I owned an industrial machine supply and repair service for nearly 40 years. In repairing countless bandsaws over the years I balanced the pulley wheels the exact same way. This is the first KZbin video I have seen where balancing is done correctly. I see videos of folks drilling holes in the pulleys to balance them. This hurts the structural integrity of the pulley wheel and permanently damages it whether the pulley is balanced or not. It is much easier to add or subtract weight by balancing the pulley like an automobile tire. Great and informative video!!!👍
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your comments. I totally agree with you and you would be amazed at how much criticism that I have received doing it (the correct way).
@jarmstrong28433 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop Yup… ya get criticism from those least in the know. My reply to them is to ask how auto tires are balanced. Do they drill holes in the wheel or add weights?
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Lol great point. Anytime you are in the public you get criticism. Comes with the job
@jarmstrong28433 жыл бұрын
One thing for folks to be aware of on Ridgid bandsaws and others. This bandsaw was licensed for manufacturer by TTI. This conglomerate of manufacturing facilities makes most of the power tools we use today; whether they are Delta, Craftsman, Ryobi, Milwaukee, Porter Cable, General Machinery, Delta, Grizzly and the list goes on and on. If you have a Ridgid bandsaw, many of the parts from other brands will work quite well. Some of the parts for Ridgid bandsaw are no longer available and this would include other brands that have the same part. So, you’ll have to use some ingenuity to make repairs like what Paw Paw did for this bandsaw. However, in this case a blade tensioner from Porter Cable would have worked very well. I must laugh when I hear how Ridgid saws are pieces of junk and folks look to another brand. Take a look at the design of the other similar brand designs and you will see they are very similar, if not identical to the Ridgid. They all use basically the same parts. The only differences are cosmetic; paint, a different cabinet, decals, etc. SO, PNA to what brand is better than the other. They all come off the same production line.
@dalecharpentier32602 жыл бұрын
AS much as I enjoyed the video, I enjoyed even more the presenter's ease & mien of passing along my needed information. Thank you very much.
@PawPawsWorkShop2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@wiseacredave2 жыл бұрын
I used your techique, and it works great. I used some 1/4 oz self-stick "wheel weights" from Harbor Freight. I needed to attach one on each wheel. It made a huge improvement. Thanks for the tip.
@PawPawsWorkShop2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I happy that it worked for you.
@webneko98423 жыл бұрын
I have this exact same saw that had a lot of wobble. I tried what you did here and it worked very well. Thank you so much for this video!
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I'm so glad that it helped you.
@rce25535 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work!!!! Got the same band saw, same issue. I bought a link beltfrom harbor freight, reversed the pulley on the motor and removed the idle pulley. And run it now in one speed with one belt and that helped reduce some vibration and quieted the machine some. I am going dry your fix next. Thank You
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, every little bits helps to get it run smoother. I gave my other band saw to my oldest son...I wish I had that one back. The old machines work great.
@ERone4312 күн бұрын
Great video. Great way of adding rather than drilling. But what about the weight of the clips??? My engineer brain can’t let it go… I am probably going to use your technique but I think I will use double sided tape at the tuning stage. Thank you for the ideas!!!
@greatlakeswoodworks51229 ай бұрын
Great video Paw Paw, i just picked up a old Delta Rockwell and i plan on going thru and replacing the bearings, tires. And now i will balance as well. Very informed video. Thank you! Subscribed.
@PawPawsWorkShop9 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you very much. It is an excellent bandsaw. I gave mine to my son and he loves it
@MrOso366 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing to my band saw. I used self adhesive weights I got at Harbor freight. I replaced the rubber belt that came with the saw (Ridgid) with a linked belt (also from HF). Additionally I replaced the rubber tires on the two tracking wheels. Made a world of difference.
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's great. Those are all the corrects things to do. In the video, I only wanted to concentrate on the balancing of the wheel. Thank you for your comments
@mattedwards45334 жыл бұрын
I balanced my pulleys a similar way. I used a piece of scotch tape and sheetrock screws to obtain the balance, Sheet rock screws are very light and by adding one or two after a spin of the pulley gave me a fine tune. I then took all the screws and weighed them on my reloading grain scale. I had stick on tire balance weights that I weight on the grain scale . It took two and a part of another and after sticking them on my pulley I was through balancing the wheel. Very little vibration while running my saw now.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. That sounds like a great way to do it. Thank you very much.
@josephhaddakin7095 Жыл бұрын
I happened to watch a restoration video of an old Craftsman 12 inch band saw which I have but don't use because the wheels so ungodly unbalanced. This video sparked a renewed interest in balancing my wheels. My saw almost bounces. A glass of water would probably spill.
@algirdpatrick50486 жыл бұрын
Wrap soft wire solder around the periphery of the wheel opposite the heavy spot till the wheel is balanced - adding or removing solder as needed. When balanced, un-wrap the solder from the wheel, fold it and glue/epoxy to the inside of the wheel. I used that method to balance the horiz drive-shaft on the 1941 SB 9A lathe I am rebuilding. Worked beautifully. The method in the video doesn't compensate for the weight of the clips.
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting idea that I have never thought of before. The glue added to the weights compensates for the clips. Thank you for your comment
@B.A.Bassangler Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paw Paw! Now I have a use for all those ceiling fan weights I just couldn't bring myself to throw away, haha.
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Awesome! That will work!
@ericeinsmann5559 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Paw Paw! Stumpy Nubs mentioned this video and provided a link. So, hopefully you will get some more views on this one! I will have to check my band saw for this problem!
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate you letting me know.
@007connecticut11 ай бұрын
I wonder if a lawnmower blade balancer would work as well?
@PawPawsWorkShop11 ай бұрын
That would be something to try
@gregguarino5632 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm going to try this this weekend. I have a very lightweight skill bandsaw that I got on Craigslist for practically nothing. It works, but the vibration makes it very difficult to use for anything serious. This looks very easy to do, thanks.
@PawPawsWorkShop2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Take you time and you should see a big difference. Much much better than drilling holes in the wheels.
@Rossco2424243 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! I have some lead tape used for golf clubs, I wonder if that would work too?
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Give it a try
@mkbcoolman5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I have the exact same band saw with this exact same issue. I've already done several other upgrades to make it more functional (like a new table and fence system), but I still need to balance the wheels to get it properly tuned and working perfectly.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. The upgrades that you have down sound great. I hope that when you balance the wheels that it will work perfectly for you.
@markbernier84346 жыл бұрын
How much consideration did you give to whether the bearings were "less than perfect"?
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
For the purpose of the video, I did not address the bearing at all. However, you make a very valid point. It is a concern that should be considered.
@rickscarpellotherapy Жыл бұрын
Well damn…. You just saved me all the stress!!!! Thank you Paw Paw!!!!
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching
@lehcim7775 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you said that about drilling the wheels, that it can compromise the integrity of the wheel. I was horrified in other videos when I saw the guy remove material from the wheel with his drill.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@philippe53944 жыл бұрын
Thanks lot for your way to balance wheels on a band saw.It's well explained and result are there!
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@sgvpotter3 жыл бұрын
hello sir, thank you for the tips. I would suggest that the weight of the clip could be offset by adding just a clip to the opposite side of each one that way only the weight of the lead is being accounted for. it also seemed that the bearing needed some graphite or the screw was still a bit too tight as the stop of the fly wheel was rather sudden. i'm currently looking for band saw for resawing purposes. have you installed or know if a riser would work on your saw from HF?
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
I would not recommend this saw for doing resawing lumber.
@johnm.coffey404 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Did the same to my 9" bandsaw but used grey rtv as counter weight. Very sticky stuff.
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great idea
@farazin_choob5 жыл бұрын
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@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words.
@brainwashingdetergent43222 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for the vid! May I ask what is an acceptable amount of in and out (forward and backward) play on the wheels. My top wheel has a bit of play along the “carrier shaft” it rides on, maybe a 1/16”
@PawPawsWorkShop2 жыл бұрын
You may have a bad bearing or maybe it’s just to loose
@lonniefisher22095 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video I will check my wheels to see if they are out of balance I have vibration as well as blade wobble.
@michaelmayo31274 жыл бұрын
There's a problem with bearing friction in your balancing process,the wheel should rock back and forth at the heaviest point before settling. I have been balancing plan-grinding stones for years.Your video is a great initiative and is absolutely relevant. Instead of clips, use double-sided cello tape, this will make the weight-factor of the clips, negligible. Thumps-up.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I appreciate your comments.
@bamamike10135 жыл бұрын
Never even thought about this. I’ll be checking mine now. I do have an audible thump thump thump sound going on.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, I'm glad that I was able to help
@dframed9305 Жыл бұрын
Did you consider the weight of the binder clips or clamps as you call them?
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Yes, as I put the weights on I rechecked and made adjustments when the clips were removed
@hdw5831 Жыл бұрын
To get it right you should place the same clamps on the other side of the wheel, of course without the lead, in order to compensate for the weight of the clamps.
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Excellent point. Thanks for sharing
@umann15575 жыл бұрын
Now that I've learned something I'm going to go check out my HF bandsaw. Thanks for the video..👍
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thank you for watching the video.
@Bright88885 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your helpful video. As you rightly point out, drilling holes to balance the wheel is not a good idea since it reduces the strength of the wheel. To temporarily position the weights, I would suggest using double-sided tape. When you use clips, they add their own weight and reduce the positioning accuracy. The weight of the epoxy that finally replaces the double-sided tape will be very close to the weight of the double-sided tape.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. You have some excellent ideas
@maxwellhouse19025 жыл бұрын
I must snicker at Paw Paw's statement of "losing integrity" by drilling holes in something made in China. There's a funny line out on the internet. What's the only thing at Harbor Freight that's made in the USA? The sales receipt
@shawbros4 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhouse1902 "There's a funny line out on the internet." It might be funny, but not true.
@SterlingStudios Жыл бұрын
But does different manufacturers blade connection method/ width throws this out the window. I mean if i go from a top shelf 1/8" blade to a 3rd party 3/8" blade AND seam placement have that much affect? What about seam placement apples to apples?
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
No, the physics are the same. The width of the blade will determine the exact placement on the wheel. Different manufacturers have slightly different methods for adjustments but the basic principles are the same.
@gotzolones6 жыл бұрын
I did not know where to put the weights and it was good for me to find the balance of my ruffles in the band saw. thanks
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
I am glad that the video helped you. It is much better to add the weight than to drill holes into the wheel that I so often see. Thanks for the comment.
@melvis2017 Жыл бұрын
Was great Sir and thanks for sharing with us this video appreciations for that🇩🇰🙏👍
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure. Thanks for watching
@RicardoPerez-nh1fg5 жыл бұрын
This video is helpful. Thanks for sharing this to all us.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@gerardboucher2453Ай бұрын
Did you consider the weight of the clips?
@PawPawsWorkShopАй бұрын
Yes. Based on my experiments moving slightly outward is all that is necessary
@rbwoodwork18902 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! I’d have to glue my glass of water to the saw table just to show how much it’s out of balance!😉
@lyric.kayden4 жыл бұрын
Is the nut supposed that holds the wheel on supposed to be loose while doing this or snugged up like when the bandsaw is operating? And what if you ever need to get the weights off later down the road or if you mess up? Easy to remove?
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
The nut should be loose. The wheel needs to be as close to free as possible. The weights can be remove with a small tap of a chisel to break the glue loose.
@lyric.kayden4 жыл бұрын
Paw Paw’s WorkShop awesome, thank you very much
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@davidgrant82675 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think this is an issue I have on my band saw. Very helpful.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. This is a very common problem with band saws
@tracyguilbeau6 жыл бұрын
I like to start with putty that has lead shot kneaded into it. The putty will stick on well enough to establish exactly how much weight needs to be added and where... then remove the putty/shot mixture, weigh it, and add exactly that much permanent lead weight to the spot you removed the putty/shot from.
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. It's great to see all the ideas that people have found to do this task. That's what I love about this community.
@sharika4704 жыл бұрын
Clever idea , any thing on how to balance a stone cutting blade ? Thanks
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Not sure, the stones are very heavy to begin with
@fariborzhessabi52733 жыл бұрын
Happy new year thank you very much foe your video God bless you.
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Happy New Year
@garymcmullin22923 жыл бұрын
there is obvious bearing drag dampening the stop of the wheel but your multiple spins still shows the area that is heavy. Those clamps have weight so they rightfully should be included in the total weight added. But you achieved better balance, even though perhaps not exacting because the clamp weights were omitted.
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@fredweaver81945 жыл бұрын
Good info! I also recently purchased a Harbor Freight bandsaw and the motor struggles to get up to speed. Sounds like trying to start your car with an almost dead battery. Any ideas?
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Something is binding. Start with removing the belt and see if the motor runs free with no load. Rotate each wheel without the blade and see if they both turn freely. Next add each item back one at a time and test. Hope this will help you
@waynewaltner4135 жыл бұрын
The Chinese motors, like those from harbor freight, have notoriously terrible centrifugal switches. They also usually have an open frame motor on them. So, a little bit of dust gets on the contacts, not allowing it to start. Check the switch by blowing the motor cover out with air. If that doesn’t work, pull the cover on that side and spray the switch down with contact cleaner. While you have the motor cover off, spray the moving parts of the switch down with some silicone spray. After you blast all the cosmoline goo off with contact cleaner. If you have a meter, check the continuity on the switch. It should have continuity one way or the other. You also may need to move the switch slightly to get the circuit to open or close properly. The other likely candidate would be the capacitor on the switch. If you have a DMM with with cap test, you can test it that way. You can also check the cap by using an ohm meter. Put the leads on in one direction and watch the needle or readout. If it does nothing, reverse the leads. If it then starts to climb, the cap is most likely good. Although this is not the best way of diagnosing, it will do in a pinch. My money is on dirty contacts on centrifugal switch contacts. Some of the cosmoline hf spreads on their tools to keep them glued together, may have melted off the shaft or bearings, causing your contact issues. This all may sound difficult or daunting, but, it is fairly simple. Make sure your cap is discharged and your unit is unplugged. Hope you get or got it fixed!
@stephanieray65874 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paw Paw! Just got my first Delta 14 from the Seventies; let's see how the wheels are!
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Great! Those old band saws are excellent. Most likely just need a little maintenance.
@GraemePayne1967Marine4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial - I may need to do this inn the future. Could you discuss your overall impression of this bandsaw? I want to get one in the next few months, and this particular one is on my short list.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Keep in mind that this is a very low end bandsaw. You will most likely have to balance the wheels. It is difficult to resaw on it. The blade wants to wander no matter how I adjust it. The saw works for me mainly because I do not use the band saw that much. If you are planning to use it a lot I would strongly consider upgrading to a better saw.
@MrGrundle11 ай бұрын
Good video, thanks! I've been having a vibration issue with mine that is driving me mad. Shakes like a fat woman twerking on a folding card table 🤪 I added link belts but it continued. Tightened the belts as I thought they may be a bit sloppy and it helped. I was running it at 1582 fpm and changing it to 1080 fpm additionally helped. I have to admit way too many modifications on a new machine! Can I ask what speed you are running?
@PawPawsWorkShop11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I’m not sure of the RPMs. I gave this saw to my son after the upgrades
@johnfisher49104 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Having the same issue with my old Ridgid 14" band saw.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help. You're very welcome.
@russellfaque78445 жыл бұрын
I replaced the v-belt with linked belts from lee valley to help smooth mine out too.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestion. I will do that at sometime in the future. Thank you very much.
@williambranham62495 жыл бұрын
Is it necessary or helpful to remove the wheel and balance in the horizontal plane? Good video.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
That is one way to balance the wheel, but, it is a lot of extra work.
@williambranham62495 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop I'm sure . I wasn't clear with my question. Does vertical imbalance cause the majority of the vibration?
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
There actual are a number of reasons that can cause the vibration. You must start with one and continue to solve each issue. The wheels, the tires, bearing, pulleys, and the belt on the pulley. How the machine sits on the floor even can cause problems. It is a lot of trial and error to solve the problems.
@normanziegelmeyer76935 жыл бұрын
Like your video, what were you looking for after initially clamping the weights when retesting(as far as stopping position of the wheel)? Thanks
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Once the wheel is balanced, you can spin the wheel and it will stop at random points. If it is still out of balance, the wheel will always stop with the heavy side at the bottom.
@normanziegelmeyer76935 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've had a shopsmith for about 25 years and lived unknowingly with two wheels out of balance, now thanks to your video I have balanced wheels and much smoother operation..
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, great to hear stories like this. Thank you
@kennethkeyser75334 жыл бұрын
Can I ask, please, how you got the wheels to spin so freely? Mine spin, but not enough to determine heavy spots. I want to remove the wheels to see what’s going on, but I can’t figure out that either...any thoughts would be appreciated.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Loosen the nut that holds the wheel in place. Please make sure that the power is disconnected before you begin.
@kennethkeyser75334 жыл бұрын
Paw Paw’s WorkShop I’ve got the nut off...I can’t figure out why it won’t spin more freely. I even tried a gear puller, and I can’t budge it. Thanks for the reply though. Maybe I just need a bigger hammer. 😁
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Are the bearings ok? I have not remove the wheel but is there a snap ring holding it on?
@kennethkeyser75334 жыл бұрын
Paw Paw’s WorkShop not sure on the bearings. I guess not, if yours is spinning so freely with no problem. It’s only a few months old, so it must have been that way when I bought it. The parts schematic shows a snap ring behind the bearing sleeve, but I can’t figure out how to get the sleeve off to get to the ring...it’s very frustrating, because mine is vibrating as bad if not worse than yours. Thanks for the continued support! You have a great channel.
@kennethkeyser75334 жыл бұрын
Paw Paw’s WorkShop I got it off! Gear puller and lots of WD-40. now to balance on a lawnmower blade balancer. Thanks for your help! Keep up the great content. Mike
@TheChunder36 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the weight of the clips you used to hold the weights have an impact on the balance once removed?
@dianastasny93385 жыл бұрын
What about the weight of the epoxy which replaces them? Also the results speak for them selves.
@deadwoodturning88045 жыл бұрын
Yes they do! The method works, but then you should have weighed the collective mas of the clips and the weights and then glued on additional weight to account for the clips. The epoxy does have some weight, but its not even close to how much the clips weigh.
@valuepurposemission75175 жыл бұрын
would bringing the bearings up to op temp speed this process up?
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
It would make very little difference in this type of application. If it were a much larger and heavier type of equipment it would make a greater impact. After the wheel is balanced the next biggest improvements would be new tires and new belt for the motor.
@coffeeman94753 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you consider the weight of the clips? Are the clips weightless?
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
By moving the weights out just a little further, it offsets the clips.
@coffeeman94753 жыл бұрын
Point taken, better option would be double sided sticky tape. My two cents worth.
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
That certainly one way to do it. The nice thing about doing woodworking is that there are many ways to accomplish the same task.
@mikebeaumont1375 жыл бұрын
Excellent thank you very much have learnt a hell of a lot once again well done.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@909sickle4 жыл бұрын
What would you do if the wheel spins back 1" regardless of how the wheel is rotated when you let go?
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a heavy side of the wheel. If it constantly goes to the same place each time that shows a definite heavy point.
@909sickle4 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop It would always move about 1", always landing in different places. I removed the wheel from the bandsaw and did find a heavy side, so I balanced it. It did seem to help a little with vibration. I dressed the blade and helped a little more. I removed the bottom wheel, but not sure how to balance that one, since it's keyed and driven directly by a shaft (has no bearing). But it does seem fairly well balanced already. I've never seen anyone have a test for side to side balance (i.e. tilt). You'd think if the front side was heavier than the back side that would cause vibration, but perhaps not. I got new blades from TimberWolf and they're vibrating like crazy. They sent me replacements and they're better, but still vibrate a lot. My other blades don't vibrate much, so I'm not sure if TimberWolf blades have issues or if it's just because they're heavier.
@waynevernon6860 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing.
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching my videos.
@GobiAtanari4 жыл бұрын
thanks for explaining. very use full...
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@steveoverton17365 жыл бұрын
What about the weight of the clips?
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
The clips add very little weight. Slide the weights out just a little more to compensate.
@PaulChandler19515 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop Or you could just add empty clips on the opposite side of the wheel to balance out the clips holding the weights?
@aevoguitars25763 жыл бұрын
When its balanced it stops in random places?
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct. Thank you.
@aevoguitars25763 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop thanks.
@kailetaylor0212 жыл бұрын
Very smart! Great video, thank you
@PawPawsWorkShop2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@KuehlEngineering3 жыл бұрын
I too had a 14” bandsaw, I will be posting a video of it shortly. I ended up going with the fenner power twist belts. They reduce vibration quite a bit! I would suggest looking into them for this. It appears that the upper bearing may need some lubrication here as well. Great video, thanks for sharing!
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
I had to loosen the bolt a little more. I also have completed the lower wheel and have it balanced. You are correct in the different belts. Thank you for your comments.
@AWoodworkersLife5 жыл бұрын
Regarding it being “noisy” at the beginning of the video.... Your guide blocks are too tight, or the blade is a cheap blade and the weld isn’t ground down enough. In extreme cases this can cause head bounce.
@cathysoldan65405 жыл бұрын
very informative, thanks, I've subscribed. Looking forward to seeing what else you do in the shop.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you very much
@bluehoo05 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the video, will try it myself.👍
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I hope that it works for you.
@kirbylee57 Жыл бұрын
A few times your wheel stopped suddenly instead of going back and forth which indicates it was still a little tight, but it got close enough.
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Yes, I want the wheel loose but not too loose. I did have to adjust the tension for the wheel to turn freely
@nebegdj59545 жыл бұрын
a nice video , father paw always be carefull with this saw its so dangeous, actualy i am so phobic to machins like this ,god bless you
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Yes, I will be careful
@michaelvanderhooft66855 жыл бұрын
Liked the method and will use it on my bandsaw, thank you
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, it should work well for you. Keep in mind if you have new tires it will help also. Thank you for your comments.
@dalemoser582410 ай бұрын
Did anyone think about the weight of the clips?
@PawPawsWorkShop10 ай бұрын
Yes, you have to check and double check to get the balance correct
@peakepottery90744 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'll try this as my bandsaw has just started juddering
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
If it just started, then it may be something else. May be a bearing or something is loose. Thank you.
@peakepottery90744 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShopThanks. It has been standing unused for a few years so I have a few things to check, including the belt. It certainly won't do any harm to balance the wheels anyway
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Belts might be the biggest concern
@Chris-oy1tm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@PawPawsWorkShop2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@evelitalian3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME JOB
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@XaltLures5 жыл бұрын
You could glue the weights on the backside of the wheel sir. Thanks for sharing!
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea, thank you
@XaltLures5 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop ..You are welcome sir! I restore vintage bandsaw machines.
@squarelevelplumb4 жыл бұрын
did you take the weight of the clips into consideration??? You used the weights with clips, but only glued the clips on.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Very little consideration, remember the glue it self has weight. Is it perfect, no, but it is close.
@theimpulse774 жыл бұрын
This was my question too. So you think the weight of the epoxy used is fairly close to the weight of the clips? I guess if you wanted to be sure you could weigh those using something very accurate like a powder scale and use enough epoxy to equal the weight of the clips. Not sure it’s necessary with the results you got.
@hanspijpers21005 жыл бұрын
could you not use some rare earth magnets ? nice video never checked my machine will do it today thanks again
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
You could but I would be afraid that they would move with the wheel spinning.
@alland12415 жыл бұрын
Not for this video, the wheels are Aluminium
@GWAYGWAY14 жыл бұрын
Where do you get steel clip thar do not weigh anything? It vibrated the same at the end as the begining.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
The balance was much better and that was with doing only one wheel.
@hjbolds4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information good stuff
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍. Glad that it helped yu
@maxwellhouse19025 жыл бұрын
Current price on the Central Machinery floor standing band saw is $374 and change plus tax.. For the same money and an afternoon spent at a school or other auction ( or searching CL or FBMP), you could have bought a vintage US made Delta or other brand band saw and not had balance, quality control or other issues. Getting a Hernia loading it into the truck might be the only big down side to that strategy Had my CM machine vibrated that bad out of the box, it would have gone back to the store and I would have demanded a new one and kept on returning them until one functioned properly. Ofd course, if you've already been through 3 or 4 of them, then I guess it's time to use Paw Paw's technique, I checked the wheels on both the bench top and floor standing Taiwanese made Craftsman band saw duo I currently have and neither of them showed any signs of imbalance...and they're over 40 years old.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your opinion. Old tools and large floor models are generally much better. You have some excellent ideas.
@peymanguitars24944 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much🌹🌹🌹
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome
@koonelos Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
@shaunofthedead30005 жыл бұрын
.25oz automotive stick wheel weights...box of 30 for around 18 to 30 dollars and they stick for you. Soft enough you can trim them if needed too.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. Thank you.
@lint20235 жыл бұрын
Being that the wheel didn't rock back and forth like a pendulum and settle out, the bearings were too tight to get an better balance. But, this is a good approach and you made much headway.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@brucewelty76845 жыл бұрын
the clips weigh as much as the weight does. Why not double sticky tape them on?
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Double stick tape is a good idea. The clips are very light and much lighter than the weights. Thank you very much.
@patprop744 жыл бұрын
As much as I like your demonstration on how to help to balance the bandsaw wheels, if anyone would ever put a glass of water on any of my tools cast iron surfaces, they would be literally kicked out of the shop, My table saw still shows the scars of someone putting a cup of coffee on it years ago! but a nice little video!
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
I thought long and hard how to show the improvement on the balance. The only thing that I could think of was the water of the table. It was only for the video. I have to agree that it can definitely cause a problem with the cast iron table top. Thank you very much for your comments.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
I thought long and hard how to show the improvement on the balance. The only thing that I could think of was the water of the table. It was only for the video. I have to agree that it can definitely cause a problem with the cast iron table top. Thank you very much for your comments.
@MarkMcCluney5 жыл бұрын
Good job mate, thanks.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@eagleeye761 Жыл бұрын
excellent!
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@maxwellhouse19025 жыл бұрын
At least with drilling holes, you won't have to worry about the weights coming unglued. A short sidebar about proper surface preparation for the weights and wheels might have been helpful once the proper weight and location had been determined.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
That's always a possibility.
@ArcticFlies565 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you.
@stewartmackay5395 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid. Many thanks. Surely the clips would add weight so the reading is not true. Stick them on temporarily with masking tape. That's what I do balancing my motorcycle wheels.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Thanks
@hussainali99995 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@garnerboyd42063 жыл бұрын
Use a lawnmower blade balance Jig. A metal cone on a point. Hardware Store has them.
@PawPawsWorkShop3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that will work. I have not use one of those for years. Thanks for the reminder
@Pushyhog Жыл бұрын
over here at ft bragg fayetteville
@PawPawsWorkShop Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Mascotal6 жыл бұрын
Looks like the spoke is the heavy part. As soon as you spread out the weights it got even.
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
I think you are correct. The most important thing is that I would rather add weight than to drill holes in the wheel which would weaken it. Thanks for the comments
@Mascotal6 жыл бұрын
@@PawPawsWorkShop Agreed Paw. Imagine if you got new tires on your car and the shop drilled holes in your rims to try and balance them. I had a rigid 14 inch bandsaw at one point, and that's exactly what they did.
@PawPawsWorkShop5 жыл бұрын
That's terrible. I hate to see holes drilled into the wheel
@billbasta15484 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@garyscullion88326 жыл бұрын
Great video , some really good ideas . airborne .....
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@barrysearles97156 жыл бұрын
Good job
@PawPawsWorkShop6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@hkkhgffh36135 жыл бұрын
Booyakasha! Stay straigt, stay safe!
@bigfoottoo28414 жыл бұрын
You have some bearing drag
@PawPawsWorkShop4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was still too tight and I had to loosen it more to properly test it