How The Worgen Took Back Gilneas [Warcraft Lore]

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Nobbel87

Nobbel87

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@zimti7390
@zimti7390 8 ай бұрын
The Scarlet Crusade is now the Team Rocket of Azeroth
@AbigatorM
@AbigatorM 4 ай бұрын
they always were xD
@pyroslev
@pyroslev 8 ай бұрын
I gave up the game years ago, retired my Worgen Hunter to the Hunter's Lodge but always wanted to reclaim Gilneas. Nice to know it happened.
@baileygregg6567
@baileygregg6567 8 ай бұрын
My Night Elf Hunter turned Orc after BC did the same but after they took my Dark Lady it just was not the same game. It was worse than when green Jesus (Nu-Thrall) went to “find himself” in Cataclysm… As a main PvPer I couldn’t just keep gearing and repeating… too many friends left long before even great raiders from Frozen Throne days💀❄️
@StormAngelWolf
@StormAngelWolf 8 ай бұрын
A very lack luster return. The very heart of the defenders of GILNEAS Liam Greymane was neglected as was the great story of GILNEAS. This only means the creative mind behind GILNEAS left blizzard 14 years ago. The apologitic pathetic plot that sounds like a Democrats packaged lies continue from shadowlands. Such disrespectful attitude towards the plight of the worgen and night elves continues. But never have I seen worse neglect like that towards Gilnean worgen. At least the pressure yielded a reaction to remedy things though so pathetically reluctant.
@StormAngelWolf
@StormAngelWolf 8 ай бұрын
Know this blizzard. We never surrender. We will go for the throat always. This will never end unless you make proper amends.
@jamesgames4142
@jamesgames4142 8 ай бұрын
@@StormAngelWolf”sound like a democrats packaged lies”. Bro, you need to go and sit in a dark room for a bit and chill out. It ain’t that deep.
@StormAngelWolf
@StormAngelWolf 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesgames4142 👌🏽🤣👍🏽 it's just that I was expecting more than utter neglect. They threw us a bone n let us run with it. I was expecting a true visceral fight Dan gummit. Dungeon raid dude something pretty challenging. And was expecting to get to beating up old enemies with grudges not the templars kkk moonshine drunk cousins wow version.
@maniek2207
@maniek2207 8 ай бұрын
I expected a longer and more epic story from "Reclaim a City"
@ianardell4660
@ianardell4660 2 ай бұрын
Kinda doesn’t work when the two people who fought over the city are now on the same side.
@pkWreck
@pkWreck 8 ай бұрын
Listen, all I'm saying is that voice acting on Lord Darius Crowley is fucking phenomenal
@RealJuiceWrld
@RealJuiceWrld 8 ай бұрын
That’s called being a lifelong smoker
@AngelusAngel1100
@AngelusAngel1100 8 ай бұрын
I was pissed when they didn't even mention Lorna and Darius! They were both pivotal roles within the starting zone, Lorna especially!
@Keyblader001
@Keyblader001 8 ай бұрын
That entire cinematic just felt like they were setting up Genn's death. The entire time watching it, I just kept thinking "yea this dude is dying soon." Was like in a movie where a soldier is talking about "when I get home to my lady, I'm gonna love her right, and start a family" and then he dies in the next scene.
@willythemailboy2
@willythemailboy2 8 ай бұрын
Probably, but while watching it I wondered when Thrall was going to show up and tell him that time, by itself, heals nothing.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
"they were setting up Genn's death." Due to old age or...?
@Ankhtowe
@Ankhtowe 8 ай бұрын
@@georgedevries3992 Offered up as a heathen sacrifice to the depraved religion consuming Blizzard, and many other companies, from the inside out.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
@@Ankhtowe Yeah... I figured as much. Hope my new home of fantasy will remain safe.
@Ankhtowe
@Ankhtowe 8 ай бұрын
@@georgedevries3992 I wouldn't count on it. GW is positively infested with cultists. The new Lords of the Lance novel starts off with a girlboss that's beloved by everyone mouthing off to the lord of the castle about how to run things and effortlessly defeating hordes of undead by herself before rushing off to save her useless idiot incompetent brother, and that's just barely touching the surface of intense of a propaganda piece it is, including none-too-subtle "Europe was never White" cult sermons.
@NiinaBlue
@NiinaBlue 8 ай бұрын
Only thing I was disappointed for was how short the quest line was. I mean.. I also have to ask.. we waited for.. this? I mean I wasn't surprised that Genn prolly wants to help Andyin now since he is coming back and he has to leave Gilneas for someone to rule over. But.. seriously? Waaay too short. Way too anticlimactic. After worgens was introduced, I became worgen main for life and I was so ready to claim our home back.. so uh, glad we did but.. seriously? Bunch of Scarlet squishies grave robbing? Comoon.. !!
@thenerdbeast7375
@thenerdbeast7375 8 ай бұрын
Personally I think Ivar and the Bloodfangs having claimed Gilneas as their territory would have been better antagonists for the reclaiming of Gilneas.
@CloudianMH
@CloudianMH 8 ай бұрын
It was absolutely garbage.
@NiinaBlue
@NiinaBlue 8 ай бұрын
@@thenerdbeast7375 Yea, I've read your comment about that. Also to me those Scarlets just felt far fetched. Like the hell they're doing there? That land never belonged to them so there's nothing to "reclaim" for them. Just greedy little grave robbers.
@wskylar21
@wskylar21 8 ай бұрын
Nobbel made a video longer than what the actual questline took xD
@Alligator1107
@Alligator1107 7 ай бұрын
Wait the questline was under 22 minutes huh usually the questline takes a hour or half a hour my subscription for world of Warcraft is out
@Wellshem
@Wellshem 4 ай бұрын
only for player rushing through it, not reading or listening to anything
@luisjosp5
@luisjosp5 8 ай бұрын
Another Scarlet Crusade defeat to the list...
@RealJuiceWrld
@RealJuiceWrld 8 ай бұрын
But they’re actually a HUGE organization that is growing!! Even though blizzard doesn’t show that at all in game!!!
@seawind930
@seawind930 8 ай бұрын
@@RealJuiceWrld Yeah! just like the Troll empires.... that became fodder for the player characters. Nope the crusade is just another fodder faction for people to crush. They might as well be Bandits that wear red, and don't sight lore because Blizzard puts gameplay before Lore
@maelictyrsune
@maelictyrsune 8 ай бұрын
It is because of the Midnight expansion and their link to the New Avaloren.
@mokarokas-1727
@mokarokas-1727 8 ай бұрын
@@maelictyrsune - What is? How does it relate? What are you talking about?
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 8 ай бұрын
How does blizzard expect anyone to take the scarlet crusade seriously when all thry carry are Ls?
@thomasleonardis711
@thomasleonardis711 7 ай бұрын
Yeah. Ever since the Death Knights sacked the Scarlet Enclave it has been pretty downhill for them. 😅 But on the other hand they keep popping back up. So they clearly have SOME victories off screen. I mean they retook Gilneas before we did. And I bet it was more fun then this.
@BasedHorrigan
@BasedHorrigan 3 ай бұрын
@@thomasleonardis711 This has some truth to it. They literally took Gilneas *before* the Gilneans. The only reason Greymane found out is because Tess met with Calia & Co. due to the fact the Forsaken were DRIVEN OUT by the Crusade. So the Forsaken are actually using the Gilneans to get rid of the Scarlets, and they wave the carrot that is Gilneas to accomplish this goal.
@Xenowarrior92
@Xenowarrior92 8 ай бұрын
"Reclaim" is a big word...
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 8 ай бұрын
They're clearly putting too much on genn. He wanted out of the alliance because he didn't agree with the alliance even managed to put a negeglectful father spin on his relationship with tess when she barely had any screentime to begin with.
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 8 ай бұрын
She was introduced in Legion, and barely had 2 questlines about her. They love this kind of plot device, the leverage is the sense of guilt. Just like Bolvar Fordragon and his "neglected" daugter.
@KogaSagara
@KogaSagara 8 ай бұрын
such a warm fuzzy feel coming back to the place were totalbiscuit conviced me to play officially wow back in cata alpha, i got mix feeling with how weak genn was showed and why from nothing he gave the keys of the kingdom to a rouge (yes her daughter but she is a rouge for over a decade) with shaddy conections, that should have be a great story of her gainging the throne after gilneans rebuild at least a bit the nation, looking foward to see what will happen wwith the lands of crowley bc that shoudl be gilnean lands too(shadowfang keep revamp?). Another missing thing its Halford Ramsey, not a single mention of him or alpha prime or even the wolf cult (deleted from canon?) Ill will be always first a gilnean rather than alliance adventurer. FOR GILNEAS! PS: such a nice view a painting of a woman and not a bowl of fruits! (and the creepy child paint that blinks is still here, nice)
@maelictyrsune
@maelictyrsune 8 ай бұрын
She is the heir and no one else. Such like in real life it is not always the person that might seem to be fit for the throne.
@Desolaytore
@Desolaytore 8 ай бұрын
This should have happened during BFA, would have made better sense and a better enemy.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman 8 ай бұрын
I'm truly disappointed that blizz didn't involve the night elves. I mean, they literally were the only ones that helped Gilneans escape the Forsaken and even gave them refuge in Teldrassil. I'm sure Genn would have kindly asked who was left to help and give the night elves a refuge if the sought one. It would only be fair. But what do I know? Blizz isn't exactly stellar at storytelling. I mean, how fucking long has Gnomregan been lost to the gnomes?
@LordFakeGodz
@LordFakeGodz 8 ай бұрын
They're kinda busy with their own home atm, and i am sure some of the Night Elf is part of the "adventurer" and "alliance soldiers". It is more fitting for the Forsaken to have more prominent role here. The Night Elves leaders got their deserved rest in Bel'ameth, i would assume busy managing their own people to life there properly. Considering how little to no threat the scarlet crusaders are, no reason to involve the known npc there
@DarimWoW
@DarimWoW 8 ай бұрын
11:54 i mean, there was quite a lot there. was there not?
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL 8 ай бұрын
@@LordFakeGodz It's not more fitting for the former invaders who promised to leave to have a more prominent role here than the elves that initially evacuated the people of Gilneas, and to whom Genn, against Anduin's wishes, sent his forces to support the retaking of Darkshore. That's an absurdly stupid take.
@partyontheobjective
@partyontheobjective 8 ай бұрын
10:40 🎵 Secret tunnel! Secret tunnel! Through the mountain! Secret secret secret secret tunnel! yeah! 🎶
@keonihaines8304
@keonihaines8304 8 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing when doing the quest line. 😂
@Evolixe
@Evolixe 8 ай бұрын
Have to agree with a lot ot the comments down here that mention the actual storytelling/questline in the game being lackluster at best. A few quick quests slapped together to tell a story as quickly and effeciently as possible If they keep doing these this way people will never get invested
@donjezza10
@donjezza10 8 ай бұрын
It's almost as if they had no plans for any of the characters' storylines beyond just going after Sylvanas. Who needs drama and inner conflict, anyway.
@maelictyrsune
@maelictyrsune 8 ай бұрын
I got invested with the kaldorei heritage quest, I did with this one. It is just people like you complaining and ruining the experience for others.
@maelictyrsune
@maelictyrsune 8 ай бұрын
@@donjezza10 this storyline is well thought actually. Just because you don't see the Midnight expansion set up it doesn't mean it is not well prepared.
@burnttoast26
@burnttoast26 8 ай бұрын
@@maelictyrsune"How dare you dislike bad writing that I like!"
@donjezza10
@donjezza10 8 ай бұрын
@@maelictyrsune Buddy, you really should save yourself some embarrassment and just delete your comments while you still can.
@missfortune9269
@missfortune9269 8 ай бұрын
Also 3 NPCs in Hayward Fishery (Hayward family, 2 dead).
@nickghua9252
@nickghua9252 8 ай бұрын
Even if I have not played retail for several years, it is allways a comfort knowing im able to tune in here in order to catch up on my favorite characters ❤
@highlordlaughterofcanada8685
@highlordlaughterofcanada8685 8 ай бұрын
So continues Blizzard's obsession with "out with the old". Just because Dragonflight is better than Shadowlands, doesn't nean its good. I'm noticing a trend with Blizzard, each expansion starts off strong and gets gradually more boring and shitty as the patches role out.
@itsdannyhoney
@itsdannyhoney 8 ай бұрын
the fact that this video is longer than the actual gameplay speaks volumes...
@kecke93
@kecke93 8 ай бұрын
huh? the scarlet crusade still exist? it feels like we're just bullying them now....
@abyssalserpent3679
@abyssalserpent3679 8 ай бұрын
I haven't brushed up on his lore for a while, but another interesting idea could've been for Godfrey to have faked his death after Shadowfang Keep, and built up his forces to take Gilneas for himself once the time is right.
@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 8 ай бұрын
Honestly Retcon or not It would be 10000x better Could even put a crazy spin and make Godfrey a forsaken worgen, turning him into the three things he hates the most all at once Worgen Forsaken Traitor
@robertbrown3054
@robertbrown3054 8 ай бұрын
Undead wiped gilneas. Wiped teldrassil. And are now like nah heres your land back please forgive us. I cant
@jabbiter3575
@jabbiter3575 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, the entire Desolate council, especially Calia and Lillian, make it very believable for me. They're good people who have seen past the genocidal vindication of their old Banshee Queen.
@PiEiNtHeFaCe22
@PiEiNtHeFaCe22 8 ай бұрын
Build it up like the night elves new home. Then be forgotten like silvermoon as no one will go out of their way to visit unless forced too xD
@FrVle
@FrVle 8 ай бұрын
The Scarlet Crusade are the Team Rocket of Azeroth
@snappycenter7863
@snappycenter7863 8 ай бұрын
Worse. Team Rocket has the excuse that writers can't kill them off cos the franchise needs to be kid-friendly. But WoW doesn't have that excuse.
@CloudianMH
@CloudianMH 8 ай бұрын
I literally laughed at how shit this was in game. Fr. I WAS GOBSMACKED. it took about as long as the shit attempt at emotional family drama cutscene they put in at the end of the quest. Everything wrong with current blizzard showcased in the retaking of gilnaes. It was a joke that they even made a point of mentioning it.
@JaxKangaroo
@JaxKangaroo 8 ай бұрын
I was dissapointed by this quest, really short, lackluster antagonist and they didnt even revamp the zone at all or add anything into it except one street of npc traders. Genn also in my opinion acted totally out of character for most of it. Him handing the kingdom over to Tess after finally getting it back made me think of that toy story meme "i don't wanna play with you anymore".
@Murphio25
@Murphio25 8 ай бұрын
While it is a shame that more wasn't added to Gilneas and I agree with the villain they chose, I think the sentiment is nice at the very least. Maybe the devs simply wanted to move past it, and make it a done deal before moving on to other things, hopefully they will consider touching up some of the older zones again, which I think there's some hope for, with the Blood elf expansion on the horizon beyond the War within.
@cthulwho9125
@cthulwho9125 8 ай бұрын
I agree fully that it was too short and the Scarlets were kinda boring. Big disagree about the rest, especially Genn. I also imagine that Gilneas will be remade properly sometime around the start of the next expansion and added as a new capital.
@JaxKangaroo
@JaxKangaroo 8 ай бұрын
@@cthulwho9125 maybe in the midnight expansion when they revamp quel’thalas it will extend down to gilneas
@CsStoker
@CsStoker 8 ай бұрын
I know, it was just an excuse to add more female leaders into the game
@user-sy7cm9qi1u
@user-sy7cm9qi1u 8 ай бұрын
I wonder where the scarlet crusade keeps coming from.
@ursusmuricanus5765
@ursusmuricanus5765 8 ай бұрын
Blizz hates wow. First they burn down teldrassil and make the night elves story about vengeance on the horde. But then they go my little pony friendship is magic and make their new home cofaction because night elves suddenly want peace. Then they fuck the entire story of the worgen and make it so that not only can they not take gilneas back alone, but they need help from the fucking forsaken of all people, Genn doesn't even lead the assault and he relinquished his kingship to his nobody daughter only to make gilneas fucking cofaction. I really wanted to come back when Chris Metzen returned, I hoped he'd make it good again, but it's just as dog shit as it was before.
@TheMagicDrPancakez
@TheMagicDrPancakez 8 ай бұрын
Wait why the hell are the forsaken using the plague again???
@Vandel96
@Vandel96 8 ай бұрын
Was in cata
@snappycenter7863
@snappycenter7863 8 ай бұрын
Bad writing.
@ObsidianHawk
@ObsidianHawk 8 ай бұрын
You know what annoys me about all of these? During Legion if you were a rogue you worked with Tess and Lillian. Why couldn't blizz put in some special dialogue for the rogues? It's like what sword? But, instead what order hall?
@Spidahman4283
@Spidahman4283 8 ай бұрын
Thank you again for another great vid Nobbel. I am getting ready to finish this.
@54032Zepol
@54032Zepol 8 ай бұрын
Do the people from Drustvar in Kul'Tiras have any ties with the city of Gilneas? They have some paralell themes going on.
@bakuryukenji3802
@bakuryukenji3802 8 ай бұрын
Kul Tirians are ex Gilneas people, that goes to the sea and found the Island
@54032Zepol
@54032Zepol 8 ай бұрын
@@bakuryukenji3802 oohhh ok cool beans😎🫘
@stormstrider1990
@stormstrider1990 8 ай бұрын
This quest was shorter than expected, but by no means bad. I really liked Genn's conversation with Tess near the end. What I've always found interesting about the control of Gilneas is it's been inconsistent from the start. The Worgen starting experience ends with the Forsaken in control. During the Forsaken leveling in Silverpine Forest, there's a brief quest where you visit Gilneas, pick up the bodies of Lord Godfrey, Lord Walden, and Baron Ashbury, and leave. During that quest, we see the 7th Legion occupy the capital. Gilneas also becomes a PvP battleground. In the rogue legendary quest chain, the city is occupied by bandits led by a black dragon, one of Wrathion's targets. After that, Gilneas' state was mostly unknown, although Exploring the Eastern Kingdoms claimed it was under the Bloodfang Pack's control. At the end of Shadowlands, if you play the cleansing of Lordaeron quest as an Alliance character, Calia sends the player back to Genn with message stating she'll pull back the Forsaken from Gilneas. In this quest, the Scarlet Crusade is there, before it's finally reclaimed by Greymane. So Gilneas has been occupied by the Forsaken, the 7th Legion, bandits, the Bloodfangs, the Forsaken again, the Scarlets, until finally, it's back in Gilnean hands.
@2ndCthulhu
@2ndCthulhu 8 ай бұрын
The sad passages are performed so incredibly well by the VA - But outside of that, they all sound so exhausted. Like they are done working with Blizzard.
@sushionaram
@sushionaram 8 ай бұрын
"I wonder if those Defias fellows are still available" Oh my god. Edvin is spinning in his grave rn XD Edit: did research Its quote of Genn as champ from 2018 in HotS "Once Gilneas has been reclaimed, it will need to be rebuilt. I wonder if those Defias fellows are still available."
@BasedHorrigan
@BasedHorrigan 3 ай бұрын
This is pure evil. The stonemasons were heavily fucking bullied by the Noble class of the Alliance.
@Dramn_
@Dramn_ 8 ай бұрын
Should've fought the crusade, feral worgen and undead
@citrusbutter7718
@citrusbutter7718 8 ай бұрын
It's wonderful to see Gen while talking about handing over leadership of his beloved city, that an important figure would be there to witness it, a member of the ministry of silly wipes 17:53.
@iGizmoTech
@iGizmoTech 8 ай бұрын
They need to make a third faction now since the alliance and horde are basically the same faction these days. Those who disagree with the Alliance/Horde Alliance
@FenrirX
@FenrirX 8 ай бұрын
If only.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
You wish, lol. Not with modern Blizzard.
@ASpaceOstrich
@ASpaceOstrich 8 ай бұрын
I forgot how fucking terrible crowleys voice was. I feel bad for laughing at it but holy hell.
@FenrirX
@FenrirX 8 ай бұрын
Guy needs to stop smoking, lol.
@dnah02
@dnah02 8 ай бұрын
Too late I stopped carrying in shadowlands
@jandelic1278
@jandelic1278 8 ай бұрын
Meh, i expected so much more, q line was too short and predictable. It felt like theyve said:" we need his daughter to take over, just make it quick. " As a worgen i went bk to veldrakken thinking i should prolly race change...
@Goldman_90
@Goldman_90 8 ай бұрын
is it just me or genn is like 20 years younger in the tess cinematic?
@xhandril
@xhandril 7 ай бұрын
Uhhhhh..... that last sentence "I wonder the the Defias fellas are still around"...... im not so sure if they are interested in rebuilding another city for the alliance.. they seemed pretty pissed about not getting payed and then getting murdered as reward
@TheFlyWahine
@TheFlyWahine 8 ай бұрын
Man its bin a long time sins we first steped into gilneas with our wargen and today we take it back. So many years ago, feels like a big moment atleast for WoW.
@PazOfficial
@PazOfficial 8 ай бұрын
Been, since and worgen.
@lord_pamperin4233
@lord_pamperin4233 8 ай бұрын
this means that we will see the island of Kezan again, since blizzard has to give the goblins their home again, so that they don't make a faction difference!
@bumblesock738
@bumblesock738 8 ай бұрын
Is there any word from Blizz on wether Gilneas is actually a duel faction city?
@Storlans
@Storlans 8 ай бұрын
One of the worst questlines ever.... Alliance losses another cool leader for no reason and we got a new story that made no sense.
@melkermagnusson5070
@melkermagnusson5070 8 ай бұрын
Should have gotten Crowley as leader instead.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
They are replacing them with "wahmen". Steve Danuser, demands it!
@husamabudawoud3258
@husamabudawoud3258 3 ай бұрын
What about Liam Greymane?​@@georgedevries3992
@Christian85595
@Christian85595 8 ай бұрын
If people remember the WoD orcs and at one point to recruit the Mag`har i believe you saw the alternate draenai behaving pretty much like scarlet (if you dont follow the light you dead), i`m curious if they will move in that direction
@snappycenter7863
@snappycenter7863 8 ай бұрын
That was also poorly written. The alternate Draenei wanting to get back at the deadly world including the Orcs who oppressed and enslaved them...and they're somehow the bad guys.
@Christian85595
@Christian85595 8 ай бұрын
@@snappycenter7863 nah nah, don't try that :). I remember perfectly it wasnt about "getting back at the world" and it was about "FOLLOW THE LIGHT OR ELSE" which yes, makes them the bad guys
@snappycenter7863
@snappycenter7863 8 ай бұрын
@@Christian85595 Yrel's sermon literally states how dangerous AU Draenor is, and she's right. Apart from that it's just bad writing as the Draenei literally don't bring up how AU Grom, the leader of the Iron Horde, is walking alive and unpunished among the Mag'har.
@Christian85595
@Christian85595 8 ай бұрын
@@snappycenter7863God damn, i`ve been outnerded. alright...
@1musamune
@1musamune 8 ай бұрын
Just make sure you pay them Genn
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 8 ай бұрын
damn, why are these epilogue cutscenes actually kinda good while also being kinda sappy. Poor ol' Genn.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
Sappy and cringe, yes. Kinda good? Press X to doubt!
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 8 ай бұрын
@@georgedevries3992 that's okay. You don't have to like it nor will I try to convince you to.
@Hauntedhighheel
@Hauntedhighheel 8 ай бұрын
The quest was a dud. Does Blizz know their playerbase at all? Why am I even asking..
@TofuofLight
@TofuofLight 8 ай бұрын
Man i just wanted to see Crowley cleave with his arms during the battle again
@ratboygirl
@ratboygirl 8 ай бұрын
6:16 did his voice actor change??? am i going crazy. he sounds so different to me
@KenSachenbacher
@KenSachenbacher 8 ай бұрын
Could you make a video on the npcs with dialog in the Amirdrassil zone (like you mentioned the npcs in Gilneas post retaking)?
@ciocolici6739
@ciocolici6739 8 ай бұрын
this did not do justice to Gilneas. disappointing storyline. STILL... I am happy that we got something at least, and that there's a chance we will get even more stuff there.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
"I am happy that we got something at least" Used to think like this regarding Blizzard, back in the day. Thank the Emperor, I managed to escape.
@michaelmajor1909
@michaelmajor1909 8 ай бұрын
I hope to see Celestine of the Harvest and more of the Harvest witches. I hope to see the Blackwald being used so my worgen Druid feels like he belongs somewhere
@husamabudawoud3258
@husamabudawoud3258 5 ай бұрын
I am pretty inclined to go with old wolf Greymane on this view of the forsaken. I still hate the heck out of the wretched banshee queen with a dedication. Oh I hate Sylvanas wind runner so much that I even developed a very scary SV hunter combo I usually use on a floating priest or a levitating demon hunter or raid boss. The first use of that happened in the reckoning raid and it was Sylvanas screaming mid air when I first harpooned into har face, shredded her with butchery and shoved a grenade down her throat. I even have a bloody barbed meat hook dedicated to Sylvanas as the banshee carver 😂 well that and a nasty meat cleaver look. I only put them on when I'm pissed off. You see a white wolf toting a big bloody cleaver ie scyth looking pretty pissed off in the arena... Run like hell.🤣🤣🤣
@TheMMObro
@TheMMObro 7 ай бұрын
What sword is that at 8:35?
@filipfenix
@filipfenix 8 ай бұрын
Apparently the Scarlet Crusade have aquired a couple of the Allinace cloning machines. Makes lore sence.
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 8 ай бұрын
Is not like Horde has not something like that in its sleeves, given the rate they are replenishing their armies. Forsaken in particular should have pretty short of numbers given BFA war and the fact they can't be raising any new undead.
@MrVlad12340
@MrVlad12340 7 ай бұрын
@@francescoporcari8597 and orcs had literally 4-5 ships worth of people, and those were not some massive arcs either and now they somehow have enough orcs to spread all over the world.
@sneakyluqas7325
@sneakyluqas7325 8 ай бұрын
This quest was a joke...
@robertc8425
@robertc8425 8 ай бұрын
The sorrow from Genn voice is so heartbrakin, almost cried... I am no father, but the pain from his voice make me think about the years that passed and the mistakes we did.
@Zaudejis
@Zaudejis 4 ай бұрын
Pallid not Pale.
@j.a.1785
@j.a.1785 8 ай бұрын
The quest line was terribly lackluster and the writing felt like 7th grade fan fic.
@CelticShaman.
@CelticShaman. 8 ай бұрын
Did Genn's VA change?
@petersander5802
@petersander5802 8 ай бұрын
They should make the Liam death sacrifice scene into a cinematic him walking casualy up to her's kinda lame
@StormAngelWolf
@StormAngelWolf 8 ай бұрын
You think the Scarlet cruciade was a challenge? I was piling up them drunken hillbillies dressed like templars on a Halloween night for like an hour out of utter spite and frustration. And now they added gigantic rats n maggots to the rodent tunnel like it's supposed to be nostalgic? More like it's fighting gigantic radioactive critters in the ruins of Chernobyl. Did the wow lore writers lose their touch it felt cheap and poorly recycled like the Communist toilet paper.
@FenrirX
@FenrirX 8 ай бұрын
Blizzard is dead. Been for a while. So forget about the writers, they're clueless and purposely malicious.
@AbigatorM
@AbigatorM 4 ай бұрын
as a girl with 4 brothers i love the daddy issue approach.
@SigvaldScionofSuccubi
@SigvaldScionofSuccubi 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t you play antechamber a long time ago? Where’s that playlist!
@Nobbel87
@Nobbel87 8 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/aero/PLKc_POCRw4bxXcUlKqdsuKtJsZCkGLUoM
@SigvaldScionofSuccubi
@SigvaldScionofSuccubi 8 ай бұрын
@@Nobbel87 legendary ❤️
@Drekulviin
@Drekulviin 5 ай бұрын
4:45 The Horde have a counsel (democracy) The Alliance have a King (Monarchy) Who's the good guy in this ?
@BasedHorrigan
@BasedHorrigan 3 ай бұрын
I really hope Turalyon slaps Genn for retaking Gilneas without his consideration
@Drekulviin
@Drekulviin 3 ай бұрын
@@BasedHorrigan I don't see your point, you probably missclioked and posted your comment on the wrong place.
@shadewolf0075
@shadewolf0075 11 күн бұрын
Do you think every fictional nation with a king is inherently evil? The horde are far from a democracy considering it’s members are still largely ran by single rulers chieftain regent warchief etc are essentially the same role as a king. with the exception being the forsaken being ruled by a council the horde isn’t a democracy
@teeth716
@teeth716 8 ай бұрын
It’s good to be home…
@Vina.Acecook
@Vina.Acecook 8 ай бұрын
did they changed Genns voice actor? oO
@ThePersmo
@ThePersmo 8 ай бұрын
Is there a reason given why the scourge didn't invade Gilneas? I'm having a hard time believing that their wall was the reason seeing as the high elves had more advanced defences.
@abyssalserpent3679
@abyssalserpent3679 8 ай бұрын
It was said that the Gilneans had trouble keeping the Scourge back during their invasion, so it was a "desperate times call for desperate measures" kind of scenario when Genn asked Arugal to fend off the Scourge with his secret weapon: that being the Worgen curse. It worked on defeating the Scourge to keep them from invading Gilneas, at the cost of the worgen also mindlessly killing everyone else in-sight and unleashing the worgen curse in the process.
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 8 ай бұрын
The scourge was more directed to Quel'thalas (to summon Archimonde using the Sunwell). I think that not much effort was put in conquering the south.
@eurosonly
@eurosonly 7 ай бұрын
The modern dev team can't write for squat in this game. As a worgen enjoyer, I was disappointed with this quest chain and what I was expecting was a grand slam which made you feel epic about being a worgen. But nope. Here's a little quick side project and off you go. This is their way of saying Gilneas is not important to us and is a forgotten piece of history that was meant to help launch cataclysm and the new race with it. Which is a shame because it's such a detailed setting.
@christianhollingsworth4244
@christianhollingsworth4244 8 ай бұрын
QUEEN CALIA?!
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
Yup. She will make sure to become best friends, with her fellow woman leader to the north of Gilneas because remember, women are only capable of positive and good things while men are racists, evil etc. Gj, Blizz.
@jeremiasc.2972
@jeremiasc.2972 6 ай бұрын
It was a mistake made while writing this quest and wasn't correct after.
@22espec
@22espec 8 ай бұрын
Sadly the death of Genn is coming, so many red flags has been reaised already. I hope his end is better than Tirion's
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
You mean, Blizz replaces him with his daughter for good? Due to feminist ideology?
@22espec
@22espec 8 ай бұрын
@@georgedevries3992 Good god! Not everything is a woke or a femist plot, this is an old trope used since fantasy fiction was created.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
@@22espec Right. But anyways, the "femist" stuff is there, regardless. Heck, Genn did barely a thing while his daughter took the lead during the questline. Oh well, modern Blizzard doing what it does best.
@rodneyranch2420
@rodneyranch2420 8 ай бұрын
One by one going through and replacing faction leaders with girlbosses and turning their male characters into sensitive melodramatic crybabies. Look at genn in legion or even bfa, to this. Lmao
@AlexSaheli
@AlexSaheli 8 ай бұрын
14 years. Don't regter it has ended. Be happy it happened.
@krustyklownkollege7361
@krustyklownkollege7361 8 ай бұрын
Aw another woman in charge. Greeeeeat.......
@AngelusAngel1100
@AngelusAngel1100 8 ай бұрын
Are you seriously complaining about that?
@Ankhtowe
@Ankhtowe 8 ай бұрын
@@AngelusAngel1100 Yes.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
@@AngelusAngel1100 He's right, you know. Primarily because Blizzard is full on tryhard feminism. If you don't realize that well...
@Joe-bs6hd
@Joe-bs6hd 8 ай бұрын
9:24 This part made me laugh out loud, not only is the worgen heritage armor all about being told that being a worgen is a bad thing and should NOT be embraced, not only is the reclamation the most lazy piece of work blizzard has done, but now this, the forsaken throwing plague bombs at the city, just like they did when they attacked the city that drove out the gilneans in the first place. If blizzard hates worgen so much, just delete the race instead of giving us the most lazy writing imaginable. Edit: Also players play the werewolf race, to look like a werewolf, why is the heritage armor and the reclaimation of gilneas armor have us dress up as some people from 1900s england??
@francescoporcari8597
@francescoporcari8597 8 ай бұрын
I do agree with everything, except the last paragraph (I don't give a damn about the armour). The victorian style was part of Gilneas graphic, sound and cultural identity since Cata.
@FenrirX
@FenrirX 8 ай бұрын
It's actually more that they hate old Lore and characters than Worgen themselves because it's better than what they could ever write themselves and also 'problematic' for 'modern audiences'.
@jeremyjw
@jeremyjw 8 ай бұрын
after watching that cutscene , it occurs to me that Genn has a not-great family dynamic . he's been focusing so much on his dead son , that he may have been neglecting his daughter .
@greenchilistudioz4537
@greenchilistudioz4537 8 ай бұрын
Pretty neat questline, could of been better lol
@KurceQ
@KurceQ 8 ай бұрын
I havent watched this channel since end of wod, did he had stroke in that time? why does he talk like that
@jameskim1505
@jameskim1505 8 ай бұрын
WEAK
@StormAngelWolf
@StormAngelWolf 8 ай бұрын
Gah I had better things to do or I would have gone to blizzcon just to bust their balls about it. Maybe next year. It's been 14 years man I never started playing the game till the worgen came about.
@MicahSMoore
@MicahSMoore 8 ай бұрын
5:00
@zabuza3663
@zabuza3663 8 ай бұрын
Awoooooooooooooooooooo
@mixion4982
@mixion4982 8 ай бұрын
the ingame quest was mid as fuck
@bonthejo6976
@bonthejo6976 8 ай бұрын
New vid!!!
@basedluanp
@basedluanp 8 ай бұрын
Oh my god that final dialogue on the grave made me tear up...
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
It also made me shudder what Blizz has in store for Genn. One of the few, TRUE leaders of the Alliance.
@carrastealth
@carrastealth 8 ай бұрын
10:55 ... Wait a minute....are Lillian and Tess...
@warllockmasterasd9142
@warllockmasterasd9142 8 ай бұрын
and so, the last king of time of old at last found his peace.
@FBGshouldveducked
@FBGshouldveducked 8 ай бұрын
111🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ThatGUY666666
@ThatGUY666666 8 ай бұрын
I must say the voice actors for Glenn and Tess killed it with their performances. I must say I am proud of Glenn for realizing he needed to yield command to Tess and then see it was best for his Kingdom to abdicate so she could become queen. The old Glenn would have been far too stubborn and proud. For the Alliance and long live the Queen
@FenrirX
@FenrirX 8 ай бұрын
You forgot "Yas Queen Slay". What joke the current retail Alliance is, fucking Disney grade slop.
@georgedevries3992
@georgedevries3992 8 ай бұрын
Genn's old voice was much better compared to this. Just like his older self was much better to this pussified, joke of a king getting replaced by a "strong, female, character" who will become instant friends with members of the Horde. Tess ought to make sure to rub some P with Calia, while she's at it. Bloody hell.
@baileygregg6567
@baileygregg6567 8 ай бұрын
Worgen were my favorite PvPer target as an Ali gone Horde pre-BC💀😹 as a Troll furry they were a pleasure to Seek and Destroy 🔥🎶 many thousands put down Rouges especially 👻
@TheWodin
@TheWodin 8 ай бұрын
The quest line that proved to me wow absolutely lost it after 19 years and two tattoos I un subbed.
@ctaylor9308
@ctaylor9308 8 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@chasegetson1125
@chasegetson1125 8 ай бұрын
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@ΓιάννηςΝικολάου-η5ω
@ΓιάννηςΝικολάου-η5ω 8 ай бұрын
I can't stand this shit. Modern writing in all its glory. WoW is dead.
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 8 ай бұрын
“Hey the Scarlets are back!” “Oh wait, never mind.”
@Resi1ience
@Resi1ience 8 ай бұрын
_Scarlets in MoP_ "hey they're back!" _they die_ "Aww." _Scarlets in Legion_ "Hey they're back!" _they die_ "Awww." _scarlets in Forsaken heritage_ "Hey they're back!" _they die_ "Awww." _scarlets in gilneas questline_ "Hey they're back!" _they die_ "Awww." Can't wait to finally join them.
@smilly456
@smilly456 2 ай бұрын
@@Resi1ience It'll never happen Blizzard sees them the same way Bethesda sees the enclave just a "we need a villian for the player to fight" group all the while they try to redeem the irredeemable forsaken
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