How This Duck Outsmarted Disney's Lawyers

[@edlundart]

Hey all - fresh Arne Anka comics are available in English and can be shipped to all of Europe, the UK, and the US! Order from arneanka.org/produkt/arne-anka-all-these-wars-talk-about-ourselves-2/

[@Salador64]

Hey you should check out the case of the ice cream shop in Paraguay that won against Disney and now has Mickey as their mascot

[@edlundart]

@@Salador64 Hi, a couple of people have mentioned this, and I'm taking a look at it! I may mention it in a future video.

[@spadeespada9432]

Question from the slow section. What about Howard the Duck

[@aglcomics]

Are these available as pdf or kindle? Currently overseas and mobile for an extended period and would like to read Arne Anka.

[@edlundart]

@@aglcomics I'm not 100% sure, but I don't believe so, I think it's physical media only.

[@MrMegaManFan]

Any artist who can outsmart Disney is a hero in my eyes too.

[@WilfredZeijpveld]

super easy, can't claim copyright on nature... claiming a duck or a mouse is just as silly as claiming trees, only thing is, nobody dared to stand up to disney...

@@WilfredZeijpveld Disney never pretended to own the concept of ducks (or mouses). Name me one case of Disney suing someone for having a duck character. What they do own is the character Donald Duck, including his specific design and name. It's not like D.D. is literally just a duck.

[@kayakMike1000]

Well... Disney these days is pretty dumb. They wrecked Star Wars.

[@francisdec1615]

The Disney universe is mainly built on lies, while Arne Anka is an anarchist and pessimist philosopher in cartoon format.

He didn’t though. Disney just know it’s not worth pursuing. He still looks like Donald doesn’t matter what try hard reason you give for it.

[@krank23]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's probably trademarked by Disney

[@edlundart]

Hahah, it would seem like it!

[@macsnafu]

Unless it's Daffy Duck! A black duck instead of a white duck. Why doesn't somebody do a green and brown duck? wouldn't that be closer to real ducks?

[@Teddyngham]

@@macsnafu Plucky Duck is a green duck from Tiny Toon Adventures

[@joelgalliardmusic]

@@macsnafu Actually, Vitas used a cartoon animated Daffy Duck clone in exactly those colors for no reason at all in his videoclip ''Made in China'', that Duck is just vibing there the whole time lol

[@janzizka9963]

Count Duckula also survived I think.

[@SIG442]

Disney: "You are not allowed to copy our work! We will sue you!" Also Disney: "We will copy anything we wish, you can't stop us!"

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

The reason is how lawyer fees are being paid. In the US both sides pay their own lawyers while in (most of) Europe the losing side pays the lawyers of both sides. This allows US corporations to sue small businesses or individuals into bankruptcy with cases they could ultimately never win.

[@travismiller5548]

​@@gustavmeyrink_2.0you can be awarded lawyers fees in many circumstances in the US.

[@notfeedynotlazy]

@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Dunno about Swedish law, but can confirm that's how it works in Spain. You do need to pay your lawyer in advance, but once the trial ends the losing side is to pay all the trial's cost. SPECIFICALLY to avoid the "sue weaker firm into bankrupcy despite law being on its side" tactics.

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

@@notfeedynotlazy Why Swedish law?

[@notfeedynotlazy]

@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Uh... because the video description states this whole trololo happened there?

[@KalleK-h5e]

You forgot the best part .he sent the bill to Disney in real life

[@Iscannon]

The receipt or the mask?

[@Rum-Runner]

Like a replica of the mask, or the actual receipt?

[@kalleboll7410]

o the receipt

[@y2ksw1]

What did they say?

[@davidiwata7063]

An NFT?

[@kjells3578]

My fave line from the comic: "Am I living in a country or in a joke?"

[@gamingSlasher]

Very appropriate now a days.

[@3nertia]

It's always been a joke and high society is laughing all the way to the bank heh

[@darkiee69]

Life is like a baboon ass, colorful and full of 💩

[@cameronwebb5621]

wow he's literally me 🇺🇸

[@SofaKingShit]

A cruel hoax.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

This is going to become a lot more interesting once the year 2030 passes here in the USA, since that’ll be the year when Donald Duck enters the public domain.

[@edlundart]

We may see an explosion and flourishing of cartoon ducks in the future 🤣

[@meltdown6165]

Disney will pay some lobbyists (again) to extend the copyright terms to infinity.

[@dlxmarks]

The copyright expiration will be applied as it was to Mickey Mouse: a rolling public domain with the oldest iterations entering first.

[@josephholsinger262]

@@meltdown6165 That depends on how much money Disney still has since their movie division has been bleeding lots of cash due to making expensive flops.

[@Malakawaka]

Not true. What will enter the public domain is any work published before, according to copyright. But all characters are now trademarks, which if renewed timely don't expire

[@Powersnufkin]

"Thinking before you talk is like wiping your ass before you shit" Arne Duck.

[@MrPPunch69]

That applies only when you talk shit...

[@y2ksw1]

Is the comic available in English?

[@Powersnufkin]

@@y2ksw1 I dont know. i only found it in swedish and norwegian.

[@peterrevens8454]

@@Powersnufkin Comes in danish too. Not that it would be to much help.

[@swedishgooner6339]

”It’s when you feel the scent of your own poop you start to wonder what you really are” - Arne Anka

[@jakemarcus9999]

Nothing gives me more pleasure than someone basically showing middle finger to big corporate and just keep doing great art

[@DanielRossellSolanes]

you never had an orgasm did you?

[@CountJeffula]

Disney should focus on actually making good content instead of stopping others from doing so.

[@Nyoko130]

Well said! Absolutely agree.

[@joeszymanski3540]

In all fairness this all happened when they used to make quality entertainment.

[@theecomsensei]

Do you think it's their creative people who sued him? 😂 Disney is a big corporation they have lawyers working independently and creative people working independently. They can do many things at once you know...😅

[@CountJeffula]

@ doesn’t seem like they can. They only seem capable of focusing on a few things. Now, they are focusing on reboots and sequels because the execs felt that Turning Red and Luca were failures despite not having theatrical releases. Also, their lawyers defending Disney on the grounds that someone downloaded Disney+ and agreed to the terms and conditions therein agreeing to binding arbitration when their legal concern is about a woman’s death only further demonstrates a clear lack of enterprise cohesion. The marketing and PR department should never have allowed such a defense to be raised which diminishes customer relations and decreases trust. In fact, pretty much all of Disney’s actions of late have been in the interest of shareholders at the expense of the brand’s image and reputation.

[@jaymcbakerk]

Ironically they took a Scandinavian fairytale and black washed it, but hey

[@Hrotti]

Iceland and Finland is also obsessed with the Donald duck comics... Dont forget us

[@edlundart]

Not mentioned, but not forgotten! Thanks for watching and commenting - and representing!

[@EricvanDorp007]

The Dutch 2

[@janemiettinen5176]

In Finland we have our own duck painter, Kaj Stenvall. His works are pretty awesome.

[@nzxt1234]

you are never forgotten Family ! you guys are great and i will always point out if a map of the nordic or convesation is missing iceland or if someone do not mention finland ! Grew up subscribtion donald duck and all the old case of old kalle anka comics not to mention the cartoons and Donald duck x-mas

[@thomaslutro5560]

I grew up with Donald Duck, then grew into Arne Anka. As a Norwegian, just got to say: We got the best neighbours ever!

[@edlundart]

Grew up / grew into - what a great way to put it! And I agree, lots of cool stuff from Sweden.

[@scamgodmillionaire]

Vi gillar er också ❤

[@TheoZier-gi8rg]

@@edlundartNi är så grymma öck!!! Cezinando är en av de bästa nordiska artisterna någonsin!!

[@benktlofgren4710]

Disney destroyed Donald Duck, with all new modern stuff. The Mickey Mouse parts were always the most boring parts of Kalle Anka & Co

[@edlundart]

​@@TheoZier-gi8rg Oh wow, I LOVE Cezinando! And since I live in NYC, I never met or heard from anyone else who even knows about him. I think he is incredibly talented!

[@nallenthepuh]

Its gets even funnier that the Butricks mask and reciet actually exist in real life and is at a Disney Museum in Sweden. It was so fun to see it

[@edlundart]

It’s at a Disney museum??!

[@mcstabba]

Is it at Lasse Åbergs museum in Bålsta? I know he collects Disney stuff which he displays there as well as his own Disney inspired art.

[@ZiddersRooFurry]

It's not an official museum. It's just a museum that happens to have Disney memorabilia in it.

[@edlundart]

@@ZiddersRooFurry That makes more sense 😀

[@nallenthepuh]

@@ZiddersRooFurry yes, its at Lasse Åberg musseum, it is a disney museum not an official disney musseum. :) and i have seen it irl.

[@hallowen]

Donald has actual character traits and flaws, and the stories about him are fun to read. He was always a better character than Mickey, that goddamn holier-than-thou rodent 😜

[@edlundart]

I agree! Donald Duck, especially in the earlier days, was actually a good character, and did have more of an edge to him than one typically associates with Disney. Also: "holier-than-thou rodent" is a hilarious description that made me laugh 🤣 Thanks for watching and chiming in!

[@dlxmarks]

Mickey was a much more entertaining before he got kicked upstairs to be the official corporate mascot.

[@nisselarson3227]

Yeah but mickey started out fun and even MEAN. Then he became a crime-solving genius :)

[@chromasus9983]

Even Mickey is a good character when he adventures as a detective. The mascot versions are so much lesser than the comic versions, for sure.

[@pahvi3]

I liked to read the Donald Duck comics and Uncle Scrooge, but Donald always ended up unlucky and used by his uncle and I felt so bad for him

[@X0unz]

Why is everything that is related to Donald Duck History is so good, like; -matttt’s video about the Duckman -and now this video Great Job! 👍

[@edlundart]

Thanks! I haven’t seen that video, but a few people have mentioned Duckman, so I’ll check it out!

[@RexRex-n5t]

Duckstorians are usually pretty creative. Yes that is what they call themselves.

[@OmbreDunDouble]

There's also Inspecteur Canardo, a great BD, dont know if there's translation of it tho.

[@chemistryguy]

Ahhhh, the rich tradition of sex-crazed, irredeemable anthropomorphic ducks. Howard the Duck. Duckman. I'd never heard of Arne Anka, but I'd like to meet him.

[@edlundart]

Thanks for mentioning Duckman, I had not heard of him - looks cool!

[@masterofthecontinuum]

Ducks are crazed rapists irl, so it fits.

[@Tycahal1991]

Inspector Canardo

[@the_epipan]

What the hell is going on with the ducks? XD I would think lust would have more to do with rabbits or rats.

[@RevelationsPrimo]

​@@edlundart TO quote Pan Pizza, the Rebel Taxi driver, "OH FVCK, its DICKMAN'

[@animtonni]

in Denmark we got a new Donald duck issue each monday, and then my dad would read it to me and my sister... it is some of my most cherished childhood memories

[@edlundart]

That sounds really sweet! I have years of Donald material lodged into my head, including "Donald pocket books," did you have those?

[@arctic.wizard]

The most wholesome thing I've read all day. I wonder if my kids will look back as fondly on skibidi toilet.

[@edlundart]

@@arctic.wizard Hah, only time will tell!

[@nisselarson3227]

@@edlundart I had most of them. The Italian and South American characters got interesting for a while. The pocket books were not that good, and only half-colored for a while... But in the late 80's they started being great! :) Even if they introduced a love interest for Scrooge and such. I liked a lot of the new characters. Maybe Knase didn't need a nephew though. And gilbert? For a while everyone had to have a nephew.

[@edlundart]

@@nisselarson3227 Yeah the pocket books got pretty wild with the storylines, it felt sort of like movies that just cast Disney characters in random roles. There was one where Donald (I think it was Donald) was a Formula 1 racer, and I think that one was sort of lodged in my head for many years and then still was instrumental in me deciding to start watching F1 at some point years and years and years after I read it. Anyway, you're right, it feels like Disney is obsessed with nephews.

[@VNExperience]

In Finland, Donald Duck is also an institution. I would argue that most of us Finns, at least of those born between 1970 and 1990, learned to read from the Aku Ankka (Donald Duck in Finnish) magazine. Culturally the Nordic nations have a lot in common.

[@edlundart]

Yes, good point - Donald probably got millions of children started on the reading journey. Also, I am loving hearing from people in all the Nordic countries in this comments section. I probably should have said "the Nordic countries" rather than just Scandinavia when talking about the popularity of Donald Duck. Thanks for watching and adding your voice and representing Finland!

[@zonraNboy]

Yeah I remember my mom read Donald duck to me and then I wanted to learn to read them myself so I learned to read when I was 5. I also got interested in drawing because of Donald duck stories.

[@edlundart]

@@zonraNboy I think it was the same for me regarding drawing. Donald and co, plus other comics characters, were the first things I wanted to draw, and I spent a lot of time learning how to draw each of them.

[@jukka-pekkatuominen4540]

Aku Ankka magazine was at the time (and is still!) the most subscribed magazine in Finland. It is unprecedented how popular that magazine is in Finland.

[@NekoiscoolII]

Donald Duck:"Who are you?" Arne Duck:"I'm you, but I like all the things you hate and dislike the things you love."

[@rogermagnusson8877]

"I dont have a problem with alkohol. I have a problem with reality. " - Arne Anka

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

Disney is just jealous because Arne And is far more cool than Donald Duck will ever be.

[@ZiddersRooFurry]

Donald Duck is a great character. Carl Barks work shouldn't be dismissed just because it's for a shitty company.

[@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution]

@@ZiddersRooFurry Charlie Christensen (Alexander Barks)'s works should also not be dismissed. I did not say Donald Duck was not great, I said Arne And was MORE cool. But I agree that Donald Duck is greater as a character than Disney is as a company. Disney has many great and even some cool characters, but most of them was created before Walt Disney died and Disney became the shitty company we see today.

[@nisselarson3227]

Butterick's is a real novelty store and that's their real receipt...

[@virkots]

Yes, Christensen went there and bought the beak in real life too, and sent a copy of the receipt to Disney's lawyers, hahaha.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Arne Anka and Paraguayan Mickey Mouse would definitely hang out every now and then.

[@edlundart]

Wow, thanks for mentioning this! I had not heard of this Paraguay case, but reading about it now - very interesting!

[@andersmalmgren6528]

And mexican Yoshi

[@Herfinnur]

Wait, what? WHO!? Tell us more!

[@y2ksw1]

Is that a thing?

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

@@Herfinnur TL;DR a Paraguayan supermarket chain named Mickey SRL found a loophole where The Walt Disney Company did not trademark Mickey Mouse's profile view of his head, only the front. Disney took them to court and despite all odds, Mickey SRL won the case, and still uses Mickey Mouse's head on their logo to this very day.

[@staffanpettersson359]

"Framtiden är som en babianröv, färgglad och full med skit" 😂

[@GhastlyGhostrider]

Åh, de där är tammefan en klassiker! 🤣

[@DonMachado]

Som det amerikanska talesättet, "Ursäkter är som idioter, alla har en, och de är alla fulla av skit."

[@Alvedrotten]

Cheers from Norway, and kudos to Sweden!

[@hansericsson7058]

Jag hade Arne i Metallarbetaren var annan vecka på 80 talet och klippte alltid ut och sparade dom, världens bästa serie helt klar. Skål kosmonauter!

[@perpetualbystander4516]

Jag klippte också ur Arne Anka och sparade i en plastmapp!

[@remelin75]

I wasn't aware of all this about Arne Anka! I only saw him in Metallarbetaren, which featured very short strips. Thank you so much for this trip down memory lane!

[@edlundart]

My pleasure - thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Drakiren]

the artist did go to buttericks and buy the mask, which he sent to the law firm with a copy of the reciept as well, which is the main reason they backed down.

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

I love this! One thing that I've thought for a long time should be added to copyright law is a clause stating that nobody can sue an entity with less than 1% of their own net worth. If you're as big as Disney, you can afford to let people parody your stuff.

[@edlundart]

Thank you! I think some kind of moderation like that seems like a great idea.

[@GwydionFrost]

I feel there is something beautiful here -- once again, the 1% get preferential treatment from the courts... It's just the BOTTOM 1% for a change. You know, the ones that the courts really should be looking out for, if one wants to be called civilized. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

@@GwydionFrost That's the thing, though, the top 1% has more than 100x the money of a lot of people. The wealth distribution curve is practically exponential. Even excluding the fact that nearly every corporation would be even higher than this, the 99th percentile net worth in the US is well over 10 million, so something like 40% of all US citizens fall below the 100k net worth where they would be protected from any civil suits by the 1%, and even some multi-millionaires would be unsuable by billionaires and very large corporations. Doing this would disincentivize wealth hoarding and large corporations, because becoming too big would make it completely impossible to sue people for breaches of your intellectual property.

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

@@GwydionFrost Oh, also another thing: Due to how debt based the US economy is, over 10% of people actually have zero or negative net worth, so your struggling artists with student loans barely able to afford the rent, along with a large chunk of the working class, would be almost entirely immune to copyright law. I will fully admit, I'm very left leaning. I think it's entirely fucked that wealth disparities of more than three or four orders of magnitude can even exist in the first place. I will admit, if you get lucky and do literally everything right, it is possible to become a millionaire through hard work. My dad grew up working class, and by being incredibly frugal, getting a good education, and getting a well paying job, he recently retired with just over a million in total assets. But unless you are a Henry Ford level innovator, it's just not possible to actually earn much more than 10 million in a human lifetime on your own merits, and I don't think people with much more than that should be allowed to take other people's money. On the other side, plenty of people are fucked into debt and have no financial support from their families, and I don't think anyone should be able to kick them while they're down. The whole thing of it being morally fine to steal bread from Wallmart. So, yeah, disallowing lawsuits if the plaintiff has multiple orders of magnitude more money than the defendant would do so much to give more class equality in the world.

[@GwydionFrost]

@@bow-tiedengineer4453 you mean, in essence acting as in, oh I don't know, an intellectual property decentralization, where the only people you need to fear are those rivals who are nearly as competent or incompetent as yourself. Just don't rip off the fringe guys. 😉

[@Popesize]

Arne Anka. A comic full of memorable quotes. If i remember right, the EIC of Tago tried to please to Disney at first. Saying that the similar looks and the name was a hommage to the originals. The fake beak actually existed in the store. That was the real reciept from the store in wich Charlie bought it from.

[@edlundart]

The idea that it’s a real store and a real beak that the artist bought is a great detail, thanks for adding that - and thanks for watching and commenting!

[@petter5721]

En öl är en öl 😂

[@BigDaddyJinx]

Beating a corporate megalith at their own game was chef's kiss x10. That's a 500 IQ 4D chess move right there.

[@ogelsmogel]

Thanks for the nostalgic goose bumps! As a swede in my 40's I grew up reading Donald Duck comics (Don Rosa was my favorite artist with Carl Barks coming in a close second). Man, those were the days 😄 Then, as I grew up as a teenager I found other stuff, like Arne Anka (and later others like Rocky and Elvis, but Arne was the OG), and this video brought back so many memories! I love the way he handled the Disney lawsuit. I mean, if I had worked for Disney at that time I'd have to give it to him. It was brilliant 👌

[@edlundart]

So happy to hear from people for whom this was a nostalgia trip, that's great! And I agree that Don Rosa's line was great!

[@MsEngelby]

Don Rosa stories were brilliant. The stories happening in the background and the attention to detail.. Legendary.. I even bought a special issue a few years back just because I recognised his artwork. You never grow out of Don Rosa stories.

[@Malin.I]

Hur kan jag helt ha missat Arne Anka?! Känner ju till namnet men vart kunde man läsa? Jag är 35 så är ju några år mellan men att jag missat totalt och inte ens vetat något om Arne och att den verkar ju helt underbar😂

[@HughJass-313]

​@@MsEngelby Rosa was lame. CARL BARKS is the *GOAT!* ☀️😎☀️

[@WaiGee_]

Finland and Estonia also were obsessed with the donald duck comics, my grandma had so many collected over the years and i binge read them every time i visited. My aunt in finland regularly visited and gifted me more of those comics. Love you both ❤

[@arctic.wizard]

I love this comic. Its raw and uncensored approach to humor took me by surprise when I discovered it as a teenager, and Arne lives rent-free in my head to this day.

[@edlundart]

You and me both!

[@andersmalmgren6528]

My favorite line from Arne Anka and I basicly use daily is, Att tänka innan man talar, är som att torka sig i röven innan man skiter. Which roughly translates to, Thinking before you speak is like wiping your arse before you take a shit.

[@ShawnChang6453]

Then again, did Disney paid all the ducks in the entire planet for using their resemblance without permission?

[@Webhead123]

I love it when the writers and artists get creative in the face of adversity. If you want another story about cartoon ducks and their creators fighting back, take a look into how Steve Gerber found a clever way retain some control over Howard the Duck after feeling betrayed by Marvel.

[@edlundart]

Same here re: adversity! I just read a bit about Howard the Duck vs Disney after another comment about him. If you know a good link with info on that stuff, please do share.

[@gorilladisco9108]

I found this on google: rsmwriter.blogspot.com/2016/04/all-quacked-up-steve-gerber-marvel.html

[@OleAlexanderBrunaes]

The so-called Donald Duck stuff that is broadcast on Scandinavian television every Christmas Eve is literally From All of Us to All of You, only processed, what is variable from year to year are the Christmas surprises.

[@romaricogalvez1024]

If it moves like a duck,walks like a duck,quacks like a duck,it is a……

[@inkchariot6147]

Chicken

[@stoferb876]

@@inkchariot6147 with a wearable duck beak.

[@arctic.wizard]

Copyright infringement.

[@mr.theking2484]

​​@@arctic.wizard Damnit, came here to say that exact line, beat me to it by 6 minutes

[@trashcatlinol]

​@@mr.theking2484sucks being a day late to drop that comment off XD

[@igalbitan5096]

Disney is truly evil. It's kinda ironic to figure out that Howard the Duck now belongs to Disney...

[@xarvh]

Anything that wants to reach that level of power is evil. There is no evil without power.

[@igalbitan5096]

@@xarvh I agree with the first part. But I think one can be evil without (having or searching) power.

[@anglaismoyen]

​@@igalbitan5096and likewise, power is not per se evil. It only becomes evil in the hands of sinful humanity.

[@igalbitan5096]

@@anglaismoyen Indeed! It tends to corrupt humans.

[@PS-it1dm]

I found some of the Arne Duck comics translated into Finnish from library maybe a decade ago. Loved these comics. I grew up with weekly Donald Duck magazine. In Finland it was released on wednesdays. We also watched the Donald duck cartoon at christmas time when I was kid.

[@edlundart]

Awesome that it’s available in Finnish, too! I wish it was available in English, so I could share it with friends over here in the US. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@MetsisJ]

The Finnish edition Aku Ankka still comes out. The number of readers peaked at the year 2017 to 574 000 of a population 5,5 million back then making it the most read magazine in the country! The print run has since then been in declining, but Finland still leads in the statistics of Disney-comics read in relation to the population size.

[@PS-it1dm]

@@MetsisJ I haven't bought the comic for a decade now. For me decline started when Keno Don Rosa stopped making the comics. He is and was the best artist for the magazine.

[@edlundart]

​@@MetsisJ Yeah those are incredible numbers!

[@moremartinthanmartin]

It's stuff like this I find extremely interesting. I don't think I would have ever found out about this in my life if I hadn't found this video. Thanks for uploading. This is fascinating!

[@edlundart]

Love getting comments like this, thanks for checking it out!

[@JoakimKanon]

Yes, lots of Arne Anka and Pyton in my pre-teen edgelord days… 🤩👌🏼

[@pettson3816]

Åh nu påminde du mig om att jag har massa årgångs-pyton i källarförrådet jag måste ta upp och läsa någon gång.

[@TheRealStructurer]

Yes I fondly remember those Tuesdays as a kid in 🇸🇪 Then Arne Anka when I got older. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

[@edlundart]

Thanks for tuning in and chiming in!

[@imagiro1]

This is an extremely encouraging story that inspires hope. Especially for a guy named Arne.

[@kimmikkelsen9601]

One of my favorite quotes of all time, describes the reality I live in, as a person living with chronic disease: "Om livet siger Arne And: At klare sig i nutidens samfund. er som at hoppe ud fra en skyskraber og være lykkelig hele vejen ned" (( About life Arne Duck says: Living in contemporary society is like jumping off a skyscraper and being happy the whole way down)) This speaks to what Arne And is really about. It reflects on how hard life can be at times, but society expects you to smile. This is why Arne And is such a genious work of art!

[@Njald]

I met Charlie Christensen i the mid 90ies and he was contemplating taking a break from Arne (who had started in the early 80ies in a Union magazine for Metal workers union). he felt as he was living in Spain he had lost some touch with the contemporary issues of Sweden that made the drunken ramblings of Arne so poignant. He did indeed take a log hiatus from the comic not long after that. For me Arne was essential reading in the early 90ies when the monthly strips were publish in paperback issues. Eventhough I was a teenager/early 20ies and perhaps couldn't always understand the "life on hold" mind set of Arne, the humour and the political/philosophical side always hit home. Is is as essential as Strindberg, Hemingway and Hunter S. Thompson.

[@edlundart]

Your perspective on Arne sounds similar to mine - I was more ambitious, and I wasn’t a drinker, but in my quiet way I have a little bit of a punk streak and a rebellious mind that found a voice in characters like Arne!

[@sysghost]

Poor Walt Disney Co. They're losing so much money because of Arne Duck.

[@beaniiman]

I don't care for all the litigation Disney gets involved with but if they don't do that, they lose the copyright. If they lost the copyright, then anybody can make Donald Duck anything and they could do nothing about it. They literally do not do it just to be mean. Same goes with Nintendo.

[@emberguard5009]

Donald duck is just a generic white duck in a blue sailors uniform.

[@davidsentanu7836]

​​@@emberguard5009No it does not. Ducks don't actually look like Donald Duck. Donald Duck has arms and hands. Donald Duck has a flat wide beak, real ducks have long more tubular beak. Donald Duck has flat feet. Real ducks basically have webbed chicken legs. Donald Ducks has extremely large eyes that don't fit in his skull. Real ducks have small eyes on the sides on their heads. Donald Duck wear a shirt but not pants (except when swimming, for some reasons.)

[@quasimodo8215]

😆

[@TrylleBanjo]

Arne Anka is the best! Such a grumpy, thoughtful bastard of a being ❤️

[@lilithcal]

Ironic that Disney sued Marvel over their representation of Howard the Duck, leading to Howard now being drawn with trousers. Now Disney owns Howard in the Marvel acquisition.

[@StellaFangX]

Why they didn't pull an Howard and Donald Duck's crossover yet? Did they or not.

[@retrofan4963]

Big irony for sure. Disney tried to sue Howard the Duck leading the creator of Howard Steve Gerber to fight back in court since he wants to keep Howard's original design and Marvel changes Howard's design including adding trousers or else Disney will sue. Even though, Disney now owns Howard the Duck because they now own Marvel as a whole, Disney still wants Howard's design to be distinguishingly different from Donald.

[@StellaFangX]

@@retrofan4963 Well, they try to not look cheap with Howard and Donald, despite the fact their formulas are already known to be cheap since years.

[@AreHan1991]

Yes, I remember well those comix! Disney’s attack boosted the popularity of the series enormously, everybody loved their solution 😂🤣

[@garretamiller]

"Write yourself out of a paper bag". I like it.

[@ingvarhallstrom2306]

Philosophically, it's basically "Waiting for Godot" with booze, hangovers, and eternal sexual frustration.

[@edlundart]

That’s very well put, hahah!

[@RThyrring]

Couldn’t agree more! 😂

[@dangerousdays2052]

I like the part where he called the cop a fascist and kicked his car 😂😂

[@edlundart]

He is one unafraid duck 😂

[@SteamingPerson]

Well the joke is that he's disappointed Sweden isn't more fascist so he can justify his protest. The comic panel is from a page where he joins a protest (I can't remember what the purpose of it was or if it was given) and then tries to start trouble, kicking the cop car and hurling abuse at a policeman who just calmly asks him to go back to his protesting. Ends with Arne walking away disappointed that he doesn't live in a country like Chile or other politically unstable countries of the time.

[@maskharat]

@@edlundart I'd say he's Arne Goose with a prosthetic duck beak. His behavior and own beak certainly reminds me of a goose

[@alinm4844]

Based duck!

[@MadMarx-ws5bp]

​@SteamingPerson It's a very funny strip! I love how the policeman treats him like an angry child.

[@sharpeningtheaxe]

This was a fantastic video! You’re a great storyteller. Thanks for making this!

[@edlundart]

Thanks so much for the compliment, and thanks for watching and commenting! Your kindness is appreciated.

[@einosalama]

In finland it still has 110 000 subscribers and is still the most subscribed weekly magazine. In 2008 the peak subscriber count for Aku Ankka (Donald Duck) was 325 000 subscribers (6.5% of the population at the time). It was also a staple at every classroom in Finland

[@edlundart]

Finland is really well represented in this comments section, which is probably another sign of the strength of Donald/Aku over there! Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@AndersJackson]

But do you have a translation of Arne Anka to Finish? Or do you all read it in Swedish?

[@einosalama]

@@AndersJackson we do have a translation! While swedish is an official language many Finn's aren't that great at it (me included) so we usually have a translated version. Arne Anka (in Finnish just, Aarne Ankka) is one of those translated works

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@einosalama Interesting then that duck, Ankka, in Finnish is basically same like in Swedish, not like in Estonian. Seems a borrowed word.

[@TheOdMan]

Arne Anka, the pride of Sweden! I loved this in the 90's and I had no clue it was still being produced, I need to re-connect to the Arne-verse.

[@DacusMaIus]

Without Donald, no Christmas made me remember my childhood! Grew up in Germany during the late 90s. Every year, the movie 'The Last Unicorn' played on Christmas eve for at least a decade!

[@ONIYAUTJA]

Great movie… must watch.

[@Lilldjur]

I was suprised (and happy) when this came up into my feed. Growing up with Arne Anka and being inspiration to my own artistic exploreation, this made my sunday morning. Thank you.

[@edlundart]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

[@jayconstantine5928]

As an artist, my hatred of the Disney Corporation grows with each new story I hear about them. . . it's a wonder they didn't say "It was a Donald Duck mask, and get the copyright enforced that way. . .

[@bradentheman1373]

Me being an artist with family who works at disney 💀 i can’t escape it.

[@DavidLeeIngersoll]

Hahahahahhah! This is a much happier end than that of Howard the Duck - forced to wear pants and ultimately owned by Disney.

[@edlundart]

Forcing someone to wear pants is so Disney - I’m surprised they haven’t forced their own duck to do it 😂

[@marcelo-ramos]

The pants were immediately dropped though.

[@benktlofgren4710]

@@marcelo-ramos So Gunter has nothing to do with it? No Pantalones song 😂

[@jargien240]

"Skål Kosmonauter!" Damn I'd almost fogotten about Arne Anka. We had a couple of collection magazines in the bathroom during my days as a student living in a shared appartment. My cousin was the one who introduced me to Arne and I pretty much quit reading Donald Duck at that point. Could be because Arne hit closer to home with my whole lifestyle at that time in life.

[@langbo9999]

Absolutely The Art of Scandinavian countries I know i'm danish 🇩🇰 We f****** love dark humor in Scandinavia.

[@h.a.9880]

I bet Disney was really salty that they didn't come up with the name Arne Anka themselves.

[@Ciprian-Amarandei]

Disney that stole every story he ever animated

[@Formalec]

Smart gjort av dem. Det finns kreativt utrymme för att ha mer än en eller till och med ett par serie anka.

[@CrossfacePanda]

I read Arne Anka as a kid, borrowing a big hardcover book from my school library that collected the comic’s run from 1983-1995. Most of it flew over my head (I wasn’t exactly the target demographic), but as an avid duck comics reader most of my life up to that point, I was facinated by the mere existence of the comic, as it almost felt like you were reading something forbidden.

[@edlundart]

I think in a way that's how it felt to me as well. Some of my most-loved media took this path in my life.

[@MrJontte79]

I remember reading Arne Anka in the Pyton magazine as a teenager. Good times! 😁

[@AndersJackson]

There are still new Albums produced. I guess you would like them too.

[@SaddieMoon]

When I saw the thumbnail, I thought this video was about Daffy trying to stray too close to Disney’s lawyers.

[@ecneicsPhD4554]

Sorry. I was so engrossed in the beautiful artwork that I missed the story partially. The artwork is so classic.

[@edlundart]

This is something I wish I emphasized more - the artwork is superb. I noticed when researching this that there is quite a lot of stylistic drift, especially in the early years, but that’s just kind of charming. Once it finds its footing, it’s one of the most beautifully drawn comics I’ve seen. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@ecneicsPhD4554]

​​@@edlundartOh it is fine. The artwork speaks for itself anyway. It has that Calvin and Hobbes kind of sketchwork to it. I really like that kind of drawing style. It really sells the comic strip kind of vibe which I prefer.

[@edlundart]

​@@ecneicsPhD4554 I agree, Calvin and Hobbes is also beautifully drawn!

[@mateuszzdyb3547]

its okay, you can rewatch it.

[@ecneicsPhD4554]

@@mateuszzdyb3547 I did.

[@tenzhitihsien888]

Interesting. Reminds me more of Howard the Duck than Donald.

[@edlundart]

Good point! BTW, I just looked up Howard the Duck on Wikipedia to see if it mentions anything about Disney's feelings about that character. Interesting tidbit: "The Walt Disney Company contacted Marvel in 1977 over concerns that the visual design of Howard infringed on their trademark for Donald Duck. Marvel agreed to a redesign of the character by Disney artists. A key feature of the redesign was that the character would wear pants."

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

Between Donald, Daffy, Howard, and tons of others, one has to wonder what exactly the appeal of cartoony anthropomorphic ducks is.

[@korwynias_yt]

I wish the MCU would had just went ahead and made the Howard movie they were planning and just make a list of what was bad about the old movie so as to keep things in line.

[@BrendanKOD]

@@edlundart Actually as I understand it, when Disney sent the cease and desist lettter, they also sent a sample redesign as a "This is a duck that looks as little like donald as possible." and Marvel just used that, with the comics transitioning to the look with an issue built off 'the league of decency demands you wear pants!" To this day, ever time Howard appears someone comments "It's a duck wearing pants!" with Howard responding "I've always worn pants (According to my lawyers)" Though there's also the 90's crossover event where in a thrown together crossover featuring Spiderman, Howard, Destroyer Duck and Savage Dragon, in the savage dragon part of the crossover it's stated that Destroyer mannaged to grab the real Howard, leaving a clone behind and so plastic surgery time, though with the main emphasis being to dye Howard's feathers green so he could go on as Leonard the Duck. Crazy story, though a bit obscure due to the Image books being delayed, and Marvel not acknowledging anything.

[@edlundart]

@@BrendanKOD Very interesting! There is much more to this Howard the Duck story than I realized, thanks for filling me in.

[@itsjustameme]

Another thing that may surprize americans is that it is Donald Duck and not Mickey Mouse who gets his own magazine in Scandinavia. Mickey is after all almost the embodyment of Disney around the world - well not in Scandinavia. Mickey is too perfect and he frankly seems a bit too clean and booring for scandinavian audiences. Donald Duck by contrast is actually interesting - he has a real life he is trying to live, he has money problems, anger problems, a somewhat fickle girlfriend he is trying to please, as well as problems with living up to be the parent he ought to be - real problems that people can relate to, but dialed up to 10.

[@edlundart]

Yes, well said! Donald is a good character in that he isn’t all good 😀 Thanks for watching and adding your voice!

[@unspeakableoaf]

I seem to recall there was a brief period Mickey had his own magazine too, long after Donald had entrenched himself in Scandinavian culture. It didn't last long, or the sieve I use for a brain is leaking again.

[@SvengelskaBlondie]

As a Swede, I completely agree. Ive never been fond of Mickey cause he feels way too squeaky clean, he's too morally perfect and that makes it boring (Mickey barely or doesn't even have any flaws, if he does they don't matter). I love Donald duck cause he has real struggles, he has real flaws and he feels much more like a real character as opposed to some 1 dimensional stick like Mickey.

[@itsjustameme]

@@SvengelskaBlondie not only does he not have flaws. He barely has a personality.

[@UlfKristersson-vx8it]

Yea, but Janne långben is pretty good as well IMO

[@maxordman4100]

Very cool comic history video Arna Duck sounds like an amazing character. Good job telling the story too.

[@edlundart]

Thank you!

[@motodotsh]

this deserves to go viral, this is great. i need this comic

[@andreascarlberg3998]

Yes, you do! There are plenty of disturbed and wonderful swedish cartoons. Enrich your life.

[@martinhumble]

Read the comics with Arne here in Sweden as a kid. Still have them somewhere, together with - I guess - a thousand DD magazines from 1950 and forwards. Love them both.

[@edlundart]

I'm the same - both ducks have been meaningful in my life!

[@narmale]

“The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier its laws are” is a quote by Marcus Tullius Cicero the fact that this works... a fictional character, drawing a fictional mask and is now legally accepted... shows it was bad even 40 years ago

[@kayleevalli2681]

Wonderful David vs. Goliath story, thank you!

[@GentPix]

Can't believe I'd live to see the day where Arne Anka is discussed outside of Swedish KZbin. I wrote, directed and starred in a little bootleg play based on the alcoholic ducky, myself. Great video!

[@edlundart]

Wow, that’s awesome! Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏

[@eleson00]

"The dance floor is for those that can't afford hanging in the bar." //Arne Anka

[@lolledopke]

The language in that legal letter is really old fashioned, even for 1990.

[@SuperCartoonist]

At first I thought this video was going to be about Howard Duck.

[@derpapito1391]

Never heard of it, but this is brilliant.

[@WarBeasty]

I remember back in the 80's, I had an actual Donald Duck comic book where he accidentally got high on ether, tripped balls and crashed his car.. I remember thinking it was hilarious.

[@edlundart]

Hahah, that sounds good!

[@MrAstrojensen]

I remember that one!!

[@TommyLikeTom]

It's a really neat detail that you decided to talk and look like Elmer Fudd for this video

[@edlundart]

Shhh. Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits.

[@melange78]

I think the Butterick's mask moment was the point where I religiously fell in love with Arne Anka because it was like "double inversion meta" or so meta that it became real.

[@edlundart]

That’s well put!

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

Duck comic or Aku Ankka had a weekly run of 325 000 in finland at best, now it has dropped to some 110 000. Artists like Carl Barks and Don Rosa caused queues around the blocks when they came signing their new albums.

[@hnorrstrom]

Don Rosa still draws crowds last time he was in Stockholm at Comicon his lines was greater than everybody else combined.

[@jenslempke7883]

Proud to be swedish and fellow swede with Charlie Christensen 🇸🇪. Arne Anka (duck) is a masterpiece that I identified a bit with as a 20-year(-ish) young man, while visiting the same pubs and clubs in Stockholm that are mentioned in the magazine. 😄

[@222Cooler]

6:40 saddam hussein hiding spot.

[@virkots]

I'm Swedish and when I was a kid me and my two best friends were obsessed with Donald Duck (Kalle Anka), probably me more than them. We used to trade old issues of Kalle Anka & C:O with each other and go to our local "loppis" to buy old issues. I can't think about my childhood without thinking of Kalle Anka. Kalle Anka was everything for a brief while.

[@sirenia755]

I like the way he tell Disney to stuff your copyright, lol.

[@kevinmorrice]

so hes a duck that looks like a bird pretending to be a duck

[@shanxmonappa870]

Enjoyed the way you narrated the whole story.

[@edlundart]

Thank you, much appreciated!

[@christianmuller2177]

Charlie Christensen, Sir, humanity will never be able to thank you enough for what you have done. I am in awe! And deeply gereatful. And I may be speaking a bit in jest, but not nearly as much as one might think. And thanks to you, elundart, for telling this story. It made my day, which was a sad one until i "met" you here and heard your story.

[@edlundart]

Awesome comment, thanks! 🙏

[@Herfinnur]

I just realised, weirdly, that if I where to make a top ten list of my favourite comics universes, I would put Arne Anke there as well as Howard the Duck and Don Rosa’s Scrooge McDuck stories!

[@edlundart]

A lot of ducks in your world! 😁

[@TracksWithDax]

Oh man this is hilarious! Im seriously impressed something so simple worked. I'm sure it made for an interesting plot arc too

[@terraforever]

Intriguing story, and well told!

[@edlundart]

Thank you, appreciate it!

[@PATWO]

what a plot twist! Priceless :) we need more artists like these :) Thanks for the share :)

[@edlundart]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and commenting. 🙏

[@sylvisterling8782]

I still have my Howard the Duck for President button! I think I will wear it to the polling place as a silent protest! After all... Howard IS "Anything but Donald!"

[@edlundart]

Love that! There is almost a tradition in Norway that a few people write in Donald Duck as their (protest) vote. I wonder if anyone ever voted for Arne.

[@STEFANiSAKSSON]

@@edlundart It's a tradition in Sweden too. Actually there is a registered "Donald Duck party" nowadays, so the votes are valid. Not that many votes though; 135 or so last election for parliament.

[@edlundart]

@@STEFANiSAKSSON Hah, interesting!

[@odraciskatube7725]

i love that they still dare to go against the grain it shows backbone.

[@Holammer]

It's not the first time Donald Duck was parodied in Sweden (or norway), Donald & Disney stuff was regularly parodied in Pyton magazine. The Swedish roleplaying system Drakar & Demoner had ducks as a playable race and the illustrations in the rulebook looked pretty similar to Donald. The comic ended and returned after a hiatus where Arne is divorced and struggling with middle age. It's not as fun as it used to be and I think it's because the artist lives in Spain and lost some of his connection to Sweden. So he compensates with a LOT of Trump jokes.

[@edlundart]

Oh yes, I bought a fair share of Pyton magazines in my day!

[@ano_nym]

Jikes... a sad end.

[@rappscallion3238]

The latest edition (2023) of Drakar and Demoner (or Dragonbane) still has ducks as a playable race although they are called Mallards in the English editionen. A proud tradition that keeps going. :)

[@Pottan23]

The antropomorphic *mallards* are ill-tempered and quick to anger as well 😂

[@SvengelskaBlondie]

@@rappscallion3238 Was quite a few years since I last played Drakar och Demoner, back then it was called Drakar och Demoner: Trudvang (Trudvang being the name of the world that the tabletop rpg took place in). Quite enjoyed it, my favourite character was a warrior smith dwarf that specialized in using troll strike with two handed axes. Edit: My dwarf was called Dvorgel Stonefist, he was Buratja Dwarf that had troll strength (+4 strength) and ok endurance (+1).