Moved to North Dakota last year, my dream has been to hunt elk in MT for nearly a decade since I started hunting. Hoping next year I can apply and see what happens! Always appreciate these videos!
@kerryfalls32927 ай бұрын
Thanks Randy for your interest in helping us through this process!!! I think your videos are the “most interesting “ videos on KZbin! You are such a great outdoorsman and hunter, keep up the good work, Wildman!!!
@masonsayler96586 ай бұрын
Just spent $1500 applying for the big game combo. Glad I could help out with the $100 in extra fees too👍 I’m happy I have an opportunity to hunt the king’s animals and It only costed 3 months rent!
@rob42637 ай бұрын
Randy, when you said some people dont buy a point (I think you're referring to a preference point), if someone applies for a combo license but chooses at that time to not buy a preference point, they are then NOT permitted to buy a preference point starting in July. The only people who can buy a preference point starting in July are people who didn't apply for a combo license. Crazy.
@stevebillings44587 ай бұрын
This is correct
@deanbrantley7 ай бұрын
The prefrence point system is aimed toward making the non-res the new cash cow.
@matthuberty24427 ай бұрын
I do not believe you can purchase a preference point in the summer if you have applied for a tag in March. Regardless of whether you've checked the box or not.
@rob42637 ай бұрын
Agree 100% about complicated process...and ive been back there 22 of past 23yrs
@Ryan_Erkkila3 ай бұрын
Did I just read that those who applied in the 2024 draw and picked up a preference point while doing so but didn’t draw can buy a second point between July and the 2024 season? If that’s the case I assume they also can buy a 3rd point at application time for the 2025 season? So one who applies with 1 point in 2024 could potentially apply with 3 in 2025? Maybe that’s just those using a guide? Thanks
@HHreloading_outdoors7 ай бұрын
Curious on sxs input. We hunt Colorado every year. And haul the sxs up, but it’s not necessarily required. It’s a full size, so it won’t fit on most atv trails (Atleast in Colorado) Got two points, hopefully will get drawn for the gen elk/mule combo.
@_honestly_70155 ай бұрын
Can you build bonus points even if you are applying for a general tag every year?
@Max-eo1ik6 ай бұрын
I’m an NR, so in order for me to get drawn for a limited entry tag, I must first get drawn for the general tag?
@wkopphorses6 ай бұрын
Yes
@jasonfudala96874 ай бұрын
If you did not apply for a tag during the initial application period can you still sign up and get on the list for the returned tags?
@drmann15Ай бұрын
I was looking at Montana’s website last week. Is it true that non residents have no options to hunt ANTLERED elk?
@RitterFitness7 ай бұрын
So, if I want to try to hunt Montana this year, I shoulnd't buy preference point? Or would it be better if I just buy a prefernce point and almost certainly get drawn next year?
@wkopphorses6 ай бұрын
You will most likely be drawn with 2 points in montana
@BriceMedin7 ай бұрын
So didn't Marcus draw in the Re-Issue draw so they all 4 drew and not just 3? Maybe I missed something
@BDJans7 ай бұрын
Is it true you lose any preference points you may have accumulated if you don’t put in for the draw, but just attempt to accumulate/build points via only buying the point itself?
@brandonjochem4236 ай бұрын
Sure is. Had that happen to us this year. Called Game and Fish and they confirmed for me that they showed the receipt for the past 2 years preference but 2022 expired because we did not apply for an actual license last year
@coryclark92597 ай бұрын
What is the benefit of applying as a group vs an individual?
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha7 ай бұрын
If you apply as a group and one person has their name drawn everybody in the party would also get a tag if there are enough tags left for that hunt. So if you're from out of state and the people you need to come help you would only want to come if they had a license to also hunt it's a good way to ensure you either all get a license or no one does
@HHreloading_outdoors7 ай бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, I believe they take the total point divided by hunters to get the average point number for the group.. This was my understandin… May be way wrong lol
@JohnFunk406Ай бұрын
I wish someone would audit f w p and find out how many prime tags are being given to non residents
@alexandercluster30034 ай бұрын
As a pushing 40 year old guy who is just now thinking he might want to check some boxes off the bucket list I gotta say, goodness freaking gracious. All of this to shoot a stupid deer or elk? You can shoot a whole truck bed full of whitetails in the east in one day for 100 bucks and a handshake. This is what happens when it’s more hunters then game. Hunting in the west is like dealing with a mafia extortion racket. Out of curiosity what does all of this cost a resident? Please please tell me residents aren’t paying anywhere close to 1200 bucks for a lottery ticket essentially.
@williamfeldner93567 ай бұрын
Just finished my 2024 application for a combo license, close to $1,500 ouch…….. Pretty expensive just to hunt on land I own with everyone in the Country….. You know, National Forest, National Forest, National Monuments, Wilderness Areas and Bureau of Land Management Lands……..
@nevadabornhunter7 ай бұрын
The land might be federal, but the wildlife belongs to the state 🤷🏻♂️
@keithkester85747 ай бұрын
I went in 2022 and the total for everything, and I mean everything including the combo all the fees, wolf donation wolf tag, it cost me about $1,250. It went up quite a bit in 2 years I guess
@maryfries21476 ай бұрын
@@nevadabornhunterto much bureaucracy to pay for when we already own the land and I've hunted in Montana for many years but can't hunt with a crossbow in Montana, what a joke hunt somewhere for all these years now cant pull bow back so screwed but they want it pure bow so do they all hunt with long bows?
@floridaguyoutdoors63257 ай бұрын
I know Montana system can be overwhelming and hard to understand but I wish colorado and Wyoming would cap there Preference Points at 3-5. There systems are ridiculous, point creep absolutely sucks
@gregbadnerosky25376 ай бұрын
Colorado's preference points are essentially the same as Montana's bonus points, no cap
@caderobertson48896 ай бұрын
I feel good to be a resident Montana hunter after this video…
@Randy_Savage_ohyeah7 ай бұрын
When did MT go to Pref Point system? Always was Bonus Point.
@rob42637 ай бұрын
Preference points are different and separate than bonus points. They've had preference points for over a decade at least
@jmcn51777 ай бұрын
I need a in depth draw schooling for Minnesota. That way, you can over run your home state with hunters. Like you do to mine
@bbd1607 ай бұрын
Are you out of tissue? 😢
@kellydevine92346 ай бұрын
limited to 17,000 NR for years. The increase in hunter numbers are coming from residents.
@masonsayler96586 ай бұрын
Minnesota is OTC
@jonathonlang18446 ай бұрын
I put myself and my wife in for buck and doe pronghorn, my oldest kid for a doe pronghorn and those 5 cost 1200ish, its not cheap but for pronghorn also not the craziest nonresident cost ive seen.
@bigsteezer9247 ай бұрын
even though i make good money its so hard to think about spending nearly $1k on a deer tag after preference points as a non res...so intense... I have hunted montana and want to again, but man...at those prices I may just hunt leftover tags in my home state (CO) thanks for this break down Randy
@JP-uk1jp7 ай бұрын
MT draw is so confusing and expensive.
@jonEmontana6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the best value is just to buy wolf tags and save elk lives.
@07kdjohnson17 ай бұрын
Sshhhh….. Stop telling people not to buy a preference point! I don’t think I heard you say but if you buy the outfitter point you can only hunt with an outfitter. You can’t hunt DIY after your week with the outfitter is up.
@carollongacre48067 ай бұрын
Should of hunted 20 years ago when there were still animals left.. a young mans sport now!!!
@Lexidezi2257 ай бұрын
Very simple Montana great job 😂
@csyarid5 ай бұрын
It's clear that MT makes the process so costly and complicated in order to discourage non resident hunters.
@frednurk43427 ай бұрын
Very expensive way to take your rifle for walk
@richardjackson39397 ай бұрын
Try living over sea's and finding your way around this system, nightmare, at least this video explains it really well.
@jakeyakey63956 ай бұрын
Who had success pulling a tag this year? Found out today I did not pull anything.
@alexandercluster30034 ай бұрын
Do you get any money back if you draw nothing? I can’t imagine just eating 1200.
@anthonymedeck70817 ай бұрын
Randy Randy Randy It’s time for you and the wife to move to AZ. I know you love it here.
@justinrobinette47727 ай бұрын
Wtf randy. We don't need more out of state hunters.
@brandonjochem4236 ай бұрын
Good news is the non resident quota is capped so this video won't bring more. Randy has discussed many times. Residents are the only number that can increase
@colepriceguitar11534 ай бұрын
I bet Montana hates you for clearing this up since I think they clearly made it confusing so people won’t apply.