How the PROS add DEPTH to their Recordings (and you can too)

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Andrew Masters

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@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Share this with a friend in need of some depth!
@tonyeastwood4676
@tonyeastwood4676 Жыл бұрын
warm audio is killing it. dope video
@smithnisar4928
@smithnisar4928 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this one was very helpful. Thanks! Will try this out... Cheers!
@darrenchristianson6009
@darrenchristianson6009 Жыл бұрын
I always hate saying this but.. yep.."Back in the day" everything we recorded had multiple sources or mics on it. Guitar cabinets, acoustic guitars, pianos, etc would always have 2 or 3 mics. I do think as people moved into their bedrooms to record over the last 20 or so years, inputs became scarce and these pro techniques began to disappear as it all became DIY. I'm glad to see the return of consoles, knobs, and button pushing and all the quality that brings. Very happy to see folks digging into the art, sciences and craft of sound engineering. As always. I enjoyed this video very much. Thanks for sharing and keep 'em coming. Also.. wanted to share this great example of doing these techniques on drums.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKK5n59moN6Deas
@willkeebler6635
@willkeebler6635 Жыл бұрын
A shootout between the Warm pair vs your AKG c414 pair would be great!
@scottchamley181
@scottchamley181 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew. Sounds great! I have some ideas about adding depth from watching the same Bruce Swedien video just recently! So great of you to make an awesome video on it. I think the way Bruce adds depth to keys is really cool. Adding depth to single vocal and choir is really cool too. It's all cool! More videos on these techniques would be greatly appreciated. It's a really good creative energy.
@budmaynard5952
@budmaynard5952 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the demo. I play a lot of acoustic guitar and you sold me on using stereo! Thanks. Peace from SF
@chandlerclement1365
@chandlerclement1365 Жыл бұрын
Love this! Super useful information and demonstration. Gonna have to get a room mic for my guitar setup.
@ChrisPanagopulos
@ChrisPanagopulos Жыл бұрын
It really completes the picture for the guitar sound compared to just the close mic on the amp.
@MattCiprianoMusic
@MattCiprianoMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. This is super helpful and such a simple fix to get a depth of sound that I have been trying to get out of one mic. When I heard the guitars that’s when the “Aha” moment happened! Gonna make this a standard in my studio. Thank again!
@dco_
@dco_ 4 ай бұрын
stereo pair on acoustic sounds night and day, as well as the electric. what that mic 10 ft out picks up from the room just adds that extra cloud underneath that the close mic sits so nicely on top of. really can tell the difference. nice vid!
@nathanfuchs1998
@nathanfuchs1998 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tip! I was getting a bit frustrated with things sounding kinda “flat” (probably from my own mistakes tbh), will have to give this a try. Thanks!
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Makes a big difference in the mix!
@sbenson76
@sbenson76 Жыл бұрын
That was excellent! Thank you!
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@SuperdangerStudios
@SuperdangerStudios Жыл бұрын
Wiiiide man! Man it sounds great on the guitars! How do you pan the mics for the electric guitars?
@laneysommer
@laneysommer Жыл бұрын
Great video! This video has a ton of excellent and useful information. Thanks!
@JiveProductions
@JiveProductions Жыл бұрын
Awesome! 🔥
@kevinlentz7604
@kevinlentz7604 Жыл бұрын
❤ love using Stereo mic’s,with roommics,great vids as usual
@adonistaxi2681
@adonistaxi2681 Жыл бұрын
The result is great !!! Thank you
@brokenskater84
@brokenskater84 Жыл бұрын
That d18 sounds soooo good
@ryancrawford9894
@ryancrawford9894 Жыл бұрын
The WA-14s are so good. I bought a pair last year and they’re my go-to overheads now. I finally get the cymbal brightness and attack I’ve been looking for without getting strident. Glad to see they’re offering matched pairs now, but the unmatched pair I have are close enough for jazz.
@arianamastersofficial
@arianamastersofficial Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! I do like the sound of the stereo.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Hey nice channel!
@arianamastersofficial
@arianamastersofficial Жыл бұрын
Thank you! lol @@AndrewMasters
@BlackenedNL
@BlackenedNL Жыл бұрын
I really like to use my Sphere L22 to capture as much as possible in stereo, its awesome! Thanks for the video
@WhosMarkx_x
@WhosMarkx_x Жыл бұрын
Love these studio vids!
@SonnyGreenwichJr
@SonnyGreenwichJr Жыл бұрын
Come on Andrew! Where'm I supposed to get the heaps of cash for all this gear?! haha! 🤣 🤣 🤣 You're right though, stereo all the way... Dang ☘💪🏽👀👍🏽☘
@SMOOTHFUNKYONE
@SMOOTHFUNKYONE Жыл бұрын
Your drum kit sounds amazing. I own a Warm audio WA 14. Use it on sax with a WA 12 mic pre. Love it!!
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DavidLee0227
@DavidLee0227 Жыл бұрын
Great content. Pushing to experiment in the studio is a good thing! 👍🏼
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@charleshale8504
@charleshale8504 Жыл бұрын
Mics sound great! Love all the stereo placements!
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@charleshale8504
@charleshale8504 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMasters Warm audio has had the WA14 out for a bit, outside of packaging them as a stereo pair is there anything new about these mics?
@Wolfbabypuppylove
@Wolfbabypuppylove Жыл бұрын
Andrew blinder of a video brilliant.
@bassface84
@bassface84 5 ай бұрын
WA-44 there hiding in plain sight, LOL. Warm is doing a bang up job with these products!
@f-unfairstudiotime
@f-unfairstudiotime Жыл бұрын
Nice video! 👍 A couple of things have to be said, though: -there are definitely instances in which mono/single mic-ing is beneficial, and depth can most certainly be achieved with it, too (panning, reverb, distance from source, etc) -today's music and productions have changed a lot since the tape era of/from which the great B.Swedien speaks, so in an often crowded and even overcrowded typical production of today, stereo mic-ing everything might not be a good idea -that stereo mic technique with 2 fig-8/bidirectional mics you use for your room mics is called BLUMLEIN - credit where it's due, it was invented by the genius of Alan Blumlein, practically the father of stereo, and also the inventor of the M/S mic technique. BTW for your room mics, try placing them lower, to avoid so much brightness & cymbals in them and capture more of the kick drum and under-toms sound, and, if you have someone play the drums and someone else move them just inches closer or further from that wall while you listen on headphones in another room, you'll find a position in which the boundary effect makes the low end content kinda multiply, giving your drum room a nice phatt boost right were you'll certainly like it. 😉 Cheers & Peace, AF
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
I must have been unclear in the video, but I certainly was not trying to make the point - only use stereo miking on everything always. My point here is I've gotten into a habit of doing some things one way. Bruce mentioning take some time and get a stereo placement on some sources to add depth, inspired me, and maybe it'd inspire you too. Of course Bruce knew that mono miking sources, distance and panning achieve depth as well lol. 30 seconds after he talks about stereo he mentions the same thing about mono, and how some things should absolutely be done in mono. Room mics down low is a fantastic move. I learned that one about 10 years ago from Doug Mckean. Another great way is baffling the kit and putting the room mics on the floor in omni on the opposite side of the baffle the drums are on, and hitting them with some compression.
@nickstojakovic112
@nickstojakovic112 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMasters personally I stereo track drums, then add mono drum samples which match the drum tracking or vibe of the recording to get a better umph than a classic "mono kick drum mic". I've found that being inside of the box for certain instances has been useful.
@nickstojakovic112
@nickstojakovic112 Жыл бұрын
and using that "mono kick drum mic" as a sample, instead going towards a synthesized kick drum sample for instance.
@nickstojakovic112
@nickstojakovic112 Жыл бұрын
@f-unfairstudiotime, makes no sense doing all that work, idk where you are going with that. There are plugins that give you M/S effect with only two buttons. lol.
@f-unfairstudiotime
@f-unfairstudiotime Жыл бұрын
@@nickstojakovic112 No, wasn't talking about M/S processing of a stereo track, or of simulating M/S stereo - I meant the actual M/S miking technique. That's inevitably done with 2 microphones (one in cardioid and one in fig-8 multed to 2 channels of which one with inverted polarity then blended in for width), not plugins. And that is what Alan Blumlein invented. As for "all that work"... ehhh, some of us love doing this work! 🤭😉
@kleinjohnson5734
@kleinjohnson5734 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I stumbled upon your channel a couple of weeks ago and have really been enjoying it. I am a bit of a "Warm Audio Geek", I love their stuff and have quite a bit of it in my home studio. I really like the depth that was captured using these techniques. Looks like I have some "testing" to do. Are you hard panning them in the mix?
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
The overheads yes but the acoustic and electric vary
@atomsofstardust
@atomsofstardust Жыл бұрын
It’s actually surprising how much difference this has made! Great video and thank you a lot for his cool tip!👏🏻
@aleksamrkela831
@aleksamrkela831 Жыл бұрын
It's a great tip, but not necessarily a rule. For example, I wouldn't discount double-tracking (two separate takes in mono) as a technique for achieving width, because in a dense mix, it can sound better than stereo miking, especially on guitar. :D But a stereo setup is beautiful for solos.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
True! I've always doubled everything and just stuck with it out of habbit. This just really solved my doubled electric guitars sitting in a mix recently - thought i'd share!
@sleonse
@sleonse Жыл бұрын
AWESOME!
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@siriusfun
@siriusfun Жыл бұрын
It depends on how busy or full the mix is. Mono mic placement is also often overlooked. "Distance equals depth." Jimmy Page/Eddie Kramer Don't be afraid to get those mics off the grill cloth. :)
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Also a great technique!
@lowandodor1150
@lowandodor1150 Жыл бұрын
I wish there would be a SWEETWATER Music store in my country......or a Vintage King, or both....what a dream it must be to be able to ACTUALLY LISTEN to all these amazing products plus a staff that actually knows their stuff!
@iosoundstudio
@iosoundstudio Жыл бұрын
Great video, my friend!
@TimCorpus
@TimCorpus Жыл бұрын
You may have mentioned this and I missed it, but what are you feeding the mics into (pre-amp, mixer, interface, etc)? What are the settings on the pre-amp?
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
I used my Trident Preamps overheads, AEA RPQ2 Preamps on room mics, and WA273 Preamps on acoustic.
@VelocityRecordingStudio
@VelocityRecordingStudio Жыл бұрын
I watched his videos like 3 weeks ago and is was like hmmm I should start doing this it seems like no one is….. then Andrew makes this! Lol he also talks about Omni ;)
@FrancisNewman-j5k
@FrancisNewman-j5k Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@Ted_Swayinghill
@Ted_Swayinghill Жыл бұрын
My name is Teddy and I have already been subscribed :D
@Yogeshbairaagi
@Yogeshbairaagi Жыл бұрын
really full fil sound
@gregjeanfreau8027
@gregjeanfreau8027 Жыл бұрын
Townsend (Now UA) Sphere modeling mic is amazing for this in my opinion.
@pablochavez7481
@pablochavez7481 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree that you should always record stereo. I think you should use mono or stereo depending on the arrangdment of the song and always do a conscious decision of why you're doing it. Many times mono acoustic sounds better in a busy track than stereo.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
haha yes, I don't think anyone's making the point that in every scenario you must use stereo. The point here as stated in the video repeatedly, is if you're like me, and you have a habit of only using a mono mic on something and you feel like it's lacking some depth or width - try some stereo techniques.
@jroz8111
@jroz8111 Жыл бұрын
Killer video Wow bruce was a real genius
@neoaureus
@neoaureus Жыл бұрын
Hi….I love the idea of a room mic plus close mic for guitar cab. How does one adjust for phase cancellations ? Any tips.?
@gregjeanfreau8027
@gregjeanfreau8027 Жыл бұрын
@Andrewmasters How do you like the SM7 on the hi hats?
@tunesbyjd
@tunesbyjd Жыл бұрын
I love this. I'm copying that electric guitar trick for now on, so thanks! Also, was that The Hype that I hear?👀
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Yes it was!
@tunesbyjd
@tunesbyjd Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMasters I knew it when I heard it! And, hey, do you remember what your whole chain was for the electric track?
@dustyrhoads66
@dustyrhoads66 Жыл бұрын
What was the Michael Jackson documentary called? I'd love to hear Bruce sweiden go into detail one of my favorite engineers of all time
@easternsouvenirs
@easternsouvenirs Жыл бұрын
Also wondering this
@alanschwartz4047
@alanschwartz4047 11 ай бұрын
Gol darn it, Andrew! Now I gotta get off my lazy butt & stick an 87 in my tiny room to go w the m160 I put in fronta my AC15! Thanks a LOT (sarcastically 😆) Seriously, though-thank you for this awesome video!
@yvesalbuquerque8355
@yvesalbuquerque8355 8 ай бұрын
Hi. I Wonder if I had to remove the rooms tracks so that it's in phase with rest of the mics or leave the decay between the mics...? Sorry about my english! I'm french...😬
@michaeltablet8577
@michaeltablet8577 Жыл бұрын
It really makes things sound like I'm in the room. Great video! Thank you so very much!
@nicksmart7742
@nicksmart7742 Жыл бұрын
In your gtr amp example, is there a minimum distance for the room mic in order to avoid potentially significant phase issues -ie would this work in a small recording space where it can only go back say 2-3 metres?
@iamtonisilvers
@iamtonisilvers Жыл бұрын
hey man that was great! but may I know how did you compensate or avoid with phas cancellation when tracing in stereo ?
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Hmm maybe I’ll do a video on this
@Strages_Powers
@Strages_Powers Жыл бұрын
common sense, excellent.
@edbarry1724
@edbarry1724 Жыл бұрын
Did you hard left and right ? Great episode 😎🤙
@zboy_hanna
@zboy_hanna Жыл бұрын
Man thought he was slick playing “The Hype” by twenty one pilots 👀
@epposh
@epposh Жыл бұрын
what kinda difference would it make on vocals or spoken word?
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
On a single vocal, you'll still want to rock a mono mic setup. On a choir or group of vocalists, stereo makes a huge difference.
@epposh
@epposh Жыл бұрын
thank you! @@AndrewMasters
@CraigAllenMusic
@CraigAllenMusic Жыл бұрын
I've been looking at the WA14 for awhile. It might finally be time to get the pair!
@TheMixClub
@TheMixClub Жыл бұрын
The Mics Sound great. Loved the guitar SP!!! I just added something different to the mix. I need to spend more time messing with placement. My Lazybone need to get with it... lol Be Safe
@peterellman9672
@peterellman9672 Жыл бұрын
DUDE
@manuelgasse
@manuelgasse Жыл бұрын
Your mic placement for the stereo set on guitar isn’t right. Mics are too close and pointing in the same direction causing phasing issues.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
It's a near coincident spaced pair. Phase is perfectly aligned.
@rydog920
@rydog920 Жыл бұрын
focals to barefoot, wtf speakers do i get
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Both great companies, the speaker model you pick really should depend on your room size and placement to you
@rydog920
@rydog920 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMasters i have a big room
@MichaelAChang
@MichaelAChang Жыл бұрын
That gets hard to do with busy compositions like this piece: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoO2ZoWpiLWmqdk
@AdventureswithJack453
@AdventureswithJack453 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day the consumer is listening to music on crappy ear buds from a crappy streaming service. Yes, stereo pairs sound better but the consumer doesn't care. This is also why ATMOS will ultimately fail to become the standard. The only people that really care about all of this are the equipment manufacturers that want to sell us more stuff.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
People use phones, so quality and production don't matter. Got it.
@AdventureswithJack453
@AdventureswithJack453 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMasters My point Andrew is that the consumer can't tell what microphone, preamp, compressor, EQ, or anything else that was used. All they care about is listening to a great song that elicits emotion. Don't believe me? If high quality recordings were really that important how is it that songs recorded 50 -60 years ago are still popular. They were recorded on crap equipment, but still they live on. Yes, we need quality production today but not at an extreme level. Our job as musicians is to elicit emotion with our songs. We can do that with average equipment. We do not need to mortgage our soul to buy SSL pre's, 1176s, or LA2As, or for that matter any of the other outrageously expensive equipment that is out there. What we need to do is to write great songs. That my friend is what the consumer wants. So prove me wrong. Record a song using all of your high dollar gear. Then record the same song using a couple of under $200 mics directly into a Focusrite interface. Mix this version only using plugins that came with your DAW. Now, go out on the street and play one version of the song to 20 people using a bluetooth speaker connected to your phone. Ask them what they thought of the song. Video their responses. Now do this again with the other version of the song. 20 different people. Again record their responses. I will bet that the responses will be similar.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
This is a video on recording techniques, on a studio channel that makes content on recording and production. It’s not for the consumer, or the songwriter, it’s for the audio engineer, the student, the people who are interested in learning and developing their skills who record the people who write the songs. Most people who are engineers and producers are aware the song is the most important part, yet we want our skills to be able to elevate the songs as much as possible at every level. Artists also want the production and engineering team to be the best, so their song has all the advantages. If you disagree then that’s fine. You’re welcome to keep coming back to the video and commenting :)
@AdventureswithJack453
@AdventureswithJack453 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMasters I understand what you are saying. BTW, I enjoy your channel and the information that you give out. All that I am saying is that to me we are doing a dis-service to the kid sitting in his bedroom trying to record his song and giving up because he can't afford the equipment that the pro studios have. You see Andrew, I was that kid many, many years ago. Recording musicians on a four track cassette. I couldn't afford pro gear and the people that I recorded couldn't afford to pay for that pro quality studio anyway. So, I gave up. In my head I put myself down because I didn't have the right equipment or the right room. Years later I found out that those recordings had quite a following. You see, the end listener didn't care that those tapes were not "Pro Quality" all that they cared about was the music. So keep doing what you're doing. I especially enjoy the studio tours. Just keep in mind that many people can't afford the high dollar equipment that you have. They are sitting in their bedroom trying to produce music with a demo copy of a DAW and some used instruments. Give those people some tips and tricks to.
@AndrewMasters
@AndrewMasters Жыл бұрын
Thanks. If not being able to afford high end gear when you were a kid made you give up, then you weren't that into it or there was something else going on. That's unfortunate you gave up for that reason. I know when I was a teenager I would do literally whatever I could to make it happen. I was literally obsessed and didn't care about anything else. I gave up all my friends and family and moved to the other side of the country with no support system for a chance to intern somewhere. It paid off, I got a job starting by cleaning toilets and stocking studio supplies then a year later worked my way up to a staff engineer and worked with clients like John Legend, Dawes, Jim James, Ghost, Weezer, Muse, Richie Sambora, Justin Timberlake, Jason Mraz. I got to learn from producers and engineers who had literally been doing it for 5-6 decades. Now I want to share some of what I learned. This content is for those people. A large amount of people who watch my videos are working professionals in studios. Some are semi-professionals who have other high paying careers and want to learn more about technique and gear so they have a better idea what they should get. Some are obsessed teenagers who just want to know how to make their recordings sound the way they want. At the end of the day - as the person who come up with the ideas, spends the money on the videos, and does all of the work, I make the video the way I think gives the most value and makes the best video. Never in a video have I said you can't get a great recording with out the gear I'm using. I use the gear that I like, and want to share it because I like it.
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