How to Address a Crowd in Ancient Rome

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@jeffcooper3434
@jeffcooper3434 2 жыл бұрын
As the video progressed, I found myself absolutely glued to Aldrete's gestures. What a great lecture.
@jpvansplunder
@jpvansplunder Жыл бұрын
Same.
@lukesmith1818
@lukesmith1818 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorites. Which given the high standard of this channel really says something. Historia civilis has a great episode on Caesars funeral which included a prop depicting his stab wounds. This made me imagine Mark Antony gesticulating, weeping and getting the crowd riled up. It would explain the riot that followed
@jpvansplunder
@jpvansplunder Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with your comment.
@valw3212
@valw3212 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when the speaker is passionate about their subject. How cool is that? Thank you to you both.♥
@richardorford8301
@richardorford8301 2 жыл бұрын
I love those long videos,I struggle with sleep and they help me settle before bed but it means I miss half and have to watch again,not complaining😂
@miksogtriks5354
@miksogtriks5354 Жыл бұрын
Michael Parenti is one of my favorite modern orators
@ozzythebeerthief8791
@ozzythebeerthief8791 2 жыл бұрын
I love the story about a Roman orator inspiring a dance move because he swayed from side to side when doing a speech 😆
@yahweh2787
@yahweh2787 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Aldrete is phenomenal
@yorkshirepudding9860
@yorkshirepudding9860 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great talk, thank you.
@gspolima
@gspolima 2 жыл бұрын
Your fluency in speech is admirable. I strive to be as articulate as you are :)
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian 2 жыл бұрын
If I can offer a minor criticism as to the format of this podcast: it felt little bit too much like a Q&A with prepared answers; it lacked the spontaneity and back-and-forth of the earlier episodes. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy it or that it wasn't hugely informative, but I preferred when it feels more like sitting in to a fireside chat.
@automaticmattywhack1470
@automaticmattywhack1470 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I remember asking you about this exact subject (the gestures used in HBO's Rome) a while ago. This is exactly what I wanted.
@dictatorofcanada4238
@dictatorofcanada4238 2 жыл бұрын
Professor Aldrete did so much research about Roman gestures he has now incorporated them into all of his own speech 😆 Edit: He acknowledged it
@jpvansplunder
@jpvansplunder Жыл бұрын
I like your comment.
@tatepierson4626
@tatepierson4626 Жыл бұрын
We like your comment.
@maxsonthonax1020
@maxsonthonax1020 Жыл бұрын
Of that there can be no doubt.
@JoeyC777
@JoeyC777 2 жыл бұрын
What a LEGEND! Love his courses - very, very listenable. Thanks so much for this. As a preacher I totally understand the need for and the overflow of emotions into gestures also, even as an Englishman!
@jpvansplunder
@jpvansplunder Жыл бұрын
Love the guests you pick out, this was amazing.
@hamiljohn
@hamiljohn 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting, thanks to both of you!
@markmuller7962
@markmuller7962 Жыл бұрын
Wow this channel is criminally underrated, not even Cicero would manage to defend those who are not subbed lol No seriously
@JuliusCaesar888
@JuliusCaesar888 2 жыл бұрын
I will listen at work tomorrow!!! TIS can you do a book feature? You haven't done one on your book yet, and people REALLY don't know what they're missing - even non-readers would have a blast with it. You should do a quick breakdown of your book to tantalize your followers. People who haven't read Ryan's book yet: order it asap! It's basically like reading a compilation of 25 of his 10 minute videos all in one. It's VERY DIGESTIBLE, does NOT rely on academic jargon, and is super fun and full of humor, while being factual throughout.
@tatepierson4626
@tatepierson4626 Жыл бұрын
“Dammit” - my wallet
@robertperlstein3527
@robertperlstein3527 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and informative discussion-- Mr. Aldrete must be (perhaps from his research & study) an effective public speaker or lecturer-- I had this podcast playing while I was doing other tasks and found myself being captivated by the subject matter.
@marianneb.7112
@marianneb.7112 Жыл бұрын
"Slack-limbed English!" Ha ha! How funny. Thanks for this interview. 👏👍
@PhthaloBloo
@PhthaloBloo 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy these long form podcasts. Shorter video are great for certain subjects, but these podcasts give me a way to enjoy a more in depth experience.
@azureprophet
@azureprophet Жыл бұрын
The gesture system would make a great minigame where you play a Roman trying to get a crowd to fight for you.
@scoon2117
@scoon2117 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could time travel and listen to these orators do their thing. Fascinating.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 Жыл бұрын
My Italian cousin turns into a modern-Cicero when he wants to convince me . Drama, hand gestures. He has it all ! 😅
@Kyle_Schaff
@Kyle_Schaff Жыл бұрын
These are the conversations that keep Rome as my only consistent hobby. Utterly fascinating, thought-provoking, and funny. I was enthralled the whole time
@zbs8334
@zbs8334 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you've done a video on this but I'd like to see you discuss how Rome conducted medical related issues. Was it all herbs and potions, deadly surgeries, or surprisingly advanced techniques that really worked? Thank you
@Emanonerewhon
@Emanonerewhon Жыл бұрын
Oratory is serious Magic, and the ancients understood this better than anyone. To capture a crowd and seize their attention, command their emotions and stir them to passion. Whoever can be good at that sort of thing cuts a (potentially) very dangerous figure.
@SawyerSGN
@SawyerSGN Жыл бұрын
I might be late to the punch, but this was BY FAR one of the most informative podcasts you've ever hosted. Thank you for talking to Dr. Aldrete and bringing this subject to light. Please have him on again in the future! I learned a lot!
@spikeyflo
@spikeyflo Жыл бұрын
Loved the whole video. Loved the account of Sextus Tidius. Wouldn't he be amazed to know that his peculiarity had passed down through the ages. I also liked your comment at the end about there being a 'magic in gestures'. Mike
@notpublic7149
@notpublic7149 Жыл бұрын
I have watched every single lecture of Prof. Aldrete on what is now called Wondrium. ❤ I hope they call him to make more series..
@BlueBaron3339
@BlueBaron3339 8 ай бұрын
I truely anjoyed Dr. Aldrete's Roman history lectures in The Great Courses. Plus he's great at answering questions you have if you email him. Same for Robert Garland for Greek history who also was eager to answer viewer questions. As for the rest of that service...well....they do sponsor some of Garrett's videos, so I'll leave it at that.
@wilm2109
@wilm2109 Жыл бұрын
"True Roman bread for true Romans" - Brought to you by the Guild of Millers
@tallmikbcroft6937
@tallmikbcroft6937 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. The Eastern Orthodox/Byzantine Christian Liturgy uses these gestures that I assume go all the way back to the third century... Which means they are probably taken from even earlier traditions. Very cool I liked the slap on the thigh... He looked outraged LOL . (Although I had no idea what he was talking about... Did he say "Blessed are the cheese makers?". )
@gabe1ist
@gabe1ist 2 жыл бұрын
Love prof Aldrete's Great Courses, especially his stuff on the ancient world. He has a real talent for breaking down how large societal processes that seem alien to us, worked.
@Electronic424
@Electronic424 2 жыл бұрын
I really love these longer episodes, so much new information
@champagne.future5248
@champagne.future5248 7 ай бұрын
This absolutely blew my mind. What a revelation. Gestures were like an ancillary language in themselves. It makes me sad that they are a dead language now and we will never see a great Roman oratorical performance
@juliopaveif
@juliopaveif Жыл бұрын
I'm so. Glad you guys dressed this subject! It's been in My mind for such a long time!
@TheMintyMelon
@TheMintyMelon Жыл бұрын
The influence of using gestures in late republic Rome obviously can be seen better than anywhere else in modern day Italy itself…..the undesputed masters of talking with their hands….No surprise there…!!🤌👌
@coreysherman2143
@coreysherman2143 Жыл бұрын
thank you dr aldrete. y'all make me miss graduate school so much
@D3Z3R7
@D3Z3R7 Жыл бұрын
This video is an excellent gateway to a lot of incredible information. Thank you very much.
@tuomasronnberg5244
@tuomasronnberg5244 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Roman orators dealing with hecklers reminds me a lot of modern day stand-up comedians. I think the fundamentals of their craft are the same, to evoke emotion from the audience
@hejhejwtf
@hejhejwtf Жыл бұрын
Wow, very intersting, what an amazing subject!
@gbickell
@gbickell Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you
@johnspizziri1919
@johnspizziri1919 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you, perfesser!
@vestina6177
@vestina6177 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful episode! So much interesting information! Thank you so much for your videos and amazing guests! :)
@qboxer
@qboxer 2 жыл бұрын
I was just speaking to a friend about the loss of rhetoric in general. How apropos!
@keithagn
@keithagn 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting talk. Thank you!
@kreepykraut8153
@kreepykraut8153 Жыл бұрын
What a splendid vid, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks very much indeed, I‘ve learned a lot. Both Garrett and Gregory are so very good in transporting knowledge. I follow them both on Utube for quite a while now. Those 48 minutes seemed extremely short. Very well done, greetings from the other side of the pond!
@lindsaybarche9858
@lindsaybarche9858 Жыл бұрын
Such an interesting episode! Thanks!! ❤
@Krommer1000
@Krommer1000 2 жыл бұрын
For The Algorithm!
@montgomeryday
@montgomeryday Жыл бұрын
These two!!!! 🤩🤩
@darrylforsythe8924
@darrylforsythe8924 Жыл бұрын
The legend himself
@kennethmacneil686
@kennethmacneil686 2 жыл бұрын
This podcast is sponsored by the Guild of Millers, True Roman Bread for True Romans.
@adamantdane3896
@adamantdane3896 Жыл бұрын
hahaha HBO Rome ref.
@AlbertManiscalco
@AlbertManiscalco Жыл бұрын
perhaps italians talking with their hands is descended from this tradition of persuading lol
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 жыл бұрын
please Bring us Professor Elizabeth Vandiver from the great courses
@ryanmbira3968
@ryanmbira3968 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, love this episode! Reminded me of Mussolini’s speeches….
@bethwilliams4903
@bethwilliams4903 Жыл бұрын
Well! Now another topic and authors I have to devour! Prof Alfred’s is so much fun, his enthusiasm is a bonus to his expertise, only a format like this Garrett can really work Btw, I’m sure it isn’t meant but Cicero comes off as something of a huckster … surely the legal system not allow this nonsense!
@chasbodaniels1744
@chasbodaniels1744 Жыл бұрын
At the 11:00 mark, Professor Aldrete mentions appealing to the emotions of an audience as a persuasive tool. Puts me in the mind of the disgraced genius Roger Ailes, who in the mid-1990s, designed Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News format from top to bottom. - Youthful bleached-blonde women on-camera, appealing to the target demographic of men 34-65. - Repetition of simple derogatory phrases and buzzwords to push viewers’ hot buttons while driving home anti-left messaging. Thanks Cicero!
@MrViki60
@MrViki60 Жыл бұрын
45:30 HOLY BASED
@danielvaldez9946
@danielvaldez9946 2 жыл бұрын
First petition for a told in stone tick tock account with the first video being “the Tideus”.
@andreweaston1779
@andreweaston1779 Жыл бұрын
If we posit that the gestures are enough to make a language, then, surely they are correct that gestures can create emotions. Would anyone be willing to say that it is impossible to give a rousing speech in ASL? Or scare someone? Make someone happy?
@nathanielscreativecollecti6392
@nathanielscreativecollecti6392 2 жыл бұрын
One wonders how much more context we would have in Christ's words if we had his gestures in addition to his words.
@bluenoteone
@bluenoteone Жыл бұрын
Rhetoric requires, and in fact depends upon, the Science of Major Logic. That Logic is owed predominantly to Aristotle. And THAT is more to the answer to your question on "...the mechanics itself of Rhetoric". It is an exact science of correctly formed propositions, three to be exact and reduced to the simplest form which is two terms connected with the positive or the negative form of the Verb "To Be". For Rhetoric is useless if the standard Major, minor terms or ideas are Truly connected in the two propositions in simplest form, or not connected, by a Middle Term in such a way that the third proposition called the Conclusion is Objectively True. That structure is called The Syllogism.....et al. This is of the utmost importance we were made to know The Truth and to will The Goo, non calidum aerem. If a "rhetoric" produced chaos then it does not serve Humanity.
@phillipnoetzel7637
@phillipnoetzel7637 Жыл бұрын
The modern equivalent of the discussion around minute 18 would be our ex president Ronald Reagan.
@juglardelzipa
@juglardelzipa Жыл бұрын
gestures = reaction memes!
@ReasonableRadio
@ReasonableRadio Жыл бұрын
HBO... Name your academic sources! 😅
@larsulrich2761
@larsulrich2761 Жыл бұрын
Well if you are Jewish both Hitler and Luther fall on the evil side of oration.
@sarahsarah2534
@sarahsarah2534 Жыл бұрын
You professor know nothing about national socialism.
@pinchevulpes
@pinchevulpes Жыл бұрын
Sig Heil! 😂
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