How to beat Elphelt's Rekka

[@Jaysona]

You know watching this video made me realize that Johnny has a 6 frame jab, and having to play against Elphelt a lot yesterday made it an unforgettable lesson.

[@billymays313]

Meanwhile I play Bridget and all it did is make me realize that I needed to hit the kick button because anything else is too slow lol

[@thecactuarking]

as a johnny main getting bodied by every elphelt capable of pressuring into rekka i feel you my brother

[@yoohoo236]

No wonder

[@fartfacefromspace5678]

so wtf do we do now???

[@Jaysona]

@@fartfacefromspace5678 I learned eventually that you either pray for a trade or you can gamble a 2P since it’s a 5 frame

[@ZeUbermeinsch]

Should note that she can whiff cancel the rekkas, the cancel window is just a bit later than on hit.

[@Inabaedits]

The fact that elphelt is canonically in love with nago makes this even better. "Learn with Nago on how keep Elphelt TF OFF YOU"

[@e0z048]

I mean she pretty much loves everyone

[@MidnightFutaba]

Must be your first Guilty Gear Game

[@lt.kitkat]

Nago bitch slapping Elph out of a combo is something I need more of in my life.

[@flayncele]

i can only imagine hotashi making this video and posting it thinking "i don't wanna hear y'all bitches complaining about this rekka"

[@pieciolot4050]

Great video hotashi, FGC needs these bite-sized tips videos like these

[@erikkublack4523]

We used to have them, I dunno what happened.

[@hakumenx1]

​@erikkublack4523 the community doesn't listen, content creators realised they get more views via over sensationalising any little thing.

[@erikkublack4523]

@@hakumenx1 Sadness.

[@JupitersWindySkies]

@erikkublack4523 i too believe random youtube comments 🤤

[@sanicboi9187]

​@@JupitersWindySkiesI mean it's very likely, it's either what he said or they didn't care anymore (which I doubt).

[@TohoEggbirb]

We're making it out of Blood-Stained Sanctuary with the upgraded Polar Star with this one!

[@nekudarkenxRikuxXxda]

Major Respect for using Cave Story music

[@ckorp666]

the og ost too, the PROPER organya shit

[@crazykid1325]

Also one thing of note, well the low and high technically are the same speed the first hit of the overhead whiffs on crouchers so it’s actually frame 16 not 14. I think the elphelt player can delay the low to make it a true 50/50. Also I might be wrong about all of this, new character and all. Even if I’m right a 2 frame difference is not gonna be easy to fuzzy.

[@Hotashi]

didnt include this since its overwhelming

[@crazykid1325]

@@Hotashi fair

[@BIaziken2]

smart way to make people use a mechanic more, design a character that's weak to it.

[@АлексДобров-щ7з]

When the only reliable counter is one mechanic.. then it's a bad design

[@YoTerrako]

@@АлексДобров-щ7зnot really it can be good sometimes

[@snowys4168]

@@АлексДобров-щ7з This is why fighting games are badly designed in general. Lots of stuff you have to block, it's awful.

[@keithlee1007]

​@@АлексДобров-щ7зdawg u just watched a video of other counters

[@dragonic22]

@@snowys4168 Oh no, you cant mindlessly mash on defence. How terrible...

[@Maxler5795]

all of this deep and profund talk on the depth of how to counter it. and me in the corner just going VULCANINC VIPAH!

[@testhekid]

hotashi is the type of person to prepare people against his own character so he can hit back with double

[@Ashragi]

On most (all?) of the cast, first hit of the high will whiff meaning you can potentially consistently fuzzy block, it’s a 2 frame window for the switch though. Man this rekka is something else. I’m a pretty high level player and id like to think I’m good at adapting to situations, but it took 45 minutes of a random Elphelt looping the resets on me before I felt consistently able to defend.

[@hOFalt]

As someone who's interested in maining her it'd be nice to have a video about how she matches up in neutral against characters with different ranges. Basically her rough game plan against the different character archetypes

[@GrEEnF1Re1]

Bro you only spam that chian shit and win, there is no "How she matches with others" its the same for everyone

[@devinnix9071]

​@GrEEnF1Re1 this person has been losing to elphelts lately

[@Etikal]

Her gameplan is to mash buttons without thinking like any character in strive

[@jayblack5942]

​@@devinnix9071 He's not entirely wrong tho.😂 She's a rushdown character. Her "gameplan" is to rush people down. That's always her gameplan. If she isn't doing that, she's probably losing.

[@Mightfox]

@@Etikal lol you remind me of myself ignorantly thinking other fgs were "mashing without thinking" when i was new to fgs. embarrassing, but youll learn eventually. strive neutral has thinking just like anything else does

[@nunyabiznes7446]

literally just came here from getting my ass beat three times in a row as Nago, how did this guy get a recording of my match to start the video game with?

[@10001vader]

Wasn't expecting Cave Story music on a Strive video, but I"m not complaining

[@CosmicRPG]

Initial view of Elphelt after day one, Hotashi

[@megoodatgame8535]

Thanks for making this. This should be useful for both fighting Elphelt and playing her since I know the counter play and might be able to try countering the counter play

[@throwaway1066]

Worth noting that rekka 1 is always backdashable. Harder to pull of with characters that have short backdashes (may, millia) but they get the most reward since they can mash to beat all followups after backdashing. Standard backdash characters can throw P or K followups, but need to mash on S.

[@Arkeyviste]

If you crouch block 214S, the first overhead leaves a gap for DP... I wasn't used to taking too much notice of the crouching in gap blockstings, she is less braindead than expected

[@FB1_Destro]

great choice of music, love hearing cave story every now and then

[@magicalgirl1296]

Thanks for the tips Hotashi. Can we look forward to a full Elphelt guide once we know her better?

[@eeveelilith]

Local Man Beats Unbeatable Block String By Pressing The Punch Button (Part 20)

[@tsunamiwave170]

This is rally helpful as a pot player as a lot of my moves are not very fast. So knowing when i can interrupt moves is nice.

[@thechaddestman2603]

Haven't looked at strive for some time, but I actually came back just because of her. I forgot how detailed your videos are! Also, good music choice with Running Hell

[@user-pn7wq9cl1g]

As a fledgling Asuka player, I sometimes felt like my brain can't breathe into her. The knockdown war is brutal; if Asuka wins he gets to play again the minute his pressure wanes, if Elphelt wins on the other hand... *oh god I'm in the blender and this time she put on the lid* This video helped me tremendously, especially with her Oki setup which usually lets her get into her second pass of the Rekka very safely.

[@akdrzllol1698]

Thanks🤝🏾 I was learning how to play her but didn’t really figure out many ways to deal with her lmao

[@leeboleebo]

At 0:39, I think the gaps in c.S > 214S and 2H > 214S are 4 frames, so they lose to Sol 5K and trade with Sol 5P. 5H > 214S and 6H > 214S both counterhit Sol 5k though

[@jettmanas]

Good info. Thanks. I heard P can help, though I can't always react after it's started. And use whatever I have to get out. FD, YRC, burst, & will remember B.Shield.

[@slycwby2478]

As an Anji player, I looked at chain lollipop once and learned how to beat the move, it’s such a simple idea And it made me realize that if Anji’s mix was slightly better he’d beat half the game’s population And I’m gonna go think about that now and maybe cry

[@aatreus0192]

It's okay we will eat good this patch

[@kaleidoslug7777]

The boy will never not be a low tier cause if he weren't, everyone would hate our guts lmao. Like imagine if a character with a move as bullshot as Fish were top 5, we would be executed on sight

[@thedanish5523]

The nagiha buff is extremely good. Learn your meterless combos after a nagiha hit and you'll be in a really good place

[@slycwby2478]

@@kaleidoslug7777 You are right, that fish makes me pretty damn happy every time I use My life peaks every time I hit someone with fish, guard break or knockdown

[@slycwby2478]

@@thedanish5523 ill have to see, sadly pretty busy yesterday and today with work stuff lol Tomorrow though I’ll check it out

[@BudewFan_]

This guide is great and all (like genuinely so helpful) but for any sol players watching you ain’t gotta learn all this shit just hit 5k when you see the flip (hold it after 2h tho then 5k the next flip) remember, never block always hit buttons

[@pbyn153]

Hotashi, it is not even one week yet you are now releasing tips to destroy your main already? 😅 This is madness!

[@brupts7297]

The Noel Vermillion special

[@Boom_OH]

Visually breaking it down really helps. Thank you

[@OccuredJakub12]

As an Axl main who bought the game on the patch day 1 and had to deal with an army of Elphelts... Your best bet is just NOT TO LET ELPH GET IN. I found great use with the new tornado move for cancelling out hee fireballs quickly and when I have the chance to set up the charged version, I can approach more comfortably, use Rensen, 2H or any other moves and if she gets caught blocking in it I can do left-right mixups or get more distance and reset the situation. Can't let her just run in of course, but for Rekkas I just use FD, RS, even Burst or I can save the meter use his reversal super since she can't block when doing them. Fighting Elph really helped me get the fundamentals of Axl's zoning game down.

[@Boom_OH]

Bro right? I started yesterday also with axl. Also played some potemkin. I'm gonna have to start using that tornado move. I haven't been using it.

[@velvetdraws3452]

also dont forget whisteling wind (214K), amazing if an enemy loves airdashing in

[@kllcmd8980]

thank you for this. having way too many elphelts as opponents who just spam miss charlotte or chain lollipop when they get low on health, it's infuriating

[@ryanlally8116]

As an Elphelt main running into a lot of other Elphelts, this is going to make fighting them way more enjoyable! Thanks Hotashi!

[@Lonelyskydiver6]

You're a legend for the cave story music

[@FeriasTerras]

Appreciating the Cave Story jams. ♥

[@skiks3562]

Thanks for making this. I was wondering how the hell you are supposed to get out of that pressure, and this does help a lot. Also, it just dawned on me how much scarier she would have been if they hadn't removed counter-hit-slow on rekkas.

[@solarsloan]

Did anyone else catch “Lollipop Chainsaw” or are we just calling it that now?

[@regal677]

Fellow cave story appreciator

[@nurglesfavorite1094]

I like the fact that rekka means truck in Finnish

[@sadpug9398]

So in short - starting with H is frametrap, other buttons - interruptable, rekka starter is throwable, full rekka is punishable, one mix into H is safe, loop is interraptable. Seems mad strong.

[@cerdi_99]

Rekka starter/reset (it's the same move afaik) is airborne so you can't really grab it except on the very first frames

[@jonathonlasagna9168]

I must defeat the white woman tricknology

[@ZombHarris]

as an elphelt main thank you for the guide on how to get better at the character

[@Glandulf19]

I was sure, of all the best GG creators out there, you would be the one to put this out. Thx for the tips ❤

[@joe476]

Great video! Got straight to the point and didn’t add anything unnecessary.

[@Scopida]

You can actually 6P her 2H into rekka

[@shl6367]

My man playing the long game making sure elphelt isn’t up played

[@safariisavagegaming]

im glad im not the only person who thought lollipop chainsaw when they did her breakdown

[@MakaveliMarsMusic]

Lol got on Strive for the first time in a while and dealt with this and was so discouraged lol thank you 😂😂

[@ameirgrant6116]

Haven’t played in a year+ and this move was cooking me

[@Eggb0i]

I like every character’s design they all are unique but with elphelt she just reminds me of an anime girl (which she is) but it just looks kinda lame comepqred to someone like Potemkin or i-no

[@RenatoFontes]

Love the music selection, Cave Story FTW

[@feryparera6748]

Milia can just mirazh the starter/resetter move, I have been abusing this

[@freshboy3968]

There are people still playing Millia? That's pretty cool.

[@jpvlogph5935]

Nice guide! Didn't know she was a knowledge check character. Thank you!. And damn, I completely forgot deflect shield! Thank you for joggling my brain a little LMAO.

[@caseysafatkid]

Every character is a knowledge check character

[@doomkid360]

I really appreciate this format, hell ya thank you sir

[@ammi5311]

Pretty sure she can S you into corner , as it resets on roll pickup hits . Also Axel get to pretty much sit

[@steffanhymer1285]

All of these really tight frame gaps just scream Baiken Parry to me.

[@AAlnaggar002]

Instructions unclear, stuck playing Cave Story

[@Psychedel1x]

Welp, cS into Rekka trades with 5f 5p and loses to 6p, 2h into rekka also loses, only viable option for her is 5h into rekka and 6h into rekka, thats safe against 5f buttons. Correction - 5p depends on hitboxes for different characters but 6p should do the trick

[@nonmagicalwitch]

I am not getting robbed by chain lollipop, I am robbing with chain lollipop.

[@fulltimeweeb]

Thanks for the video Hotashi!! Really helpful

[@xxNightxTrainxx]

My video froze at 0:20, but the music kept playing, so for a second, i thought this was a joke video about there not being counterplay

[@Spazz4170]

is there really counter play on strive online when you have to be within 3 frames?

[@Storse]

As a baiken player none of that shit is gapless so i just parry on reaction till they start leaving gaps to bait. Then i grab em and they die.

[@exowodia68]

Great video ! Would be amazing to have a guide about her projectile setups.

[@austindennison5373]

Note that she can choose to not hit any rekka buttons, and instead grab you. Faultless defending should prevent that from happening,though.

[@VitorSilva-ee7vb]

It mostly overlaps with Reset as it also can be defended with 5p and punishes passive blocking.

[@tonyflamingo3444]

I fucking hate fighting Elpheht as a Faust main so this is probably better then my strat of just spacing her out.

[@14daycooldown]

"just 5p it bro" rams and baikens 5p literally dont connect due to not reaching lmao

[@Aidan174]

Cave story music goes hard

[@hutiadude6781]

We all know this video is for elphelt mirror matches because we’re just mashing buttons

[@zionjackson7617]

Hayashi sorry if I'm pronouncing your name wrong G but dude I can't tell you how many times I've lost to this character not knowing that I can literally jab her out of her Rekha just blows my mind I'm sitting here getting mad because I play ABBA and sometimes I play Soul and like it felt like it was almost impossible to deal with this move and now it just looks so easy to deal with now that I understand how it works

[@jamesfisher3885]

I literally just bought GG Strive bc it was on sale and i'm only facing Elphelts and being destroyed by spamming this so this guide is very much helpful

[@_dh0ull_]

Holy shit, it's been some time since I've heard anything from Cave Story

[@justv7536]

I have a much better way of countering Elphelt Rekka. Dodge her in tower so you don't have to deal with that shit

[@Aeirion]

So essentially, anytime she tries to keep the pressure going, hold it until she tries to actually mix you. Once she tries to mix you, punish it.

[@ariestheram3610]

Yes but reversed

[@heyitsmort7744]

Love the Cave Story music :)

[@pian-0g445]

Ky main here, I’m finding neutral and beyond difficult against her. Her gunshot move can’t be 6p from what I’ve tried from a the muzzle flash, and her gun whip has long range and good frame for when you’re trying rush down on her. But then if you try to take your time, she has projectiles that come out quicker than Ky. And her air version takes up so much space that when I try to attack her while she’s doing it, I’m unable to dash in and hit her, and even when close, is difficult to punish her because of the projectile properties. He low K and D are also quite long and can’t be 6p which makes sense, however her 6d is very difficult for me to punish because my low moves don’t reach and those that do, aren’t quick enough. I’m not great so this may be an absolutely wrong take, but to try and punish her or force her into Ky’s neutral requires too much commitment in which those can get punished. Any tips would be nice to hear

[@themonotonecommunist2458]

Thank you for the banger guide Hotashi! Ngl I was struggling.

[@blummie1215]

that Lollipop chainsaw remake is lookin crazy

[@nkirmath8621]

This is useful as someone looking to learn elphelt and as someone scared of blocking *that*. Btw would you be willing to show off setups for the command grab?

[@ZevTheWolfe]

Wait am I dumb and missed it- how do you counter if she just spams the startup S for it? Isn't it -2 on block which isn't enough for punish, and you have to wait for a rekka followup, or did I misread?

[@HasvenWorld]

Devil: "My child will watch this guide!" Jesus: *Baiken qcf+p*

[@Mechenai]

Thanks for the tips, if there is anything i could be doing to make my chances better when beating 214H as okizeme with its mix-ups, that'd be a great help too.

[@randymandy1351]

hotashí have you considered making tutorials on notepad with dubstep in the background

[@Nukesnipe]

Today, Nagoriyuki and Elphelt show us what domestic abuse looks like

[@tylercafe1260]

Ngl I laughed when I saw the subconscious typo of "Lolipop Chainsaw" lmao

[@mirror2922]

Time for breaking down grenade oki because wow is this character absurdly difficult for the average joe to block against vs the effort it takes to press the buttons. Ive used elphelt its pretty rough for some people

[@cameronrramos]

I tried her in training and was like "this is it? this is the effort required to do this shit?". will be interesting to see how the top level develops around her, atm it’s looking pretty rough for the folk below floor 10.

[@mirror2922]

@@cameronrramos imo I could be wrong so im open to other interpretations to better inform my stance on her. Elphelt feels like a rushdown yes, but also pretty effective mid to long range? Most of her far pokes get beaten by 6p but then you kind of loop back into the elphelt doing options that are better against 6p. 2k 2d being those options. When spacing is perfect for the birdal rush you can really bully people with smart use of her ranged pokes and burst of movement. Personally I think her rekka is good when counterplay and stronger forms of punishment are mastered I think her gameplan is gonna be focused on neutral and her offense is gonna lean more into grenade shenanigans or properly faking out entering rekka attempts. The good thing about her rekka is that you want to press a button to interrupt it as the defender but if elphelt is familiar with this choice she can just wait for the mash to end,, do something unmashable as long as she enters the rekka from the right normal. She also has the option to spend meter. Personally though I dont like spending meter on her rekka I think the scaling is really noticeable on characters with higher defense modifiers than her, but thats why I consider rc to stabilize the knockdown situation oki and get a better counterhit option for a stronger combo. One could also crank risc bar for the same effect I don't really like her buttons up close mid range is good, the sweet spot from mid-long awkwardly allows a lot of pressure and mental stack for when she charges in randomly especially with meter.. I think the character is good clear weaknesses clear strengths not overly complex but not someone you can just free style defense on

[@ToffeeBun]

Cave Story music :] Thank you for video

[@NephiLynn]

ironically im now better at her rekka cause knowing how people can counter it means i also know how to condition them not to better

[@ИванРоманов-н2ф]

I think, save starter should be removed, it to strong to have free powerful double mix-up with reset option, but if her first move in chain will be always unsave, this might be balanced.

[@Stryfe52]

Yeah, they’ve gotta do something. I don’t think it’s fair at all that I can know her rekka is coming yet because completely unable to do ANYTHING about it because she has safe block strings into it. Like I-No’s counter play is stopping her dashes and prevent her from getting close, Jack-O is stop her minions, Millia is not getting knocked down; Elphelt? Don’t block her rekka. Alright, then make it Mashable before or after like May dolphin

[@Stryfe52]

Even Chipp needs resources for his Rekka to be really scary. Elphelt can just throw it out and suddenly get mix better and safer than Millia

[@imtiaze642]

There is no one way to counter her rekka, its a rps situation, the best way is to DP if you have one, or super if you are Ramlthal or Baiken.

[@alexsvedegard]

Any reversal ult, really

[@RandomPerson28337]

Good ole dp nothing beats that.

[@SakuyaFM4]

I had someone who would NOT block as I looped 214S>S until the wallbreak. I'm sitting here like.. PLEASE PRESS 6P

[@JinhC]

ty for the guide! love the cave story music btw

[@TyphaTailedCatsTypha]

CAVESTORY MUSIC!!! Makes sense playing the gun girl!!

[@KenjiAsakura09]

Based Hotashi

[@anoxia5907]

People who making video to show how to counter his main is so damn respectable.🗿

[@xcreenplay7264]

As a axl main my MU against Elp is even but this those rekkkas mix up are brutal 😂

[@marioisawsom]

Great music choice