How To Beat A Poker Player Who Has GOD MODE

[@roadhockey]

He needs to balance his cheating range.

[@shantkhoshafian8698]

Lol

[@RaulGroom]

Actually he has a very balanced cheating range; I've been editing footage of him all day. He has: 1) hands that are pretty normal that he plays pretty normally. 2) Hands where he has a very weak holding that just happens to be good where he extracts amazing value from the hand that's second best. 3) Hands like this one where his opponent has him beat but on a scary board where opponent must call an enormous river bet with a hand that should never be good. 4) Hands where he has an extremely weak holding that has enough equity against his opponent's exact hand in order to continue profitably, that will then extract value perfectly once made and 5) hands where he has an extremely strong holding that nonetheless always bets more or less exactly what opponent should be willing to call with their own holding on that particular street. This is a very balanced strategy that allows him to make +EV decisions on every street of every hand except in those spots where the implied odds of moves he could make on later streets outweight the -EV of the decision he's making on the current street. It seems that unfortunately Mike has given off some strange tells in various hands, not only this one but also in other hands. Of great interest at the moment specifically are the hands where the RFID system either cannot see Mike's cards or mislabels Mike's cards until it becomes clear that Mike might have to show a different hand than the one the graphic says that he has. These hands in my view will reveal the specific mechanism by which Mike gets the information to make these plays, because they represent moments when the show did not go as planned and had to be altered during the broadcast in order to make sense.

[@the-chillian]

@@RaulGroom By a "balanced cheating range" one might also include losing a few hands on purpose, and making purposefully bad river decisions, so that your results aren't quite so massive a statistical anomaly. This is how it's evident he's cheating without seeing the exact mechanism by which he's doing it. His results are SO improbable, especially given his play style, that cheating is actually much more probable than a heater.

[@maracaiba2891]

He could do a middle-of-the-road cheat, but I'd also recommend he balance his strategy by working in some swindling or even some blackmail from time to time.

[@sneakkyz3696]

Hilarious

[@peperami254]

6:37 "Do you think the stream adds an element to the decision" Well it's definitely adding an element to SOMEONE's decisions.

[@MonkeyFreeZone]

and here I thought he said "do you think the cheating adds an element to the decision" ...

[@jerodcurtis2731]

Why don’t you call it “Postle hands”?

[@mrvaultguy1118]

for fucks sake 😂

[@SUBSUB-jl6jk]

Cheating hands? Guess it’s the same thing

[@Russian5]

? Because Apostle hands is way better.

[@billbill8649]

The sickest part is that the commentators always try to justify what Postle(God) does They are totally involved in this

[@gjchawks17]

I don't know if they are involved in the cheating itself but they are involved in talking him up so that no viewer should be suspicious that he wins or makes ridiculous plays. Might be under some order from Justin to talk him up yet not know why besides "we need a hero".

[@RaulGroom]

@@gjchawks17 I haven't ruled out complicity beyond just the one confederate but I do not yet see any evidence that anyone else NECESSARILY knows for certain what is going on. My guess is that this was pitched to the commentators as "we know this guy who always wins, it's crazy, we're going to make a stream about him it'll be great fun" and they went along with it. I think there is evidence that at least some of the people involved suspected Mike was cheating at the very least, but I would not be too surprised at this point to learn that Mike had only one confederate. It is certainly technically possible that it could have been done with one confederate, and I don't see why you would tell anyone besides the people directly involved.

[@gjchawks17]

@@RaulGroom Hey I'm all for catching everyone that was a part of it and even just heard whispers and didn't say anything. I just know that the less people involved the better chance of not getting caught. So in my eyes the commentators aren't in on the cheating itself, just they chose to make the streams always about him. Which makes some of this more sickening. That only one of them ever brought it up and none of them (to my knowledge) have said anything yet.

[@luxon4]

nah i watched joey's 5 hour stream, and all the announcers reactions make it sound as if they're not in on it. you would never mouth off on a suspicion like that, it's a massive accusation that would blow up the community (as it is now). you'd be fired at best and sued for libel at worst. if you were ACTUALLY in on it, you would justify the plays as strategically smart and not sit there in incredulity saying things like "omg how does he get that read, etc".

[@Anthony-nv7gd]

Raul Groom Why do you keep using the word confederate? Wtf does any of this have to do with which side of the civil war these guys would have fought for? Ya dummy. 🤣🤣🤣 #NotAsSmartAsWeThinkWeAre

[@wecomeinpeace5082]

"Maybe he was just surprised his opponent had a hand" lmfao

[@Josh-ye2kw]

Solid investigative work Vanessa. You should get an emmy

[@johnmcdaniel8147]

Yaaaasssss gurl, you gettem Nessa!

[@TheMiddleManagement]

Two 'Vanessa's working together to take him down, outstanding

[@emdiar6588]

If he should get an Emmy, then Joey Ingram deserves a Nobel prize. Doug's... sorry, Vanessa's analyses are great, and I applaud him for doing this, but Joey is the real GOAT investigator.

[@Josh-ye2kw]

@@emdiar6588 nobody is arguing joeys part in the investigation. but way to get butthurt about a comment

[@emdiar6588]

@@Josh-ye2kw Butt hurt?? Where did you get that impression. I'm saying Doug is great, but Joey has gone beyond the call of duty.

[@JasonSigman]

I think the graphics are wrong! He has Pocket Aces! ...oh, wait...

[@paulgrubits5572]

Lol

[@johnlee813]

lmao

[@cmill7272]

I love how Doug is doing in depth analysis from the superusers perspective lmao

[@sxyy2559]

Doug this is serious Sherlock level deductions

[@BradDanyluk]

That hindsight 2020 shirt is fire

[@cobydijkstra210]

The pre-emptive movement of his arms is for me definitive proof. Well spot Douglas

[@Nash9r]

As if it was needed

[@rc5989]

Yes! Moar impostleably impostleable polker hands!

[@SkLLzDaTkLLs]

the best part of my day presently is polker-postle hands.

[@craigknauer6535]

We've reached peak Polk. These Postle videos are Doug's finest work.

[@DrinkElectrolytes]

LOL!! "BUT, if your range is just your hand because your opponent can see your cards, well then you have to call some of the times - and this is where you really have to mix up that strategy - if your opponent knows your exact holding, you're going to have to sometimes be willing to call and sometimes be willing to fold, because your range is really just that one hand... and you really have to keep your opponent (who is a GOD, and knows your hand) guessing, it's a really important part of your strategy."

[@harisjashari8968]

Damn Detective Polk nice eye on that reaction, props to you for this find.. people don't realize how hard it is to find this kind of spots!

[@gjchawks17]

Don't know if you caught that reaction, or someone from 2+2 in a post but that is a great catch. Well done to you or whomever and way to include it in the video.

[@Lotussta]

I haven't seen anyone mention it on 2+2, I think Doug caught it on his own actually. Pretty impressive

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

Time stamp?

[@gjchawks17]

@@biggawinnacrapsa3870 Let's say 11:00 though it started before that but that's right at the reaction.

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

@@gjchawks17 - ty - I've watched so much concerning this that I didn't watch all of this one when I asked for a time stamp - if I had, I would have easily been able to locate it, thanks.

[@SorcererUB]

the commentators called him Taylor, "Hart Banson" which is what the graphic reads, not Bart Hanson

[@robertpoirier4557]

someone is texting him from behind the scenes who has access to live card distribution. the bill squeeze is a hand signal and so is the back scratch. hes working with a team in my opinion.

[@driver8M3]

Fantastic analysis. Would have loved to see the JJ dude interviewed to explain the call.

[@xXOblivionXx1]

I think he's cheating..watch Bart Hanson as the commentators are talking at 6:40 his hod nod and laugh seem so in time as if hes reacting to what the commentator is saying..

[@driver8M3]

​@@xXOblivionXx1I think you are thinking the wrong guy was cheating!

[@karlypearl9701]

"If you're gonna start with a seven duce, ya gotta keep going.... I guess." 😂😂😂

[@brianbransfield]

He's just took David Sklansky's poker theory a little too literally. That says every time you play your hand the way you would if you could see your opponents' cards, you gain.

[@marca.6391]

Appears to be Taylor Carroll from O-Town/ AZ

[@elducky9574]

He called because he knows Postle is cheating. He knowns Postle knows his hand. So he knows that Postle knows that it's really hard to call a bet. So he knows the bet is designed to make him fold. So he known Postle has nothing. So he calls.

[@runabath]

I heard he watches rocky 3 before he plays poker

[@damedley75]

Wow, video gets really good at 10:45. Nailed it.

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

11:28 Hmm, it's almost as if he knew his opponents cards...

[@FCKOFFFCKOFF-g3u]

I do enjoy the actual strategy mixed in with the drama

[@danielracine1991]

In conjunction with the previous video (not excluding the bomb pot where Postle shoved over two flush draws), even the commentator's confidence that Postle will not give up on a AAQ board, to a pre-flop three-bet flat, is dubious.

[@danielracine1991]

Nice editing, Doug.

[@pokerguru2923]

I normally agree with just about all of your opinions. And I DO believe this guy is most likely in a contract with Stones as they could very reasonably be using him as a marketing ploy. This is done with slot channels; i.e. Brian Christopher. However, this example lacks one reasoning... In the event you bluff knowing its damn near impossible to beat ANYTHING (WTF could 72 actually beat) you could reasonably react to the fact your opponent calls rather than the cards in their hand. Think about it. How many times have you said I'm going to bluff the next one no matter the cards and played range against range and the board was in your favor, plus your betting didn't fuck up your perceivable range. In these cases, you react to the action and not the cards. Still love the videos bro...friendly opinion in a conversation. I do believe he's employed by Stones!

[@derek4177]

Easier said..........he knows it is a shitty hand, if his opponent takes such a long time to call, it is clearly not an Ace, a street or a boat...........so he knows it is most mainly a Qx or some other shit.......and obviously his bluff is beat. I think Doug and all the people here interpret way 2much into this situation.

[@falsofacu]

Who won?

[@haitaoy]

The one at Hart Hanson's left looks like Bart Hanson ... . :) .

[@gabrielgarciana3393]

He didn't even look at the cards lol, he goes from looking his side of the table to looking his opponent will raising his hands 😂

[@DanielBSuhr]

"What's up guys, Doug Polk here and welcome back for another episode of Postle Hands, and today...."

[@Jamesbass74]

That’s Taylor Caroll a live at the Bike reg and his alias says Hart Banson.

[@dbass6326]

Most likely it was a gesture of saying "yeah I had 72 what can I say..." which turned into the other thing when he saw the cards.

[@JonasPolsky]

Really Freaking Insane Deductions

[@Acesman12345]

Great catch, Doug. Mike is at the opposite side of the table. At best, all he sees is the hand is two face cards. That could just as easily have been KQ or QJ, which is still a tough call for all of your chips, but not nearly as tough of a call as JJ, and wouldn't warrant that kind of reaction.

[@nuknuk420]

There has never been a better time to be a poker fan. This is amazing.

[@notrab13]

That slow-mo arm raising was really well-spotted. Very damning evidence along with everything else.

[@aaronm5802]

Also should be noted, notice the body language difference between this hand and all the other multi way all in bluffs he made. In this one he is visibly nervous and has his hand over his mouth probably to mask his breathing while staying mostly still. All the other arguably crazier bluffs like the 67o and 52o etc. he's all jovial laughing completely relaxed....

[@SupehSLoth]

Taylor is such a good player, love the kid! :-)

[@TaylorWCarroll]

SupehSloth thanks!

[@joeregan63]

Taylor Carroll sick calldown in that hand man. Is that dbag really FOS there like 40%? Probably if he has 72o and is just trying to exploit his information edge, huh?

[@lucdh9301]

@@TaylorWCarroll Sick call, man... Been following you from your reddit post about the Bike. Keep crushing!

[@TaylorWCarroll]

@@lucdh9301 Thanks man!

[@karlseastrand7678]

Well done. Got him bang to rights. Hoped and expected Bart to provide his detailed input since he was there for some sessions. Guess we will see a Bart breakdown on it all very soon.

[@caliguy44]

Pretty sure the dude knew Postle had nothing. Making a hero call on the river knowing two overs on the flop. It's a great read to take that pot down.

[@matthewbryant2972]

I was with you till the end there, you even slow it down so it is even more clear, he sees the cards revealed and begins the hands up in the air motion; you can see what things are as the fly across a table... they don't magically become visible when the cards hit the table. What is insane to me, is, has a cell phone at the table... and the dealer or casino doesn't care... like; wtf... maybe poker needs the beeper but screw Poker man, are Casinos really letting players play with a cell phone on their lap? Damn... weird times

[@beanshady]

Keep them coming Doug! I feel bad for the players cheated by this "apostle", but I really enjoy your coverage on these "God" hands of his and hope he gets what's coming for him in the end.

[@adamporter1559]

Sick cameo from bigger Doug in the Torelli jacks clip😁

[@FocusedAndMotivated100]

Surprisingly he lost with 72.

[@yoloinvesting8749]

More of this S.O.B. Losing please 😂 😂 😂 it made my day amazing

[@playablejank7730]

Unfortunately there's not much of it...

[@bobbybax2360]

Am I the only one here who wouldn't mind losing a few hundred dollars to sit across from that girl at the table?

[@hugoperera1]

😬😬she nasty bro

[@Galahad54]

Yes, you are.

[@makemoneyatstandardandbina749]

One of Doug's best right here 😂

[@richhaff510]

Great video Doug. Your on point with the hands. It’s an instant before the cards are revealed. The only way you can do that is if you already know the cards. If you are going to cheat like he did you have to think about so much more then clearly he has. You have to think about how you react or your going to get caught. People and technology will catch up to you eventually. I’m glad he got caught. He and his conspirators need to do jail time pay back all winnings and a big fine. And last of all be banned from playing in poker games.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Hey Doug, I think both Postle and the other guy can see this flop as higher than their opponent's range. It's a transparent bluff, JJ is the next pair below Q, and a Turned 3, River T don't change anything. Postle throws his hands up because he was thinking that nobody could ever call a shove after tanking with AAQ out there. I don't think it's evidence that Postle was cheating on this hand, but ironically might be evidence that Postle isn't good enough to win without cheating.

[@MissDaisyTheRacoon]

Maybe he was surprised because he knew that abaucally any 2 cards can beat him.

[@gabrielgabe6949]

Holy shit Doug, I never noticed how Postle throws his hands up before opponent tables his JJ.... Nice catch man.

[@douglassauve4659]

If you watch postles body language through out the hand, he is more and more annoyed the guy is not folding. seems like the guy just had a really good read on postle and knew postle bluffed a lot. just my humble opinion.

[@CartoonMohammed]

At 1:50, why does the dealer smirk when the cheater call preflop with 72o? Great pick up on the timing of the hands up!

[@KanoPal1]

What are the odds of getting a Hart Banson and a Bart Hanson playing poker on the same table?

[@guitarislife5692]

Nice catch with the hand raising.

[@andrewcampbell9695]

Delts coming in Doug, keep up the hard work!!

[@vascosiva3380]

very good analysis. good Sir

[@robolasher]

Hart Banson..lmao 🤣👍

[@andrewb2548]

Doug - I want to clear this up. The "graphic" does NOT say the JJ player is "Bart Hanson." It says, "Hart Banson." Your brain just fixed the reversal. These players, I believe, can pick their handles, which is why that cheating spit bag is labelled "apostle." You have correctly pointed out that Bart Hanson is sitting next to JJ player. But the JJ player has, humorously, I suppose, picked a variation on his friend's name, and is using Hart Banson. It would be like me playing next to you and my handle is "Poug Dolk." But nobody would confuse me with Doug Polk, because I'm not handsome and I suck at poker.

[@BlowOutTheTown]

i should thank mike, because of him now doug makes poker videos everyday again

[@OriginalKarasu]

Keep them videos coming Doug xD

[@patrick_kyker]

I wonder how big the crowds are at stones?

[@billigmad3720]

Hart Banson and Bart Hanson :D

[@MaddMaxxMtb]

He calls because of his sweatshirt! SEND IT BABY

[@chairyannn]

Haven't seen Worm since that police station all those years ago...

[@DavidLane79]

The big thing I saw is that you are making big calls to your health and fitness. Keep it up! 🏋️

[@RealFactsForYou24]

Really good catch at the end Doug

[@dippy9119]

Could this be the ultimate poker level? Knowing that your opponent can see your cards, you make thin calls when your opponent moves all in on the river?

[@JohnSparkmanandBlackTopHerd]

I love how you slowed it down! Awesome analyzation! Wear that P.O.S out!

[@Azar1571]

Is there a Hart Banson and a Bart Hanson?

[@johnsims9907]

One thing I noticed is the players all seem to react to the commentators. Is it possible they hear them through the partition wall?

[@hardtarget1517]

******YOU CAN BEAT THE SCAMMER WITH THE POWER OF GROUP. ALL OTHER PLAYERS SAY: "WE WON'T PLAY IN THE SAME TABLE WITH THIS FRAUDSTER, SO IF YOU WANT SOME PLAYERS IN YOUR CASINO, YOU SHOULD TELL HIM TO LEAVE THE TABLE!" I AM SURE THAT CASINO DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION THAN ASK HIM TO LEAVE.******

[@davel3552]

great video..that ending is very telling i agree

[@Santino_Valentino]

Same thing hapened when "Mike Apostle" moved all in with 5-4off(pair of fives) and got called by Ace-high. He flipped his hand like he had the nuts instead of saying something like "oh shit, you got it"

[@MikeHoltzPoker]

That’s Taylor Carroll fam he’s a monster

[@gustavoc6812]

Great catch!

[@tjnunez2031]

Would be very interesting to hear from Bart Hanson on this subject.

[@Stockhandle123]

TJ Nunez I believe he has on Twitter

[@misomiso8228]

Also the 'House over House' hand where he only calls is crazy as even the commentators are shocked. EDIT: And the commentator for this hand, Kasey Mills has tweeted she raised the issue with management March 13th, and no longer works for the show. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfEd2OhrM-Ensk 19:19

[@Sipuliteemakkara]

I was a little skeptical Joey's remarks but this was a good 👍

[@michaelsmith4904]

" Do you think the stream adds an element to the decision here?" Player labelled as Hart Banson nods. Wait, who is listening to the live stream here?

[@BradDanyluk]

Side note, I don't play holdem really, generally a PLO player. But is jacks even a crazy call there? Seems like just as good a bluffcatcher as anything

[@derek4177]

Of course it is a crazy call here, when the 3bet Range just hits this Flop so hard and he 3 barrels............when he should actually slow down after his opponent called 2 barrels, because he has also many Aces in his range.

[@timsullivan4566]

Doug, wish you'd let the clip of your failed bluff vs Torelli run until you delivered your BEST unscripted line ever, framing it not as a bluff but as a bad beat - "What are the chances of 8-6 running into jacks?" LOL!

[@janideberg80]

A question from a novice: How does it come that it's ok to bring a pc/communication device/ machine with possible evil apps to a poker table/ money depot? Why don't just prohibit them during the entire game?

[@Locke19901]

Second wind inc Doug!

[@paulee911]

Ahahaha solid tongue in cheek NotBartHansen joke.

[@paulrush9166]

Lookin swole Doug! Keep it up!

[@ericguo8209]

Very talented guy. Expert at poker AND criminal investigator

[@benoitbeaulac415]

Great point!

[@JungleFeverForOShea]

Good shit fam

[@WizzRacing]

Thew slow motion says it all... As it does take a few seconds after you see the cards. To react to the call. Yet the Cheater is already giving away what he already knows before he can see the cards....

[@mistressliz3891]

Since he was bluffing with 7 high, he SHOULD know that anyone who makes the call has beaten him, without seeing their cards, to be fair. He didn't need to see the cards.

[@SaintKimbo]

Totally agree, if you are Postle and you DON"T know what the other guy has, you must assume that he has SOMETHING when he calls TWICE, you may not think he has the Aces or even a Queen, but when the 10 shows up on the River, the Opponents range becomes so great, that ONLY someone with knowledge of the Opponents cards would push all in, because anyone else, representing the nuts here, would make a large value bet against seasoned Players, and that is, maybe, why the Guy called the bluff. The only Player who would do what Postle did here, would be a complete Newbie who has zero knowledge of the game, or a Cheat.

[@allankay12]

These episodes are GREAT Doug! Expose this cheater!

[@Jerry-zz2eu]

Why is Hart Banson Sitting Next to Bart Hanson, lol?

[@redmancunian5603]

when mike is bluffing at the river but he knows he has the best hand,he is laughing and he looks very certain about the outcome.....However in this pot and some others like this,when he is bluffing with the weaker hand,he is quiet and not reacting at all.....just a small notice although its pretty clear he is cheating.....again nice video Polk.....

[@bananagoat2682]

There's a guy named Hart Banson and a guy named Bart Hanson. Cool.

[@spacetime705]

10:52 if you look close enough he actually flips the card revealing it already before throwing it on the table no?