HOW TO BID TREE JOBS

[@covocy842]

I have been an Arborist for +25 years. To all who are saying here that We just want to cut down all the trees? No one care more about the trees than us. We would rather treat or trim a tree to save it than remove it. Unfortunately when the Arborist is called the tree in question is usually Very dead or dying and is a safety hazard. Many of us have actually talked people OUT of removing trees. Trees can often increase property values, but dead or hazardous tree can decrease values.

[@danielm2312]

True statement brother I also try to talk customers out of topping and have refused to do this on occasion especially if in time it will worsen the problem they think topping will prevent. I appreciate what beautiful things nature offers and only do removals if in fact the tree is hazardous to a home or business or power lines an still try an avoid it if something can be done to redirect any potential threats it can become. I usually only top your smaller decorative ornamentals like Bradford or aristocrat pear trees to give them a good canopy and or reduce weight through winter to prevent any damage cause they tend to break fairly easy under strain if there mature I'll just dead wood or thin them out and shape the canopy but when it comes to topping in my professional opinion it's only helpful to, if the tree isn't at full growth and your looking for the canopy to be somewhat fuller in time. Now say a tree is preventing you from adding to your home and there looking to take it down for something sensical I dont mind but if there's no real reason or plan for the removal I try to avoid those unless say it's a silver maple. the only maples I care for are crimson king or sugar maples all the others I'm not a fan of.

[@adamslawson]

Best part: "You Are Awesome, You Are Amazing, You Are One of a Kind. Tomorrow is a new day, be creative and own it!"

[@teddybhear3766]

Since he wont disclose the bid, I will. On that job, I would have bid 1500 without stump grinding. I would have used a 35 foot towable boom that cost me under 50 bucks a day because i rent it by the month, this would save the hassle of pulling shit out of the river. The rounds I would advertise on craigs list for free firewood rounds further reducing my workload because someone always comes and picks them up for free. My Bid? 1500 without stump grinding. Time required for this job? One and a half days tops. 8-12 hours. there it is there. if stump grinding is required thats another one hour to grind and clean up so I would take the cost of what a rental company charges the consumer (around 150 a day?) then add 100 for labor. so thats an additional 250. Stump grinding is physically demanding so dont be afraid to charge accordingly. at least 100 an hour with a one hour min. if you need to rent the grinder charge at least 225 for the rental plus labor. So thats 1750.00 with stump grinding, 13 hours tops. Thats working by myself using a 35 foot boom lift and a 6x12 dump trailer.

[@alonsogarcia1990]

I watched the whole thing also and learned nothing on how to price. Only how he goes about his day.

[@AgentEdwin]

well, i think we've been had twice . At least this time I pushed the little thumb down thingy.

[@derekdaddyo2557]

what was the price?

[@danielm2312]

Trimming typical day rate for 8 hrs is around 1700 to 2 k depending on the company but removal can become pricey, you may get bid at a day rate depending how long the job will take and manpower plus equipment used but I've done extremely large trees for upwards of 8 to 10k+ depending how accessible it was and structures being in the way powerlines ect but say a tree of the same size that's really accessible with no obstacles can cut that price in half it just really depends what your facing to do the job. I really hate when people call an ask a over the phone price and say let me send you a picture an let me know what u think when a picture isn't always justified! It's like we can throw numbers back an forth all day on the phone but u cant be definitive on price till u know what your working with and visually access the task at hand. For anyone looking to have work done ask for insurance coverage there's a lot of schmos out there with a truck trailer an chainsaw looking for beer money and falling for a cheap price could cost you dearly in the process.

[@Dbjjr26]

Very thorough video brother. I like the way you logically go through that system to limit bs.

[@nom5205]

I watched this whole video to see how the bid is done...BUT you never told the bid.... so i unsubscrive and gave you a thumbs down. The price would have made a hell of a lot of sense for this video

[@elizabethchiron6313]

Yeah really. Waste of time watching that!

[@jimmylucero7144]

Do the bids according to how fast you can do the job and make 150-400 an hour

[@kylearmijo6820]

That's outstanding, I think. As long as your not selling yourself short. I get just over half, I strive for at least half.

[@northcountrynation]

Kyle Armijo part of the reason my percentage is so high at the moment is because my insurance company refers me for home owners claims. At that point the customer don't ask questions because the one paying the bill is the one that referred me. But I always say if your getting them all your too cheap. If your not getting any your too expensive. But 50% is perfect bro. Keep at it.

[@davidgorelle8967]

Great info bud👍And great optimism, love it

[@aphysique]

So what's a ball park estimate taking pine tree's down with a solo dude, maybe 20 to 30 ft in hight, like, per tree??? Hypothetical one tree at a time, cutting it up not hauling it away? wanted to hear a price per tree, would've like to hear it

[@teddybhear3766]

depends on how much branches, etc. but at least 1000

[@ryanschaff723]

I don't like giving prices if the customer isn't there. If I would do that job with no stump grind 2k

[@damonbarnhill9154]

I had 2200 in my mind .. Little extra for the swimming lol.

[@B_MAN_707]

Damn, I really give great prices. I would have said 1k or lower lol. Need to up my bid game. About to do a removal oak tree, I say atleast 30+ feet in height very wide with a lot of branches for only 500$ a lot of work. What would you guys say on that bid? Nothing of value underneath. No power lines. Everything will be chipped except larger pieces

[@alanr4263]

Thanx info /kind of true I Don't think the people know how much work really goes into it.When u going through everything I was saying same to myself.Whats the price?

[@aphysique]

yeah, dude never said price...wtf

[@gregthayer2347]

Good advice. What part of the country is this? Beautiful scenery

[@northcountrynation]

Greg Thayer northern Michigan!

[@momofone28]

Greg Thayer Wexford county boy

[@ramiromolina8911]

I wanted to know your ballpark estimate. I look was looking forward price. 1500- 2000. Something.

[@EdsonA503]

How do you bid a tree stump job?

[@jazzlives]

Thanks for sharing this, but what figure did you finally quote her on the job?

[@nom5205]

thats a secrect. You get shafted only if you have a tree for him.

[@kylearmijo6820]

What percentage of your bids do you get? Just seeing what your strategy gets you vs me who just asks for an address and goes and gives a formal estimate

[@northcountrynation]

Kyle Armijo lately I have been getting 80%. Time is money bro. and I don't have time to waste on people that just want to see what it might cost if they were to be possible interested. Lol.

[@thejackel1844]

If the "Bucket Truck Boys" can get to it, I'm not interested...

[@jamesdurstine8892]

TIME IS MONEY IN THE TREE BUS. AND FINDING THE RIGHT GROUND GUYS. 35 YEARS FOR ME. STAY SAFE BROTHER. 880 59" BAR. 36LBS PEACE

[@chrisburnsed6349]

Here in California we demand 50% payment before we even touch a leaf. And the balance immediately upon completion before we leave. This also weeds out bullshit customers . Any customer who tries to negotiate prices at all we tell them we’re sorry I can’t help you. The unlicensed uninsured scammer will eventually knock on your door to help you. Have a nice day.

[@teddybhear3766]

well you are full if shit. Here in California, it is illegal to collect more than 10 percent deposit however, that is usually collected by contractors, like masons, framers,etc who need to purchase building materials, not tree companies. I NEVER charge a deposit and frankly I dont know of any tree company in California that does. I charge the customer when the job is done and they are satisfied with the work I did. Never have i been screwed out of money doing things this way. Dont take this guys advice or you will end up in criminal court when the California Contractors Board tickets you for a misdameanor. Here this is from the contractors board in California and applies to D49 tree license. Contractors cannot ask for a deposit of more than 10 percent of the total cost of the job or $1,000, whichever is less. * (This applies to any home improvement project, including swimming pools.) Stick to your schedule of payments and don't let payments get ahead of the completed work. listen - folks are pretty much trustworthy. do a good honest job and you wont have issues getting paid. thats been my experience. the attitude of this guy and the tree company he works for makes me wonder how the hell they get any customers or repeat business. the approach, and attitude is ALL Wrong not to mention illegal.

[@HYDETREEWORKS]

I do the same in the tri state area of OH,IN,KY. Half up front other half when finished. I've been screwed over 1 time and 1 time only then implemented that rule. Did an entire job over 3 days and dude refused to pay.

[@johndro3014]

Love the coupon thing on the site to sweeten the pot.

[@marianatequiero28]

I video about what you factor into your bid , no numbers nice

[@sethdewey9123]

How much was the bid for brother

[@MrThenry1988]

I still get the you can have the wood for free calls. Lol. Good show.

[@northcountrynation]

Tim Henry haha. How bout no. Lol. I hate those calls. They think fire wood is worth good money. I can't get through to them that it's gonna cost me money to come take the wood by the time I pay my guys and all my expenses. Some people never will understand!

[@MrThenry1988]

North Country outdoor. I figure they gotta try. Most of those calls are from people that you know has the money. People I can tell might not mind the work, they just can't cut the big stuff. Usually work out a deal where I take the big stuff and leave the brush piled for them. Ill even let them pile it. Lol

[@bobschwaller5293]

I have a Sawmill and can use the logs. How can I get my local tree services to pay me to haul off the large logs

[@randyhughes5160]

Your how to bid had zero prices hell I can say it will be a lot when I fix cars

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

I'm a tree cutter I've an experience of about 15yrs. what will be the salary

[@nemecioluna2846]

40$ hour plus 60$ hour over time. You get your own crew paid for already 2 guys, Bucket truck, and equipment, you don't have to do maintenance on the equipment or trucks. Everything is paid for just show up. Plus you get benefits like 401k and health care.

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

@@nemecioluna2846 where I get work

[@nemecioluna6276]

My email is [e-mail] if you live in Chicago send me an email.

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

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[@treetechnics]

@@nemecioluna6276 hello sir i have a 6 7 year experience in tree cutting i want a job

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

what will be the monthly salary of an experienced guy

[@ianlaframboi1]

i usto work for a guy who made 400k in a season

[@danielm2312]

I'll say this I climb professionally and have been in the business 14yrs, I've made 100k in a year but I was busy asf and I know my shit 6yrs in tree work isn't experienced enough in that short time you have only experienced the tip of the cock. When I started I pulled brush for 10$ an hr for 2 years then 13$ an after 10 years with my experience I made it to 20$ then my cdl to drive equipment gave me 25$ and through licensing to feed an treat for malnutrition or disease brought me up if I average my pay per day it's about 38 to 40 an hr I usually dont bring home less than 250 a day but I'll say I didn't get there in 6 years so if u want to be there you have so much more to learn and do to make that kind of money. I'm also independently contracted I work for the highest bidder I dont do the company thing on a clock anymore cause the only motherfucker making money in those situations is the owner who usually doesn't do shit or know shit. I can personally say among most companies in my area I have more credentials to do the job than the people who call themselves owners/bosses. I've proved my worth an put in the time an went independent and my phone stays ringing with work cause these guys know i dont fuck around and my resume speaks for itself. Besides when alot of these guys go to treat trees they dont have the license or any certification to purchase some of the materials u have to have to get them. Say this, a ash is being treated for emerald ash bores a gallon of treatment is upwards of 1k to purchase and it has to be injected like an i.v and u have to install a pump system to do it and over a period of time it stays with the tree until its healthy then u remove it but u have to be certified and licensed to do it an with that knowledge comes worth.

[@justinthomas4259]

Nice video thx

[@kevino1489]

I used to live in Lansing Michigan now in Tucson Arizona

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

how to meet you for work

[@carlosecheverri4072]

Just a question to you: Are you tree guys offer to plant another tree to replace the one turn down ? . Or this should be mandatory by laws and city regulations in order to prevent a ecological disaster; because if people don't think about planting a tree, world will be a big Sahara soon. I think people should put a little bit effort to keep communities green. What are you doing.......?

[@northcountrynation]

Carlos Echeverri I only take down trees that are endangering structures. If I was taking down trees in the middle of the forest I would definitely be planting some. I think your thinking more towards loggers that take thousands of trees and don’t put any back. I’m not a logger.

[@carlosecheverri4072]

North Country outdoor Absolutely, I just think that you guys should offer e complementary service of planting back a baby tree. That way you offer the service while keep a green community. it also could be another income. and by the way the cicles never ends. You see ?? Is a win win to all. What you think ????

[@northcountrynation]

Carlos Echeverri im not opposed to that. I think it’s such a fast pace world. That we try to get in and out as fast as we can. And don’t give it much thought. I guess ultimately it would be up to the homeowners if they wanted a new tree planted.

[@hollywood7927]

Props to you for answering back to this jackass! People like that have NO clue of what they are talking about! They just enjoy getting in to peoples lives to make themselves feel better I guess! Cheers brother! btw...was that a Roman Atwood shoutout at the end?

[@maxdecphoenix]

You Present several false equivalences. First, cutting down a tree is not synonymous with killing the tree you dumb shit. Trees evolved in parallel with large herbivores for the last several hundred million years, had they not evolved existences to these animals, there would be no trees now. With the exceptions of conifers, virtually every species of broadleaf tree and shrub you have ever seen has the capacity to exhibit adventitious budding. This it's a beneficial mutation in archaic trees, that allowed for trees to adapt to grazing during the rise of herbivorous life. Trees that could adapt passed on their genes, ones that couldn't died. We're living with the ones that did. It is this very capacity for adaptation that when exploited creates the foundation of modern harvesting and sustainable wood stewards. The fact that you are completely ignorant of this exposes your comments to be nothing more than hollow virtue signals. Secondly, a reduction in tree scape does not equate to desertification. In comparison to other vegetative species, trees are quite inefficient in resource usage. Particularly when compared to grasses. And I'm not talking about shitty lawn or turf grasses which are likely the only grasses you've ever encountered in your privileged suburban existence. While trees are excellent at sequestering atmospheric carbon, they don't actually excel at pulling it from the air. Grasses however do. Grasses are exceptional at removing b large amounts of carbon from the air in relatively short periods of time. For their size, grasses actually create more biomass annually than a tree. This does not mean trees are without merit. And with simple pruning techniques the best each has to offer can be maintained. Though likely not by lazy, ignorant people such as yourself, who, by virtue of their ignorance, give prefe fence and diefication to one class and imperil the other. Also, this isn't 1850, the old cut and tumble logging methods are gone.the Bri replacement mandates you advocate for ate already the law in the majority of the world's nations, or the industry standard where not. You are utterly unprepared to speak on this topic.

[@graysquirreltreeservice7299]

I disagree with u,been arborist for 20 yrs,u doing stuff over the phone that should be done in person,I get tons of jobs by meeting in person,I feel u about wasting time I have thought of charging for the estimate

[@dmeingojohnson2570]

thanks

[@cory1369]

I like some of the customers faces whn I give the bids. Have u ever watched The movie avatar? Well u know tht tree they call the mother tree I just bid one like tht. $18,000 and I was under $3,000. I told the customer they might want to move lol

[@superflyguy218]

Yeah, Because you underbid jobs and don't take proper safety precaution when dropping/falling your tress :) not safe or legal. don't get hurt pal

[@cory1369]

superflyguy218 do wht !proper safety precautions.. how long have u been in the tree business? So u know it’s Fell a tree not drop

[@superflyguy218]

Doesn't matter if I didnt use the proper term. Your vids prove you use cheap unsafe no rope techniques cutting your trees down and thats why you are able to charge low and under bid other tree companies. Night time tree falling?really? I know......Less/no witnesses haha

[@cory1369]

superflyguy218 lil buddy ur right it’s not rope it’s cable.lol. Yea at night because it was about to fall on the house and the home owners was glad tht I did it. Ps I pulled tht tree up from 35 degree lean over thr house. Anytime u think u know wht ur doin i would be more thn happy to pay for ur flight here and show me! U should know to keep ur mouth shut whn grown folks talk

[@hollywood7927]

LOL

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

I want to work with you

[@northcountrynation]

Buythul Malik haha. Your welcome to anytime!

[@treetechnics]

@@northcountrynation i need tree cutting job

[@JamesBrown-ey4mt]

You didn't give any prices. Thumbs down.

[@northcountrynation]

James Brown at the time of this video I wasn't sure if I wanted to put prices out there. But now I'm to the point where I don't feel it's such a big deal with the trees. I'm not sure I will ever give my prices for snow plowing because I would hate for someone to come into my town and take my work from me because I tried helping people. Remember this is KZbin and there's slot of nasty people out there. I can tell you that I bid this job at 1800.00 to cut down and haul away all debris. Including stump grinding. That price is a little low for my area but I wanted the job.

[@bbigrocker1]

@North Country outdoor I'd never post prices, it has nothing to do with the video if you ask me. I was under the impression that you were making a video of the PROCESS which I thought you did a fine job. Nicely done!

[@peanutbutterisfu]

North Country outdoor I have a 2ft diameter 100ft tall oak tree that's between 2 houses and over both of them. 1st quote was 2000 from a guy that had no insurance and did it on the side. 2nd quote was from an actual company for $3000 but after telling him I had a quote for $2000 he said 1800.. I never thought people paid that kinda money to cut down trees. I'm not saying it's easy work but damn.

[@northcountrynation]

peanutbutterisfu 1500-2000 is about right for a tree that size.

[@bbigrocker1]

@peanutbutterisfu I would love to see a picture of that tree, the numbers you are getting are way out of whack. Most of the time the numbers from competent operators are relatively close. The guy "doing it on the side" I can't really speak for him. But factors that affect cost are hazards, access and size. I think North Country touched on those issues. That very same tree in the middle of a field where it could be cut with no climbing would be considerably less. But when you have two major hazards(houses) you'll have to expect to pay a premium. And it can get rather expensive.

[@moviemazadarrmoviemazadarr6592]

hlo

[@thejackel1844]

Coupons ?, can I get fries with that ?...

[@southernizerwatching7468]

I would never hire you .You seem too quick tempered. It would seem you take everything too personal can't afford to do that.perhaps once you're in this a few yrs, you'll outgrow those infantile emotions.Good luck...STAY FOCUSED ! Remember to OWN it

[@kylecracraft4380]

You seem like a very picky/critic! I thought the boy sounded just fine! But then again, I tend to look for the positive in people and situations! I stopped hanging around people who are negative and see the bad in a good situation. Own it!!

[@southernizerwatching7468]

Kyle cracraft I only reminded him to take his own advice. Perhaps I was a little critical..thank you