I am about to do my loft. I don't have a nail gun so it will be screwed. Will the glue still be necessary? Shouldn't there be a gap between the top of the insulation and the underside of the boards for air-flow?
@SomeHomies Жыл бұрын
Cheers for that! Only found all the fancy expensive loft leg videos while thinking, cant I just use timber? Really helpful!
@LTWCarpentry Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind comment !
@kenn19362 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that great tip at the end. And... thank you for sharing. I am a complete amateur and I ordered loft boards from B & Q .. that is coming tomorrow!! I was freaking out, but am calmer now that I have watched this video and saw your reply about not having to raise the boards. I thought I was going to have to go and order more wood and revise my plan!!!!! Appreciate this video, very much. (now all I am worried about if the wiring in the loft - I am going to cut out grooves in the joists to leave them where they are, but lower the wiring under the boards - rather than just slap boards on top of wiring)!!!!! I just hope there is a tiny bit of flexibility in the wiring. I do not have any downlighter or anything else that will be awkward ). Just doing what you did here - partial loft only.
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Good luck buddy, take your time, pay attention to anything that might be in your way. Make a note of the cables and make sure your watch your footing, you don’t want to end up the the room below 👍🏻
@amandaamanda23652 жыл бұрын
Wish you were available in Belfast, hope i find someone as good as you to do my work. Thanks for taking the time to make the video and sharing it
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment 👍🏻
@Terrythemaker3 жыл бұрын
Another useful video from LTW, 👍🏼
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Terry ! Another video coming tomorrow 👍🏻
@jimbaf Жыл бұрын
Very good video. Thank you for the tutorial.
@LTWCarpentry Жыл бұрын
Thank you Wilson, your never alone
@opticonor Жыл бұрын
Great tips!
@LTWCarpentry Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@opticonor Жыл бұрын
@@LTWCarpentry The cold wash tip at the end might save me a lot of scratching haha - thanks for the vid!
@WoodworkJourney3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that!
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Thank for you kind words buddy ! 👍🏻
@bobnudd68792 ай бұрын
The best tip of all haha was the use cold water before opening your paws with hot water 😅😅😅😂nice vid
@LTWCarpentryАй бұрын
lol, I thought that would help a few people !
@bobnudd6879Ай бұрын
@LTWCarpentry spot on mate thanks for replying 👍 I want to cut my trusts out in my loft but scared I may weaken the structure. Would putting beams across rafter to rafter work do you think ? To strengthen it so I can cut them out? You must of seen lofts with them diagonal beams that look like triangle 🔺️ but on there side?
@thewhitetrashqueen84 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful video! Everything here in the US is new builds which is nothing like working with an upgrade in an older house
@LTWCarpentry Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 🍻
@pauldawe44189 ай бұрын
What size are timber to make the frame please
@LTWCarpentry9 ай бұрын
These where 3x2s
@alcorfield11572 жыл бұрын
That's a great video thanks. Love your style of presentation & narration. Informative, simple to follow steps & the speeded up video an absolute bonus.
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Nice one buddy ! Thanks very much for the comment ! Really appreciate it 👍🏻
@TheWESTSIDE19672 жыл бұрын
i was going to do mine like this basically build a 2x2 frame then loftboard, but i thought you had to raise it up on legs so it's not pushing the insulation down causing the ceiling to bulge etc, mine looks exactly as you had here 👍
@robertsmart7484 Жыл бұрын
If you don't care about global warming or your heating bill, by all mens build it like this. If you squash the insulation it reduces it's effectiveness. If you store too much weight on the boards, the ceiling below will deflect and possibly crack at plasterboard joints, because the ceiling joists weren't designed for the loading that floor joists can take. And by gluing and nailing the boards down rather than screwing without glue, that will make any future rewiring of lights much more difficult and expensive.
@TheWESTSIDE1967 Жыл бұрын
@@robertsmart7484 true, but mine should be fine with 2x2 as it has flattened & loft board is lightweight material ?
@Sionnach16019 ай бұрын
@@robertsmart7484Global warm-what? Let me guess: you still believe in Santa Claus too
@MadLFC11 ай бұрын
Nice efficient job there mate. I'm doing exactly the same setup with the same materials minus the handy nail gun I'm afraid. The perks of being a pro. Never mind I'll manage.
@LTWCarpentry11 ай бұрын
Screws for the win mate, they can be removed which is a bonus !
@kendalley23142 жыл бұрын
… I’m thinking of following your system for a portion of my loft for light storage for cases and some books and a few kids toys … the sides would be 2.2 metre x 3.0 metre … using kiln dried treated wood for the 3 by 2. I’ve calculated the whole structure would weigh about 45kg plus the weight of the chip boards to cover it … house built in 1980 … I’m concerned that the frame adds a fair amount of extra weight to be supported by the joists and just wanted your opinion … obviously just an opinion since you couldn’t give any detailed advice not having seen the job … great video btw👍
@Brodyins7 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video. Do you not put the insulation back?
@LTWCarpentry7 ай бұрын
Your welcome, yes I put the insulation back
@darrenmackenzie1892 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend doing this to a new build house if i was going to floor the loft?
@MrBish112 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that you used a nail gun and glue, we use screws just in case it has to come up again for any reason. Well done though, good job !
@jasonchadderton473911 ай бұрын
What size timbers did you use? And are they treated?
@LTWCarpentry11 ай бұрын
I used 3x2 and no not treated mate
@1972LeeD2 жыл бұрын
What size of timber did you use for the framework?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
3x2 buddy
@leeguitarmcr2 жыл бұрын
I can see that your insulation isn't at 270mm..... I need to do this same job in my house and what you have done here is ideal for what I need. However, Does it really matter if my insulation Isn't at 270mm, in terms of a regs point of view? If I fit flooring on top of 270mm insulation I won't have much headroom left in the loft, rendering the whole process useless for my needs. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Great video, thanks.
@s.wilson56752 жыл бұрын
You could try adding Superfoil to the rafters and using less insulation between joists, this will create a "warm loft".
@smellypunks Жыл бұрын
You could use PIR board it reduces 270 down to about 150mm as PIR is a better insulator.
@StevetheWeave.2 жыл бұрын
Nice video mate but I was just wondering if using glue is really necessary because surely a couple of nails here & there would be sufficient on what is just a floating floor
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
You could get away with just screwing but I wouldn’t recommend just a few screws I would say atleast 3 screws at each joist as this will add strength to the structure, I would always suggest using glue as this is belt and braces.
@vinster6662 жыл бұрын
How much did that job cost
@MarcusT862 жыл бұрын
Hello mate, could you do this with Spax screws instead of a nail gun?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Ohh yes mate, to be honest if this was a floor that had a lot of traffic I.e a bedroom or something I would screw it anyway just incase it squeaks at all. Cheers for the comment 👍🏻
@Keith195632 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for sharing 👍🏻
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
No prob 👍🏻 thank you for your comment ! I really appreciate it 👍🏻
@kostaslepeniotis54582 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks!
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome ! Thanks for your comment !
@kyleaustin35732 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, I have a newish build, with roof trusses that span from front to back of house. Would I be able to build something like this on top? Thanks
@Sionnach16019 ай бұрын
He doesn't bother answering any questions. He will only give his attention to flattery
@andrewroberts61583 жыл бұрын
I thought I saw that tripod the other day. Don’t envy you that job but as you say they can’t always be nice, turned out to be a great space 👍🏻
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Yes mate ! You probably did see it when I was messaging you ! Yeah mate much better use of the space now ! The customers can actually get up there !
@baggiemad Жыл бұрын
Top video, going to do mine similar. What size is the boarding joists you are using please and how do you know where to fix that first centre board so the off cuts fit so perfectly each end. Sorry I’m terrible at measuring!
@alex1975uk2 жыл бұрын
Hi. What sizes (length) were the nails in the gun?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
I used 60mm nails buddy
@alex1975uk2 жыл бұрын
@@LTWCarpentry thanks. That size big enough to attach the “frame” to the original joists?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@alex1975uk sorry mate I used 90mm for that and 60s to hold down the boards
@twix922 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend using timber for support rather than plastic raising legs?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
It really mate both options are good, just I prefer to do it this was as being a carpenter I gravitate towards timber.
@brianbanfield53972 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for a great video. It was very clear, concise and easy to follow. Would it be reasonable to say that the T&G chipboard you used for the floor also contributes to the insulation in the attic? So the floored area is now better insulated than before due to the effect of the chipboard added to that of the fibreglass? Thanks again.
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment, yes in theory what your saying makes sense and I am inclined to agree with you although I couldn’t say for sure. Thanks again for your comment 👍🏻
@robertsmart7484 Жыл бұрын
Chipboard is nowhere near as good an insulator as fibreglass. Yes there is a small amount of insulation from the chipboard, but if you sqash say 150mm of fibreglass down to 75mm that reduces it's insulation value down to slightly less than that of 75mm thich fibreglass. So overall here, this loft now is less well insulated. Good job there isn't an energy crisis.
@Sionnach16019 ай бұрын
@@robertsmart7484There isn't an energy crisis: just a fabricated one.
@ryanbamforth12902 жыл бұрын
What size beams did you use
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
I used 3x2 buddy
@ryanbamforth12902 жыл бұрын
@@LTWCarpentry thank you. Are you in the UK? Was this enough space for the insulation?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbamforth1290 no problem
@AlexBubus2 жыл бұрын
Hey amazing video helped a lot. How would you make sure that frame is level when the joists aren't? Thank you.
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t worry to much about level as it’s not a “floor” as such, I would however aim for reasonably flat as you will find it hard to lay the tongue and groove board otherwise, you can shoot for level but I wouldn’t stress to much about it.
@fralanasko29002 жыл бұрын
That nail gun is cool af
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
It’s a good gun I won’t lie !
@Andy713uk2 жыл бұрын
Great video, did you have an issue with uneven joists in the loft floor?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
No fortunately this was relatively flat, if it was uneven I would either notch my timbers (not the existing ones) or shim and pack as required
@christhompson17082 жыл бұрын
Spot on job that like 👍
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy 👍🏻
@alangibson8292 жыл бұрын
How much would it cost for materials for a job like this?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
I think it was only £250 from memory
@rs_99_5 ай бұрын
Best loft boarding vid on YT… !!
@LTWCarpentry5 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy! Much appreciated 🍻👍
@Lord-Panda21122 жыл бұрын
This is great! Daft question, why no noggins in between the long pieces?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, really is this frame wasn’t really for strength, just to allow for more insulation.
@kepeb127 күн бұрын
Cold wash first is an EXCELLENT tip. Don't forget this one people.
@LTWCarpentry25 күн бұрын
One of the best lessons I have learnt over the years buddy.
@loushared6602 Жыл бұрын
Great video, it’s a job far beyond my capabilities but I wanted to see what was involved. I’ve recently moved into a new flat and I’m looking to have a bit of my loft boarded for some extra storage storage, but I’ve been told I can’t because the void forms the building structure. It’s a new build and I was counting on more surface space to store some relatively small boxes. The heaviest would be (roughly) a 40 x 60cm box of cookery books. Does anyone have any suggestions? The previous owner has boarded a small section and he suggested I went for an option that can be easily removed. Any help or advice greatly received. New subscriber. Hopefully I’ll find a video within my skill set - I always learn a lot. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
@andrewmorris29962 жыл бұрын
Loft boarding novice here. Your video was really good, very concise. I toyed with the idea of raising the floor a bit but have you done it purely to fit the insulation underneath that was already there or is there an issue fixing the boards directly to joists? My joists are 600mm apart so presumably you did it at 400mm for strength? My main concern is the strength of my roof. The frames are 100mm x 35mm at 600mm spacings.
@apexmadjb83412 жыл бұрын
The frame on too was for added support and also not to squash the insulation as building regulations state it has to be minimum of 270 mm thick and if insulation is flattened it does not work efficiently and also can put pressure on the bedroom ceiling causing cracks and damage
@lisamargery31172 жыл бұрын
How much would something like that cost?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
I’m really sorry but I don’t discuss costings on here, I dont feel it’s fair in my customers
@darussianping612 жыл бұрын
How much is a job like that?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I don’t discuss money in my channel.
@tobiashillis27003 ай бұрын
Are you in kent? 😂 Need the same done lol
@LTWCarpentry3 ай бұрын
lol, give me a message on Instagram and we can have a chat mate
@islamicreminders30902 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job ,how much do you charge ?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment but I’m affraid i don’t discuss money on my channel
@superiorbeing95 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to be there one day in the future when the electrician discovers all those boards are glued down 🤣
@LTWCarpentry Жыл бұрын
The electrician wouldn’t try and unscrew it anyway, he would just wack it with a hammer to make a hole 😂
@superiorbeing95 Жыл бұрын
@@LTWCarpentry Oh yeh, no big issues then😆
@towkukus2 жыл бұрын
Where are you based?
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Chelmsford essex buddy
@thecaretaker10003 жыл бұрын
I hate fibreglass insulation good tip about the shower
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Horrible stuff isn’t it ! Really not fun to work with 👍🏻
@bloggs6924132 жыл бұрын
yeah is a good tip never thought about washing down with cold first got this job to do and I really suffer from the fiberglass
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@bloggs692413 mate deffo use the cold water tip first ! Helps loads ! Horrible stuff isn’t it ! I hope I do t get another one of them for a while.
@rts66272 жыл бұрын
@@bloggs692413 j
@PhilsWorkshop19533 жыл бұрын
Seasons greetings to you and your family
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
And to you and yours buddy ! 👍🏻
@tobiashillis27003 ай бұрын
How much would a handyman charge to do this job on average?
@danielledean-barlas2887Ай бұрын
We've just had ours done and I paid £580, but that's including ladder, light and all materials.
@charlesbrown75792 жыл бұрын
why did you put clue on, what happens if you have to take the boards up for something
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
It’s common practice to glue boards down, stops them squeaking, if the boards have to be removed which is very unlikely, they can cut the section out then re glue it back in.
@k.Newbbie2 жыл бұрын
Great work 👍 could you have attached the boards straight onto the joist? Thinking of a similar space for the same purpose.
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, yes you can the only reason for lifting the flooring off is to get more insulation in there. As the insulation was already in place I didn’t want to remove it.
@k.Newbbie2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice and quick response ✌
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@k.Newbbie your more then welcome buddy
@djturner19922 жыл бұрын
No you can't government guidelines say you need at least 270mm insulation. So you can't attach straight too the joists
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@djturner1992 no they are guidelines not regulations.
@charliebarnard58642 жыл бұрын
Looks like you added unsupported weight' to a framework that was only supposed to hold' plaster boards insulation and light fittings? Nice job
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Thank very much
@tundeuk2 жыл бұрын
That’s a criticism I think
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
@@tundeuk yeah I know mate but I really don’t want to have arguments with people on the internet, really not worth it you know.
@tundeuk2 жыл бұрын
@@LTWCarpentry Great way to think
@michaelplays24493 жыл бұрын
Great job !!! well done
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy ! 👍🏻
@matthews83773 жыл бұрын
Would you be too concerned about the added weight on the old timbers? Was going to do something similar but was going to try anchor into the walls to spread load or would you not worry. Say worry I mean more cracks in the plastered ceiling 😂😂🤦♂️
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
I mean it all depends on what you going to be strong up there, the additional timbers I put in will help to spread the weight, where possible I would try to utilise the internal walls that are underneath where your putting the stuff your storing. Also I would try and space the stuff out rather then putting all in one big pile in the middle. To be honest I have never had any problems when doing this for customers. If you are worried about the timbers in your roof you could always laminate these (glue and bolt extra timbers to the side of them) to give them extra strength. Hope this makes sense and helps buddy.
@garvielloken39292 жыл бұрын
@@LTWCarpentry Priceless info
@djturner19922 жыл бұрын
Doesnt it have too be 270mm depth it doesn't 270
@jamieeallard1133 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@garvielloken39292 жыл бұрын
Nooice!
@LTWCarpentry2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@roberthatcher27733 жыл бұрын
Who likes working in a loft?
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
I bet there will be a fair few mate 😂😂
@alanmansell42973 ай бұрын
Don't do it in August unless at night, or you're looking to shed a stone or two!
@ck008uk Жыл бұрын
Even after a year, your fingers might be still itchy
@jamieeallard1133 жыл бұрын
Wicked video babe!!!! Xxxx
@LTWCarpentry3 жыл бұрын
Thank you babes xxxx
@thequietone2998 Жыл бұрын
People are charging me stupid prices to board my loft and as a woman... me and my 33 year old will do it after watching yours and other videos 🇬🇧👍🏾
@thequietone2998 Жыл бұрын
***son
@chickenfist1554 Жыл бұрын
Whoever boarded my loft (before I bought the house) cut notches in the boards and then put them underneath all the wiring 🤦♂