HOW TO: BASSAI DAI | Shito ryu & Shōtōkan Karate Kata with Lena Mayer & Fiore Tartaglia

[@fioretartaglia]

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[@christianmadarasz9236]

I just went to your webstire - all the links are broken for the books :(

[@loki200]

@@christianmadarasz9236 Hey ho, just checked it, seems to work again.

[@greenshifu]

Lovely kata's. Could I ask about why the shuto in the shotokan version has the thumb sticking out like that? I was always taught thumb against the hand. Thank you.

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[@claytonarlo8524]

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[@Benny10001]

Excellent comparison. As a shito ryu student I thought the lady was excellent. Fascinating to see the other style’s interpretation.

[@manasyaasharmahazarika5128]

Hi I am also a Shitoryu student. And I am indian

[@k.games72]

Hey I am a shotokhan student and now I am a black belt 🥋 but I really like your style and now I we’ll gone learn how to play bassi die on your style

[@nancykhro5443]

I’m a shotokan, too. I will do the exam for black belt tomorrow. I really like your style though, I would like to learn it if I become black belt!

[@craftiipie7399]

I am also a shito ryu karate student

[@BelloBudo007]

I'm sorry, I do not speak German. However please allow me to say that in my opinion, this is a very good demonstration of the two schools because it allows the viewer to concentrate on just a few kata movements at a time, and this really helps to illustrate both the similarities and the differences. Many thanks.

[@sumannandy5469]

Super

[@dpigg1]

His is not a good demonstration actually a very poor one

[@reinhardf.6581]

@@dpigg1 It is not difficult to make a banal judgment, but it is a bit more complex to provide a constructive explanation. Perhaps you can explain your factual thoughts to us in a few words?

[@gladyznovb.gliponeo9450]

Shitoryu bassai dai.. My first winning kata 😍

[@dr.gregstory6119]

Shitoryu is so refined, clean and beautiful to watch

[@jarnojuusola6611]

This demonstration was actually very fascinatin. It's extremely educational when you see the differences between styles of the basically the same martial art. I enjoyed watching this.

[@666Havers]

mabuni and funakoshi prob learnt them from itosu but shotokans was changed to fit the style aesthetically.

[@44excalibur]

@@666Havers Funskoshi modified the Shorin Ryu syllabus considerably to create Shotokan to make it more compatible with the Japanese culture. This was unnecessary by the time Mabuni created Shito Ryu, which is why it still closely resembles Shorin Ryu. But it also incorporates Goju Ryu as well, so you're learning a lot more than Shotokan teaches.

[@pratyushgamer10]

Shotokan karate is best containing perfect stance ,speed, expression and with lots of power💪

[@mingimoiaspioon3786]

Shito Ryu is more quick and lashing out, while Shotokan is more raw strength and power. Both are great styles, and it is very interesting to see them side by side. Good job the the demonstrators!

[@watch006]

I practiced shotokan and it took me a while to learn to apreciate other styles and combat sports and learn from them. I still love shotokan as my base/core style. I think this was and excellent comparison and I personally liked the performance of you both. On top of that the girl is very beautiful. Keep the good work!!

[@themadrazorback2019]

Bravo! Side by side stylistic differences! Thanks.

[@TheRDCG31]

Incluso entre diferentes escuelas/organizaciones del mismo estilo, pueden haber diferencias sutiles. Sin embargo, aquí vemos que aunque la ejecución difiere en algunos aspectos, la esencia se mantiene. Felicitaciones a ambos!

[@garycleveland6410]

This is very educational for those wishing to understand the similarities and differences in how kata are performed in different styles of Karate

[@jimloth6091]

Interesting! I'm a Shido-kan student and can see a little of our version in both, and many differences with both as well. Thank you!

[@jkadude2010]

Excellent both well done.

[@frankie7033]

Both katas looked amazing. Oss!

[@karate357]

Excellent presentation by both.

[@wickedcrypto6004]

This is a fantastic example. When I first started karate my Dojo teach Shito Ryu I remember this because of the unique way I learned Bassai and as my Dojo progress with time we ended up adapting Shotokan. I have never ask my Sense why we ended up doing this transition but I think it had to do with our Dojo joining the Japanese federation called JKS. Over all no regrets I love Shotokan Bassai Dai is one of my favorite kata's but looks amazing in Shito Ryu

[@OMARAB-s2v]

both of them have done a great job

[@stettan1]

Very interesting indeed! I was brought up in goju ryu but is converting to shotokan. The shito ryu version would of course be a lot more natural for me😁

[@mykaratejournal2120]

it is a pleasure to watch two great performances side-by-side. good idea and thanks for sharing. OSU!!

[@fioretartaglia]

thanks :)

[@sokolktk2662]

Very interesting experiment

[@michael.schuler]

Very interesting and valuable presentation. With an open mind, regardless of one's personal training lineage, one can see a kind of archaeology of the art. Whether one accepts differences as valid variations or even improvements on what one was taught --- or rejects them as mistaken or clearly inferior --- this comparative video invites one to consider what one does and why. The ability to make the most of this video pends the viewer's level, not style. Thank you for posting.

[@michael.schuler]

@goggles789 Sorry. My intent was quite opposite the way you took it. My comment was meant to compliment the video and render respect to all styles, while acknowledging that the natural inclination, at least in my case, to instinctively think that what one was taught and invested time in learning is the "true" way should not close one's eyes to the possibility of learning something new. In saying that the ability to analyze and make conclusions about the differences between the styles pends one's level, I was actually thinking that I myself, for one, might not have sufficient experience or expertise to make such judgments yet. Not sure what caused your response to my comment, but I hope this clarifies.

[@watch006]

When I started shotokan as a teenager I was very closed minded. It took me years to open my mind and be able to enjoy and learn from other styles, and other martial arts and combat sports. And I should say it is a very rewarding experience. I still love shotokan as my base style and as the first physical excersice I ever practiced, I may own to my karate training whatever good physical condition I have nowadays. And yes tracking the original techniques and aplications of kata is also a very interesting and rewarding task, regardless of the fact that I am acustomed to perform the katas with a shotokan style. (sorry for the bad english)

[@FrankLavoy]

Absolutely stunning! Bravo! ... two years late as of this comment ... but still, Bravo!

[@brycef35]

Probably my favorite kata

[@davidgoulois469]

Sensei j'adore vos vidéos. Un grand merci. Pouvez-vous envisager de faire de nouvelles vidéos de comparaisons entre styles de karaté ?

[@fioretartaglia]

I thank you for your opinion. It is not easy to find a person willing to make such a video. In this case, it resulted from a training course. If it comes up again, gladly!

[@bijoyroy11]

thanks for the upload.

[@stoic_rhino580]

Thank you for sharing this. Very elegant demonstration.

[@fioretartaglia]

thank you :)

[@loki200]

I love to compare Kata's especially "older" to "newer", or the Okinawan version to the Japan one. It's amazing to see how Kata evolve. I could imagin if you put Matsumura -, Shito -, Itosu no passai and than Bassai dai at the end, it would give an amazing shot. Thanks for this Video, have a great time!

[@osoriocunha3959]

Lindo a diferença de estilo, muito lindo e perfeito, parabéns!!!😆👍

[@kazuonakamura5530]

amazing

[@ryanjandu4968]

This was awesome. Would love more examples.

[@Lasanimasryukyukempo]

Ryan Jandu me too :)

[@zyx7478]

Both have their good parts in that Shito Ryu looks very artistic Shotokan is vicious I have studied both arts throughout my life

[@allanlima2702]

Oss! Ótimo demonstração. Prova que o Karatê é único, com detalhes sutis que o diferencia na ênfase dada nos golpe de fada estilo. ❤

[@faaffairs]

Grazie !! Una bellissima dimostrazione !!

[@fioretartaglia]

Grazie! :-)

[@edgartovar1408]

I practice shotokan, but in my opinion bassai dai shito ryu it's very elegant.

[@Xinsama]

Masterful performances.

[@captainbeaver_man903]

This is my favorite Kata after Kanku Dai. Ive seen so many variations and all of them are great!

[@aksharamehta639]

Thank you so much sir and mam tomorrow is my black belt examination and this kata is going to be asked

[@fioretartaglia]

I hope you had a good exam!

[@jamjuridico]

Excelente!!!! Muy Bien tecnica.

[@josebh81]

Muy bueno ambos. Saludos desde Lima Perú.

[@teskabajemo4043]

Shotokan kata is best wow❤

[@mandrakemandrake7777]

Thank God I studied shotokan.

[@ChrisAdamsDreaming]

I study shotokan at the IJKA. The bassai dai we do there is a bit like a combination of both of these. For example, we use the cat stance the woman does at 0:50

[@deadmike2]

Asai Ryu? any video example?

[@solnaciente.9704]

Shito Ryu...hasta el fin!!. Oss!!

[@muhammadalphafuadi2515]

i guess the guy was shotokan and the woman was shito-ryu

[@44excalibur]

Yep, the Shito Ryu version is the same as the Shorin Ryu version. You see the same differences when Shotokan is performed side by side with Shorin Ryu.

[@AmbabangilVlogs]

dont guess its obvious

[@TeamGAJU]

Isn't it obvious?

[@gaelbgalbar9307]

True. I know this kata in shito ryu.

[@kevlarchicken]

shotokans longer stances are purely for leg strength and speed if you can move in a low stance then you can move faster in a higher easier stance once you hit black belt you start training in more natural stances kata however remains the same personaly i would have liked shotokans kata to have stayed closer to the source material

[@RamsesTheGreater]

Awesome showcase

[@worthlessorchestra9772]

Wow

[@masterrkflyingsquadacademy7542]

Wow Super ❤️❤️

[@EyescatUrmah]

Shito Ryu ❤...siempre!!!

[@robertocastro1705]

Sin duda shotokan

[@COMB0RICO]

Thanks from Texas!

[@fioretartaglia]

Greetings back to Texas!

[@Mulberry2000]

Both are excellent.

[@fioretartaglia]

That's great to hear, thank you!

[@carlosadrianonunes]

Good demonstration.

[@user-xh2jz6jc4q]

Very Nice. Amazing Form, Nice & Clean. If I could just add anything I'd add a camera down so the form can be seen while your back is to us.. would like to know anyway what I'm missing if anything so I can do it correctly.. Thank You

[@billyprendergast6631]

Power vs.speed. great technique.

[@deadmike2]

yeah, finally someone got it!

[@watch006]

I would love to see a comparison between the Sanchin kata of the shotokan style with the one from the Goju ryu style. I practice shotokan but I love the power of the Goju ryu´s Sanchin kata.

[@sanseiryu]

Shotokan does not have Sanchin in the curriculum.

[@martinpugh8153]

I assume you mean sochin from shotokan my martial arts brother? It's a very different mate I'm afraid though. Nearest comparison I can think of would be shotokan 's hangetsu shown in contrast with goju ryu sanchin. Though only the start of the katas are similar. I remember only way I stopped my shotokan muddling up my kyokushin kata was that one was right leg forward 1st and other was left leg forward. It's good for you to learn cross styles so you don't get too bogged down in 'style'. Good luck in your future martial art quests

[@ВиталикМельник-д2й]

The best!!!

[@glove5380]

Awesome! Shotokan still looks the best.

[@samuelsilver4485]

In my opinion shitoryu looks more fluid and smooth

[@paulyarlett1238]

I know this as a shotokan kata it's interesting to see a different version of it

[@yanillgner5456]

Beautiful!

[@salvosensei1]

Preferisco la versione shotokan 💪💪💪🙏Oss

[@vitordiniz75]

Muito legal! OSS

[@ZenvoGlob]

Really very interesting. Thank you but Shito ryu for ever !

[@fioretartaglia]

at least pro Karate :D

[@marianochavez3874]

Ok, magníficos videos y tutoriales

[@fioretartaglia]

I'm glad to hear that, thank you!

[@brannco75]

Magnifico. Auguri. Great performance.

[@fioretartaglia]

Grazie :)

[@Sapiperah3783]

It's so cool 😍

[@leiferikson2072]

My self, Goju- Ryu Karate Do. I think, i love Shito- Ryu, it's not so hard like Shotokan. Sorry, my english is so " mad " 🙈

[@andrewlaw8121]

Ages ago I did a Korean variant (Bassa hyung) when I was practicing moo duk Kwan taekwondo. There was Japanese influences on Korean martial arts in this system.

[@ShidenByakko]

There's sources that say that TKD isn't truely original and it derives itself from the pre-existing Japanese styles... But that's what I've been told from a life-long fellow martial artist that's studies TKD for decades......

[@watch006]

I have practiced different martial arts and I personally enjoy reasearching about them. From what I know Taekwondo´s real origin was the shotokan karate introduced by the japanese during the Korea ocupation. However for nationalistic reason Korea (and korean´s) is not going to accept they based their art on some invaders art. Until today the relationship between Korea and Japan is not very kind. Bassa Hyung is not the only kata that is very similar, all the 5 heian katas (also named pinan katas) and the tekki kata of the shotokan style are very similar to taekwondo katas, with only some aded movements or switching punches to kicks. I have practiced both shotokan and taekwondo and thats when I first noticed this. Taekwondo has evolved in its own way and nowadays is very different from karate. (sorry for the bad english)

[@sanseiryu]

@@watch006 Tang Soo Do is was based on Okinawan Shorin Ryu. Shorin Ryu was the basis for Shotokan.

[@MohamedAli-uy6cy]

Awesome 👌

[@jhman9901]

Interessanti gli altri stili fa venire voglia di provarli.

[@Priestbokmei1]

She’s pretty good; enjoyed her kata

[@brettbarager9101]

I think the guy was Shito Ryu . . . her stances were deeper than what I have done in Shito Ryu . . . however, neither kata looked quite the way I learned Bassai dai . . . However, I really appreciated the side by side comparison. Good job!

[@MarcioNSantos]

The man was Shotokan.

[@danbanan1195]

Brett: your wrong

[@unnikrishnan953]

👍👍👍

[@gabrielecaccialanza]

Good demonstration

[@fioretartaglia]

Thank you!

[@fredericvillaume]

Merci beaucoup pour cette comparaison

[@velvetbrick428]

🇲🇽🤠🇺🇸 You can tell which student represents shito-Ryu just by the stances before Kate starts 1.mind & body become 1 (crossing open hands) 2. 2 first 1 first width apart ready stance. too both well done OSS!!

[@fioretartaglia]

Thank you!

[@devaprayagkdlr3778]

shotokan -back stance shito ryu-cat stance

[@vimpex5157]

I do shito-ryu and I love the cat stance

[@devaprayagkdlr3778]

@@vimpex5157 I do both

[@Sahil-xf3sm]

its not the back stance... In shotokan its the tiger stance

[@DivyenduKashyap]

I had no idea that different styles had different versions of the same kata, albeit quite similar.

[@dinacorrea4707]

I learned this kata as a red belt in tae Kwon do, slightly different.

[@adityalegowo7480]

Every ryuha has its own style. And as a pupil, he or she should be proud of it without discredit other ryuha and its style.

[@fioretartaglia]

word!

[@ramicanub]

Hermosas ambas katas

[@fioretartaglia]

Thank you!

[@speedbox569]

糸東流の女性はまだ初段ですか。良いですね。凄く良いと思います。協会の男性は流石ですね。羨ましいです。

[@tulipanoir]

Great performance both NKK old school and Shito-Ryu 👍

[@bobbybhurtun717]

Oss..its not the style that matters..its how good you are in what you do..

[@juanmma7982]

i have learn shito ryu and after recycled me in shotokan (no choices no shito ryu in my town) but now i rather shotokan / wado ryu

[@view1110]

Great!

[@san-rei-karate262]

Both very very good exelent👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪🥋👏😀

[@fioretartaglia]

Thank you!

[@deadmike2]

shito ryu girl did a wonderfull tournament kata. the shotokan guy did it traditionally. Left looks better, right is more power

[@theritualist5175]

Marvellous

[@nirukaruhunage724]

Watching these two different katas, I am wondering whether the Shito-Ryu is created to the people who actually can't do the Shotokan katas. Because the stance and the techniques in shotokan seems to be difficult than the Shito-Ryu version. I understanding these are two different style, I don't know how to judge these two versions of the Katas in a same competition.

[@fioretartaglia]

to "judge" kata is difficult even for referees, it is always subjective. This video only wants to show the paralleles and differences of those two styles: the speed and short stance of Shito ryu and the force and long stance of Shotokan.

[@watch006]

Both styles, shito ryu and shotokan share the same origin, thats why the kata are so similar. Shotokan evolved into deeper stances, I believe this was done looking for more stability and power and also is a good tool in training the strength of the legs. Shotokan changed the cat stance (neko ashidachi) for the deeper back stance (kokutsudachi) in most kata. I personally train shotokan and I love it but I also like to research into other styles and martial arts history. (sorry for the bad english)

[@balermapsychobilly]

GREAT VIDEO. OSS🙏

[@fioretartaglia]

thank you :)

[@fioretartaglia]

thanks :)

[@danyfatah93]

SHOTOKAN more better 😁👍👍

[@AnilKumar-kk9mx]

too good

[@tunkuhalim8821]

Would be interesting if you had also added a Wado Ryu version to the demo

[@fioretartaglia]

This was a demonstration within a course (Shito ryu and Shotokan). Should the opportunity arise to do the same with Wado ryu, I will gladly make a video. Thanks for your interest!

[@qfbjoelsalazar3451]

Shito Ryu son movimientos naturales ergonómicos con claros vectores de aplicación de fuerza aplicada en un punto manteniendo siempre la vertical. Maravilla de material gracias desde México.

[@pedro56aysende]

Super super geil perfekt traumhaft.

[@fioretartaglia]

Danke :-)

[@larskagg4629]

They both are just showing the technics. An easy to fallow demonstration. If anyone in this comment section can do better the show is all. Stop saying it wasn’t good blah blah blah. Please Be positive. It’s just a comparison

[@StuffWhatGoesBoom]

More of this.

[@JoshIsles]

Shotokan doesn't seem to have kihon dachi (basic/medium stance). Always seems to be in zen kutsu dachi

[@jakubfoltyn5550]

Maybe he is doin it old way, but nowadays some techniques in bassai are trained differently, and sometimes i can see his back foot in not so good connection with the floor, but as a demonstrantion between two styles - very good example :) but i dont know how many points would i give him at a JKA competition. :)

[@vaishalimaskar1867]

nice

[@master_bos_]

my shito ryu