How the Viking Sagas Shaped Assassin's Creed Valhalla - History Podcast

[@InvictaHistory]

It was a true pleasure to be able to discuss history and game design at the same time! The discussion was an incredibly enlightening and entertaining one which will definitely enrich your understanding of the ancient Norse as you play Assassin's Creed Valhalla. Let me know what sorts of other quests and topics you'd like us to explore next!

[@jaypea30]

Evolution of the Roman Legions Part Two when?

[@grimfortress6420]

Fantastic that you got Dr. Crawford on the interview.

[@merryc.5466]

Well done! :)) As both a fan of A.C. games & historical linguistics, I am pleased this interview was not an amateur cringe fest, like most garbage on the internet. Tyvm :`)

[@kademarlowe1419]

I think Jackson knows something about the mysterious runes people keep finding. I've been watching everything about him trying to find any hints lol

[@matthewpollard257]

Omg Dr. Crawford was my professor last year for a Norse mythology class!! What a small world!

[@ikad5229]

As another History student, you are very lucky to have had him!

[@Jacob-fy9br]

You are so lucky you had him as professor. Damn.

[@grimfortress6420]

He is very knowledgable on the topics and a very sincere teacher.

[@user-gj1np9rp4d]

Do you know that he has a youtube channel?

[@mnels5214]

how was the class?

[@MrHazz111]

Dr. Crawford AND Darby McDevitt? This is Awesome.

[@InvictaHistory]

I could tell that in just this brief discussion they clearly had great chemistry together and gained a mutual respect for one another over the course of this project. Looking forwards to more of what they both achieve in their careers

[@MrHazz111]

It's fantastic that he was as involved in the project as he was, it's definitely made me look forward to the game more

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

I came here to say the same thing and I haven't even watched the video yet. Glad other people appreciate these awesome youtubers.

[@algutgeutschwin1511]

Madlads. It's really Jackson Crawford.

[@guitarmageddon3570]

I was very sceptical about this game's accuracy to "Vikings" given how much nonsense circulates media and general perceptions of them. So I was very happy once I found out Dr. Crawford was working with them, his knowledge on the subject is very impressive. A shame they didn't consult people for accuracy of clothing, weapons and armor. I really hope Ubisoft don't throw in their usual anti-consumer crap so I can justify buying this game.

[@MasonBryant]

This game is going to spit on historical accuracy. 100 years from now people will think this is how Vikings actually we're like. And for what? Real looking Vikings are way more badass.

[@LeviathanArts]

I liked Shadiversitys response to the trailer. Where’s the chain mail!?

[@porcin3proph3t4]

@@MasonBryant its a video game man. It does not need to be 100% accurate

[@chatonivre2662]

@@porcin3proph3t4 It doesn't, but still, games, films, series all stick in our idea of something. When 300 was out, everyone knew it was total bullshit, but know if you ask people in the street how they imagine spartans, they imagine them like they saw in 300, without knowing it, because the image was here in the corner of their minds.

[@levelling2]

@@chatonivre2662 I think the problem here is not that these entertainment products are inaccurate (which is whatever by me), but that they're the only exposure the average person has or will ever have to the subject matter. The discovery mode is a decent first step to addressing this imo.

[@boganery]

Dr Crawford!! Yes! The man is a legend.

[@krixig]

Its fantastic that Darby maintains an enthusiasm and respect for the material. AC does a tremendous job in "most" of its installments to breath life into history in a way that you'll never get in any other medium.

[@ISawABear]

I really think Ubisoft misses such good opportunities for history by NOT releasing the Discovery Mode for AC games first and sell it as a "preview" for the main game.

[@InvictaHistory]

I know I would love that but can understand how they want to come out axes blazing for a title like this. Discovery tour is definitely something I am looking forwards to after already poking my head around in game.

[@brxnv_]

i think it ruins most of the surprise factor tho

[@ISawABear]

@@brxnv_ i mean... Its history. The game previews tell you where and when its set so discovery wouldnt ruin more than basic knowledge or research would

[@brxnv_]

@@ISawABear Sure... it's not good for the majority of people. Me for example, i had no idea that we were going to visit Cyrene in AC Origins... an actual Roman city in Libya... seeing that in the game for the first time was amazing.. if i had Discovery Tour it would totally ruin the presentation.

[@ISawABear]

@@brxnv_ mmmm i mean alright i suppose that fair enough.

[@rachellenoir2072]

I am outrageously excited about this! Thank you to all who put dedication into this. You are all awesome. It blew my mind when my favorite Dr. told us that he’d be consulting on my favorite game!

[@FordyTheConeSmoker]

I would love to have a follow up podcast/interview with the both of them once the game has been out for awhile and they can delve more into why they chose certain aspects and whatnot

[@BIGPAPADILF]

Wow how awesome is this?! It’s been a wonderful experience to watch this channel grow over the years, keep it up Oakley!

[@k.t.1641]

Wish they made actual Vikings and not more “biker Vikings” with bare chests and no helmets, no shields etc. Its ridiculous that we can’t get an authentic period piece on such an intriguing subject. Then again I’m guessing most people would realize the actual brutality of these guys, and that it wasn’t all honor, abs, and makeup! These guys were raiders(to put it lightly) robbing from mostly defenses villages and churches. But what about the actual Scandinavians who weren’t Vikings, just farmers and stuff. No life of crime. I want to actually see them for once!

[@Othurin]

​@The505Guys Have you heard of caribbean pyrates? Italian mafiosos? cf. pirates of the caribbean, black sails. the godfather among other media.

[@Othurin]

@The505Guys No, in media which portrays the mafia they are both the protagonists and depicted as being cool. Besides, I feel your view of the vikings is excessively negative. It is anachronistic to impose modern viewpoints on how to conduct warfare to the 900s.

[@supremecaffeine2633]

@@Othurin Vikings were just as bad if not worse than pirates during the Golden age of Piracy. Having a negative view of them isn't odd.

[@anotherelvis]

Nitpick. We have found very few helmets from the viking age, so perhaps they weren't that common.

[@georgeptolemy7260]

Everybody loves ol Doc Norse

[@vitsavicky]

I love that you are talking videogames with Jackson Crawford while wearing a MCDM shirt... it's like my youtube subscriptions decided to have a party. :)

[@oslonorway547]

Not gonna lie, Darby McDevitt looks like he is INSIDE the game itself right now. 😁

[@Hoonter101]

What up Brother

[@thorgeist]

Darby, I will say you guys did a great job. I love the game.

[@anubhav7999]

Best video. I really love Derby and Dr Crawford is really cool I love him. And the game is really brilliant well-done

[@fisharepeopletoo9653]

Why is the algorithm not pushing this? I didn't even get a notification :/ great talk, I know a few people who would be interested in this, will be sharing.

[@Hoonter101]

It makes white people look good, it cannot be allowed

[@battleb0ng420]

i have that MCDM shirt but a sticker on my laptop. luv Strongholds and Followers

[@RadioTiberio]

This is awesome. History nerd here, so glad to see talented people like Darby and Jackson doing this!

[@shawnanderson3632]

ODIN IS WITH US

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

I love this

[@youtubecansukkadik]

Vikings are cool.

[@mysticnovelbro]

"How they shaped the game" Simple, they fucking didn't

[@hangonsnoop]

Invest in Malden!

[@AndherikaKubrick]

AC: V is Unity btw

[@foxhoundbridges4851]

what?

[@AndherikaKubrick]

@@foxhoundbridges4851 if you don't get it you don't get it

[@Blackwindzero]

Ubi have a habbit of making their games very American. Despite this talk, I aint holding my breath.

[@plciferpffer3048]

Who came up with the name Eivor?

[@InvictaHistory]

We talk about the name of the protagonist at 26:50

[@acidsamurai3876]

Spoiler alert,horse is sleipnir

[@anotherelvis]

Hengist and Horsa?

[@ValandisValley]

Hest in norse is Hestr or Hross. Sleipner is Odin's horse.

[@KpK1Cioby]

Did the sagas also tell them to make their game exclusive to Epic and Uplay? I wouldn't mind if they made it Uplay only. I am not one of the morons that hates every other launcher. BUT making it available on Epic and not on Steam is a big fuck off from me. Never gonna buy any of their games again I guess.

[@ARuiz-eu3hk]

Oh, so Ubisoft in infact do their homework after all. They just keep earning the right to fuck with history a bit because they are able to, properly!!!

[@Elizabeth-0]

Let me guess it’s the same cookie cutter game just like every Ubisoft game? Go talk to this person then go talk to this person go on a quest go back to this person.

[@gonzo1400]

The youtuber looks so awkward and shy. He doesn't look very confortable lol

[@kniter]

my favorite Cowboy, Crawford

[@Jim58223]

Eyyy You got Dr. Jackson Crawford.

[@drewhoke3399]

Genuinely was not something I expected from this channel, but perfectly fits. Good job securing this podcast, My Friend, and good job moderating it.

[@InvictaHistory]

Thanks it was a ton of fun to host and absorb all the information

[@patrickblanchette4337]

2:28 We also wouldn’t mind a game set in Feudal Japan with Ninjas😉.

[@gooniesneversaydie3699]

HELL YA, also what about a game where you play as a tribesmen in the Amazon jungle or something? Idk if you have seen the movie apocalypto but like that.

[@allengilbert7463]

@@gooniesneversaydie3699 The Vinland arc made me really interested in a pre-Columbian game, like in the Aztec Empire or similar. Would be difficult to get around though, horses aren't native to the Americas, and they didn't have anything similar for riding.

[@allengilbert7463]

@White lives Matter Horses evolved in the Americas, but died out about 8000 years ago. They were brought back here by Columbus and Cortes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_the_United_States

[@allengilbert7463]

@White lives Matter We don't have written records from 8000 years ago. So I can't say why they died out. And Wikipedia isn't my primary source, but it has been known for 500 years that there weren't any horses here before Columbus.

[@hagsmunamadurinn]

From Iceland. Was impressed that they brought on Jackson as a consultant. Hope most of the cringe got purged that way language wise. Still Eivor feels way to female to my modern Icelandic ear. It should be Eivar for a man and Eivör for a woman. At least have a an archaic ǫ instead of o in Eivor -> to make it Eivǫr and to not make it so gender ambiguous and feminine-sounding. Or is that maybe some hint of a plot twist? Eivor however strictly would be forever spring in icelandic.

[@Jacob-fy9br]

I appreciate this viewpoint. Thanks:)

[@ValandisValley]

Despite all the historical research and such, they still failed miserably at many things in the game, especially how the vikings look. As a Norwegian who loves viking history, I hope people take the historical parts of this game with a grain of salt. Their outfits, hairstyles, "tattoos" are all wrong. Vikings didn't look like that. Their boats are also wrong and look heavily inspired by the show Vikings. It's like a Hollywood glamor version of vikings, because vikings looked rather plain and didn't have fresh haircuts like that.

[@hectorpontos9038]

Looking forward to the podcast!

[@InvictaHistory]

It was truly an awesome, educational experience : )

[@Dunkle0steus]

Clicked when I saw Dr. Crawford's face

[@anotherelvis]

Same

[@Alexander-gq4lz]

"delivers the most authentic norse experience", not at all, in fact the historical accuracy is horrible.

[@ValandisValley]

Thank you

[@martinan22]

When I try to understand Old English i depend more on my modern Swedish than on my English.

[@NoName-yw1pt]

Funny enough Valhalla inspired me to watch people like dr Jackson. But I didn't know him and Darby were in the same place. That's awesome

[@hotsauce1646]

Now i know why this game is so great ! I loved ever second of playing it.

[@danevirke]

Why the fuck did you give the story to the Norwegians Vikings when they didn’t right it!

[@steakslapn9724]

Whoa, I was not expecting you to cover this game, Dr. Crawford. I'm getting ready to play it when it drops in a couple hours. Very cool to hear your input on the game. I love your work, your translation of the havamal is something I pick up and read from atleast once a week.

[@steakslapn9724]

Get ready for the flood to your channel, Dr. Week or so after this game drops, your YT channel is going to be flooded by newly awoken Viking fans lol.

[@Fastwinstondoom]

Excellent podcast, loved it!

[@full_bearfull_bear4783]

I will never forget how bad he was at remembering that story.

[@ALLHEART_]

MCDM shirt. Too many worlds colliding for me here. It's too much.

[@InvictaHistory]

I'm in talks with Matt for an upcoming collab

[@ALLHEART_]

@@InvictaHistory Interesting. Looking forward to it. Good luck.

[@niros9667]

This was fantastic, you guys keep doing such an amazing job.

[@eliteviktor3]

OG sub from pre 2010 era. Congrats for comming so far.

[@emilbecker8970]

howdy doc

[@chadmensa]

I'm so glad to see the rapport that these guys have developed! I'd investigate(at least) anything that Jackson was involved with, but I feared that his knowledge would be stripped down and simply "mined" for a big project like this. I no longer have that concern, and shall approach this game as a long awaited X-Mas present.

[@loukes116]

God I love this channel. Wanted to listen to something while cooking my steak and boom, Invicta always has something.

[@8mmkyle865]

Some say Avengers Endgame was the ultimate crossover... this video begs to differ.

[@theydisintegrate]

Wish this video happened months ago lol... How am I supposed to read all those books in 3 days?!

[@gold333]

I think this game is one of Darby's stinkers. AC Valhalla narrative is of very poor quality compared to other Assassin's Creed games. We’ve played every AC since 2007. These games not only have a story arc but they have both macro and micro “emotional rollercoasters”. A macro being, for example getting revenge on someone you lost at some point. While not the point of the whole story arc, that example can be one milestone in an overall story. Then there are micro rollercoasters, spaced anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes apart. Think of something like a moment of reflection after a moment of adrenaline, or a moment of creative slow paced sightseeing reward after a period of heavy player interaction/input. These are all planned and scripted. In this game the micro rollercoasters are incongruent and immersion breaking to the point of being destructive to the narrative. Eivor is scripted to truly care about the wellbeing of Ceolbert or is scripted to help a friend find a traitor, and in the next scene is scripted to burn down the house, loot and kill the lifestock of a priest who is sitting in a chair, in a sadistic display. Or is scripted to burn down houses of terrified civilians proclaiming his love for the smell of burning homes, or is scripted to slice the throat of a man who stands unthreatening in front of him confessing his faith. Or is scripted to give a beating to a harmless, introverted and reluctant grandfather in front of his grandchildren who are very proud of him. Sadism of quite sickening proportions leaving aside the complete lack of honor or virtue. Even though I am not religious, moments like has players throw up their hands and say “WHAT”? The scripted narrative is so far detached from the automatic emotional response that people simply disconnect with the protagonist they are meant to be imbuing. Again, it’s not that he is evil. There is an audience for sadistic games or games where you play a sociopath and rape and murder. It’s the incongruence. Players WANT to identify with the protagonist (since the beginning of this franchise) but the narrative disconnect through moral incongruence instantly snaps players out of it. The deep and heroic Viking music that starts playing as you complete your "burned homes" count. You stand in a village with burning houses as women and children run away from you screaming. You are meant to feel a rush of adrenaline and powerful at having terrorized these people. The deep voiced Viking music is meant to get your adrenaline pumping. But it doesn't work. It's too transparent. The players initial reaction is: "right, try again... I am not 12." Even a 12 year old child wouldn't go "yeah cool. I am powerful, run from me scared people." In fact the overriding emotion is a push back against the publisher of the game for ascribing the player with such little fortitude, honor or magnificence. For making the scripted emotional response so meek and the 4th wall so transparent. Going deeper, the only “color” given to these displayed acts of sadism in contrast to the deontological modern morality displayed by Eivor in some scenes is that they are predominantly against characters displayed as being religious or believing in god. A priest calmly acknowledging his belief in god is the focus of a humorous joke mission that mocks him or kills him in a funny way, or women running from a burning home shouting “my god, help me” are seen to be “ok” targets to terrorize. But it’s too on the nose, too overt in its adherence to the current real world zeitgeist of (any) religious belief(s) being evil and that people who proclaim a belief are ok to be mocked. Again, I am not a christian, or religious, but the overtness of this agenda, in addition to the incongruence and forced identification with petty sadism is jarring and instantly immersion breaking. Replacing immersion with repulsion. The game has you kill people who are out for vengeance on you. The game has you kill people who WERE YOU in prior AC games. In Valhalla you are the executioner pulling the lever in Piazza Della Signoria and hanging the auditore family infront of Ezio’s eyes. Causing him to shout: “You have not killed all the Auditore, I AM still here“ and start his revenge quest. Playing Valhalla, I’m starting to root for the innocent people I’m killing, and hoping one is strong enough to take Eivor out and kill him and his honorless raiders once and for all. No other AC games (even Rogue and Black Flag) had me (even close to) thinking that. It’s like Darby just thought people wouldn’t notice. It’s the incongruity that is worse of all. Why showcase Eivor to be so heroic and honorable, why not just make him appear as a weasel like Ivarr from the outset so it’s congruent.

[@andwhat]

The crossover I’ve awaited

[@PuuberZ]

Read Vinland Saga.

[@ClydeC]

*_Odin is with us_*

[@georgeptolemy7260]

Invicta was a little too attached to his paymaster and not the expert with a PhD.

[@libbyhultman5387]

I feel like they should have gave the man whos a professor in Scandinavian history/studies and also just an expert of the Old Norse and "viking" culture in general; just a little more time to talk. But I mean...what do I know?

[@grimfortress6420]

You are 100% accurate and very very right.

[@codyc7477]

I was on the fence but this convinced me to buy it. Even went for the digital gold edition

[@krakenhawkstratdude204]

The opening scene set the tone. It’s sets up the story that I feel is far and away more engaging then Odyssey.

[@trezo9795]

MCDM T-shirt!😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@didinx8417]

"Odin...Odin....send der vind and turn de tide..."

[@TheFren]

15 years ago they told me "don't study humanities, you'll just end up driving taxis" Oh, how the times have changed!

[@europeanpatriot8031]

It really annoys me that Ubisoft used BCE and not AD. Creative Assembly did it with Total War: Three Kingdoms, and it didn't annoy me that much at all. China never became and still isn't a Christian nation. But, in Assassin's Creed Valhala, most of Scandinavia is going to be Christian within 200 years.

[@Fastwinstondoom]

You must be the only person in the entire world that cares about this particular thing.

[@europeanpatriot8031]

@@Fastwinstondoom That's because you do not associate with many people who dares to challenge the status quo, or stay in communities with people who think differently from you.

[@porcin3proph3t4]

@@europeanpatriot8031 no, its more of it not actually being that important

[@europeanpatriot8031]

@@porcin3proph3t4 It isn't important to the game itself, but the SJW mindset that drove the decision, is. Its basically anything that Ubisoft makes these days, have a clear left-wing agenda. Also the amount of playable women warrior Norsemen (vikings, as they are unhistorically being called) are, just like the viking name, unhistorical. And it is all because of their left-wing agenda. It's distracting. They can only keep doing this, because people, even those who are critical, becomes docile when "gaming" news outlets keeps praising the progressive shit, and that in turn encourage Ubisoft to make more woke shit. And the more of something is fed to someone, the more people simply accept it. And that's social control 101: Consistency

[@porcin3proph3t4]

@@europeanpatriot8031 .... soooo using BCE for a game about the perspective of a group that wasn't Christian/catholic, is SJW. Why? The use of BCE, or more specifically, the shift towards BCE in various historical contexts has been going on since the 1980s. BC and AD make sense when your depiction of time revolves around the religious idea of christ. If it doesnt, BCE is perfectly acceptable to use and in many cases, it better to use. This isnt an SJW issue, seems your just sad not everything has to have christ involved (you know that religion hasnt always existed right)

[@derialnmau]

I don't understand how they want to be grounded feeding us with crap like the peaces of Eden, isu, and so on. I hate modern day in AC. Simply take it away or make it optional.

[@nirabhradas6375]

Hi @Invicta, I'm putting this comment here so there's more chance for you to see. Could you do a video on Caligula please? I love your content And there's so much to learn from your videos.

[@martinan22]

Wow! Really impressive! Never saw mainstream culture that takes the poetry seriously. Sounds like super interesting game! Much respect!

[@knightgold1000]

I hope the patch correcting the big bug of the Volka will be online soon!

[@JuanCanuck]

Thanks for the informative video, can’t wait to raid & conquer those paltry Saxons

[@MisterCynic18]

I've been burnt out on norse inspired media but I gotta say this has got me reinterested

[@SergioapjChannel]

Can't wait for part 2 of this podcast

[@misti-step]

it fine if ur tired of the games! but tbh i just wanna be a buff viking lady who kills dudes, and learn abt some history along the way ❤ (i dont get all my history info from video games lol, but its a fun addition!)

[@stevenpaddybwoy]

Why don’t you want to be a mother? Instead of desperately trying to imitate men?

[@thatbrohh2366]

I trust Darby to make a historically accurate and engaging story that will make the game worth playing!

[@Dokterrampstein]

That guy on minute 15 is a old colleage of mine. funny

[@truenorthaffirmations7049]

Right on...shaping history!!!

[@bettermanchannel770]

Yes sir

[@Ζήνων-ζ1ι]

Oh yes, Skyrim: Vaguely Norse edition.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

As if Skyrim had any tie.

[@Regular-Sized]

So are they gonna finish the story or nah?

[@jacksmith4530]

Damn

[@Dainon86]

Love it

[@CaspertheSarcasticGhost]

How did they merge history with video games? They didn't...

[@InvictaHistory]

I'd say the answer is clearly a lot more nuanced than that and a lot of work definitely did go into porting over the historical material as is evidenced by this podcast. Let me know what you think by the end of it.

[@brxnv_]

?

[@kyleunderhill9126]

I personally dislike the company Ubisoft, but the addition of the mode that is just history and scenery disproves your comment

[@MrVvulf]

Even if you don't believe they manage to merge any real history with the game...you shouldn't discount the interest in the history of the period that can be piqued by games. I know a lot of people become interested in real history from exposure to mythology or games. Speaking for myself, I know after playing Ubisoft's "Odyssey" I ordered the book "Anabasis" by Xenophon. During my time playing "Origins" I usually had a page open in my browser which I would use for gathering more context or to explore historic figures, locations, events, and culture which I came across in the game. In past few months leading up to now, I've reread Beowulf, Jackson Crawford's translation of the Poetic Edda, Egil's Saga, and watched countless videos about archaeological discoveries of the past 100 years or so, like Sutton Hoo, and the Gjellestad Viking ship grave which began excavation recently.

[@CaspertheSarcasticGhost]

@@MrVvulf to be fair the first couple assassin's creed games helped me with my interest in history. However It's been getting further and further away from history the longer it goes. This game is as bout as historical as for honor was, fun to look at and possibly play but not very historical.

[@abdullahshah9397]

Thanx invicta for the podcast. I'm actually pretty hyped to get the game now.

[@liamimbriolo6066]

Many people have Assassins Creed fatigue. I'll only ever buy another one on special. They are beautiful and the settings are amazing and the combat and stealth were fun, but the trajectory of the story has stagnated. The games should be going further back with the last games being set during the Age of the Isu, but now it's just an excuse to have exotic settings. Also, even for the great games in the series, Ubisoft has never devoted themselves to Historical Authenticity and will instead fuse it with politically correct garbage at the cost of said historical authenticity in favour of their narratives. It could be great, but it won't, Ubisoft are more concerned with mass producing mediocre products frequently, instead of truly amazing games on a less regular basis. I won't hold my breath, and neither should any of you.

[@liamimbriolo6066]

@The505Guys i dont blame you, there record is really spotty with a few hidden gems

[@Regular-Sized]

@The505Guys Black Flag is pretty good. IIRC, that was also the last time the overarching story actually progressed too.

[@BobbyHill26]

@@Regular-Sized Black Flags was the last one I played and from a gameplay aspect it was great, but I wasn’t impressed by the story at all. I still don’t understand why they felt the need to kill Desmond in whichever game that was, it felt super unnecessary and kind of killed the story in my eyes. The only reason I could see for doing it would be so they could more easily justify jumping around to a ton of different historical settings without needing to find a way to tie in to the main story. I think a ton of people would be way more interested in the games if Ubisoft kept going with the same theme of great gameplay in interesting settings, but just dropped the AC name and came up with some unique stories and characters that fit into the setting. That would mean they have to put in a ton more work and lose one of the biggest video game franchises ever though. It would cost a lot now, but I am sure it would pay off in the long run.

[@Regular-Sized]

@@BobbyHill26 I think that was exactly the reason they did it: to be able to jump all over the place. Although, I think there was already precedent for the scheme being bigger than Desmond and his lineage. In ACII, when you escape, you go through a maze of different animus machines. Abstergo wouldn’t need that many if they were only interested in Desmond. Of course, they didn’t really do much to flesh that out after BF, which was the annoying part for me. I’ll play along if you wanna kill Desmond and have that be his purpose, but if you bring in the idea that anyone can interact with any DNA, then you’ve gotta do a better job of explaining it and justifying it. Idk. I just want it done at this point. They could’ve used Vikings/Egypt/Greece for a new RPG IP and nobody would’ve cared that it’s similar to OG assassin’s creed. I mean it worked with Watch Dogs.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

You don't have to play a game that you don't like. Odyssey is amazing, the work that went into it is nothing short of great. I appreciate the shift to a historic RPG much more than focusing on an Assassin Order that doesn't make any sense.

[@eduardoesteban9823]

It's a beautiful game. If you love viking history, you will love the game. However, ubisoft always use their games to push their agenda. I'm tired of female warriors everywhere in the game, dude, WTF?

[@Hoonter101]

Bunch of soy freaks over at Ubi

[@ValandisValley]

As someone who love viking history, I hate this game. They sound nice here in this interview/talk, but within the game it's pretty bad. It looks like they just watched Vikings and called it a day.