How the Cylinder Phonograph Works

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@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I've been trying for an hour now to find ONE VIDEO that just shows and explains it This is so well done. Thanks guys!
@jussymorgan1358
@jussymorgan1358 2 ай бұрын
Still don’t understand how they originally ‘captured’ sound. must have felt like magic at the time.
@codyskaer8796
@codyskaer8796 2 жыл бұрын
Stayed for Bob. Liked the vid for Bob. Bob blink twice if you're in danger. I don't really care about the phonograph, but we all care about you Bob. Stay safe bud. Sincerely, AP World History, Section 32
@audreymckeaney4589
@audreymckeaney4589 2 жыл бұрын
that’s so sweet!
@annabellesacks7565
@annabellesacks7565 2 жыл бұрын
yessir
@zozo-xx6ve
@zozo-xx6ve 2 жыл бұрын
amen.
@audreymckeaney4589
@audreymckeaney4589 2 жыл бұрын
ngl something is clearly wrong…. praying for you bobby
@tommygoneau791
@tommygoneau791 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Bob
@stanleyong7638
@stanleyong7638 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Unthinkable. The inventor is ahead of his time.
@DannySullivanMusic
@DannySullivanMusic 3 жыл бұрын
indeed
@joelxbezelyaoilover69
@joelxbezelyaoilover69 2 жыл бұрын
Edison was a curious smart inventor who learned on his own and made this, wow
@noyou113
@noyou113 Жыл бұрын
@@joelxbezelyaoilover69 my inner history nerd is coming out. Edison wasn’t really an inventer. He was a business man that owned a firm and stamped his name on everything his firm invented. He wasn’t a good person. Tesla is the real inventor history needs to credit.
@Aff_que_cringe
@Aff_que_cringe 11 ай бұрын
​@@noyou113lol😂😂😂😂😂 it was not tesla
@noyou113
@noyou113 11 ай бұрын
@@Aff_que_cringe I never said it was. 🙄
@stevenwilson7137
@stevenwilson7137 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy how this paved the way for us , We all just record on our phones like nothin Like this thing is recording your sound what
@DannySullivanMusic
@DannySullivanMusic 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely awesome this thing
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 жыл бұрын
It really is crazy. It's amazing. I wish I could thank the creators somehow, my life would really suck if I couldn't listen to, or record music. It improves my life every day.
@hotwateronwool
@hotwateronwool 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand this stuff but I can't stop watching. It's so cool!
@BrucesPhonograph
@BrucesPhonograph 9 жыл бұрын
A better term for the "needle" on an Edison phonograph would be stylus. Needles were used with E. Berliner's disk talking machine or Gramophone.
@teammmx
@teammmx 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking up Florence Nightingale, heard her voice on a wax cylinder, so now I’m looking up how wax cylinders recorded and played.
@swearynortherner7864
@swearynortherner7864 3 жыл бұрын
i looked up wax cylinder and saw your comment on florence nightingale and am now looking up florence nightingales voice on a cylinder
@oof.9827
@oof.9827 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here because it’s in syllabus 😭
@catness1809
@catness1809 3 жыл бұрын
@teammm same
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 жыл бұрын
haha, i came here from a rabbit hole of video of someone playing some old classics and was curious about "what is a wax Cylinder?" now I've learned the history of the phonograph, and how they work in the past hour! The internet is amazing.. although, I don't think I'll ever have any use this information, it's been a fun rabbit hole, and it never hurts to learn, right? ...Right? (Lol, I need to go to bed) Also, as an amateur musician, this is just so amazing to me. Talk about a pioneer, the first to record sound! That is, to me, one of the most amazing inventions, up there with cameras. Such a cool thing to understand and see.
@nancytrageser3800
@nancytrageser3800 2 жыл бұрын
Nice chatting with you at Johnnie's the other night
@tommygoneau791
@tommygoneau791 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Bob LLQUIST
@JaydenLawson
@JaydenLawson 2 жыл бұрын
Great mechanism - thanks for showing us!
@MarkMphonoman
@MarkMphonoman 6 жыл бұрын
nice clean sounding cylinder.....so hard to find these days and the reproduction cylinders never seem to reach the quality of the originals. Still, glad there are companies out there making the reproductions. Mark
@electronicsradiovideo
@electronicsradiovideo 8 жыл бұрын
Very useful, instructive, interesting and not too long. Thanks.
@rosadavis4745
@rosadavis4745 4 жыл бұрын
How do you put the. Cylinder on.
@phillipsj1990
@phillipsj1990 4 жыл бұрын
Rosa Davis on the side with the crank, there is a silver switch, I think you pull it up and the black bar by the cylinder holder pulls out
@tommygoneau791
@tommygoneau791 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOU BOB
@codyskaer8796
@codyskaer8796 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Bob. Gone but not forgotten. May the crimes he witnessed be brought to justice, and may Bob explain the phonograph to the angels in heaven. P.S. if you faked your death, please reach out to us. Thank you. Sincerely, World History, Section 32
@1ddirectionermalfoyshorts
@1ddirectionermalfoyshorts 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@theresaolive7320
@theresaolive7320 2 жыл бұрын
bob if you are alive come visit us too
@bitty9866
@bitty9866 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo rip my idol😞✊
@MuddyBubby
@MuddyBubby Жыл бұрын
What happened
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
wait can somebody pls explain to me what is going on?
@augiedoggie1820
@augiedoggie1820 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I was reading a Sherlock Holmes novel and they mentioned one of these. I had never heard of them and so I had to look it up. Thank you for the upload 👍 amazing stuff!
@areejps
@areejps 2 жыл бұрын
oooh i read almost all sherlock holmes novels, in what novel the phonograph was mentioned ?
@cowtippingrocks
@cowtippingrocks 6 жыл бұрын
that flyball governor isn't just a technology of the 19th century. Modern day steam turbines used in large thermal and nuclear power plants have a small fly ball governor controlling the speed of those enormous machines. Its an old technology that works so well it's still used today in modern industry!
@barriwoodfork
@barriwoodfork 8 жыл бұрын
This is my homework
@slobonmaknob3490
@slobonmaknob3490 5 жыл бұрын
same bro
@Jake-n8m3n
@Jake-n8m3n 5 жыл бұрын
@@slobonmaknob3490 watching this for fun hahah
@illuminateconfirmed989
@illuminateconfirmed989 3 жыл бұрын
Luckiest person on earth
@dedion-boutonondemand
@dedion-boutonondemand 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching this because I love this stuff
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 28 күн бұрын
Were there any mobile ones where you could walk around and listen to music or talking
@janiahughbanks9996
@janiahughbanks9996 6 жыл бұрын
got to do a science project on this machine this video really helped
@LegendaryHeroGames
@LegendaryHeroGames 4 ай бұрын
WOuld playing a 4 minute cylinder at 2 minute gearing ruin the tube?
@mcrettable
@mcrettable 6 жыл бұрын
sorry how does it record the sounds? what's the science
@joshludwick8645
@joshludwick8645 6 жыл бұрын
Hurbii I was wondering the same thing. Maybe magic?
@mcrettable
@mcrettable 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Ludwick apparently it records vibrations. The vibrations themselves, voices, instruments are the sound I guess? They each make unique waves. Fascinating.
@johnmh3180
@johnmh3180 5 жыл бұрын
Yea I want to know it 🤔
@mikedilworth2032
@mikedilworth2032 3 жыл бұрын
There's no machine that can actually record sound literally record sound that's not how it works its the machine that makes the sound that's how it works it's not it recording it's the machine making the sound think of like an engine idling is that considered recording a sound the same repeated sound no it's just the sound it makes when you actually sit there and think how can you actually record something it's not possible think about it before any technology before any computers before anything how can you record a sound how can you talk into a device and then hit the play button and let it keep playing exactly you can't it's not possible what would you use the only way is if you hit hit a button that causes chain reaction that causes the noise that you're trying to effect notice all those spindles and pulleys and all that s*** in that phonograph just to make that sound that's all chain reaction just to make those sounds it's not a recording it's just the machine making that sounds that's how music works that's how all sounds from everything works there's no such thing as recordings the machines is what gives the sounds now I know you're going to say oh if I record myself saying something isn't that my voice no it's not your voice that's why your voice does not sound the same to you when you listen to it but what you're doing is you're giving the machine something to say back to you it's not really your voice I don't know if this makes sense or not but technology is not what you think it is got to think outside the box got to think backwards
@craigeverhart4755
@craigeverhart4755 3 жыл бұрын
This is a reproducer, not a recorder. The recorder machine would be lots like this, except the cylinder would be covered with something soft like wax. Once a performance was recorded, the cylinder impression would be hardened enough to make copies on the cylinders such as were then sold. The recording process was similar in principle, but I don’t know the materials that were used so as to be able to be duplicated.
@xiaodengchen8472
@xiaodengchen8472 3 жыл бұрын
nicely explained!
@terrykaegin8229
@terrykaegin8229 2 жыл бұрын
There are a number of different companies at the time making cylinder records. Will all cylinder records play on the Edison Standard Phonograph or does Edison only play Edison records?
@5332wonderboy
@5332wonderboy 2 жыл бұрын
Simple time simpler folks. What a Time that must have been.
@youtubeveteran5769
@youtubeveteran5769 Жыл бұрын
But how does it play the sound back? I dont get it
@ConcreteBombDeep
@ConcreteBombDeep 7 ай бұрын
I assume the sapphire needle was natural sapphire or was it lab?
@gracieismylife
@gracieismylife 9 ай бұрын
I have one of these handed down in the family with three boxes of cylinders. It does not work but am curious if there is anyone who works on them?
@UOFI1985
@UOFI1985 6 жыл бұрын
Question, all the inside components are turning except the cylinder rod ( feed gear ) which does not turn even when trying to move by hand. Any ideas. And, Thanks for you fine video it really helped me understand how it works.
@madbear3512
@madbear3512 6 жыл бұрын
There should be a level on it to adjust the speed
@longfordboy2538
@longfordboy2538 6 жыл бұрын
Well done. Many Thanks
@AnDream109
@AnDream109 8 жыл бұрын
exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
@lamarchedutemps7427
@lamarchedutemps7427 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting, in restoring a Model C (New-York model), following strict restorations rules, no part replacements if not necessary,. I have the "'pick-nick" horn. Right now it has a mechanical problem I crank it but nothing happen. I will look closely at yours running. Tks !
@gunnarthefeisty
@gunnarthefeisty 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, a Gem? Those New York versions sure are interesting! It sounds like yours has a broken spring.
@lamarchedutemps7427
@lamarchedutemps7427 2 жыл бұрын
@@gunnarthefeisty I forgot this post, mine had a loose gear, it now work, but had to closely analyse it to find the culprit ;-) tks!
@daxota_6750
@daxota_6750 9 ай бұрын
When we hit the 1900s I swear technology just took off
@jelly5022
@jelly5022 4 жыл бұрын
Do they still make horns?
@budicaesar7790
@budicaesar7790 Жыл бұрын
are you willing to sell this and do you know where someone can get one ?
@EdisonTechCenter
@EdisonTechCenter Жыл бұрын
We are a museum so we don't sell things but you can try private antique markets.
@MartenElectric
@MartenElectric 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video :)
@isaacstokes7239
@isaacstokes7239 2 жыл бұрын
was this audio recorded on a phonograph lol
@NayanAmin96
@NayanAmin96 7 жыл бұрын
Really Great video.. 👍👍
@embecker9318
@embecker9318 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! :)
@conorhackley1634
@conorhackley1634 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have an Edison standard model A phonograph. It makes a grinding sound when on. Does anyone know how to fix that? thx (;
@phillipsj1990
@phillipsj1990 4 жыл бұрын
Why does mine either fully stop or play really slowly?
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
did you wind it up?
@phillipsj1990
@phillipsj1990 6 ай бұрын
@raymondny123 it took a minute to figure out how to wind it. It's a weird way. I'm use to fully turning a bar
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
what type do you have? i have an amberola 30
@АнатолийМитрофанов-я5е
@АнатолийМитрофанов-я5е 4 жыл бұрын
Какая скорость вращения цилиндра применялась для записи звука на фонографе?
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
i think wax went 160 rpm but i’m not too sure
@EriPages
@EriPages 3 жыл бұрын
HOW the hell does this make the desired sound!? And where can I buy these devices and the cylinders?
@osbornto
@osbornto 3 жыл бұрын
You can buy them on eBay. Remember, there are 2 different types of cylinders - 2 minute and 4 minute.
@EriPages
@EriPages 3 жыл бұрын
@@osbornto Thanks
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
the grooves go up and down and vibrate the stylus, this makes noise i guess
@RealBadGaming52
@RealBadGaming52 6 ай бұрын
Victorian kids be like….”Buy my mix cylinder”
@RicardoFerreira-hm4jf
@RicardoFerreira-hm4jf 4 жыл бұрын
Very good
@LoneStarCowboy1
@LoneStarCowboy1 5 жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand how the indentations or groves on the cylinder could be play back.
@willashton5222
@willashton5222 5 жыл бұрын
They vibrate air at the perfect frequency
@Trudragon88
@Trudragon88 5 жыл бұрын
I understand that recording would make grooves on the cylinder , but how does sound come out of that ???
@ARCtheCartoonMaster
@ARCtheCartoonMaster 5 жыл бұрын
I assume it's the same way you get sound off a flat disc record - the stylus vibrates against the grooves as they are spun.
@craigeverhart4755
@craigeverhart4755 3 жыл бұрын
The groove is one long spiral. The spiral sides are not totally even, but cut with vibrations. The vibrations wiggle the stylus/needle, which wiggles a diaphragm, making sound in the air. The horn just captures and directs the wiggling air so its sound is louder.
@Andy-im3kj
@Andy-im3kj 6 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you but Edison's engineers were the ones who invented the phonograph. Edison was merely an investor, a business man at most. He was good at cut throating the competition but was sloppy at best with winning patents (for ex. the lightbulb and how he was forced to have the real inventor given credit for the light bulb). Lest we forget the smear campaign against Nikola Tesla at the time. C'mon folks, we're smarter than that.
@hekmatyar7800
@hekmatyar7800 6 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong, but the point of this video was less to give credit to Edison for inventing the phonograph, and more to explain how the machine actually works. C'mon man, you're smarter than this.
@LyneisFilm
@LyneisFilm 2 жыл бұрын
Edison thought of how to record and play back a voice and his staff built the first one that worked. He patented in in 1877. It was amazing to all. The latter practical version s of course had a lot of input from this technical staff. But the brilliance of the first idea and demonstration of recording and playing back a voice is Edison. The light bulb is a different story.
@rOCKETmANbLASTOFF
@rOCKETmANbLASTOFF 4 жыл бұрын
why cant they make vibrators that quiet
@4stringz.
@4stringz. 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Amberola 30
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
same
@MrAzureJames
@MrAzureJames 8 жыл бұрын
i want one
@cjedwards5414
@cjedwards5414 2 жыл бұрын
I have one it’s not working
@bsfbestshortfilmsonyoutube
@bsfbestshortfilmsonyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
how loud ? db decibel
@rosadavis4745
@rosadavis4745 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great. Video
@jlindsa
@jlindsa 5 ай бұрын
This doesn't really explain how sound is played off an inanimate object. That's the "voodoo" at play. Also, how much of this did Edison invent and how much did he "just" piece together various products to create something new?
@madbear3512
@madbear3512 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is you have to have a certain reproducer for all the different colors of cylinders. Which is a pain in the ass. It not like a 78 or diamond disc were talking about
@garcitosmarilyn1774
@garcitosmarilyn1774 Жыл бұрын
It did not answer my question
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
what was your question?
@default632
@default632 5 жыл бұрын
Stevejob with thomas edison vibes XD
@tugboat6940
@tugboat6940 2 жыл бұрын
This seems way more genius than an iPhone somehow
@Ecksterphono
@Ecksterphono 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@skierdude.244
@skierdude.244 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got loads of records. But no phonogram player.
@floridian2023
@floridian2023 4 жыл бұрын
W.O.W.
@c4meron954
@c4meron954 4 жыл бұрын
thankyou college for this 5 mins of torture
@raymondny123
@raymondny123 6 ай бұрын
i wish i could research this
@SAMEntalhealth
@SAMEntalhealth 2 жыл бұрын
My question is, how the hell does wax hold a recording! Lol
@bsfbestshortfilmsonyoutube
@bsfbestshortfilmsonyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
how loud could the biggest horn ?db decibel
@mcj0014
@mcj0014 4 жыл бұрын
WvW Weekender Video Watch r/ihadastroke
@roboticgaming7394
@roboticgaming7394 6 жыл бұрын
i have a cylinder phonograph "G" model G193933 I am looking to sell
@Stoonk
@Stoonk 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I still don't believe a stylus touching grooves in wax can produce intricate sounds and human vocie
@justinnaramor6050
@justinnaramor6050 2 жыл бұрын
It is definitely strange when you first think about it. But it's all based on common science/physics. And, the vinyl records and record players as we know them today pretty much work on the exact same principle, where a neetle/stylus moves over grooves in a disk to play sound waves (of course the difference being that vinyl records use, well, vinyl... and not wax :)).
@benjsmithproductions
@benjsmithproductions 2 жыл бұрын
How our children will view cassettes and VHS
@sinnpause
@sinnpause 5 жыл бұрын
any Tims watching?
@ShannonpdpHammond-yy7yh
@ShannonpdpHammond-yy7yh 9 ай бұрын
the smacking is killing me
@prawnstar9213
@prawnstar9213 7 ай бұрын
Well, this man must be nervous or he naturally talks so fast you’ll be lucky to catch any detail. 😅
@oskarlo733
@oskarlo733 4 жыл бұрын
wow not electronics there
@jelly5022
@jelly5022 4 жыл бұрын
Sapphires on top diamond in the middle iron on the bottom but diamond is overrated.
@alviratulaha8618
@alviratulaha8618 2 жыл бұрын
And it requires no electricity!
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 8 жыл бұрын
Better than cds! Lol. =)
@StephenRahrig
@StephenRahrig 2 жыл бұрын
…this explains absolutely nothing 😅
@joshhopper9307
@joshhopper9307 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome content,but I despise the narrators voice and manner of speaking. And for god sake,stop smacking your teeth!
@Trudragon88
@Trudragon88 5 жыл бұрын
I think this was alien technology
@SiriusLight
@SiriusLight 7 жыл бұрын
You can tell this guy is lost in theory bla bla. Let's start with mambo jumbo english (did you know that not everyone is a native english speaker?!), lets continue with general useless description, show the amazing rotor!! and then don't explain the core component physics of it...damn is it so hard to be practical. Answer: Yesss! that's why centuries have to pass, for one bright mind to appear, make smt useful, that even after a century people can't grasp.
@davealias4861
@davealias4861 5 жыл бұрын
("did you know that not everyone is a native English speaker?!"), Yes, but this is America and we speak English here, thusly the video is in English!
@erikseavey9445
@erikseavey9445 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we realize not everyone is a native speaker but we can't speak everyone's language all at the same time and considering you are the one who's on a English speaking persons video I think you sound kind of a bit like a entitled dumb ass.
@LyneisFilm
@LyneisFilm 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there are even haters out there when it comes to Edison phonographs.
@kevinwells5925
@kevinwells5925 2 жыл бұрын
All cool, but Edison didn’t invent it.
@EdisonTechCenter
@EdisonTechCenter 2 жыл бұрын
So what was his role? making it cheap to mass produce through some tweaks? branding it through his company while an employee perfected it? Buying the crude invention from another and making it marketable? Those are the usual answers.
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