How to bend skirting around a 90 degree bend using a kerf cut

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How to bend skirting around a 90 degree bend using a kerf cut
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How to bend skirting around a 90 degree bend using a kerf cut
Power Tools Used
Evolution RAGE3-S 210mm Sliding Compound Mitre Saw 240V
如何使用切口切割在90度弯曲处弯曲踢脚线
कैसेरफ काट का उपयोग करके 90 डिग्री मोड़ के आसपास झुकना
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[@AynsleyPaterson]

Hey fella, great job and god only knows why some of the comments seem overly critical. There are a few ways to carry that type of job off and I totally appreciate your approach. My dad is in his 60 ' and was a saw doctor then a joiner/builder all his days and that's the kind of challenge that I would watch him tackle and the precision and attention to detail he put in blew me away. Allthough he is now retired, he still project manages me whenever I'm doing work to my home and the tricks he knows on how to manipulate wood has been great to learn. There's not a straight wall in my old house to take any references from but everything is bang plumb on the eye and im proud to say it was my old man that done it and I'd be happy to have you in on any work I needed. Peace out.

[@mirkomueller3412]

Didn't turn out that great but looks like this is the only way to do the job. Thanks for sharing how you do solve the Problem and also for all the effords that go with producing a Video like this. Some People don't realize how much additional work you have to put in until you can upload the finished video. And you did a very good job on that too. (Have seen so much crap already) So thumbs up !

[@texxs01]

do a you tube search. Most contractors just bend the piece of wood without cutting.

[@GeekStreet]

No problem glad you enjoyed.

[@vincsenzokadar8660]

Geek Street z

[@Texmaniac]

i like it. great tip for the working man who does he own home repairs. the negative comments on here are from lazy bums....let them post something to help others. thanks mate and keep sharing!

[@johndeegan606]

The negative comments are probably from craftsmen who are horrified by this disgraceful job

[@hendrax5889]

this is NOT a how to. this is a DIY obsessed man who cant stop.

[@webbit1518]

I would have a firm talking too with anyone on my crew installing that on my customers wall.Not because it looks bad but because you just spent an hour installing a make shift bullnose trim piece instead of purchasing several before you started working.Fast,efficient,quality work gets referrals and returns.

[@1169218923]

Thanks alot trying this next week. Always good to have people show you knew things

[@malunicolette9447]

Great!! Simple and well done, thanks!!

[@Windragon76]

Thank you for the video.

[@martinhadfield964]

Great video, I've since tried this and had good results, Thank for the upload

[@roverman985]

I would say something really bad about your work but everyone else beat me to it.

[@jackysew262]

It is a great idea. Improvement could be by using the Car's filler, instead of using the waterbased filler on wood.

[@thestranger79x]

doesn't look that bad, don't listen to the haters

[@zedman442]

Not too bad turn out really. Not sure why so many negative comments!

[@GeekStreet]

yep I know....but funny how upset some people are getting over a bit of skirting board. I was going to disable comments but am finding the negative reponses quite amusing, just shows some people have too much time on their hands.

[@onehans66]

+Geek Street it looks good to me. maybe water based filler is not best choice but hey you don't pour a backet of water on to mdf ;) well done!

[@dannersmyers]

+Geek Street I would agree people are way too negative over this… But I think the main reason is because it's a (how-to video) which Intel's you're showing people how to do it properly. It's not bad work, but I wouldn't let it pass if I was paying you for it. The top profile isn't even, and the flat face on the bottom is choppy you can see where the kerf cuts are.

[@GK-hf5ze]

great job! sure there really are pros who can do the 3 piece aka the right way.lol but most of these people obviously are not in the field nor come across and handle thousands of these. I deal with these Dailey, and rarly do I see one done really nice. they cover mistakes with caulk n paint and beak a lot. Also i feel these way is easier for a less skilled carpenter. it's a little choppy but I would actually take this over most I see. I would maybe do it in shorter segments tho if possible. Either way, thank 2. awesome idea appreciate your time and sharing. don't listen to the negative people, they will always hate. it's not for them anyway. again thanks from all those who do appreciate you teaching a different technique

[@mongjedi244]

The face of the trim doesn't look very round. Looks like crap.

[@miac4642]

J W in

[@johnnelson8956]

what about the obvious vertical creases showing through the bottom portion of the molding. how did you fix that. or did you.

[@WGPblackmagicSPECIAL]

This is the type of shit that keeps us do it righters in business. We come in, laugh and sigh at this shit work, tear it out and do it right.

[@FluffyBaccaXXGaming]

How would you have done it?

[@johnmontague69]

Who the fk said to put mdf into water to bend it? Never put mdf near water. Like the determination this guy has and its clear to see he isn't a Carpenter Joiner. Be careful with that saw, if you get kickback as the saw isn't fixed to a bench it will jump and you'll get a sore one. Anyway, good luck on the DIY, you do it your way and others do it their way.

[@unlimitedwealth1]

great idea thx

[@pcno2832]

People are complaining about how you filled and sanded the cuts, but that area looks fine to my eyes, except, I would have gone over the border between the wall and the board where it curves around the corner, maybe with a fine saw blade, to get it back to the 90 degree angle you can see on the straight areas. Also, where the bent section meets the other sections, I'd be inclined to do something (biscuits, dowels, finger-joint or just opposite 45 degree cuts) to align them better. Would a solvent-based filler have been better for the long run? Maybe, only time will tell, but I don't see any signs that the MDF is warping or falling apart. But I doubt cutting it up into little triangular pieces and gluing them would have produced better results than this without even more sanding, or very exacting (ie. expensive) work, the bends in the flat area of the board wold have been much more pronounced that way than they are here.

[@pcno2832]

+No Name One other thing that might have cut the amount of filling and sanding needed would have been a blade with triangular or arrow-shaped (rather than rectangular teeth), though I don't know if they make one for a chop saw.

[@SometimeWoodworker]

A couple of points, some have been covered. The word should be kerf as kef means "a state of drowsy contentment, especially from the use of a narcotic." As has been mentioned a smooth push to the back is the better way to use the saw and would have left a smoother finish. Also if you added a sacrificial peace to the fence you could have gone all the way through in one pass and not had to turn the skirting round The chop move chop leaves some parts with more material and makes the unevenness more pronounced

[@shotsince6653]

criticism of the word Kef. How do you spell piece then bro? people in glass houses etc..

[@cdp21088]

+shot since 66 He didn't just spell it wrong, he says it wrong a couple times. Obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@petewebb8052]

Calm down guys, piece out!

[@1spiders1]

I read every comment on here. I found them really interesting, people's ideas and 2 pence worth . Some are correct in their criticism. It did look quite poor and that chop saw needs dismantling

[@dannersmyers]

Why does the chopsaw need to be dismantled?

[@mintymini88]

Like the idea. Like the video. Disliked for four adverts in such a short video. Who decides the ad frequency? The poster or KZbin?

[@bhen2753]

Looks good!

[@AaronMcBarron]

You only need to mark the outer boundaries, the rest is a waste of time. The tighter you need to bend, the closer together you make the relief cuts, not wider cuts. then you wont end up with the ugly creases on the front of the facing. Also, that radial miter saw you are using, Extend it towards yourself, lower down then slide to the back in one even cut instead of chopping into the piece over and over. Its easier on you and the equipment, saving loads of time and giving a nice even clean relief

[@bloodlust1000]

Tends to kick more the war he is doing it as well.

[@contemplate-Matt.G]

Use wiggle board for the bottom flat portion or layers of 1/4 luan. Then cut off three pieces of the actual top detail piece. Rip each one so you can layer them to recreate the profile. Glue and pin nail everything

[@TheFloorBoys]

Damn fine job there Bud. Damn fine.

[@williammartin9450]

Cool, this is why I love KZbin! As you say, easier and more consistent cuts on a table saw. Thanks, great video. You're pretty handy with that saw btw;)

[@TheLondonForever00]

Really good job - it was good watching this being created. Thanks for sharing!

[@nicksainsbury7152]

This is a great technique if you want a lifetime of filling the cracks that keep appearing and retouching paint

[@GeekStreet]

Interesting you say that but 2 years on its still the same no cracks at all.

[@GeekStreet]

Interesting you say that but 2 years on its still the same no cracks at all.

[@shawnp8429]

bullshit,I've done this year's ago haven't touched it since

[@Elderos5]

nick sainsbury My house is over 100 years old and this is same way they shaped the inside curve on the stairs well trim. It never cracked untill I took it apart to do repairs. The only difference is they used hand tools to build my house.

[@richiedelf]

Not with MDF. If it was made of actual timber it may move and crack.

[@roadstar92220]

Looks terrible. Real amateur work with points on the lower base and no clean edge on the top.....

[@MikeCarter]

Thanks for the demonstration. Tempted to do this and have a curved eclisse pocket door for my walk in wardrobe now.

[@gwalker007]

I did this with MDF, soaked the bend area in water and bent it. This worked around the bottom step of the stairs and also around the bay window. A lot easier than this.

[@petewebb8052]

You soaked an MDF skirting in water? Good job!! ✋🏻

[@woodwork1233]

you are fired!!!

[@udoje]

1. why you didnt tape the wall to prevent it from the filler an have all the work to clean it? 2. why you didnt make a debth stop for your saw to make precise deep cuts and have no corners and break outs after bending? Idea ok. work not

[@ripped5050]

That's a lot of work for a subpar outcome. You guys don't have rubber products? Another sure fire method it to split the angles... 1/2 of 45 degrees is 22.5 half that.is 11.1/4. Then keep halving the angle untill you get approximately 3 degrees. At that point you start putting the pieces together and end up with a perfect radius in a lot less time and effort. I appreciate the old school method and the time you took to make the video and I mean no disrespect, but there are two types of folks watching this video.... The pro, which knows not to waste time on this method,and the DYI homeowner that has little idea what's going on, and will spend a half a day installing and another half day prepping... And still not get rid of the square look on the bottom of the base..you basically took a 5 minute project and turned it into a full day nightmare. Just order a piece of rubber baseboard that will match your existing base. A box with a 12 foot roll cost about 20 dollars. Promise you won't regret..... Sorry for the run-on paragraph, keyboard is having issues.

[@GeekStreet]

+Mike Carter Thanks for taking the time to post your comment, I've not heard of rubber baseboard but that would definately have made life easier.

[@hendrax5889]

In the UK we don't tend to use synthetic products as all our buildings are very old so we match into the existing. A lot of our buildings are protected by a governing body called "heritage". Where we can not alter its original state/look. I know what you're saying though, in the sates/North America you use a lot of composite and "fake" products for speed and longevity. Unfortunately, that's not possible here as we add/restore to things built 100's of years before america was even a country.

[@crankedup86]

Lee Woolley mdf is adequate for restoration work? proper job is to turn the corner in solid wood on a lathe if not using a composite bendable product.

[@Mrmghz1]

@@crankedup86 how on earth do you turn a corner on a lathe?

[@crankedup86]

@@Mrmghz1 laminate up a block, mark your inside and outside radii, turn outside to profile, drill out center to desired radius, cut ring into 4-90° corners. Probably a vid on here somewhere to show you the process. This is a large radius so bandsaw might be preferred instead of drill press.

[@ktrain6724]

looks good! what kinda filler you use?

[@GeekStreet]

+Kir Partain thanks I used POLYCELL TRADE POLYFILLA EASY SAND INTERIOR FILLER

[@jewsonduh]

Omg that was Hilarious. Isn't that what flex mold was designed for ? I've never in my life seen a rounded corner in a house trimmed using this technique.

[@markdewall9897]

In addition to the shoddy woodworking techniques, that's the glossiest "eggshell" finish I've ever seen. Looks more like semigloss.

[@shawnp8429]

also u can use pvc trim

[@RODDDDify]

Hum....funny, some thinks it looks great, some thinks t looks real bad. What matters is....as long as you are happy with it ...that's what counts.My self, before trying to steam MDF I would build up about a gallon of Bondo around a corner that big , then sand it into shape. I was told by a pro body man that if you don't use hardener the bondo wont crack.

[@petewebb8052]

It won't crack, or set!

[@dannersmyers]

He obviously wasn't a pro body man lmfao

[@joem1413]

Not to impressed. What did I expect from a guy who works around power equipment with his shoes untied and uses the wrong size putty knife.

[@sergioa.venegas8586]

Zip It and didn't even worried about putting a piece of tape on the wall so didn't get it all messed up wiht filler

[@andrewacton5885]

a speed square and thin kerf 6 1/2" battery saw set to depth would be so much better for the kerf lines, and where are your scarf joints? press the wood fill into the kerfs before you wrap it around the corner

[@shutinyanks]

Very clever almost wish I had curved walls

[@Aceanimetv]

Sand the straight vertical lines. In front to round the skirting

[@shanedfoalima]

good job.

[@UserName7474]

How do you find people willing to pay for that ugly thing? I think you need at least twice that amount of cuts to get an acceptable look.

[@darrenmcintosh326]

I bought rubber moulding for crown trim in circilar ceiling

[@stelong6365]

Tip for making KZbin 'how-to' vids - edit the sound when using power tools!

[@GeekStreet]

+master shakes no you need the sound .... it adds to the whole experience.

[@jesphx1]

Your fired!

[@spencercolgan]

What "filler" did you use to fill in those gaps of those gaps that were made by the chef cut?

[@GeekStreet]

I used Trade Polycell Polyfilla Interior Filler. It does not shrink or crack.

[@shawnp8429]

use wood filler or spackle

[@warrenbuitendag5286]

nice video, but your description is missing an "R", it is actually a "Kerf Cut". Kerf referring to the width of the teeth on the blade. Also if you use a thinner blade, smaller "kerf", it will allow you to make more cuts in closer proximity and providing you don't make those cuts too deep, like you did here, you will get a smoother more rounded bend. And with a thinner blade and more cuts, and cut the right way, the slots will actually close up when you bend the stock eliminating the need for excess filler. If done properly no filler will be needed at all. And the entire board should be stuck down, especially the fingers at the top. It is also mentioned somewhere below, but it is always good practice to miter the ends of the board where it will be joined to another. I'm not judging what you are doing here, but this is more for other people watching that this technique can be done to greater effect.

[@MrNeild123]

Warren Buitendag it says Kerf cut though 😜

[@sycbeck652]

+Neil Davie yes but he calls it a "kef" cut at the start of the video 😅

[@keithbyrne4872]

Warren Buitendag yous are fucking pathetic pulling people up on words and about not needing any filler wheres your video oh yeah nowhere you idiots

[@warrenbuitendag5286]

yeah the uploader must have changed it :)

[@warrenbuitendag5286]

I'm an experienced carpenter/luthier myself, nice to meet you. Not everyone watching youtube videos looking to learn a thing or two wants to become a carpenter, but that doesn't mean they should be misinformed. And yes, you can actually learn a thing or two from the right videos on youtube. Just remember you called me "fucking pathetic" first. And i didn't slate anyone for anything by simply giving some additional information. From one asshole to another :) And one more thing, out of all the other comments here explicitly calling his work "shit" and "wank" and "shoddy", you come to me where i politely critique what is done and offer up friendly advise on how to improve and call me fucking pathetic?! nice one.

[@TheLosman38]

Guys, c'mon now.... Your first hint shoulda been -using an 'Evolution' saw. -On the ground. -with untied shoes, like a 4 yr. old. My god.

[@danielfairless6124]

Walls not rubbed down great and I don’t like the lines on the lower half of the skirting. But still interesting to watch

[@balfemotor6067]

I hope you're not charging someone for this, use real timber, cut notches in the back like you did, but don't cut through to the finished side, then soak and bend the skirting board to the right angle and SCREW it to the wall, also it should be mitred to the other pieces.

[@mfgman2011]

I would recommend a thinner blade and more cuts. This technique is great. The execution is a little wanting.

[@gamerbot5661]

Cut 22.5 around curved walls add that third piece it looks way Better and is faster

[@kevinhalpin7013]

hi there, really good work. im just wondering whether you can do the same, but curved the other way? I.E on my curved bay window? so, not only will it bend the other way, my piece of MDF will be much much larger than yours. Regards

[@GeekStreet]

Kevin Halpin Hi, yes I'm pretty you should be able to bend the other way round. Try not to cut too deep initially.

[@lewiscunliffe2955]

It's better to do 5mm gaps as you can see the finish of the bottom of that skirting is still quite square and your spend more time filling and sanding it to shape it, but still good effort.

[@joshuaclarry1740]

Gaps didn't want to have bigger slots they wanted to be more frequent hence the squareing and that's why's in cracked on the kerf cuts

[@Madnikodemus2]

My boss would tell me to rip it out & redo it the right way

[@09jgdoss]

looks good if you don't mind seeing the blocks at the bottom that show what you did

[@nonenone8793]

Unfortunately, you have to use putty with a "workable time" of A WEEK! LMAO.

[@jimmy2ice]

Does it only work with MDF or would it work with tree wood

[@TheSeancassady]

The first time someone accidentally kicks that corner the whole thing is going to crumble. Should have shot some filler into the crevaces in the back to help add strength

[@GeekStreet]

+Annony Mouse actually putting grip fill in the inside gaps and using that to stick it made it rock solid.

[@TheSeancassady]

But you only did that on the outside, you have gaps on the inside of the turn.

[@GeekStreet]

+Annony Mouse no actual took it back off and put grip fill in the gaps I think I put a comment in the video saying that.

[@TheSeancassady]

Oh gotcha!

[@GeekStreet]

+Annony Mouse no actual took it back off and put grip fill in the gaps I think I put a comment in the video saying that.

[@kjamison5951]

Pretty sure you meant "kerf cut". Kerf from Old English 'cyrf' meaning 'a cut'. I once mounted baseboard (uk skirting board) to a curve but I did it in two mitred cuts and it looked awesome. You need a thinner blade. It did look a bit ugly, even after filling.

[@kevinfox6127]

Make a zink template and run it in plaster as you would with cornice that's how I was taught.

[@GeekStreet]

Thanks for the information much appreciated.

[@robpennington9237]

How about an inside radius? I tried that and the mdf didn't like to bend inside. What would you suggest?

[@trevormaclean7916]

Cut the kerf on the outside instead for inside. Radius leave only about 1 8th of material and space your kerfs out exactly 1/2 inch

[@lesleyfrench4182]

Did I miss something? How did you not cut all the way through? Is there a setting on the saw that stops you accidentally cutting all the way through?

[@GeekStreet]

Yes you can set a stop point

[@jamesastell3000]

That is horrendous

[@setitthen]

He's made a wedding cake

[@josemanjarrez6298]

cool trick, luckily i have El & El wood products within 10 miles from me in Chino Ca. they sell flex molding of all profiles for $6 to $10 per foot. makes my jobs a breeze.

[@gwalker007]

Yeah 'planked' the mdf skirting board and put a weight on it, soaked it using a hose and left over night

[@bkvike]

I knew it wasn't going to end well but I couldn't stop watching. The gap filling section was painful to watch.

[@Elitiest_Hitman]

Pause at 10:31 and have a good look. You can bet I would have made you redo that mess. The butt joints are a bad idea. You can see the flats on the radius. The lines don't match up on the floor or on the top. And the whole thing is not smooth...even the wall portion that you put the filler on. And you used a water based drywall mud for the filler. Water + MDF is a truly bad idea. Not to mention the strength of that corner is questionable. One good hit from moving furniture or a kick will pop a seam. I appreciate the effort and the video. But come on mate, you can't be happy with this. I came here to see if there was an easier way than what I was about to do. My way is to cut small pieces and fit them in one at a time with brad nails and top with wood filler. It is more work than your method; however, the finish is flawless.

[@GTAHomeGuy]

Your mitre saw is a sliding miter saw... so you didn't need to turn the board or use a tablesaw as you suggested was the reason for needing to turn. The reason I point this out is for anyone reading I believe that is an indicator that this isn't the most experienced tutorial. I appreciate the effort but that finished product doesn't look professional there are some hard straight lines vertically where the bends are and I am certain most people would have a problem with it. I don't want to keep going on, my recommendation is to look elsewhere for kerf cut examples.

[@Burgattti]

These comments killed me

[@keithsanderson8597]

nice touch on turning the mic off while running the saw

[@kbtube8125]

you got to block sand it to save it. get rid of the peaks.

[@vividconcept]

It's a Kerf cut, not Kef........kerf refering to the thickness of a sawblade.

[@hendhend5801]

vividconcept Definition of kerf. 1 : a slit or notch made by a saw or cutting torch. 2 : the width of cut made by a saw or cutting torch.

[@carchannel9223]

Facet with a series of 22 1/2 degree cuts

[@jacobgarcia3426]

bro that angle is a 22.5 it should have a little insert on the corner of the wall. meaning right where the wall starts curving. so for the wrap around there are 3 pieces of baseboard. this is a 22.5 angle s

[@grottooo]

No offense, but buying wood trim and boiling it moments before bending to the curved corner would give much better results.There are obvious lines where then cuts were made that can never be sanded out with this method.

[@tarbell111]

great concept accept you needed way more sanding. and finer mud work

[@tls5870]

...... or just use flex mould which is available by the foot affordably, can be installed in a mere fraction of the time, and looks 100 times better. I've never seen anyone try to do it this way, it's insanity. Also - always mitre splices. If it's going to be painted you shouldn't see joints at all after.

[@Stop..carry-on]

Yeeha!

[@pauljohnson4590]

If you are going to use filler, then you should have sacrificed the upper section of the moulding totally, leaving just the bottom sectioned removed all the MDF backing to almost the plasticiser front face. Then you could have it bend cleanly around the corner. Make a reverse template of a piece of the moulding with car body filler, and a wipe of vaseline to enable it to detach, and you can then use this to form the user section, but you need something a little better and finer than ordinary filler - probably plaster of paris or similar fine particle filler. Looking at the property, it strikes me as a project where finish is important. If somebody has gone to the trouble and extra expense of curved walls, then curved skirting should at least match.

[@Lee-qt7zp]

good effort but I think your recesses were slightly to deep hence the flat spotting around the face .

[@williamdelery3766]

The saw cuts straight you don't need a square

[@abezdnb]

🤣😆😂

[@dannydiamond276]

Not a very flat finish , what about all the bumps and the uneven top edge , hope that was your own house and not someone paying you

[@adamjones7497]

If you came to my house and tried to charge me for that work, I'd ask you politely to leave my house. I'd then immediately tell you that had best do it in the next 10 seconds or you'd be staring at the barrel end of an 18 gauge. And then I'd start counting. Hashtag, justsayin

[@andypeterson3972]

Adam Jones You would threaten him with a finish nailer??

[@michaelwalsh2287]

Hey buddy just try and not catch up on here in the chopsaw just a heads up

[@mirsad4964]

To all you guys leaving negative comments. I knew he wasn't a carpenter as soon as I saw the tape measure and the drop saw .and it's obvious he is not a good painter either ...A good painter could have made that look good . He should have : mitred both ends a longer piece of skirting not mark at the centre every 6mm instead of 10mm. Not a poor as some might think ( assuming it's not his trade ) they'd murder you where I work though.

[@marquisbois990]

Hmmm. Not a great job I'm afraid. Also straight butt joints for the following boards really not a good idea....should mitred in. You've got the gear to do it properly!

[@024dogtop]

I do KERF some bends but this is not a situation for kerfing. Its too tight of a bend and you had breakage occur. For all that time spent and the finished look being unprofessional looking I would have went a different route. Why not just glue and tape up 20 small, lightly mitered pieces together? No giant holes to fill, no bondo, and clean looking lines. Flex mold would be ideal.

[@buckbuck9225]

can i get a 1/4 pound of mahogany sliced thin please?

[@olegj6599]

Заметны острые углы на згибах. За такую работу по голове не погладят.

[@TomTomTomTom538]

Damn a smaller knife that is actually clean would help! Honestly looks terrible.

[@ksingh8794]

If you gonna fill it why did you not put the cuts on the outside? But MDF you can just wet it and bend it.

[@jameslindley8318]

10 CENTIMETERS ??? OR MILLIMETERS?