How This Teenager Built the Best Offense in Madden

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[@SpruceGooseTV]

After you watch this video, check out my gameplay using Dez's scheme! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHnIm6OHfLaenZI

[@randymcfallon]

This just shows how far Madden has diverged from the real life game it was meant to represent.

[@BainesMkII]

EA only pretends Madden is a realistic simulation in order to keep that NFL exclusive license. Being more arcade-ish and even kind of broken makes them more money than trying to make the game a realistic simulation. (Which is why some argue that modern Madden gameplay-wise are *worse* than 10-20 year old football games, including old Madden titles.)

[@954buggy]

@@BainesMkII I feel like Madden peaked on PS2... Never enjoyed the gameplay as much since

[@seanm1319]

I miss the Madden 2010-14 generation. A lot more variety with plays that aren’t just “filler” for the playbook. I also miss being able to hurry up all the way down the field without having time melt off the clock to auto run down (which really can’t be turned off).

[@BiggestOfDaddies]

Maden 08 was the last decent madden game. And it still wasn't that great. 2K Sports was doing amazing things that blew EA out of the water back in 2005. And rather than try and compete with them and build a good game, they bought out the rights so no one could compete with them, and then just keep polishing the same turd every year.

[@marcusmaynard1526]

@@BiggestOfDaddiesbro 2k games suck too? Idk why everyone acts like they are heroes.

[@woozy2k846]

@@marcusmaynard1526 2K games suck NOW - their nfl 2k games were pretty great, but i agree. 2K is awful, they’re basically doing the same thing madden is now but with basketball

[@sandyreeves1013]

Sad isn’t it.

[@basket472]

@@marcusmaynard1526 play 2k23 offline and tell me it sucks. It's so sim and life like In movement it's crazy. Dumbasses breaking the game online is a different story.

[@cryptojuicer]

Coming out in a random formation and then audibling to your real play and snapping the ball is soo smart

[@Madden24burner]

Was confused why that was a highlight

[@R.O157]

Not trying to toot my own horn but I’ve been doing this since the beginning of time so the fact a pro player is doing it gives me hope I’m semi good at the game 😂

[@JonDoe-wy1sr]

How much money have u won?

[@douchebagme]

Real Madden players always audible to their real play at the line...y because back when u played on the screen, your opponent could see what play n formation u picked 😂😂😂

[@SlickRickMedia]

@@douchebagme man I remember always smoking my dad when I was like 8 and he would be sooooooo pisssed and yelling at me for laughing and now I get it I’d be pissed if my 8 year old beat me no damn way 🤣

[@pokes404]

I love how you can throw bullet passes to receivers well before they should be expecting it in their route, yet they can instantly adjust and go up for the catch. It's like they have eyes in the back of their heads. Meanwhile, DBs who are looking straight into the backfield are so slow to react to passes that sometimes they aren't even out of their break by the time the receiver has caught the ball.

[@seshansmith7690]

Good ole Madden shit lol. Every year there's some sort of exploit like that

[@lottoguy6457]

It’s usually just glitches that make plays work

[@zacharybrown3486]

How this teenager built the best offense in Madden 1. Embrace the meta Awesome

[@RJA_Jake]

isnt that what every teenager does on madden?

[@sethmoyer]

Step 2: Make up a fake acronym for the word "meta" that isn't actually what it means?

[@eastern_fox1238]

@@sethmoyer The gaming definition of Meta is separate from the dictionary definition of meta. This isn't uncommon in the english language.

[@CollinMaker]

@@eastern_fox1238 No, it's the same. It is short for "Metagame" aka "Metagame, hypergame,[1] or game about the game, is an approach to a game that transcends or operates outside of the prescribed rules of the game, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game." The game they are playing is a football game, the metagame is outthinking players and strategies that transcend the game created by developers.

[@SillyTwat12]

@@CollinMaker It's not that deep

[@zampy8706]

So wheel routes and high balls makes you good. This madden is so much worse than last years

[@derekhoward3155]

last years was literally two wheel routes, escape artist and deep posts 💀

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

That’s actually how the NFL is now though so it’s realistic. Jump balls and routes to the flat are bigger than ever.

[@josephroach9793]

@@MrRyan-wu4jx true this is basically the dolphins offense

[@nahfam9012]

Every madden ever has had it’s fair share of cheese

[@bullock4211]

I don't know why people keep buying this trash game every year

[@booker4984]

Watching that dude just throw high balls is absolutely cringe

[@Thedukeoftravelchannel]

Ayyy bud good stuff man !! The break down of everything was on point!

[@rgmadden980]

This content is amazing. Keep up the good work Spruce!

[@the_realmizz]

People that were playing competitively when Madden ‘06 dropped, with formation shift AND smart routing. The creativity was unmatched, craziest tournament scene in Madden.

[@Christopher012]

I’ve played madden my whole life but these last 2 ruined it 100% for me. I don’t even play it nor will I even buy it. Everyone just uses the same plays over and over and it’s not football nor is it fun. Madden is trash. People ruined it. Like everything else.

[@SkolZone]

^"how this teen put together unstoppable cheese on madden 23"^

[@alexbishara2442]

Bro keep posting these. They’re so fun to watch and informational!

[@wavymoh]

appreciate the in depth breakdowns

[@Thomas-tm8el]

Fantastic analysis, kept me very engaged

[@coachryzeify658]

So underrated! Keep up the good work!

[@thegridironguide]

And that’s why madden is toxic. 6 plays that’s not real football. Yes you can come back to the plays that work but in real life if you keep running the same play eventually they adjust

[@perpetuallyoffended2561]

This is exactly why I'll never buy another madden because EA refuses to fix this

[@Mr.Mustgohard]

So build a defense to stop them. Y’all trash

[@brandonruoff1468]

It’s a video game brodie not real life

[@brandonruoff1468]

God I hate tht I can’t build in real life like I can in Fortnite that’s y I dont play it anymore

[@H1storybr3akdown]

@@brandonruoff1468 😂😂

[@jameshall8889]

incredible content. really well done. High quality breakdown here. Thanks

[@thatruth1946]

Great breakdown!

[@GameKollector]

Funny these guys are considered pros but in fact are just cheesing their way to catches with bad reads, but using the games broken mechanics to catch everything. Not to mention running the same plays over and over again like this is Tecmo Bowl. At the 2:17 mark the running back is wide open down there middle for a TD but he throws a "high ball" into triple coverage instead..... Ya... Great read there

[@akovacs1785]

Good call

[@co81385]

I love these breakdowns!

[@ARMTOAST]

meta is a prefix from greek that means “across” or “along with”. it became used in the 80s to create terms like “metaverse” and “metagame”, which is what meta is shorthand for in the gaming context. “most effective tactics available” is a backronym, like when people say Ford stands for “Found On Road Dead”. it’s not the actual source of the term it’s just entertaining or educational great vid though very fun peeking into other competitive games and how they operate

[@southwest7977]

Still more complicated than Matt Canada’s offense.

[@ArchibaldEdits]

I'd like to see him play on regs - so much of what he and others do is just not possible when you don't have 99s everywhere capable of doing anything. I don't respect MUT at all.

[@SpruceGooseTV]

I promise you these guys are the best in the world regardless of game mode. They play MUT because that's where the money is.

[@TheGillenium]

Lol this guys so salty

[@mightymike5270]

@@SpruceGooseTV agreed but having 99ovr everywhere makes a HUGE difference there’s no true bad players and no mismatches you can expose. That’s why Agro catching works with tall Wideouts it’s the only true scheme people can expose because a 99ovr doesn’t matter when your dude 7inches taller than the safety or corner and your guy is a 99ovr too. I saw some really good dimes but most of it was just using the game against itself to win.

[@yaboiteezy8213]

@@mightymike5270 yea then u would have everyone running the same reg teams then youd complain about that aswell, pretty sure they already had a regs tourney and if not the big money is in mut, where people can create their team the way they want instead of being limited to low overalls

[@alexneal5036]

Nobody even close to 99s hood best player was a 92😂

[@sethtate2079]

NCAA 14 had those rocket catches. Was really a glitch. This reminds me of that.

[@CaesarDelgado]

When people say…I’m living my best life…I assume they’re watching these videos 😀

[@Owlz0nly]

MVP

[@RaiderProductions9]

Thanks For This Video

[@KoalafiedOtter]

Thank you, Goose!

[@rn5598]

I don’t even play madden and I’m hooked on these videos

[@TobrookSky]

This is why I hate the competitive Madden scene. It's all about META and stacking your team with the exact players/abilities that you desire. I'm sure every competitive sport would love to be able to abuse the best players and tactics for wins. I just wish competitive Madden was about knowledge and skills. But alas, my 5 year old son can drive the field with high passes to tall receivers because that's how dumb and broken this game is. I have been playing since 2001 and I can beat just about every person I go up against, but if I went competitive then I would get META'd to death by scrubs who don't understand actual scheme. So infuriating.

[@ethanreed8400]

i really wish we'd stop giving this game attention.. maybe then they'd make a decent game

[@WlSEMANGaming]

Everyone saying “bruh it’s a video game.” It’s a licensed SIMULATION game. It’s supposed to be realistic and true to the nfl. If they don’t wanna make it that way then someone else should get the license and madden can keep making this arcade game

[@rdizzy1]

It is true to the NFl, pretty much, this guys "meta" looks a lot like the Dolphins on offense.

[@pele2157]

These guys are pros for a reason they put some much time into this game

[@kevindavid1385]

He won because madden doesn't take much skill. Just high point to tall receivers and run overload blitz.

[@alexneal5036]

Ain’t that simple

[@RyTrapp0]

The skill is in exploiting the game better than anyone else

[@jacksonbrown16]

Basically won by running cheesy plays after calling an audible

[@LakeSuperior090]

i dont play madden at all, dont understand these plays, but still watched thanks to your great video. Thanks

[@C20H25N3oh]

Like the manning cast . Do any KZbins like this guy do live nfl games?

[@xxxTripl3Troubl3xxx]

They brought back the "jetpack" catch from Madden 2004?!?!? Definitely going to have to get back to playing Madden.

[@larsr6466]

Title should say "Why Madden is a laughably horrendous football simulator"

[@n1trxg3n46]

Cheese plays 🥱

[@ac4185]

I remember all you had to do was run Barry Sanders up the middle. He always got at least 3 yards. Once you had the ball, you could waste the whole half 😭

[@mr.fairplay4800]

AHHHHH! The good old days. Times were kinder and simplistic then...🤟

[@jdawggrocefus5595]

So he used madden bullshit to win a madden tournament 😂

[@fatalplays3612]

I have been using “bench” since madden 20 and would absolutely rip any defense up especially when having hot route master on your quarterback allowing you to open anyone up.

[@dboii9741]

Bench is a instant td or 40 yard gain

[@mikeybmore5860]

You break it down like gruden bud. Nice job!!!!

[@Freddy-kw5hq]

I don’t see no skill in this offense all high ball throws

[@classicdokkan6251]

still won 😂

[@looneytune6062]

@@classicdokkan6251 that’s because madden mechanics is fucked

[@seerdoesstuff]

These are my favorite videos

[@gomer921]

This video is a perfect example of why madden is so terrible these days

[@N0TYALC]

Madden is bad these days, but this video has nothing to do with it. Literally 100% of video games that have an active following are dissected and exploited to this degree at the highest levels of competition. Go watch a speed run of any game, you’ll notice that they aren’t playing it anything like the way it’s meant to be played.

[@workbirdygaming]

What's so genius about running the same play over and over again this game is broken and the developers should be a shame for letting people play this product for a cash prize

[@joshsiddoway1223]

i won the superbowl in Madden 95 with the falcons by running one offensive play and putting deion sanders on the outside d-line. Sanders was also the kick returner

[@ybyoungsta]

What abilities help with agg catching is it deep out or deep in?

[@PierceF.C.]

That's the difference between Madden and real football. In the NFL, players don't get beat the same way twice, and there are defensive schemes to stop offensive plays. If an NFL team only had 6 plays in real life, they would get destroyed.

[@goodmaro]

So the next version should incorporate heuristics.

[@Mcdun325]

It's because the defensive logic has been and continues to be atrocious.

[@N0TYALC]

This is the most delusional shit I’ve ever heard, fam. Players get beat the same way twice, three times, several dozens of times, thousands of times.

[@connorwitdahoodie4418]

how did he get those cowboy uniforms. was that something from a earlier season that i missed out on?

[@GodIAm]

every year somebody finds something wrong with the game and wins the championship with it...lmfao..

[@davidhowell1415]

This dude played my old offense in the early 2000’s this is hilarious

[@sea6554]

idk what it is about the play slants in standered pass but it feels like its a easy catch everytime

[@fieryjalapenos4442]

If this was a fighting game, we’d call him a spammer. But since it’s a football game it the best offensive scheme ever. SMH…

[@AlwaysXO_]

I only play franchise with a strict playcooldown. It’s made the game funner for me.

[@RH-xs8gz]

Art Monk on the post route. That sounds funny.

[@SneezyIsGaming]

Oh so he won with cheese not skill. Good to know.

[@SherwoodSavage225BR]

New sub 💪🏽

[@friohenri9748]

Have no idea on whats going on, it popped up randomly on my home page, but proud to say i watched it till the end with not skips

[@SpruceGooseTV]

Let's go!

[@adriansasu1150]

Rocket catch!!!

[@benjaminwerth]

was doing the high ball agro receiver thing back in 2004. How is this a special thing. Do most people not do that now? Same with the last minute audible stuff. I haven't played since then so not sure how it has changed. In any case, fun nostalgia.

[@striderhanzo]

So - the kid went with the Tecmo bowl style offense. Smart. it worked in '88. it works in 2023.

[@serchlocs2841]

Glitch the AI and you're good

[@abeed87]

this is high level simulation football in Madden. LMfAOOOOOOOO

[@necronomicon8798]

this is so impressive

[@carasc5]

If anyone you know is thinking of buying Madden, show them this video so they spend their money on something worth playing

[@billjones8950]

Bought it for $15 and still feel cheated lmao

[@BiggestOfDaddies]

You may as well have titled this video "why madden sucks". Madden is advertised as an NFL football simulator. It's simply unrealistic that anyone can run the same play over and over again and not get punished for it in any real game of football. Instead, Madden just keeps polishing the same turd every year and you lemmings keep giving them your money. I did too for years until I wised up. And we're never going to get a quality football game from EA until you start demanding better.

[@booboo4ever24]

As someone whos been playing since Madden 01, I think I could win or atleast beat some of these guys. How do I join?

[@davidg1612]

At least he didn't resort to putting left handed punters in at QB to hand the ball off on every play.

[@WilliamCMartin-]

What playbook is championship in?

[@nimmodhg]

i was confused the whole time lol

[@FedorMachida]

I want to see him play TD, lol This kid is the real deal.

[@Madden24burner]

Pay me to play madden full time and I’m dusting these kids

[@LouieOcean2]

Do it

[@adamdavis5312]

Yea please do join .. show these newbs what’s up

[@cnna12392]

Madden has been a joke for quite some time. I’ve never been so bored watching these “pros” play.

[@adamdavis5312]

I didn’t even get 3 min in and went right to the comment section .. what a joke

[@jessicasumait7707]

so good 🔥☺

[@alvarosierralta5569]

I dont watch football, i dont play madden, i watch the full video and didnt undertand a thing. Good video btw

[@laemert09]

As a football coach madden is a joke

[@philjackson1428]

Stop hating on the man. He played it safe and kept it simple and stuck to what worked and didn't try to get fancy. My hats off to him.

[@tommorris3035]

I would run the bench route in madden 2016 with the patriots switch eldeman to the left as a slot wideout he would be open and if not I would look to the running back and he would be open

[@XoeCox]

This is how the NFL plays every Sunday.

[@jordanmccallaneph6-129]

Can anybody tell me how to hire a offensive of coordinator. My franchise won’t let me hire a offensive coordinator. I can hire a defensive coordinator but everytime I try to do it for the offenses side it takes me to a loading screen and then says there is no data to display? “ i’m tired of this glitch“

[@aaronschwartz3782]

So the best player is the player who exploits the agg catch glitch.

[@tomtenak4967]

13 game win streak after learning the first 3 plays.

[@checkillo]

I don't even play madden and I find this so cool. Makes me wanna play.

[@thewrestlingbros7055]

I always run the bench every time

[@tomtenak4967]

I learned the first three plays and am scoring 24+ points per game. After thinking I was terrible, I learned technique and wowoooowooww.

[@Beanbag59]

@spruce goose what tv do u have

[@baconspam]

I have never seen "meta" used as an initialism. I've always seen it used as a shortened version of the term "metagame" or "metagaming", which is using outside information of the game while playing the game. Most players use it when talking about what characters, items, or builds are popular for a particular game. Is the "META" initialism a Madden community thing?

[@ChristopherPuzey]

That would be an acronym because you pronounce it. But meta isn’t an acronym so it doesn’t really matter.

[@short600]

Guess people have made a backronym of meta. It’s effective in explaining what it means so I don’t think it’s bad to use but people should also consider the original meaning (metagaming as you identified) as it goes beyond just tactics in game

[@mailonwilliams6864]

Me and my cousin use to kill with this offense and 4 verticals damn haven't played Madden since ps4 early days lol

[@p3rrypm]

So he didn’t use a Traps 5 6 or Gun Trips 2 TE sets at all? Those are killer plays with a lot of RPO sets to keep the D off balance.

[@nicholaskeyes7633]

I can't tell if the M.E.T.A. abbreviation is sarcasm or a legitimate misunderstanding.

[@martellw22]

High pass. Aggressive catch ✔️

[@GinnyHorn]

How to become better madden player: Stop supporting this garbage company EA.

[@emock7241]

U really embraced that last tip lol u ran one play every play last time I played u

[@njr5698]

So the best players in madden are just cheesers using the same play and exposing in game glitches

[@Purkinje90]

meta = metagame, which refers to playing the game while accounting for external factors strategic trends within the game