup. I mean soup. I mean noodle soup. < Marina's intros.

[@all-range-mode]

Are video games allowed in the top 3s...? There would be some interesting discussions about sequels beating originals

[@stephenbarrette610]

Marina, you are certainly not ‘the unattractive one.’ Thank you for your wisdom and wit in your Guardian column and in this brilliant podcast with Richard.

[@hummus6150]

Only saw The Wheel it once because even watching it made me nauseous. Always wondered why they didn’t just spin the camera

[@cupboardyj]

John Cazale's performances in Godfather 1 and 2 are phenomenal

[@barrieflix]

If the Wheel is truly random I don't understand how it always is the correct length for the broadcast slot. Ok, I guess there can be a lot of live banter which can be edited out as necessary. But it could be first contestant is very knowledgeable or lucky and get straight to the end and win - and it could be a run of ignorance or bad luck with very few steps forward. Sort of 20 min straight through, or 2 hrs of agony.

[@JonathanB6023]

I may be wrong, but my sense from the ones I've watched is that if a contestant gets a question wrong, the next time(s) that category is attempted it's a slightly 'easier' question, in order to increase the chances of it being answered correctly and reducing that endless slog you suggest. They still must build in lots of leeway to lengthen or shorten the edit though, just for the difference on the final alone where some contestants get the first question right in a flash while other times they burn through all the questions and nobody wins at all.

[@Robalogot]

I'll throw Grumpier Old Men in the ring when it comes to comedies.

[@ossirioth]

I'm disappointed you didn't mention Iron Maiden's Ed Force One tour plane...

[@poeiabird]

The question wasn't whether Iron Man 3 was better than The Godfather Part II; it was whether Iron Man 3 was better than Iron Man.

[@giffgaffnettwork5626]

Slightly surprised me that Anna Raeburn didn't get a mention, surely the original agony aunt! On the strength of her Woman magazine advice page, she was employed by Capital Radio for many years for their radio phone in advice show. Countless radio stations later, she is still working in her 70's and her fine blog, Annalong or the occasional podcast guest.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4q9qICXrpKWotUsi=JAIlUby2k2OPyqiv kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4q9qICXrpKWotUsi=JAIlUby2k2OPyqiv

[@madpixie2]

I agree with Marina that The Empire Strikes Back would make the top 3 but can you imagine that film without Irvin Kershner as director? It is by far the best directed of the nine main films with subtle touches you don't see in any of the others.

[@markmiller6402]

There are only three Star Wars films

[@madpixie2]

@@markmiller6402 there are only 3 good ones.

[@markmiller6402]

@@madpixie2 my point, exactly. There are also only 3 Indiana Jones films

[@madpixie2]

@@markmiller6402 I'm assuming that like me, you think eps 4, 5 & 6 are the 3 Star Wars films. If you asked my 19 year old step son though, he would says eps 1, 2 & 3!

[@markmiller6402]

@@madpixie2 I’m a lot older, 4,5,6 to me, ARE 1,2 and 3.

[@TheGumbs]

She was so close.

[@jackabalas]

But he couldn’t last.

[@Hexon66]

Can't agree with Godfather Pt.2, not because it's a cliche (which it is), but for context and the ability to *_stand alone_* . Probably true of all sequels to some degree, it's useful to have prior knowledge of the characters and situation, but all should become clear eventually, or could easily be back-filled. But with the prequel/sequel nature of Godfather Pt. 2, it's essential to have context for the characters. That's *really* the strength of the film, that it bookends the first film. As a stand alone, Pt. 2 throws away virtually all of Michael's arc. And the audience has to fill in the gap from the little boy waving from a train in Italy to the middle aged man celebrating his son's first communion in Nevada.

[@adamj6645]

At the very end... "See you next Tuesday." with no clue what this phrase means 😂😂😂😂😂

[@simonmandrakejones]

They know.

[@amac2675]

Home Alone 2: Lost In New York and American Pie 2 are both better (just) than the originals. (I’m ready to receive pelters on this.)

[@EvilMidnight204]

I fear the See You Next Tuesday joke is getting a little tired, especially as the episode comes out on a Wednesday!!!

[@TonyP_Yes-its-Me]

Maybe they should make it a John Landis reference. Many of his films contained the phrase "See you next Wednesday", for some weird reason.

[@EvilMidnight204]

@@TonyP_Yes-its-Me or even a The Prisoner reference - "We'll be seein' you"

[@Elwaves2925]

I was wondering if it's released somewhere else first on a Tuesday, Patreon maybe, then YT gets it a day later.

[@michaelwaddington1356]

I think its the podcast version on Spotify thats released on a tuesday

[@pd4165]

The actual podcast goes out on the days specified (I've tried it). I think the delay is in the video editing, whatever technical nonsense they get up to balancing their ying/yangs etc.

[@hadz8671]

Richard on The Wheel - in which subject were you the expert?

[@EricAitala]

Pink Floyd's The Division Bell Tour had three complete stages being shipped around....

[@kinolibby6580]

Yes The Souvenir part 2 is better than the first one but I don't think it can be enjoyed without having seen The Souvenir. So much of what is brilliant about it is playing off what happens in the first film.

[@biegebythesea6775]

The Wheel is the only gameshow I can tolerate. I genuinely enjoy it. I just hate the chair dancing.

[@williamburnham3659]

Paddington 2

[@PaulMcCaffreyfmac]

I cannot countenence "less attractive best friend" nor even 'not as attractive best friend'. I am the beholder whose eye it is in.

[@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV]

Another 48 hours ST 2: Wrath of Khan Evil Dead 2 & Army of Darkness National Lampoons European Vacation Sharknado 2 ;)

[@simonmandrakejones]

Wrath of Khan and the Evil Dead sequels. Classics.

[@macsmiffy2197]

I wish the 3 (or 4, if you’re counting C5) terrestrial channels would get together and run a separate sports channel, still free to access with the TV licence, then the rest of us can carry on watching the normal repeats! 🙄

[@themattitude]

Miss Congeniality 2: Armed and Fabulous

[@FloatingAnarchy61]

I caught the end credits of the first film when I switched channels one time and heard the song Bullets by Bob Schneider. It's an absolute tune.

[@xxkimbatron]

Sister Act 2 would be top of my list of sequels better than the original. The original is good but the sequel is great.

[@markmcnulty7736]

Pics or it didn't happen, Marina...

[@elwyndude]

Iron Man 3? Seriously.... ummmm wow, bold statement.

[@BoyceBailey]

"Unattractive best friend" is the worst casting, I don't accept it. As its the sun , "Thinking Man's Tottie" and not a 90s bit of inappropriate less!

[@KristineMaitland]

FYI. Canadian actor Donald Sutherland has died at the age of 88. A long roster of stage and films include M*A*S*H, Clute, Pride and Prejudice, The Hunger games.

[@cameronclark8052]

This podcast should be folded for not mentioning Paddington 2

[@finneganwoolley6557]

see you next tuesday. that's so fanny... i mean funny

[@Drucius]

That's nothing, I've been in a Jackie photo story.

[@zdelany6963]

the Godfather part 2 is not a sequel it is the second part of the same film....it is the whole story of one book

[@mabonman]

it is a sequel, they never intended to make a second movie until the first was a hit. also, the adaptation of the book is just that, an adaptation. there is so much from the book that isn't in the film, FFC handpicked certain ideas and themes but left out so much. similar form of adaptation to Kubrick & Shining. absolutely a sequel.

[@jessicaforrister]

The Lord of the rings : the two towers

[@TonyP_Yes-its-Me]

I knew a guy, 20 plus years ago, who was in the music biz, on the logistical side, who said he had arranged tours for a VERY famous performer. He said that he also arranged the "entertainment" for them, at their destination, including recreational pharmaceuticals, and person's who gave "physical relief". (I phrased it that way to stop youtube flagging the comment.) Who was it? I can't say for legal reasons, but let's say that when he told me, I wasn't that surprised.

[@pd4165]

I've organised moving bands gear - at a very low level ie here's the band and here is their gear, get it/them to the venue and set up. It's a feckin' nightmare! It's like herding kittens when wearing a blindfold and boxing gloves....in the fast lane of the M1 at noon. Not only do you have to get fragile goods from A-B....you have to get their electronics there too! I think the first qualification you should get is in psychotherapy - someone is going to have a breakdown and it may well be you.

[@FarmerJAB]

I don’t think that’s news - instead I think it’s fairly common knowledge

[@thenoise0001]

adds now and for sky? horrible.

[@muntox]

I think 'less attractive best friend' would be both kinder and way more accurate than 'unattractive', in by case all that means is 'less made over and well lit best friend'. So.

[@sourface5820]

Bride of Frankenstein.

[@highdownmartin]

Are agony aunt letters real? I’ve written fckn loads! Course they’re real

[@bobthegrinch]

Seriously Dude Where's my Car was never made.

[@RosClarkeCraft]

I think Michael Parkinson was a WDYTYA person they eventually decided they couldn’t find anything interesting enough to make a programme.

[@sams-pg7hj]

Terminator 2 is a better sequel, captain America winter solider is better, the exorcist part 3 is pretty fantastic too

[@rusty911s2]

On a practical level, the framing of Richard is really weird. It's as though his invisible fat friend is taking all the central space, leaving Richard squashed off to one side and leaning forward awkwardly. Subscribed though!

[@Graysonn1]

three colours white was better than three colours blue. If we're talking about non block buster series.

[@Graysonn1]

top three plot holes? And has there ever been a case of a director not realizing there's a massive plot hole until after the movie was released.

[@Dmanz67]

Terminator 2 Godfather 2 The Dark Knight

[@ActualGiles]

Iron Man 3 is not only the best Iron Man film, it ties with Winter Soldier as the best film from MCU Phases 1 and 2.

[@dibster_1976]

Really? Iron Man 3 is poor - Kingsley a legend that saved the film - I guess its better than Iron Man 2 but the first Iron Man is the best Marvel Movie

[@muntox]

Of course Iron Man 3 isn't better than Godfather Part 2, but it can be argued if you feel like it that IM3 is more better than it's predecessors than what Godfather 2 is better than The Godfather.

[@LeonEvans_Guyver1]

Aliens Tron Legacy Kill Bill Vol. 2

[@thomasthomasson2319]

I am amazed Paddington 2 didn’t get mentioned in the sequels chat, a film so good it toppled Citizen Kane as the highest rated movie ever on Rotten Tomatoes

[@lawrencesinderson]

Getting dizzy and horrific childhood memories of roundabouts at childrens playgrounds is one of the many reasons I cant/dont watch The Wheel

[@PopPo-zh9up]

She is all over place isn’t she

[@andrewmontague9682]

Iron Man 3?!?

[@ticketyboo2456]

Sorry but The Godfather and all its sequels is vastly overrated. There I said it.

[@dmontes133]

🤣🤣🤣🤣Ironman 3 is the worst marvel movie, ever!

[@fracturedopal]

I was unaware of this podcast until the furor around the fossil fuel funding. I have always kind of liked Marina and Richard, all very witty and comfortably upper-middle class. But this podcast is absolutely dire, what an embarrassment, just so smug and cringe. As are Marina's complacent and whiny views on politics and change.

[@pjsixhundred]

Sky sponsorship. Sad. Keep it honest.

[@sandoumir4348]

Do you ever bother to find out if you should be upset about something or just take your initial reaction as absolute fact and expect the world to accomodate your misguided perception?

[@hjhw100]

Iron Man 3.... the worst of the Iron Man movies. The Idea was fine but man, the end of that movie was terribad...

[@ajmcdonagh7730]

Iron man 3 is dogshit