How the first ever telecoms scam worked

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Tom Scott

Tom Scott

Күн бұрын

In the 1830s, two French brothers, François and Joseph Blanc, pulled off the first telecoms scam in history. The optical telegraph, a line of semaphore towers stretching from hilltop to hilltop, was for government use only: but something as simple as the law wasn't going to get in their way.
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@TomScottGo
@TomScottGo 6 жыл бұрын
Quick tip if you ever go to France: don't let the rental car company give you a free upgrade to an SUV. SUVs do not fit well on tiny rural French roads.
@tratoc
@tratoc 6 жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@tracey6299
@tracey6299 6 жыл бұрын
This will be handy
@hlfan
@hlfan 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom
@GrouchyGander
@GrouchyGander 6 жыл бұрын
Noted.
@patrickhanft
@patrickhanft 6 жыл бұрын
with the increased fuel consumption I don't see, why it would be free anyway … ;-)
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 6 жыл бұрын
I never know what to expect with any of these videos, I just know I'm going to learn something really cool on a random subject.
@gregdabrat
@gregdabrat 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@KiwiBirdYes
@KiwiBirdYes 3 жыл бұрын
The kiwi approves.
@seaspotter2469
@seaspotter2469 3 жыл бұрын
Didnt expect to see you here
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@payasoartwork5906 does somebody need a hug?
@seaspotter2469
@seaspotter2469 3 жыл бұрын
@@SkillsWithPhil hi Phil
@iplaywhatiwant3738
@iplaywhatiwant3738 3 жыл бұрын
"I hired a French translator to read the original source to me." You, sir, are backbone of integraty in journalism.
@boxinabox6608
@boxinabox6608 2 жыл бұрын
Integrity*
@narmale
@narmale Жыл бұрын
thats REAL journalism, not muckraking and always talking about sex, sexuality or racism
@narmale
@narmale Жыл бұрын
@@Brianz99 glad to see you dont care about anything but tabloids
@lucbloom
@lucbloom Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: it’s a French patron supporter that got a coupon for Ikea.
@narmale
@narmale Жыл бұрын
@@lucbloom 🤣🤣🤣
@catfish552
@catfish552 6 жыл бұрын
Other KZbinrs: Make video about thing you found online and spent half an hour googling for research. Tom Scott: Film on location, in two different countries, and hire a researcher to check original sources in an archive.
@liamguy2820
@liamguy2820 6 жыл бұрын
And this is why we love Tom
@MattsAwesomeStuff
@MattsAwesomeStuff 6 жыл бұрын
Tom doesn't travel to produce KZbin content. His channel is a way to fund him travelling. We're all in on the scam and I can't say I even care.
@duanedibbley258
@duanedibbley258 6 жыл бұрын
Wait this isn’t a green screen?
@Cythil
@Cythil 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. Tom is actually fully computer generated. But do not tell anyone! >_>
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 6 жыл бұрын
KZbin demonetizes both.
@briangarrow448
@briangarrow448 6 жыл бұрын
"The beacon fires from Gondor have been lit! Will Rohan ride to her aid?" Or will Theoden short trade a major monetary deal with the dwarves of the Iron Hills?- check back next week for part 2 of The Monetary Scams of Middle Earth...
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 6 жыл бұрын
The _Agamemnon_ of Aeschylus begins with a watchman seeing a beacon fire signalling the fall of Troy. It's not a new idea.
@igorbednarski8048
@igorbednarski8048 6 жыл бұрын
I'd read that book.
@Roxolan
@Roxolan 6 жыл бұрын
They are not all accounted for, the lost seeing stones. We do not know who else may be watching. Don't say another word about the price of pipe-weed.
@InfamousArmstrong
@InfamousArmstrong 6 жыл бұрын
Written by George R. R. Martin.
@AmitDebnath09
@AmitDebnath09 6 жыл бұрын
LOLOL thats a good one!
@AirborneSurfer
@AirborneSurfer 6 жыл бұрын
I mean *technically* they transmitted at the speed of light. The lag was just caused by the individual nodes' switching speeds.
@rhueoflandorin
@rhueoflandorin 6 жыл бұрын
incorrect. the speed of the message is calculated by dividing the distance between point of origin and point of reception by the time it took from the message being sent to the message being delivered.
@cody7888
@cody7888 6 жыл бұрын
@@AppleGameification No u.
@antisatorirecords
@antisatorirecords 6 жыл бұрын
I love this xx
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 6 жыл бұрын
I think you're confusing total latency with the medium latency.
@iemand123456789
@iemand123456789 5 жыл бұрын
haha nice thought, but that would also mean literally everything moves at the speed of light when you look at it like that, nice thought though
@BrandtRedd
@BrandtRedd 6 жыл бұрын
Alexandre Dumas' _The Count of Monte Cristo_ includes an episode where the count ruins one of his adversaries by sending a false message about the stock market through the telegraph system. Published in 1844 it was about a decade after the escapade by the brothers Blanc. No doubt Dumas was inspired by the story when it came out.
@GwresYnKernow
@GwresYnKernow 6 жыл бұрын
Aha, I commented just now before reading the comments about vaguely remembering something like this. Thanks for clarifying!
@TorreFernand
@TorreFernand 6 жыл бұрын
Except that, in Dumas' story, The Count doesn't think about that guy at Tours and the flaw is discovered a lot quicker
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 5 жыл бұрын
That's a bit of a stretch. A false message is entirely different matter than true information sent at higher speed. Thanks for trying to make "great" literature trivia sound relevant, though!
@Michael_Lederman
@Michael_Lederman 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Sir Terry Pratchett's Discworld and the use of the Clacks clearly moduled on this.
@Meddled
@Meddled 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael_Lederman I was thinking of Going Postal throughout this video!
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 6 жыл бұрын
From this channel I've learned so much that I didn't know that I wanted to know.
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 6 жыл бұрын
Squiggs 【Glitches - ROM Hacks - Speedruns】 hi!
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 6 жыл бұрын
WOAH! Hi friend!! How strange to see you here! Hahah, this is crazy!
@DerMannInDerWand
@DerMannInDerWand 6 жыл бұрын
Things You Might Not Know But You Also Don't Know How Much You Would Want To Know Them If You Knew Them is just not as snappy a title
@wcolby
@wcolby 5 жыл бұрын
Squiggs 【Glitches - ROM Hacks - Speedruns】 I was happy not knowing the things I knew I didn’t know. 😀
@JohnnyBooi
@JohnnyBooi 4 жыл бұрын
@@DerMannInDerWand "Things"
@dXXPacmanXXb
@dXXPacmanXXb 6 жыл бұрын
so much work for a 5 minute video, Tom is so great. What did we do to deserve him?
@ArminGrewe
@ArminGrewe 6 жыл бұрын
Without wanting to take away anything from Tom's work, that's quite often how good film making works. Wildlife photographers and filmers regularly spend days or even weeks for the perfect shot or perfect sequence. And in some cases they even have to try it again and again for years (e.g. for rare and short mating rituals or for the young leaving the nest as that only happens once a year)
@PebsBeans
@PebsBeans 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArminGrewe but those people are professionals. tom is a random guy on youtube
@adithyastren6218
@adithyastren6218 4 жыл бұрын
@@PebsBeans who makes money and is therefore a professional.
@TheMitchellExpress
@TheMitchellExpress 3 жыл бұрын
@@PebsBeans Tom is absolutely a professional.
@duxofducks
@duxofducks 3 жыл бұрын
the ba dum tiss video getting as popular as it did
@aapjeaaron
@aapjeaaron 6 жыл бұрын
This was happening even before. When the Dutch just started trading stocks in Indian charter company boats you had spotters looking at ships off the coast of Portugal to then rush back to Amsterdam selling the information that certain ships made it past the dangerous parts of the journey and were likely to arrive in some weeks time.
@sarahprunierlaw9147
@sarahprunierlaw9147 6 жыл бұрын
wow!
@mjn84
@mjn84 3 жыл бұрын
sorry, I didn't understand a word. Could you please use points and commas?
@danimayb
@danimayb 2 жыл бұрын
How is that a telecoms scam?? And spotters were a common thing back then!
@EriniusT
@EriniusT 2 жыл бұрын
How did the spotters make it back to Amsterdam faster than those ships? Did they just have faster ships?
@aapjeaaron
@aapjeaaron 2 жыл бұрын
@@EriniusTThey went on horseback. Pony express style. They had the added benefit that they could go in a straighter line.
@sirrliv
@sirrliv 6 жыл бұрын
So this is basically a real life equivalent to the "Clacks Towers" from the late Sir Terry Pratchett's Discworld series? Wow! I had no idea such a concept had ever been used for real, even if this is a different form of the idea, using hinged arms instead of shuttered lamps. Thanks so much for sharing this with us, Tom! My creative mind is flowing.
@Zeuseus6609
@Zeuseus6609 2 жыл бұрын
If you read all the discworld books the firat time the clacks shows up (i think in Night Watch) it's using semaphore rather than lights and shutters.
@illi-the-wolf
@illi-the-wolf 2 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett
@peterkaplar1660
@peterkaplar1660 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someon else would think about the clack towers as well. :D And the shenanigans they pulled with it. :D
@DJChrisNeon
@DJChrisNeon Жыл бұрын
@@Zeuseus6609 I've read that and don't remember that. Clearly I need to read it again. Any excuse to read Pratchett 😁
@boulderbash19700209
@boulderbash19700209 Жыл бұрын
The earlier story that used the towers for its plot was Count Of Monte Cristo by Alexander Dumas.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 6 жыл бұрын
The idea of banning private semaphore towers, without providing any public alternatives, probably made perfect sense in the 19th century; nobody knew what that sort of rapid communication network could do for the civilian sector that would be worth anything. (Of course, the low bandwidth limits what could be done with it, but there were absolutely still possibilities.) To someone in the 21st century, that idea sounds ludicrous; we've built so much on a publically-available high-speed communication system that we can't imagine anyone being so foolish as to throw all that aside.
@karolkozik5918
@karolkozik5918 6 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean Or at least some of us think so...
@thecodingethan
@thecodingethan 6 жыл бұрын
because there's only so much to go around
@YensR
@YensR 6 жыл бұрын
I think your critique of anti-net neutrality is a bit too subtle, but well-played!
@bob_._.
@bob_._. 6 жыл бұрын
Low bandwidth limits? It was the backbone of its day.
@timothyhilditch
@timothyhilditch 6 жыл бұрын
This guy uses like bots.
@nl5494
@nl5494 2 жыл бұрын
“Semaphore message incoming. They want to know about your car’s extended warranty.” “What the hell is a car?”
@38vocan
@38vocan Жыл бұрын
Did you know Steve Jobs died of Ligma?
@MarlenNurmakov
@MarlenNurmakov Жыл бұрын
I believe they had cars in 19th century
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 Жыл бұрын
@@MarlenNurmakov Karl Benz's _Motorwagen_ only came along in the 1880s, whereas the Blanc Brothers did all their scamming in the 1830s or thereabouts. I think it's more likely they would've understood "car" to mean either "carriage" or "train car" depending on exactly what year it was. (The word "car" is attested from the Middle Ages and originally just meant any wheeled vehicle like a wagon, carriage, cart, or chariot, from the Latin _carrus_ meaning "wagon".)
@MarlenNurmakov
@MarlenNurmakov Жыл бұрын
@@yetanother9127 I meant exactly carriages and wagons.
@SnowDemonAkuma
@SnowDemonAkuma 6 жыл бұрын
Liked for the audio/visual synch clap being left in~
@andrewholmes7092
@andrewholmes7092 6 жыл бұрын
He's sending a signal to someone ;)
@omri9325
@omri9325 6 жыл бұрын
When?
@omri9325
@omri9325 6 жыл бұрын
NVM, It's at 0:43
@lukef.132
@lukef.132 6 жыл бұрын
yeah. considering his level of editing, idk how it got left in...
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Fletcher intentionally.
@zappawoman5183
@zappawoman5183 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Clacks! GNU Sir Terry Pratchett.
@PabloLaConecta
@PabloLaConecta 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely a Smoking GNU.
@gildedbear5355
@gildedbear5355 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely. I came to the comments to say "the Clacks was real‽"
@Adumb_
@Adumb_ 6 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Was just about to comment this.
@rumaddzero9100
@rumaddzero9100 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, it's amazing
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 6 жыл бұрын
Where do you think Pratchet got the idea?
@fifebielby4147
@fifebielby4147 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott isn't just a professional youtuber he's a professional professional youtuber.
@aratakarkosh9588
@aratakarkosh9588 2 жыл бұрын
homo sapiens sapiens
@efari
@efari 6 жыл бұрын
so you're telling me there had to be loads of unfortunate telecom operators watching their neighbour's tower 8 hours a day? imagine one of them needing to go to the toilet, the entire line would stand still.
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they had more than one person at each tower? Or would the potential delay be acceptable?
@twistedtachyon5877
@twistedtachyon5877 6 жыл бұрын
Given that the whole point was to be the fastest thing going, I'd assume there were at least two blokes in every shack so that they could take turns staring at a tower.
@telemachin
@telemachin 5 жыл бұрын
2 guys in a tower, and a tower every 15km/8mi... This system was using a lot of manpower.
@ShankarSivarajan
@ShankarSivarajan 5 жыл бұрын
@@telemachin Not that many. Paris to Bordeaux is ~600 km, so fewer than a 100, with your numbers.
@rezap1356
@rezap1356 3 жыл бұрын
I think a toilet incident would have simply resulted in a lot of 'packet loss', unless tower operators were tasked to watch BOTH preceding and succeeding towers and specially 'handshakes with the one after them (not very likely).
@TimeTravelingBunnis
@TimeTravelingBunnis 4 жыл бұрын
When you find out Terry Pratchett wasnt making this stuff up.
@Richpaisley
@Richpaisley 2 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett
@calledsomething
@calledsomething 2 жыл бұрын
I just love Tom’s dedication to giving the absolute best information he can, he always goes the extra mile to make sure the things he shares are reliable, and is so willing to be honest when he can’t give a 100%. No lies, no overhyping anything, just accessible, trustworthy information.
@Necrotoxin44
@Necrotoxin44 6 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed you paid a translator. It adds a lot of credibility to your story, and the fact that you care enough to seek out the more definite source encourages me greatly to keep watching your content. Thanks for all your hard work!
@TheUncommonVideo
@TheUncommonVideo 6 жыл бұрын
Huh, I didn't know The Clacks from the Discworld was based on a real thing, though I probably should have guessed. GNU Terry Pratchett.
@Endermensinspace
@Endermensinspace 6 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett.
@daveoldham8783
@daveoldham8783 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Carter-Groves My thoughts too.
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 6 жыл бұрын
Of course
@scitortubeyou
@scitortubeyou 6 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett
@mrkrunch4340
@mrkrunch4340 6 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett
@AngeloMichel
@AngeloMichel 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom Scott. It has to be said.. just on this random video. You make awesome stuff. You didn't change all that much, and I mean that in a good way. A lot of channels I followed have changed to a point that I no longer van enjoy them. But you didn't. Keep sharing (also your fanbase/community ofc!). Cheers
@GermaphobeMusic
@GermaphobeMusic 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel for learning things that I'll probably never need to know.
@skaparinn
@skaparinn Жыл бұрын
For anybody wondering this is the Tour Chappe in Marcy, near Lyon. It has nothing to do with the Paris-Bordeaux line he's talking as it is located on the Paris-Lyon line. But it's one of the few towers that has been restored and is now fonctional. You can even visit it!
@dpmakestuff
@dpmakestuff 6 жыл бұрын
I think I love you Tom. You have a found your purpose on earth with these videos.
@gregdabrat
@gregdabrat 3 жыл бұрын
Ghgh
@allanrichardson1468
@allanrichardson1468 6 жыл бұрын
At one time, Boy Scout troops taught semaphore using square flags, one in each hand. Navies had a similar system as a backup to the radio. Very well known traditional tech.
@mayadancey6101
@mayadancey6101 2 жыл бұрын
While not required now, one current merit badge that a scout can earn does include learning flag code.
@JefffRushton
@JefffRushton 6 жыл бұрын
when the son of the deposed king of Nigeria calls you directly, asking for help, you help! His father ran the freaking country! Ok?
@anonUK
@anonUK 6 жыл бұрын
The son of the deposed monarch of Nigeria is Prince Charles. These scammers obviously aren't counting on their marks being able to Google stuff. How stupid do they think we are?
@theondono
@theondono 6 жыл бұрын
anonUK precisely because you can google it, you are not the mark they are looking for. It’s not crappy because they are bad at it, it’s that crappy scams get the right type of naive fools
@Judge371
@Judge371 4 жыл бұрын
For those who don't know, the original comment was quoting michael scott from the office
@kathrynblodgett1969
@kathrynblodgett1969 6 жыл бұрын
As mentioned by others...an amazing amount of work, to give me a 5 min. history lesson, that I found very interesting. I'll bet most of the people who eventually read this, had no idea this exsited. So much history is lost, because at the time it was just regular stuff everybody knew about.
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 6 жыл бұрын
This particular invention got a mention in a couple of popular books, _Going Postal_ among them. Not to forget Dumas's _The Count of Monte Cristo._ I suspect it's in no danger of being forgotten any time soon. ;)
@kathrynblodgett1969
@kathrynblodgett1969 6 жыл бұрын
@@tibfulv Thank you. I didn't know Going Postal was a book. In the US it's a phrase descriping a person freaking out in the work place. The network news used the phrase, I thought they made it up. As for "The Count...' I could never get into that particular Dumas. But I do enjoy historical fiction. Time to try again.
@tracey6299
@tracey6299 6 жыл бұрын
10/10 Content as always
@PaulPaulPaulson
@PaulPaulPaulson 6 жыл бұрын
Technically, those towers transmitted at the speed of light
@patrickhanft
@patrickhanft 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, dial up connections via old modems would technically also transmit at the speed of light (or the equivalent of electrons within copper, which should be around 2/3 of c, or something like this). Doesn't mean, they are fast! :-D
@bdf2718
@bdf2718 6 жыл бұрын
The latency was a bit of a bugger, though.
@andreww2098
@andreww2098 6 жыл бұрын
the ping was in days
@radon1221
@radon1221 6 жыл бұрын
300,000,000 m/s
@StansStuff
@StansStuff 6 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of an e-gamer bribing a semaphore operator to get faster ping
@EastyyBlogspot
@EastyyBlogspot 6 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing about Semaphore in the Count of Monte cristo where The count bribes a person who worked there to send a message that spain was at war to ruin one his enemies who had invested.
@baylinkdashyt
@baylinkdashyt 6 жыл бұрын
"I hired a French researcher to go to the archives in Paris." Thanks, KZbin. Tom, you may not quite be the new James Burke... But I think you're really damned close... I'd like to see you try something long form like that. I don't know what; you probably know better than I do.
@lukassnakeman
@lukassnakeman 6 жыл бұрын
ive been listening to the count of monte cristo lately and there is actually a few mentions of these towers in the book. and in a late 20th century movie adaptation there is a scene where one can be seen
@hxhuang9306
@hxhuang9306 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Read the book and always wondered about how it works. Thanks Tom.
@jeaguilar
@jeaguilar 6 жыл бұрын
Mentions? Spoiler alert: It's a major plot point!
@otakuribo
@otakuribo 6 жыл бұрын
Prior to the intention of optical semaphore towers, dozens of French citizens were employed to wave their arms about from the rooftops.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant :-D Of course, in Italy they didn't even need to be paid!
@dshack4689
@dshack4689 4 жыл бұрын
Wow great video! Loved how the signal was encoded "invisibly" by the backspace function.
@AliceQuinnRose
@AliceQuinnRose 6 жыл бұрын
Well now I know more about the reserch behind going postal
@utility63
@utility63 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very odd comment if you don't know that Going Postal is a book.
@Vinemaple
@Vinemaple 2 жыл бұрын
And thank you, Tom, for showing us a real-life, honest-to-goodness Clacks tower from the original (?) French network! Or a gorgeous replica. Optical telegraphs are a bit of trivia I've just happened to know since I was very, very young (thanks, weird tech museum at Rocky Reach Dam), and it was lovely to see that one still exists, or has been recreated! Not to mention a version of the Blanc brothers scam taken straight from the French sources, well done.
@bruzie900
@bruzie900 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Grand Trunk. Keep him alive in the Overhead..
@pintpullinggeek
@pintpullinggeek 6 жыл бұрын
Not enough people get this reference...but I do. De Chelonian Mobile
@MartinSStoller
@MartinSStoller 6 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett.
@MarceldeJong
@MarceldeJong 6 жыл бұрын
@@pintpullinggeek indeed the turtle moves
@RoseIllo
@RoseIllo 4 жыл бұрын
Yessss. I was looking for this reference
@gottfriedvongrunfeld7128
@gottfriedvongrunfeld7128 Жыл бұрын
I finally get to see a real-world example of what the telegraph towers looked like in L. Sprague De Camp's "Lest Darkness Fall". Always wondered about those
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace 6 жыл бұрын
Could someone (such as an certain enterprising KZbinr) set up visual semaphores to transmit Internet Packets, then use that (very slow) link to send a Tweet?
@AirborneSurfer
@AirborneSurfer 6 жыл бұрын
On it....designing a system now. Check with me in a few weeks.
@entropyzero5588
@entropyzero5588 6 жыл бұрын
At least it would probably beat IPoAC (rfc1149) ;)
@battlesheep2552
@battlesheep2552 6 жыл бұрын
It’ll still be better than dealing with Comcast
@gwenynorisu6883
@gwenynorisu6883 5 жыл бұрын
I would be stunned if it hasn't _already_ happened, tbh. Be fairly simple to get a proof of concept going between neighbouring tower blocks with some meccano and a couple of webcams duct taped onto telescopes. Or maybe Kinects?
@vincentmuyo
@vincentmuyo 5 жыл бұрын
For throughput, I think rfc1149 still got it beat.
@jpe1
@jpe1 6 жыл бұрын
Two questions come to mind: what was the very last message sent via French semaphore tower? Is there an RFC for a TCP/IP implementation over semaphore tower (presumably similar to RFC 4824)?
@stensoft
@stensoft 6 жыл бұрын
1) AFAIK nobody knows. There was no good bye message. People didn't think of such things in the 1850s. 2) Not yet :)
@DRSDavidSoft
@DRSDavidSoft 6 жыл бұрын
IETF should really write one for this!
@davidweihe6052
@davidweihe6052 6 жыл бұрын
The British had semaphore telegraph system during the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, although I think that they were abandoned afterwards. Signalling as far as can be seen fails badly in fog or rain, even with telescopes, and so was not felt worth the trouble and expense over sending riders, since there was felt to be no chance of missing an invasion.
@stensoft
@stensoft 6 жыл бұрын
@David Weihe Actually, it was abandoned because of a brand new invention: telegraph
@gcewing
@gcewing 6 жыл бұрын
Rule 34 for communication protocols: If a communication medium exists, there is a TCP/IP implementation for it (or there soon will be).
@_Egitor
@_Egitor 6 жыл бұрын
Way to credit your researchers Tom, amazing work from all of you too on this one!
@hobbitilius
@hobbitilius 6 жыл бұрын
The amount and quality of research that was put into this video is incredible. Thanks for the great work Victoria and Tom.
@computertech3986
@computertech3986 4 жыл бұрын
Ye old 1G tower
@imonlysleeping4491
@imonlysleeping4491 3 ай бұрын
4 years, 6 likes, but still the best comment
@annakeye
@annakeye 6 жыл бұрын
Genius! Love this story. I love stories where there's no real victims, as such. No one was injured, no one went bust. It shows that people will always try to find a short cut. Joe and Frank White are fortunate that they didn't meet the shiny part of la guillotine.
@BGerbs66
@BGerbs66 6 жыл бұрын
In The Count of Monte Cristo, the Count abused the French semaphore network to make false news that financially crippled one of his old rivals.
@Attaxalotl
@Attaxalotl 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I have a version where the count sets one of the rivals up to be kidnapped and forced to pay back all the money that the rival had just taken, but the count does the actual kidnapping. The other rival is dealt with by exposing the fact that the guy literally sold a fortress in greece to the turks.
@froschnmaximus9108
@froschnmaximus9108 6 жыл бұрын
going postal - the globe world version.... Thanks Tom, reminds me to read the masterpieces of Sir Pratchett again ;)
@AlexVoxel
@AlexVoxel 6 жыл бұрын
This is the content that make your channel great
@bdf2718
@bdf2718 6 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the semaphore erected in the Wizard's Tower. A very important part of the scam. :)
@MarceldeJong
@MarceldeJong 6 жыл бұрын
Just beware of the owls and Mister Gryle.
@Alex4296
@Alex4296 6 жыл бұрын
Lived in Tours for five years whish I heard that story before. Great video as usual !
@stevepittman3770
@stevepittman3770 6 жыл бұрын
Re:getting trading news faster -- in the ~90s there was a big race to buy up all the data lines closest to the NYSE and Nasdaq. There's a stock exchange in the US (IEX, founded in 2012) that via a 38 mile loop of fiber injects a minimum delay specifically to counteract this advantage for close-proximity, high-frequency traders. Might be worth a video on its own next time you're in the NYC area.
@jeffreyhueseman7061
@jeffreyhueseman7061 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the dark money book
@zucc4764
@zucc4764 5 жыл бұрын
Tom also made a video about this exact topic.
@malif1279
@malif1279 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, did Tom get inspired to make the video about that same topic from comments like this?
@zaidlacksalastname4905
@zaidlacksalastname4905 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a scam ad before this video, my life is complete
@epicgo0se
@epicgo0se 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in IT and I happen to know this is a current issue today with respect to Tier 1 providers being bribed or explored. It drastically can affect the amount of time advantage certain broker firms have. The FCC doesn't investigate this yet imposes harsh penalties on service vendors and customers. Net neutrality is a massive issue.
@peterclarke7240
@peterclarke7240 3 жыл бұрын
Dammit, here was me thinking Pratchett made up the Clacks towers from scratch. I should have known the clever bugger would have done his research and modified something that actually existed!
@EpicBandicoot
@EpicBandicoot 6 жыл бұрын
I love that you don't make your videos 10 minutes. There's SO MUCH information, and you can compact it down so that it's watchable. Thank you
@Dazlidorne
@Dazlidorne 3 жыл бұрын
The main difference between now and then is that it is totally legal for big Wall Street firms to have an advantage in speed of communications that the average trader does not have. We've made corruption legal.
@dryued6874
@dryued6874 6 жыл бұрын
That's freaking steganography. Nice.
@SEThatered
@SEThatered 6 жыл бұрын
No other youtuber's video makes me so happy to see in my feed as yours. I can't even out a finger on what exactly is so appealing in them, I just know i love them!
@azdgariarada
@azdgariarada 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Victoria!
@TheOnirayju
@TheOnirayju 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Bordeaux and I had never seen one of those, or even heard of that. Loved it
@mastweiler22
@mastweiler22 6 жыл бұрын
Terry Pratchett's Clacks Tower... almost :-)
@iainhewitt
@iainhewitt 6 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it!
@mrkrunch4340
@mrkrunch4340 6 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 6 жыл бұрын
@@mrkrunch4340 what.does GNU mean? Other than "GNU's not Unix"
@mrkrunch4340
@mrkrunch4340 6 жыл бұрын
@@vaclav_fejt G means to send the message to all towers, U means to turn the message around at the end of the line (combining both means the message will travel the line forever) and N means to "not log" the message in the tower's logbook/message drum.
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 6 жыл бұрын
@@mrkrunch4340 A man's not dead till people speak his name!
@3006spikespiegel
@3006spikespiegel 6 жыл бұрын
Pressed Like for mentioning "Tours"... Loved that city...lived there for 6 years and never heard about this story... amazing...Thank you!
@LunarSpotlight
@LunarSpotlight 6 жыл бұрын
Can't help but notice the cloud smiling over Tom's shoulder starting around 4:50.
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that Going Postal was based on the real world
@MidtownSkyport
@MidtownSkyport 6 жыл бұрын
Just about every fantastic thing Pratchett wrote about had a real-life counterpart, often only slightly less fantastic and ridiculous
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 6 жыл бұрын
Of course it was
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG 6 жыл бұрын
Pratchett was a great reader of Victorian reference books, by which I mean both reference books about the Victorians and, primarily, reference books written by Victorians about everything.
@Kakurady
@Kakurady 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes more.
@Kakurady
@Kakurady 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes more.
@Awesomeness-iz3dh
@Awesomeness-iz3dh Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating and such an incredible tale. Thank you for sharing information like this with the world!
@arceye89
@arceye89 6 жыл бұрын
The Beacons are Lit. Gondor Calls for Aid
@dickjohnson4447
@dickjohnson4447 6 жыл бұрын
Mmmm delicious beacons
@lvkeyne
@lvkeyne 6 жыл бұрын
And Rohan will answ. . . oh, never mind. They've backspaced.
@Οδοιπόρος
@Οδοιπόρος 6 жыл бұрын
Bru you know it those beacons are lit af
@SolarWebsite
@SolarWebsite Жыл бұрын
I think this is Tom's best video ever, and he has made some really, really good ones.
@PowahSlapEntertainmint
@PowahSlapEntertainmint 6 жыл бұрын
I bet these guys were just phoning it in.
@hajfksdl
@hajfksdl 6 жыл бұрын
PowahSlap Entertainmint lmao
@GermaphobeMusic
@GermaphobeMusic 6 жыл бұрын
how do i delete someone's comment
@Jelkiin
@Jelkiin 6 жыл бұрын
*WHY ARE YOU HERE?*
@Jelkiin
@Jelkiin 6 жыл бұрын
Since i subbed to you I’ve seen you’ve everywhere
@odizzido
@odizzido 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's great you went for good sources. Nice video
@theuser810
@theuser810 Жыл бұрын
If these optical telegraphs were legal for private use, one could potentially send a signal to another unrelated telegraph line, causing mixed communications. I guess a solution for that would be to require lines to be painted with specific colour bands to distinguish them.
@michaelhiggins7365
@michaelhiggins7365 6 жыл бұрын
As an Amateur Radio (Ham Radio) Operator, I find this super interesting. Well done!
@Jon.......
@Jon....... 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading an article once about a private financial network that was thwarted from getting the lead on its competitors by technicians installing a (hidden) local fiber patch in their colo / data center space that was several kilometers long, thus increasing the time to send/receive messages by a few microseconds ... enough to make a difference.
@jtd8719
@jtd8719 Жыл бұрын
I think that you might me talking about the intentional 'speed bump' used by IEX to thwart parasitic high-frequency trading on that exchange.
@PeterT1981
@PeterT1981 4 жыл бұрын
Remarkable production. Your delivery is very engaging and professional. I enjoy your work immensely
@brachypelmasmith
@brachypelmasmith 6 жыл бұрын
Wasnt something similar plot point in Count Monte Cristo?
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 6 жыл бұрын
That was just bribing someone to include a false message to distort the market till the real news got around.
@rngwrldngnr
@rngwrldngnr 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Victoria.
@treyforest2466
@treyforest2466 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO They made the clacks from Discworld into a real thing 😂😂😂
@kaldo_kaldo
@kaldo_kaldo 3 жыл бұрын
Terry Pratchett isn't that old
@moosefactory133
@moosefactory133 Жыл бұрын
In the age before electronic communications, I couldn't get past how clever people were back then to come up with a mechanical system to send information across vast distances at incredible fast speeds. Truly amazing.
@a.i.l1074
@a.i.l1074 6 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that French names sound classy in English, variations on theme: we think Italian pasta names sound cool, but native Italians are literally ordering like "little hats in tomato sauce please"
@thebluewhale8891
@thebluewhale8891 5 жыл бұрын
Ye, I'd like a pile 'o top hat in a sphere filled with tomahto sus please¿
@TheDundeeBiscuitLuvU
@TheDundeeBiscuitLuvU 6 жыл бұрын
This is your best video in a while (which is meant as no insult to your work as of late)
@MusikCassette
@MusikCassette 6 жыл бұрын
sounds like the Clacks Towers in going postal.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos.
@jackhocking1689
@jackhocking1689 6 жыл бұрын
Love you Tom x
@BulkernatorKerb
@BulkernatorKerb Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for this fantastic video. I had never actually heard about semaphore towers before
@ChrisBeard
@ChrisBeard 6 жыл бұрын
Ankh Morpork Clacks messaging. Epic!
@Travoid
@Travoid 6 жыл бұрын
Tom, you have the best channel on KZbin. The content is always fascinating and never feels like a waste of time. Thanks!
@TakeruDavis
@TakeruDavis 6 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett
@imagesbyraphael
@imagesbyraphael 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard not to admire the creativity of these criminals.
@anneaunyme
@anneaunyme 6 жыл бұрын
As a French person I always thought everyone knew about the semaphores... Well, apparently that's not true.
@russcrawford3310
@russcrawford3310 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you mama Victoria ... we all love you ...
@michaelhunt6019
@michaelhunt6019 Жыл бұрын
I find your titles and topics seemingly mundane and yet, you never disappoint in your depth and breadth of knowledge. You connect the dots and let me see the whole picture. Thank you Tom.
@Smibeanie
@Smibeanie 2 жыл бұрын
"Gondor has requested memes!" .. "And Gondor will send cat pics"
@kagitsune
@kagitsune 6 жыл бұрын
The scam sounds like something you could do to mop up data on an unencrypted network. I wish I knew more about the subject to articulate what I'm actually thinking of...
@atianfirebolt8125
@atianfirebolt8125 6 жыл бұрын
Any unencrypted data isn't worth your time.
@Chartreugz
@Chartreugz 6 жыл бұрын
@Atian Firebolt Not necessarily true, even metadata like "who is sending signals and at what times?" or "When is the highest volume of messages in a day?" can be important.
@Seafox0011
@Seafox0011 6 жыл бұрын
Naomi PR indeed even ‘crumbs from the table’ can tell you what was being eaten for dinner...
@A-Sync-Employee
@A-Sync-Employee 6 жыл бұрын
My local police radio signals are unencrypted and i can tell you they are quite interesting to listen to.
@jlammetje
@jlammetje 6 жыл бұрын
There are actually exploits that sort of use this principle. A type of virus that will send instructions (send “wrong symbol”), knowing they will not be carried out (backspace, sorry, left out of transcript), because the side effect will still be there (signal was sent, just not written down in the transcript). It’s not an exact match, but it reminded me of that. I can’t remember the name of the virus though. Targets certain kinds of processors
@ulalaFrugilega
@ulalaFrugilega Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous video, dear Tom!
@idlebrit
@idlebrit 6 жыл бұрын
Pratchett Clacks!
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee 2 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely fascinating story. Really one of the best I've seen.
@gregwilmot3260
@gregwilmot3260 6 жыл бұрын
You said 18th century france when in fact it took place in 1830s. This would be the 19th century.
@durhamdavesbg4948
@durhamdavesbg4948 6 жыл бұрын
As in the semaphore system was built in the late 18th century.
@xdeler
@xdeler 6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how much time and effort you seem to put into your videos. They are always very interesting and I just wish the world had more Toms so we could get more videos like this one! I am very thankful for the one Tom and all of his crew we have the privilege of being entertained by, though. Thank you!
@vkoskiv
@vkoskiv 6 жыл бұрын
So much info packed into this short video. I want to watch it again now!
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably worth noting that speed of information flow has been an issue basically since people started using stock exchanges as a significant income generator, as has decision making. When it was a building full of physical people and you had to get info published, having your office next door was beneficial so you could have an employee sit there and listen to things and report back when interesting stuff happened. Better yet, be there yourself. (Personally I'd argue that these people are lunatics and short term analysis suffers from a major problem with signal to noise ratio, and that it's far more advisable to make long term investments in businesses that you can reasonably project will be profitable over the next few years, especially if they pay dividends, because being paid to own your investment is better than not being paid to own something.)
@mithrandirearendur1282
@mithrandirearendur1282 6 жыл бұрын
Liked just for the amount of work put into making sure this is correct info.
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