How to Analyze Return on Investment? Where Does ROI Come From?

[@waddles7503]

Good discussion. One additional RoI to consider is time. There are several upgrades which simply help you save time by running things on auto, making conquest run faster etc…. Just need to consider your objectives when calculating potential RoI.

[@icytucannoli886]

You make valid points, Phil, and I like your analysis on resource earnings. I was also impressed with your Secrets & Shadows CT3 3 star!!! I have had a G12 MT and have beat CT3. Very good video!

[@samelder304]

Finally can’t wait to watch this after the video on POW and MQJ

[@fiole666]

Yes, relic a weak toons for an operation is a thing for serious players and Guilds. Many neglect that.

[@akeelavalerian1350]

@phatphil Thanks for the content! Great analysis. You indicated you beat Secrets and shadows with R5 Dakka and R2 Assaj. Thought you said you had video. I looked hard could not find. Could you please let me know where that might be, or if you recommend someone's guide in the alternative? TIA.

[@Exodos1]

Pls make this guide about secrets and shadows with your NS!

[@rokarynmazel7353]

You basically never actually earn back your resources from any one mode/event. You’ll never earn your signal data back, for example, on POW / MQJ for the Duel of Fates if you take them to r9. However, you earn a good chunk back and also have the units to use in all of the rest of the game. That is how to look at ROI imo, do I earn something for this investment and do I get good use out of the units being stronger.

[@markredden311]

I've done the r8 Snowtrooper, r7 Hoth Rebel Scout and r6 B2 on top of the good toons that I'd already have done anyway.

[@permabanned3849]

i don't think rote tb units and reqs are comparable, journey guide reqs feed into another unit that gives you the actual roi, but tb garbage has a return - a tiny tiny fraction of a single star increase. so basically that relic 8 tb unit converts into maybe 1-2 crystals and 5 get2/3 per month. and guilds somehow care about this...

[@pwnanubasaurus2950]

I’m 5 GET2 away from unlocking Malevolence lol Trust me, I wish I could farm up a character for ROTE SMs and have gotten that extra 5 GET2 After I finish Executor and SLKR, I’ll be getting a SM built up to prevent this from happening to others

[@permabanned3849]

@@pwnanubasaurus2950 no you dont dude, imagine taking a character to relic 8, even from let's say relic 3 let alone from scratch, just to have a unit unlocked a few weeks faster where that unit won't even be great for several more months. and that's assuming the rest of your guild does the same so you actually get 1 more star

[@pwnanubasaurus2950]

@@permabanned3849 Uh, more like two G12s to R5

[@wattambor3620]

Ok you beat t3 of secrets and shadows with your 2 relic nightsisters are you able to beat the dathomir special mission?

[@rosslomazov3252]

That mission requires R7 NS toons. You cannot start the SM at any lower level.

[@bumlace]

Technically, you get shard shop currency. And that can become zin