How To Actually Get Hired In 2024

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Landing a developer job used to be quite easy. As long as you were a decent programmer you could land a high paying job at a respectable tech company. Over the last few years, though, this has drastically changed and now landing a tech job is increasingly difficult. That is why in this video I go over the main tips you need to keep in mind to ensure you get more interviews and are able to land your dream job.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - The Problem
02:25 - Tip #1
03:45 - Tip #2
05:37 - Tip #3
06:49 - Tip #4
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[@nestor-martinez]

1) Quit web dev. 2) Start a KZbin channel. 3) Tell others how to get web dev jobs. 4) Profit.

[@Daniel-nb3kk]

Checkmate!

[@JustinLietz]

@@Daniel-nb3kkwell this guy has a job haha

[@user-vx6mn6pv7h]

Forced mate@@Daniel-nb3kk

[@ImmyYousafzai]

And be happy with 3 views per video. (only 1% of creators go to the top)

[@JustinLietz]

@@ImmyYousafzai you have to be happy with that and not be surprised if it takes you years to get anywhere

[@threeone6012]

*Step 1)* Build time machine. *Step 2)* Go back to 2010 and get hired as Jr. Developer. Researching time travel tonight.

[@anasouardini]

Pretty accurate.

[@threeone6012]

Asking for recommendation for good time travel bootcamp.

[@IamdaonestHUB]

Sounds legit

[@antsmasherjack]

Step 3) Put all your money into Bitcoin.

[@chrissame]

Great Scott!

[@D2Synua]

Trying to get hired as a junior frontend developer in 2023-2024 is the most insufferable thing I've done in my life.

[@zedibs]

I have graduated on july 2023, still looking for a job. It's driving me crazy. I barely get responses or any opportunity. Really sucks

[@cosminandrei7760]

Idk about your country but in mine also is hard as fuck to get junior backend jobs, last year I had 1 year exp and had a lot of oportunities, this year with 2 years of exp I m searching for a new company and had only stupid conversations with even more retarded HR teens.

[@Shmack_]

@@zedibsyou might have to start working for someone for free to build a resume of projects. I got a startup to give me a chance on angel list. It was like a Facebook for dogs and it failed but that experience got me out of the “no professional experience” zone

[@DProgram-xb9pp]

They need atleast 3-5 year experience Someone ask for 6-8 year

[@smokingbuddha2771]

@@DProgram-xb9pp The years of experience they are asking for are already crazy enough, then you find some offers that clearly says they are looking for a junior frontend, but when you read the requirements, you realize they are looking for a junior frontend with 6-8 in backend. It's like they want to hire people to do two different jobs and pay for the least costly

[@patrykorowski4141]

After 14 months of learning, I give up. Now, I'm looking for something else to learn to change my terrible job for something acceptable. Good luck to all of you folks!

[@nicolasguillenc]

I am so sorry man. I hope that the next thing works and who knows, maybe in a few years you can try again.

[@illidan10]

You have done the right thing.

[@ahmadalkaati9408]

​@@illidan10Why?

[@ahmadalkaati9408]

@ilidan10 And what would advice someone to learn in IT generally instead of web development so it's easier to be be hired as a junior?

[@ahmadalkaati9408]

@patrykorowski4141What are you going to learn? Do you have any ideas?

[@nileshshetty2496]

The market is getting even worse now. Every other developer I asked for guidance said the same thing "accept whatever job comes your way" .

[@Handlebrake2]

Idk, seems like there's a lot of low tier ("self taught"front end) web devs who make me feel like Einstein.

[@denniszenanywhere]

A friend accepted a no paying job.

[@anasouardini]

Believe it or not, youtubers are still convincing people that it's nothing and they should join us as well 🤣

[@anasouardini]

If you can find it that is.

[@sarahfranco6802]

​@@Handlebrake2what makes you think that 🤔?

[@Andyclanclanclan]

Bro I have 5 years of professional front end experience, some of the time at a pretty big, reputable company. I just got laid off and I can't even get a damn Junior job. It's INSANE.

[@sarahfranco6802]

Wow. And do you know who are the ones surving in this awful market?

[@panwar2001]

​@@sarahfranco6802 the teaching professionals , cooks, businesses , 🤑 doctors, policemen, etc. Except engineer

[@_hudeifa23]

@@panwar2001 are you saying business is better than coding right know because i am really thinking to quit and start small business

[@panwar2001]

@@_hudeifa23 I am from India, here people had made education business which has large cost like 12000-13000 $ for a computer Science degree. I am in my 4th year of college and still struggling to get a job. I got my first internship through an offcampus hackathon. Carrer in this field depends on lot of hard work initially , later on with experience it may become easy to get a job. But other carrers are much good than this coding one , atleast there is peace ☮️ rather than sitting in front of laptop whole day..and applying

[@mikkun_]

​@@_hudeifa23 businesses are always better, but it really depends on how you handle it and how high it will get. Once you reached stability (having loyal customers, strong industry, and good niche) you won't go down fast, unless another pandemic hit.

[@Tessia-ERALITH73]

I applied for web dev Internships, and worked off to build a portfolio before getting a simple "Internship". Yes, I was rejected 500 times before I was hired

[@nishant_singh]

But the thig is that what if after trying 500 times also I am not hired...

[@rogerpantil5025]

hi can i see your portfolio?

[@berserker7091]

I always get rejected because I don't have experience, I work as a freelance. now I'm 30 and I felt I can't find jobs anymore when they ask for experience all i can give was my freelancing and they don't want that.

[@nishant_singh]

@@berserker7091 With age the energy starts decreasing...

[@JustIsTime890]

​@@berserker7091why they don't want freelance experience? What is the problem with that? Did they told you?

[@besllu8116]

I went back to cooking, making avg web developer salary with no stress in germanic part of EU. Still code for myself and looking oportunities to create something and make money but I do not believe I will apply for any job interviews. To get cooking job I literally just send email, one email and I get avg web dev salary, free apartman(meaning I have no expenses) and no stress. I drink coffee, eat cakes and do my job while talking about games and politics with pastry chef who is great college, and I doubt any programmer is on job less than 48h a week. Life without stress, with good sleep and a lot of free time. I is possible even outside IT.

[@panwar2001]

Wow ❤ such a great life .

[@middle-agedclimber]

Holy s... Sounds like a dream job to me.

[@braisedtoast9002]

How are you getting a free apartment?

[@almdrs]

You are blessed. Good for you!

[@Max-tq1ig]

That's pretty awesome. Congratulations! ⭐

[@glorynwaekpe1012]

Thank you for enlightening us about the job market. It is very frustrating to listen to people criticizing juniors dev for not doing more and expecting to land a job. We are trying very hard

[@anasouardini]

Finally someone who understands me.

[@avg_user-dd2yb]

Now iam wondering why tf I took this CS coure at uni iam about to graduate and the future seems dull.

[@christopherkrause337]

@@avg_user-dd2yb You will have a degree, your future isn't dull because you aren't like the rest. Work on projects now, while in uni and you're fine. By the time you're ready you will be more qualified than many of these self taughts that thought they didn't need fundamental cs knowledge. Pick something besides web is all I'll say. Maybe sys admin or ai dev

[@grzegorzplak5751]

How to be attractive? Be senior developer. Take money like junior developer. Excellent tip.

[@ck-dl4to]

Chinese.

[@rantab2443]

This is me lol😂

[@BrownStore]

Dude, your channel is by far the most helpful and informative KZbin has to offer. You are a godsend, my guy

[@randomwiwer1953]

the funny part is that 4 years at uni taught me less than 5% of the skills i need so i'd had to fight to learn everything by myself after graduation

[@TheCosmopolitanHefty]

same here man. They never taught anything good and their DSA was bad. And full stack in my college started in last sem of 3rd year which is such a less time. I mean college sucks for real.

[@psychic8872]

If you were able to learn new skills with the knowledge you got, then the uni did a good job.

[@fwdflashwebdesign]

Nothing compares to real projects, coding a full app for example going through the process you learn more from it than all those years of school :), this is why most quit when doing tutorials...

[@TheCosmopolitanHefty]

actually true@@fwdflashwebdesign

[@FrankysButtMoney]

Worked with a guy who had just graduated with a masters. Couldn't write a for-loop to save his life.

[@chinmayghule8272]

I think one of the main challenges is to survive the time period between losing your job and getting a new one. This is especially difficult if you're the only bread-winner in the family. You can upskill during that time but then you'll have to spend more time on it and won't be able to do another job for sustenance (like a blue collar job). On the other hand, if you focus doing your sustenance job, then you'll be able to spend less time on your upskilling, and the more you're away from the industry, the more difficult will it be to enter again.

[@tjcoledrumming5903]

This is my biggest struggle. I wake up at 4:30 (give myself time to wake up, starting stuff at 5) for skill work and personal projects before my day job starts at around 8. I have two kids who get up between 7:15 and 7:45 so I get maximum 2.5 hours per day normally. Just making commits to my GitHub religiously and applying whenever I have free time in the evening. I’m lucky to have a super lenient job. Something tells me that something will break at some point. I mean… you get out what you put into it, right?

[@chinmayghule8272]

@@tjcoledrumming5903 I don't know what to say bro. I'm nowhere as dedicated as you. I hope you get to work in whatever you're interested in. Keep grinding!

[@nevyanplamenov5409]

@@tjcoledrumming5903 Same here, except i put my 2/3 hours in the evening and most of my day in the weekends. My current job is physically intensive and it's simply impossible to go there sleepy as hell

[@christianjamesguevarra6257]

Yeah, I believe upskilling while working a sustenance, blue-collar job is only possible for someone single and not a family breadwinner assuming their sustenance job doesn't take too much time so they still have enough time to upskill through self-study.

[@jqb8686]

As someone who will be graduating this year in IT, watching todays job market makes me feel suciadal. Knowing that no matter how good I am, and no matter what I've learned this past 4 years, I'm no competion to someone who knows someone. This really bites me especially since for three years of my studies, all of our lectures and laboratories were remote.

[@alnes204]

Do not give up. Watch the video and find your way.

[@fwdflashwebdesign]

Well AI will take over soon so more bad news...

[@alnes204]

@@fwdflashwebdesign I'm also learning programming. Unfortunately, I discovered this interest too late. I definitely attribute this to the school system of my youth. I'm not kidding myself, it's going to be difficult to find a job. I am therefore planning to set up a web project first that I can grow into and with which I can advertise. Because it has never been as easy as it is today. I already use Ki myself, e.g. for data collection, etc. We as developers have to stick with it. I think patience is the way, there is no guarantee that it will work. It should also be fun...

[@anasouardini]

It's almost pure luck situation.

[@chrismachabee3128]

Please stop moaning. You heard what he said go meet and greet, and talk about all you know. Try and get leads. Get a business card to hand out and make connect. They tell you there is a whole universe of that going on at LinkedIn. But you have to study to know how to work that system, or maybe you just do it. You have to try first. Just coming out of school you mustn’t be discouraged before you even graduate. You're portfolio ready to go? Refreshing your knowledge daily? Then now it's time to sell. Sell what? Sell you. You can do it. I never had a problem with positivity, but last night there is a whole of positivity adjustment that show that people need to adjust themselves to be positive. It's like everything else you learn, learn to be positive. Google it, AI it, ChatGPT it, you are AI and ML literate aren’t you? You weren't exactly detailed in your initial information. That is the big thing now. AI for high tech companies is going to be like the high school diploma once was. I’m reading that although some jobs are being replaced they still need people and these people will need to how to use the GPTs. It's the thought just crossed my mind, you said you been studying for three years in IT? Dude, you just getting started. Suggestion if you can get an MA do that, at least if you can't get a job you can teach while you search, and maybe write a book or two. OK, keep your chin and keep that nose to the grindstone.

[@Eldalion99999]

I remember 2018, I was spammed with recruiters. Nowdays, its just better to go into construction lol

[@swojnowski453]

web dev is contruction ... of digital estates.

[@felix-ve8jk]

Construction is a terrible industry too. You're always competing for the bottom. Probably the quickest industry to get a job without much experience would be machine operating like CNC. And there are some carry over skills from computer programming. But you also need to be strong and work long hours...

[@Andyclanclanclan]

Yeah same here. I literally got annoyed at how many recruiters would hit me up.

[@N8X4TE]

It was the same for me around 2020, there was at least one recruiter in my inbox every week

[@alextucamood]

it's not better to go into construction. i've just quit my construction job in germany and i don't care what else i'll be doing but i believe everything else is better. I thought it would be only hard on the body so i could study something else on the side but hell no, i was completely wrong, it's hard on the body, mentally and also extremely stressful because of constant deadlines. Let's not talk about the environment which is populated by very low IQ individuals who scream and shout and just bring chaos. Never go in construction, whatever you do is better than that, construction is the last resort when you failed everything and don't want to starve.

[@AriRiri476]

Sheesh this video gives great insight into industry trends and demands. Everything is spot on. & thanks for being so transparent about the job hunt today and what it was like 4 years ago. I was lucky enough to land my first job as a dev in 2020 and luckily I’m still employed today. The advice in this video is consistent with my own opinions, too!

[@irsatakdeniz2293]

I was forced to use connections to get an unpaid internship in university, and I had a good coding background.

[@yonathanhailemelekot5238]

you are a bro that every developer needs

[@nunoclarib]

The crazy thing is, even if you have some experience working with teams in said projects and you also have a pretty good tech knowledge inside a working environment. It's still hard to get an interview! I've been rejected or ghosted for so many opportunities, it's really unfair I feel like.

[@antoniocapraro89]

Work today as a software developer is crazy... Lot of work and 0 gratitude for what you do, they pay you in agile and more work. I will not suggest to work in IT, was just a trap.

[@justcoder2868]

Thanks for this video Kyle, it is definitely a tough time out there at the moment but this video is offer some logical steps which I appreciate having verbalised.

[@creativegabe]

I've been in the game for 8 years and still can't find a mid-level job. I get to the final rounds and then get rejected. It's tough. I even get rejected for Jr roles smh. This market is complete shit right now. I am currently focusing on Freelance as it appears to be the new trend on the market sadly.

[@birzu382]

How is freelance, what skills you need for freelancing in web development

[@thecodecatalyst]

Where do you get freelance gigs?

[@akashnagaonkar]

On which technology do you work?

[@AbhishekSharma-ti4sn]

Feeling really sad for you :(

[@1haker]

Looks like skill issue

[@alejandroz1606]

Thank you so much for this video! I've been looking for a jobs for over a year now!

[@vojtechkochta6436]

3yrs ago i started with web development. for 2 yrs i wasn't able to get job. 2023 was game changer. I started web development on my own. My salary is twice bigger than average junior salary and i can always laugh loudly when HR calls me after 2 years if i'm still interested get their underpaid job.

[@djinstinct8866]

What do you mean you started on your own? :) Congrats btw!

[@vojtechkochta6436]

@@djinstinct8866 Yah, the greatest decision. Many companies r calling me they r looking for a junior dev. and they offers me like 1.5K salary. Im way more higher then 1.5 just this week

[@wywlf6912]

@@djinstinct8866 freelancing something like that i believe

[@BrianBeeby]

Glad there's a computer tech guru on YT who tells it straight. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Being over the hill compared to most kids fresh out of school, and having learned all about applying for and working for Big Tech and elsewhere in the "tech space," I'm glad I made the commitment to being self-employed.

[@nishant_singh]

How to be self employed ?

[@fwdflashwebdesign]

Its over, AI is taking over soon!

[@cloudstrife7083]

your videos are nice and relax and to the point nice to see compared many others online and you seem to know your shit which is great, im a sysadmin linux/winserver thinking about going back to programming this year (after 25years was doing C++) pushing some JS/React/Node etc and work 100% remotely and I live in canada your videos are helpful and fun, its nice too they cutted most of the baddies at the big company all the ppl who were just in it for the money or the fashion etc and kept the real one

[@Shaheer-xs5os]

Great content, respect for you Kyle!

[@TylerR909]

My tip is... be willing to be a contractor for a year or two. They can often be leveraged into a full-time gig. They usually have some form of health insurance, if not 401k contributions. It's not ideal, but as a temporary arrangement it's a great way to pull in a decent chunk of change while you build up some resume bulletpoints in search of something better. I had a killer internship in college but wasn't getting picked up by anyone after college despite having work experience, but then I was a contractor for ~1.5yr, turned that into a full time job, and am very happy with where my career has ended up since.

[@TheRealPingu]

Contracting is more lucrative than permanent roles where I'm at

[@ngndnd]

exccept no one is hiring junior contractors

[@atreides4911]

where would you find these kinds of jobs? any keywords to search?

[@swadams2]

That's exactly how I got my current job.

[@wassupbaby8634]

It's not just in tech. It's basically in most jobs. I graduated to be electrician and most companies don't trust newbies either. It's not like programming where you can be self taught and get a job. But to be electrician you have to have certification and graduation. Even after you find a job its like internship but you get paid like 1.5k to 2k a month. Then after a year or 2 you are able to work dependent and get paid more. My point is that it's natural that companies want a more experienced team. But I think it's also important to give newbies a chance to prove themselves and give them experience so that they can actually reach that "senior" title. Because eventually seniors will retire or change jobs.

[@LupoTosk96]

Seniors have it weirdly difficult to land a new job too. Either companies consider you too "arrogant" because you know all frameworks they're using, or not experienced enough because you haven't used ONE of these random frameworks, and when everything fits they revert what was offered in their job description. I applied because working remotely was a possibility and put my address on my application, I can't travel across half the country once a week because "everyone" has to come into the office and nobody will lol. Also in terms of juniors, many newbies I got to know were more open to improve and learn new skills compared to older colleagues or colleagues of my own age. Sure, they needed the time to learn a new framework, but unlike experienced developers they actually read the documentation and did their work according to how it was documented, rather than doing shit that actively makes the project for everyone else more difficult.

[@wassupbaby8634]

​@@LupoTosk96It's weird that seniors have difficulty finding new jobs. It doesn't make sense. The way the employers think is weird. It looks like they take it personally and try to look for anything bad if you are a senior. But when it comes to juniors "you're not experienced" it sounds like they don't want to hire at all and come up with excuses no matter how experienced the applicant is.

[@mrgalaxy396]

@@wassupbaby8634It's not weird at all. Employers have all the leverage in the current market. For seniors, they are very expensive so employers are extremely conservative and picky, often to their own detriment, lest they hire the "wrong" person and not get their money's worth. As for juniors, they're seen as a cheap labor force you can be picky as much as you want with due to the high supply of candidates. You also tend to hire them in periods of business expansion. Given the currently rocky economy, all the companies are going into cost-savings mode and cutting back on any expansions. As a result, the junior position is toast until the company feels the economy is less rocky.

[@MrBoBrilO]

это правда, так в любой (или практически любой) области сейчас, да и в целом так практически всегда и было

[@wykydytron]

I have bed news to you, at least in EU to be certified electrician all you have to do is 6 months course. You absolutely don't need any degree.

[@Adam-bw1fu]

I've applied to a few of the same job postings, just to see them taken down and put back up with a lower salary range. Developer salaries are effectively being pushed down during this market.

[@klauseba]

hehe, that's how markets work. After covid when everyone wanted to buy a house the prices went up, now when not many people are buying the prices dropped a bit then stagnated. Same with women that go on online dating apps and get 1000 matches. All of a sudden their expectations rise and demand more from the potential candidates :P

[@etgaming6063]

Currently a Data Science student with about 1 year of experience coding (not professionally), a degree in Physics, and an Army Veteran, and submitting my code on GitHub, Kaggle, and Linked all the time. Currently trying to find internships absolutely anywhere that is hiring, LinkedIn has over 500 applicants within 12 hours for every post and even getting rejected by Federal Jobs that give veteran priority. I can’t apply to entry level positions because everyone else has a DS or CS degree, this field is just starting to feel really crowded and I am just starting out. I love the irony that the main reason I went down this path is because it supposedly the “#2 most desirable job in the US” and there is supposed to be hardly any competition and guaranteed to get hired lol.

[@Vladx763]

Same here, I was told Web development was the future and getting a job was the easiest thing. So I went to college for 5 years, I made projects, took online courses, even got a certificate and when I finally graduated, there weren't any jobs anymore. It's even funny how in just a few years it passed from being "the most secure field" to an oversaturated market. Sorry if I typed mistakes, I'm trying to learn English

[@tggorudon2551]

Hardly any competition?! You and the other 1 billion indians in this world.

[@kobakamladze4175]

Nice new jackson guitar man!

[@kitsunedesu2731]

To all of you which are in the same spot as me, treat this like a game, be competitive, level up your character with all of this knowledge , grind everyday and do not give up. We gonna get this first job. EZ PZ

[@romankoncek150]

Or level up in a different field of the industry where market is in better shape, especially if you are new, don't really enjoy programming and it's just a career path for you. And I have to wonder, if everybody just wants to get a job, who is gonna create jobs?

[@hermangachanja8838]

You're right, so much is being said about Sof'Engineering but we all know its the future till full-blown ai takes over the development itself...

[@chrismachabee3128]

or if you think you skilled enough start you own thing. Start small and build up if you have that know how.

[@RenataAndriusiene-cv2dd]

Even getting to interships there no actual work experience is needed, it's so hard to get in. I was in an assessment day at one company and as I spoke to other candidates, they've already had an experience in IT companies or currently working there. I was thinking, why you apply to these programs if you already working in that field?! :D That's why there is so little chance to get in for a person who wants to switch their career. 😢

[@nicolasguillenc]

Networking is the best advice but it there are very few events for that. I came to Atlanta, a super busy city, and I've checked on Facebook and Meetup and there's never something good enough. I really feel for anyone looking for a job these days and I pray that everyone gets a chance to break in.

[@anasouardini]

You don't mean it do you! everyone? think about it. We are a LOT more than enough.

[@zdravkobelinski4627]

one of my friends from work also got hired in similar company with salary 27k£ and he didnt had to knew react. On his interview they asked him to make basic website with few div's and add a map feature

[@LonelyRiderStonerBand]

Nowadays even mid/senior is a nightmare to find a job. Most of the companies want full stack devs with perfect knowledge of devOps, project managing and other stuff. Salary they do offer is not matching skills they want to see from you

[@uuuummm9]

Finally! I was writing about this problem since fall 2023 and everyone else was like "no, all is cool, join our dev training".

[@jl_117]

I honestly don't recommend open-source contributions for juniors unless its a pretty small project. They great to learn from though. But actually making a dent in stuff people actually use is unlikely if you are new to development. Contribute to a friend's repo or project with just a few people instead.

[@richardfeynman4452]

Hahah the thumbnail. its funny cuz is true. On top of all they want you to be proficcient in 5 different frameworks, expert on testing, debugging, ci/cd with 3+ years but you'll end up working in just one of this areas.

[@whiskeyagogo_]

This literally just happened to me in an interview :( ... CI/CD, performance testing, Kubernetes, and required at least 2 years with Spring Boot (all of these were listed on the posting as " bonuses: good if you have heard of these techs". The interviewer was awesome and did send me feedback after the interview, rather than ghosting. But ya, brutal. It's an internship but I felt like I was interviewing to be an autonomous intermediate dev at the very least. I legit was shook 15 minutes into the questions and was trying to hard not to physically cringe the entire way back to my apartment afterward.

[@CottidaeSEA]

Unfortunately this is not limited to our industry. Education requirements are increasing, they want experienced people and it just doesn't work because the inexperienced people can't gain experience.

[@kchemutai3483]

Thank you for the the insightful video. Good luck to us on Job Search

[@LyoshaDraws]

Thanks for your incredible videos and great tips!

[@cagataysen31]

Thank you so much for the tips and sharp detections. I agree with there are many industries still going on to apply. There are many different negatives and positives on each sectors. I want to mention about banking sector for the software negative part that sector is mostly not providing good tech stack or having usually so many dependent techs or tools due to law/audit motions. For long term it can really prevent developing or improving the skill of the developer/engineer himself. Secondly, I have one more detection in addition, bootcamps are creating so many devs in techs. The amount of people and psychology they have while looking for a job is another video content tho...

[@jacepro2827]

I applied for a job as a junior frontend developer and as I checked their website and saw something like this. Interview->Client Interview->You got the job. and when I applied they asked sorts of requirements like multiple coding exams which they call it assessments, self-interview video while I already had the pre screening interview, and the worst was a live code exam while 10 people(managerial and lead position) excluding yourself is watching and grading you like wtf bro I ain't applying to be your next CEO. 😂 I Immediately cancelled it as I already saw they weren't really looking for a junior dev and their demands look too toxic.

[@yajirushik2871]

'Land more jobs' *sigh*... I just want one..

[@randerins]

I just want to land a damn interview as a 6 years of experience dev

[@_hudeifa23]

@@randerins are the 4 years of the university included in the years of experience? i am confused about that

[@joocaarjucfe5675]

Nope​@@_hudeifa23

[@thereaper5171]

unfortunately in my country even the smaller companies require ridiculous exp as a junior dev thus making it imposible for the average junior/intern to land even interview

[@nikhilnisha3025]

india ??

[@programmingdunce8573]

Last summer, I was able to score a role with JPMC and such a role required me to relocate to Delaware. I was dropped within a month with zero warning and vague reasoning. And because I had to relocate to Delaware (and the landlord wanted me to wait six weeks before filing to end the lease early and had an additional month notice), that job cost me at least twice as much as I made. I now have a grudge against Chase and moving forward, I’m way more hesitant to relocate now.

[@alfredlotsu9580]

Best video you've ever made. But that React Hooks playlist was fire too

[@JD-vj4go]

These same companies that are doing layoffs in the West are hiring in India and Eastern Europe. Also non-tech companies are doing layoffs and offshoring too it's just not making the news as much. And a lot of those job postings for senior devs are Jr positions but the trick is you post a job no one qualifies for and then when you can't a qualified person you get a Wipro or Infosys contractor. I really think these programming influencers have no real experience working in a large enterprise.

[@alexmitsou3452]

Hey, very insightful video, thanks for that. Could you make a video on Open-Source contributions for newbies like: what should I choose to contribute to, what kinds of issues can I solve, where to look for projects, etc etc?

[@nikolatesla399]

Either pick a project , know thier tech stack , learn only fundamentals of that ,don't learn everything this is important , start using the project , know what exactly it is trying to do , read the documentation , slowly understand the codebase ,you don't need to go through every file or folder that's impossible , if they have a discord , then join and ask some good questions , pick up some good first issues if available if not just go through them and pick the one you atleast understood what it's all about . And this takes a lot of time

[@nikolatesla399]

What project to pick up is completely upto you

[@artem_bohak]

Guys, the framework choice mainly depends on your country you are going to work in. So, check your market before choosing a framework, but, honestly, a good engineer doesn't care what instrument to use because all of them are the same

[@neilmerchant2796]

Dude, I have 7 years, including SENIOR level experience, and can't find a software job in 2024. Not even a junior dev role, those don't even seem to exist anymore. FML.

[@juxtaposedlime2734]

Seriously? This spells doom for a lot of incoming graduates since they can't get senior experience without going junior first.

[@kisselemer4770]

Where do you live?

[@ngndnd]

really? every single job opening i see is for senior level. But then again, almost all those postings are fake

[@user-ck6yl6qb2g]

same here

[@triplebeats9240]

U speaked truth obviously instead of other peoples who try to convince u to buy their course

[@ameyzagade94]

Thinking to switch from webdev to systems. It's not just the market for me but I'm struggling to keep up with variety of new technologies. Rust seems to be an viable alternative for me to enter into systems programming.

[@CryptoTent]

Please make a video on Dynamic form builder, using select radio button inputs 🫡🫡👍 may be using react-form library

[@REPOORTEHT]

I don't know how's the market worldwide, here in Italy i had to "settle" for years before get actually a good job. But here is pretty common...

[@Snap-Tutorials]

Hey Kyle, I'm a junior web developer and I've been thinking about starting a KZbin channel. I've seen that you have a channel and I admire the content you create. I'm really passionate about creating tutorial content, but I'm unsure about whether I can earn enough money from it. Do you think I should pursue this, or should I consider something else? Also, if I do start, do you suggest starting with voice-over or just adding music to my videos? I'm a bit lost and would appreciate your advice. Thanks in advance for your help. Best, [Pouya]

[@raymondbyczko]

I enjoy your work Kyle! And thanks for the newsletters etc! One thought about the possible use of stock footage at about 6:11. The gentleman who shakes everyone's hands, should also taste their coffee at the same time, leaving bewildered looks on the faces of the attendees :) Perhaps the subject matter of 'How not to get hired' :)

[@DevGio]

Just a heads up. The key to getting jobs is learn the languages that aren’t being taught by the majority of coders here on KZbin. Learn Wordpress and PHP/Laravel and I guarantee you will get more interviews than you ever will with any other web language or framework. Companies need people to maintain old systems built in PHP, and maintain websites with CMS systems like drupal and Wordpress , not just build new ones 😉

[@OluuObi-rb8gs]

Hi, I'd love to talk to you some more about this. How can I contact you?

[@gwell2118]

The problem is covid created a tech boom that was never sustainable under normal circumstances. Now that things returned to normal and these companies are experiencing contraction its leading to a bunch of people losing work and now competing against those just coming into the market making it even more competitive. Yeah no hiring is gonna be annoying for at least the next couple years. My advice is to do research on which areas of the industries are still growing and will need workers soon. Like tech is so diverse see where the wok actually is, also don't be afraid to get creative in your search techniques.

[@jeremydiaz6494]

The issue I have been having is I suck at the Testing. Either I freeze up because 3 strangers are watching me code something or I run out of time. I am dyslexic so I read slowly and I can't seem to remember everything I have ever coded, every possible css, every possible way to test something. It's been very difficult not to have imposter syndrome. lol

[@Orgrimmar21]

Nobody really remembers everything they've done in their career. I don't have dyslexia and I forget most of the stuff I've done in my 5 year experience. It's just important to know that you have done certain thing and then just find a way to do it again. You know it's possible because you've done it and maybe whenever you face the same problem you just start connecting some things to what you've done.

[@Aliena92]

I have a pretty bad social anxiety and panic easily, forgetting everything I know. I’ve been learning web development and the interview part scares me so much!

[@jeremydiaz6494]

@@Orgrimmar21 All true statements. :D

[@jeremydiaz6494]

@@Aliena92 My advice is to network and ask professionals/associates to do mock interviews. Whatever you do is don't give up. It's not a matter of if you will find your dream job. It's just a matter of when. So keep going until you do. One of the best ways to learn is to teach a friend or pretend you're teaching to someone else. I can't tell you how many times my wife walks by my office and ask's "What?" I have to explain I am talking to my imaginary student. haha

[@MiSt3300]

I found work as an intern in 2022 and then finally landed the job in late 2023. I'm so glad I don't have the problems described in this video

[@daveisdead]

Yea I started in 2020 and it was a gold mine back then. I imagine it will never be like that again

[@MiSt3300]

@@daveisdeadwe are lucky because if there comes a time where we have to find a new job, we will already probably have 5+ years of experience. I guess that all the bootcamps promising amazing money for just a week of learning fooled many people into thinking they can have an easy ride, and the result is that no one can find a job now...

[@max_cr_it]

I am a senior FE dev with strong BE skills too and now the market is terrible. I feel like it's time to go now. Few days ago i opened my own car service with friends and doing my own IT project with other guy. Fuck that shit... i don't wanna spend my life begging employers to give me a job.

[@Bryan-zo6ng]

How I feel too. I decided if I get laid off is to bootstrap my own company. Fuck 'the man'

[@mudaquetoca]

Apply for a government job and be happy. Did that at 2014 and never needed to worry about job or salary again. Is the job boring?? A lot, but the supermarket accepts only money, not having fun

[@KeepItFresh02]

I did that. I had a phone interview with a DoD compamy and was told just FYI we will take anyone who has an active clearance over anyone who doesnt. I dont have one. I never heard back. This was Janurary 2nd. I was rejected by another DoD company back in August because I didnt do too well on a Hacker Rank test with this logical/reasoning portion of the test askin how long does it take for Bob to fill his pool with a water hose. goofy shit like that. I got a 0% but the coding stuff i got 100%

[@blindOni]

Same here, if govt jobs are interested, it would make sense to hire and have them vetted and pay for their background checks to obtain clearance

[@clemonsLA]

I prefer to NOT depend on the government for my food. In my eyes you’re no different than the couch potato collecting unemployment. Congrats. And most of the people here watching this channel prefer to get hired for their skill; NOT because they don’t smoke weed and can pass a Background check. But to each their own..

[@souleymaneba9272]

@@clemonsLA 🤣🤣🤣

[@itIsI988]

@@clemonsLAAre you braindead?

[@thecodecatalyst]

I'm a senior and I am having a very hard time getting a job.

[@ArisAris-fs1ip]

Change continent brother. In Europe, it is a little bit hard for entry levels, but for seniors is easy mode.

[@sewerynwozniak3417]

@@ArisAris-fs1ip not true

[@ArisAris-fs1ip]

@@sewerynwozniak3417 if you are truly good in europe, once you get the interview and create a perfect assignment (adding your own features as well) explaining everything in the technical interview after, and answering perfect all the other technical quedtions, you will most possibly get the job. Happened to me, yet i was practising for 2 years straight 6-7 hours a day consistently to get the entry level job. Now with 1 year of experience i get inboxes on linkedin for interviews.

[@viktorskarlatov8227]

@@ArisAris-fs1ip It's almost impossible in Europe as well. Every job posting has like 500 candidates, you're extremely lucky if anyone even notices you applied. You get ghosted 90% of time. Of the other 10% you get 1% interviews and you get rejected for reasons like "bad alias": import localStorage from "@react-native-community/async-storage"

[@FirstnameLastname-cl4op]

@@ArisAris-fs1ip everywhere around the world situation is the same

[@jeffreyhill6990]

This definitely does not make me feel any better lol. Really wishing I stuck with it back in 2018. Picking it back up in recent months and seeing the stark difference in the field is alarming.

[@memaimu]

Getting hired as a junior developer in 2020 even was still not easy. I'm finding interviews for frontend engineer positions are actually full stack. They require you to have created low level design application architecture specifications, and hold multiple official DevOps certifications. They expect you to be able to design, implement, and test. What's the point of having designers and a backend team? They want frontend developers to create a website, and the app itself while taking care of the database and server. Basically frontend in 2024 == full stack. You're left with underpaying full time office jobs where you end up maintaining an old WordPress site.

[@bogdancatrinoiu2651]

Here’s another reason why we have this issue: Everyone now has easy access to every single resource, such as courses everywhere, KZbin channels, tutorials, etc. While this is beneficial for education, if you do not invest the same amount of energy and time as others, you have no chance. Starting a career in web development these days could be much easier due to the lots of resources that are explained for different levels of understanding, languages etc. Ten years ago, only those who were truly passionate about it could land a job.

[@FreeEasyAI]

AI writes code so fast, you only need 1/10th the number of developers you used to need.

[@Essey209]

@@FreeEasyAI have you used AI to write code? its mostly shit. The start code is ok to good but thats it.

[@FreeEasyAI]

@@Essey209 Maybe you're asking it to write too much code at once. I just do it in chunks. But if you have an example where your code is better than what AI wrote, I'd like to see it.

[@JPAGH]

In many, well, most places on the Earth, programmers don't make big money. Big tech companies in the US were the exception for a long time. The remote work explosion convinced lots of customers, that there's no difference between a remote web dev 20 living miles away and 2k miles away, except the money they make. That's it.

[@DominikPlaylists]

this can be said about a lot of jobs in the US.

[@h.t.8812]

the small company tip is what I'm telling people, but it's still not easy finding these, it's like they're hidden and you have to spend hours searching and messaging small companies... most of them don't go to meetups either... I did get 2 interviews/conversations in a couple of weeks where ppl wanted to hire me but none of them wanted me as a dev, only other stuff like marketing and business

[@diwakar_tsn]

This guy always motivate me ❤

[@dedmanraizd]

Hey Kyle do you also recommend trying to get experience while you’re learning and if so, what would you recommend?

[@yugeshkk3062]

Im also trying to get a entry-level job as a fronted developer. Hopefully one day ill get it..

[@anirudhdhsinhjadeja8622]

I just can't say that this is not for me... Especially in Toronto, the situation is just worse than ever. You have addressed the exact same situation i am in right now. And this deserves appreciation. This does bring my attention to open source contributions. But how do i find something that i will have some knowledge about. Until now, any issue i found that needed to be solved, i literally never understood what the issue was.. hahah.. in other words, i feel like i have absolutely zero knowledge about that issue. So how do i find the suitable open source repos ?

[@alerya100]

Man, such situation happens each 8 years

[@klauseba]

it's by design, to keep the slaves' ego in check and remember who's the boss ;)

[@zakuguriin4521]

It took me like 60+ applications before I finally found my first coding job last year. Almost all places wanted a bachelors degree and 1-3 years of experience.

[@zmejbs]

Do you have open source for this project you mention on the video? :)

[@xxxstebyxxx]

Junior without commercial experiences yes but junior with experiences or mid and senior is much easier I get all the time offers through linkedin. The most important is get at least 1 year commercial experiences and then it’s easy peasy to get a job at least in Poland

[@jakubopieka8107]

Do you find working in R&D of the software house as commercial experience?

[@xxxstebyxxx]

@@jakubopieka8107 I’m working for the software house which is comfortable because I can always change client and keep job doesn’t matter what with the different salary :) salary depends how much company pays

[@TheNotoriousDev]

As a web developer, one must have to create undeniable proof that they are what they say they are. Proof could be making projects, networking or anything else. Talking about industry, I agree that it's messed up but myself got two job offers after graduating from a college diploma in web development. Just wanna say that it's very much possible to get in, if you not too much cynical about your possibility of getting in. I work in Fintech and I really like my job.

[@Starkiller2725]

It's honestly hilarious how often i see full-stack requests(or outright whole company requests) for a junior web dev. Knowing JS, HTML CSS and even a framework is not enough. You need to have experience with some form of SQL, CI/CD and 3-4 other things.

[@ahallock]

Bro, I have 20 years of experience and it's still no walk in the park. Things are tough out there

[@unique__naxeer9164]

I’m currently pursuing my first CS degree and i also took Udemy courses since last year. I built some simple projects and i have plan for start learning react immediately after this semester. But I started getting discouraged by seeing how things are going 🥺🥺

[@Poiuytrew-uq7dl]

Kinda in the same boat here

[@fdxponome]

bro, just change degrees while you can...

[@D2Synua]

@@fdxponome this is sadly the best advice you could give to someone right now

[@ngndnd]

to what tho? the only degree that will guarantee anyone a job is nursing @@fdxponome

[@shaira9860]

Maybe because companies are outsourcing from cheaper labor countries. I'm from the Philippines and they pay associate software engineer for just 300 to 500usd monthly. And they would hire a lot too.

[@tcritt]

So glad ignored the people saying a CS degree wasn't necessary.

[@mrbobbilly]

In a lot of cases a CS or tech degree is required so your resume can get through HR's filters because they get a lot of applicants for that job so the degree is an easy way for HR to weed out people

[@tcritt]

@@mrbobbilly Yep, exactly.

[@axisepsilon514]

Yea I'm working in IT (not Software) and all new hires, without single exception have a STEM degree. Just getting past the HR filter alone, a degree is needed. I went in state and commuted from home so I went to school for very cheap. A degree doesn't have to be expensive but everyone in their mother wants to go to fancy private schools

[@ahmedkrdzalic4425]

thanx. Trust is that thing definitely...

[@caiozedtv9535]

i have 8 years of experience as a developer, have worked with pretty much all languages used nowadays including it's frameworks, all types of databases, cloud computing in aws of which i have certifications, was a tech lead for 2 years in a big company and even with that i can't find a job. so yeah i would not suggest getting into development today, do something else meanwhile and try again in a fews years if it's better.

[@arcanelore168]

Keep it up with the Jackson!

[@go_better]

Thanks a lot. I guess it was my mistake, because I was mass applying for 6 months and got no offer. I should have searched for referrals and building my portfolio. Don't repeat my mistake.

[@Atned]

It isn't just software/web developers. It's the entire tech sector. This is very much the same situation for those of us who recently went to school for cybersecurity.. where junior-level jobs have equally ludicrous requirements and qualifications. Getting a job as a cybersecurity analyst or SOC analyst has become more akin to winning a lottery.

[@husseinserag6217]

You are correct. I guess this is because of the trend of learn webdev, cyber security, etc. and get paid instantly. Us computer engineers and computer scientists are suffering due to this. It is sad and frustrating

[@ianm87]

The solution is always: build projects, build a great portfolio- but the level of technical ability you need to start, build and understand projects just to possibly make an impression is pretty vast. The jobs that used to provide training simply don't exist anymore, you're expected to be a wizard already. Unless you're extremely, extremely dedicated to coding for "apps", you better go find something else to do, something more worthwhile for your time. As for me, in my heart, I've already started to move on from this BS.

[@soumelee5661]

I have downloaded your 2024 roadmap. can u pls tell me that will i be job ready or atleast ready for internships if i complete ur roadmaps?

[@amyhawks]

june 2023 i graduated as bachelor software engineer and now i’m so stuck. i saw only few junior jobs with the requirements i met but i never got the interview. every time i look specifically for junior jobs i see only middle and senior ones. currently i’m studying gamedev by myself so maybe in couple months after few game jams i will have some luck and will get hired. but damn, should i switch to graphical designer or what the hell do i do man

[@nathanmoore7118]

Thoughts on things like certifications? AWS certifications or K8s certifications seem pretty popular, but not sure have employers view them

[@S3D8]

You react course is quite out date. Still having class on react

[@robinsongonzalez5352]

One reason that is complicated for American developers is that a lot of U.S companies prefer to hire developers in South America because they can pay them lower, for example, as a Junior Developer I will be happy with 8000 USD per year (Living in Colombia) and we're not bad as developers.

[@ichbinhier355]

they will pay you 1.500 if you are in Latin America lol

[@justsample9185]

@@ichbinhier355 per year, not per month

[@ronaldrodriguez5144]

Monthly I believe. That's good money for any Latin American country.

[@ronaldrodriguez5144]

Monthly I believe. That's good money for any Latin American country.

[@ronaldrodriguez5144]

Monthly I believe. That's good money for any Latin American country.

[@helidrones]

26 years ago I‘ve been a developer for 10 years. Now after having practiced JS/TS/Angular/Stencil/PHP/Symfony/SQL/… for the last two years I am trying to enter the SW industry again. Yesterday I had an interview and we agreed to give it a shot. Now I am a bit worried because of the tech stack being Delphi at its core. Never did something in that language before.

[@anmolfrost]

It's okay to be worried, its normal. If you understand the concepts of software, then every other technology is merely a language change.

[@helidrones]

@@anmolfrost You are right, I guess. I‘ve survived Cobol back then, probably I will survive Delphi as well. Thanks for the heads-up.

[@DanielAllan]

I put up an actual junior role today (melbourne, australia).. I expect to get flooded with resumes.. for me, have a cover letter, do not let AI write it, they are boring to read. Have a simple resume.. if you can't do that, how could you ever build a simple to use website. Some proof you are interested.. like last weekend I did the global gam jam, thats very much revelant thats my views anyways, you never know who/what is reading what you submitted

[@scottmelton6991]

Gaining trust in this context basically means as a Junior Developer I need to be as good/smart/experienced as a Senior Developer. Yay I love my life.

[@User-404]

In my country, even small companies and the bottom of the barrel ask for 5 years of xp and idk how many libraries and additional skills. Usually they don't give a f*ck either.