How to Argue with Someone Who Doesn’t Use Logic

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In this empowering video, Attorney Rebecca Zung, author of "Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with Narcissists & Win," draws upon her expertise in high-conflict negotiation to guide you through the intricacies of arguing with someone who doesn't rely on logic. With compassionate understanding and proven strategies, Rebecca sheds light on effective communication techniques to navigate irrational discussions, emphasizing empowerment, resilience, and assertiveness. Join the community of viewers seeking personal growth and transformation, and discover your power to handle challenging interactions with confidence. #RebeccaZung #ConflictResolution #Empowerment #LogicalArguments #CommunicationSkills #PersonalGrowth #Assertiveness #HighConflict #NegotiationStrategies #empoweryourself
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[@kevincollins8311]

I've listened to quite a few of your videos and your very pleasant and I enjoy you very much! Thank you.

[@jomansson5742]

Just bought your book after reading the great reviews. Thanks Rebecca for filling that gap in society's knowledge. I will definitely refer it to people.

[@Mike_Cosentino]

Arguing with someone who is illogical is like arguing with an inanimate brick wall.

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[@tad1111]

Answering them with questions sometimes works for me when they are arguing.

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[@michellek649]

I do this and I notice lately that they just stay silent and say nothing. It's very mentally disturbing when it's someone like a doctor or professional that you need to interact with.

[@tad1111]

@@michellek649 Yes it is, some drs and professionals can be very rude and arrogant.

[@TB-no9ir]

I like the "respond with curiosity." "That's interesting, why would you say that? That's interesting, why would you do that?" Could you possibly flesh out this into a story about a narcissist? Can you turn this into a story, or a short film with someone playing the role of the narcissist? I would like to see how the narcissist acts, and then how you are responding. It's good advice, but it would be great to see it in action, in the form of a short film/video. It helps to see the whole context. Thanks so much.

[@michaelbondaryk3806]

Thank you for all your wisdom. It has been groundbreaking in my own transformation. This work is crucial in opening up to one’s self. Thank so much for being this light.

[@JacK-qn4zh]

There is no logic or truth so...let them be who they are and...WOW, you will know all

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[@customerservicetrainer3175]

Agreed 💯 percent

[@6FootVampire]

I would say argue from emotion is the most common. Premis, premis, conclusion If they disagree with it on a basis of emotion things can only go downhill from there. If you know the person, back off and wait for a situation and explain why your conclusion is logic in nature, not emotional. I cant argue with my family, example: - 5+5=10 Counter argument: *angry mumbling while walking away* If i have done something wrong I WILL HEAR IT from others If i tell others they have done something wrong I just: *need to stop being petty and forgive others*?

[@carbonunit6573]

My wife knew I had to make sense of everything so when she argued with me she she went out of her way not to make sense.

[@shernandez1581]

Observing, that is such a good way to deal with a narc. Thank you

[@TheeyeOftruth-yx2np]

Absolutely stupendous, Thank you so much for this Rebecca, You're absolutely beautiful and compassionate, I know who they are, I'm not allowing them back in to my life, Peace, love, Respect to you and everyone, Thank you universe, All glory to the universe, The most high 🕊🌲☘🌷🌝⚽♘😍🌹🦁🦄🐎😇🐉👽🌈🌌💙❤💚💛😃

[@user-uq4hh1xh3y]

Agree it seems impossible when there are attacking me in the Morning when it hurts most and have nothing to do with them blank

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[@captainotto]

Good advice. I'd add a pocket voice recorder to that. The internet needs more examples of DARVO in practice.

[@fairygurl9269]

💯

[@dj8422]

You know, to do something like this, be an "outsider" in this situation, when the narcissist is your parent or close family is almost impossible. I have grown up with 2 narc parents and they basically poisoned me with every words they've said. Now, I broke all contact with my mother, when I was 20 but not with my father, it took more time for me to realize, he is a covert narcissist. He used to ridicule me a lot even in front of me or behind my back and I've got some confidence back, when I moved away from him but now I'm in a situation, where I have to stay in his house and he sucks all of the energy from me. I drew my line, so now he is worse than ever and always lying about me for everybody, who is willing to listen him. In this case I realized, I have to be cool and emotionless but still he pulls me to arguments sometimes and I always feel weak and powerless against him. He is very illogical but never listen to facts and I feel like, there is no way to defend myself either from him or from other family members, who trust him.

[@WalksfortheSoul77]

I had a similar experience with my family. The only way to stop getting pulled in is to truly stop caring what they think of you and what they say about you. This is NOT easy. They want to control your self-esteem along with everything else. But at the heart of it they want to keep you feeling bad about yourself. This feeds their superiority complex/narcissism. Every way you can start to love yourself, care about yourself, put you first and realize they have no idea who you are and your worth as a person. They say they do, but they don't. They don't even know their own worth as a human being, even though they act and pretend like they know best. Truly they don't know crap lol and are lost souls. Don't let lost souls tell you who you are. This is what I wish I could tell my younger self. It's been about 10 years since I finally got out of their emotional/mental grasp. Their guilt trips don't work anymore. Their judgments don't work. After a while they stopped all their games because when they tried to guilt me I would literally chuckle and walk away. Be careful though, that could be dangerous with someone who is a highly malignant narcissist. Maybe keep the chuckle inside your mind. Because that is what occurs when you see that they are nothing more than their mental games. It's called Emotional Blackmail. There's a book on it. I l also want to get Slay the Narc book because honestly these people are everywhere in our society and we need to up our game, especially when we had parents who groomed us to be compliant. Good luck to you.

[@WalksfortheSoul77]

And by the way, the biggest thing that reeled me back into fights with them is that they would point out a weakness in me or something I was still building inside myself. And you'll see that and think they are right. You'll want to defend yourself because it hurts. The thing is many of your so called weaknesses come from their bad parenting and narcissism that you endured. This is not to put blame on them, but just to recognize some of the truth in that so you don't blame yourself or take on any more shame than you already have. The shame cycle keeps us paralyzed in life too often. Or having trouble concentrating and other things from growing up in an unsupportive, actively shaming household. So don't absorb those insults and hopefully don't get stuck in blaming them either because that could slow you down as well. Just recognize the reality of the whole situation and then do your best to heal. Sorry for the long comment. I just saw your story and it hit me hard because it's sounds just like mine.

[@IzzyNChrist]

don't engage in those arguments, let him say what he wants to say. You know the truth. Then later vent to your friends. Spend as much time as you can away from home and be there only when you need to be. Use the "you know dad, I'm tired we can talk about this later" technique.

[@mamababy7708]

Instead of arguing with them, focus on their needs and wants, highlight them and expose them. It takes them by suprise and out of context. Give them their own medicine

[@RoB-dp1cm]

Makes sense! Asking for clarification is a helpful suggestion! Thank you!

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[@michaeleckert5877]

You make good sense.I appreciate what you are doing to help people feel better about themselves 😊❤❤

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[@dbiedler]

Thank you.

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[@dear9530]

😊Makes sense. I'll try to be prepared.

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Thank you for brilliant advice Rebecca 😊 God bless you❤

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[@markroachphotography]

makes total sense!!!

[@Msmorningsunrise]

I am not sure about other people but personally I really get a lot more out of examples than I do from written guides or verbal descriptions. For me a brief video enactment of a situation is worth a thousand words. I love your videos and hope that you might include re-enactments of difficult situations like family conflict, work conflict, or conflict with a friend. (frienemy?)

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Great advice

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[@pennymcintyre4403]

SOS is great to use....just the facts...did it and it works awesome...😊

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[@tad1111]

Makes sense.

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[@heidijo5328]

He call me mute and says I never speak but every time I do, he talks over me and shuts me down. That is what I tell him but he continues to shut me down.

[@petethorn8578]

makes sense

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[@clarecollins2547]

Make sense.

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[@benverasso4836]

make sense thank *U*...

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[@mamababy7708]

I think it is more like a cunning manipulative strategy designed to confuse you and making them having the upper hand. Like they are validating them. Instead focus on their needs and wants. For example the purpose of them talking illogical is to get everything on their side, just state that is what you desire the most.

[@luvmypets3194]

Makes sense

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[@imansaade8805]

How I often say to myself- "Is she really worth it?" Or, "Should it be this hard?" Yet, I'm still here lol

[@MrGamman3yt]

My ex and her lawyer are exactly this, but.... Her lawyer looks almost like Ms zung, like 75%. It's hilarious, how can one person be great, and the other not. Drama, trauma and chaos! Makes sense, sos. About to go to questioning, after 7yrs of heck. 60 days!!!

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[@clarecollins2547]

I’d start with can you explain further?

[@doriannemosich232]

Topic is all truth! Still hysterical for obvious reasons!😂😝🥳😉✌

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[@timvollette2636]

Controlling my emotions 😮

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💯 thumbs up 👍🏾 👍🏾👍🏾

[@mahaliacarribon3335]

Make sense

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[@heathersoper6923]

I need to know how to question in court.

[@user-wk5uf6sp5p]

It's an extended exercise In what we have everything means. ❤i😂 have fun in your newest successes

[@whitneysawyer483]

"Makes sense"

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[@user-zz3bz6bs1c]

So I can only listen to a narcissist for a few minuten or 12 minutes.And then they eventually pulling in to their strife. What is it about myself that is incorrect that I would do that???

[@maatthecat3966]

makes sense :)

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[@silverfoxgems]

Thanks for all the advice, I'm not sure how to put it into practice when the Narc (husband & business partner) wants to take drawings out of our business to pay for his holiday and goes into a rage if I try to explain that we can't afford it. By the way he's holidaying on his own as we have officially separated. If he gets this money from the business am I entitled to the same?

[@montanabirdmommy]

Please please please go over this question about assets with your lawyer / attorney / solicitor.

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[@andreash7586]

I am not sure if I really can use these techniques as I am more or less always faced with a Straw doll of me or a situation where always there is a deadline set. threats like "If you don't do this at this date I will meet another guy" My main focus in a discussion is not the topic as the topic is not a reality but a Straw doll, the Straw doll don't exist My question is if a Straw doll had been ,why would she even wanna be with a Straw doll like that (which aint me :) )

[@shaunoconnordotnet]

Hi Rebecca, could you address a situation where the Narcissist communicates only through text and asks only rigid yes or no questions? Attempts to initiate or shift the conversation outside of these narrow parameters (ie: ask questions/ask for clarification/explore other options etc) results in the narc aggressively stonewalling or firing back with toxic ultimatums. Any thoughts?

[@Bb-jm6wx]

What’s there to address? That’s how they are. Why are u trying to have a convo with them in the first place …

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

I know I said it before, but I like you as ASIAN! You are so pretty as

[@fairygurl9269]

"Make it Make Sense" & "The Math Aint Mathing" Resource *Annie Elise ✌️ 😋

[@nicholecornes1915]

Omg the world salad run

[@jamespimentel1794]

I'm so good at this that I can make my malignant narcissist mother say I am mental what she is saying is that she is absolutely disarmed and without affect while your doing that let them understand how ineffectual they are with a dash of their worthlessness

[@TryM.yVivier]

Makes cents

[@sandypurcell756]

I have worked at this job for a month in the south, I'm from the Midwest. At first I thought it was a culture thing but quickly realized this 27 year old controls the office with her drama. She over talks me , she was listening to my phone calls and never told me or the manager she was going to do that. She slams doors at work and the 60 some female manager does nothing. I'm in my fifty's and this girl and her control over this office make no sense.

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[@KL-zg7lu]

Good thing I don't have a boss. I mediated my own custody hearing without an issue. Anyone so illogical as to have me shut down on them, has no self control at all. No one is worth that amount of conflict. It's like trying to reason with Tommy Shelby while he is screaming and attacking people. There is so much damage to others, due to their lack of self-possession. I don't respect irrational people. Damaging others out of a personal vendetta, shows exactly how untrustworthy a person is. There's no winning with people like that. Particularly when they make inappropriate comments on people you are dating, including getting into their home security cameras and watching them masturbating. This is sick. I've cut all contact and this adult sized child is still committing dv.

[@Secret_Life_Saver]

Narcissists think and say they're logical

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[@davidrandall2742]

Remember to use "I" statements: so instead of saying: "You're an idiot.", say: "I think you're an idiot." Follow me for more great confrontation de-escalation tips :) P.S. Good video.

[@user-qt9or4xu9l]

Complete set up I had been out most day much work. No excusei did not execute I was so effected by the words behaviour. Pray restoration Lord whatever.

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[@cherylfleck5606]

What?

[@Fuzzytolee]

The people who stir the pot

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[@Morg_an_me.123]

Since

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[@jenniferbaran1829]

Just try not to

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[@cyny6305]

My sociopath narc sister just repeates the same dumb phrases until you just give up. That' the narc way. Her oldest daughter does the same thing to avoid accountability.

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[@user-qt9or4xu9l]

I have been waiting I forgot name. I shocked off and 2 days ago I was talking how to minimize risk. Man oh man I didnt flip on it came on I lost my had a fit bad. What were is decency talk

[@cherylfleck5606]

This didn't make sense, no logic!

[@cherylfleck5606]

WHAT?

[@macm2373]

Or you can just walk away because they’re so toxic & exhausting! 🤣🙌 Protect Your Peace!💪🙏

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[@daniellatan9016]

Dont argue😂

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[@onecompass7290]

I disagree 100%. NEVER get drawn into conversation aka biting the hook. Just say 'I am not available for disrespectful messages. Then STFU and leave.

[@trkstatrksta8410]

You mean don't take the bait

[@DaveE99]

FYI, cognitive “logic” and “emotional logic” have very different rules. They work nothing alike. And also calling either logic is also wrong as it’s mainly rationalization and if you feel negative you have negative cognitions, if you feel positive and safe you have open and broader cognitions. It’s the emotions that dictate the logic as what has a bigger effect on our cognition is the parts of the brain that evolved first

[@Jim-bt9xd]

YOU MEAN LIKE ARGUEING WITH A """""DEMON"""""""😊------CRAT???

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[@user-dc6wz4dv3l]

Just don't argue with idiots. They usually move in packs and the ring leader is loud and aggressive- herd mentality.

[@GalacticLighthouse]

In asking my husband for clarification on something his usual response is... I'm speaking English, you're a f*ing idiot. That stare trying to stare me down with his statement is such a toddler tantrum. I usually just get up and walk away but sometimes i can't help laughing out loud, then walk away. He's then quiet, distracting himself with his phone for hours.

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[@user-xp3gv1tf1d]

Is this making that nonsense conversation

[@ladylestranj]

You're manipulating people yourself, getting them to engage to help your channel, and trying to sell them books and workshops when they do. Don't bother posting a link in a reply to me, I'm outta here.

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[@Jas-tf9uf]

Make sense

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