How to build a Set Wall

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Gratuitous Sets

Gratuitous Sets

7 жыл бұрын

The project this week: Matt runs us through the process of making a reusable set wall - you know, the 'sets' part of 'Gratuitous Sets'

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@lodo2099
@lodo2099 Жыл бұрын
Well... I am making these kind of walls for a photoshoot... And i always wondered how to make them sturdy enough... This video is absolute gold
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
Call us if you have any questions!!
@IAMWILLBROWN
@IAMWILLBROWN 11 ай бұрын
Same!!
@PeterSodhi
@PeterSodhi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this exactly what I was looking for
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! :-D
@EliteDJJoe
@EliteDJJoe 6 жыл бұрын
Great Info!!! Thank you so much
@manwithaknife4642
@manwithaknife4642 2 жыл бұрын
So cool! I'm gearing up for a food channel and this was super helpful. Fun side note, the materials used for this are very similar to the ones needed to make casting shapes for concrete countertops.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Yes! I hadn't thought of that but it's true. We do pretty weird stuff on our channel and a good "materials library" is vital! -Mark
@calliemaddiecats5457
@calliemaddiecats5457 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sending me the videos for how to stabilize these walls!
@joelongtin7532
@joelongtin7532 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! well produced and super informative. I am trying to replace something that is an overbuilt set, made with 2x4's and cardboard. Overbuilt and highly subject to damage. This is exactly what we need to upgrade it.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! yeah- building something like this TOO heavily actually CONTRIBUTES to the damage it takes. lol- good luck, and we're glad we could help. BTW, we consider this our most boring video :-D i hope you enjoy the others even more! hehehehe
@TheJaeAshley
@TheJaeAshley 7 ай бұрын
This was great! I was just trying to explain set walls after I described a memory of my youth stumbling upon the set wall storage of the X-files in riverview hospital. I was familiar with musical theater but I remember being so mind blown it was the exact same in tbe movies 😂❤ this is actually great for theater kids new to set design as well!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 ай бұрын
LOL -I'm glad you enjoyed it! I know that sometimes in theater they will use canvas sometimes, too.🤓
@Andili76
@Andili76 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you very much for sharing..
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!!
@FindingTrueFreedom
@FindingTrueFreedom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was really helpful!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Let me know if we can answer any questions 😀
@mariajakson8
@mariajakson8 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. it helps to give idea about how to build a stabilize these wall. thanks for sharing with us.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Any time! Let us know how we can help 😁
@Ephisus
@Ephisus 4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t tell you how happy it makes us when people get something from our videos 😃 I hope our other videos inspire you, too!!
@skoue4165
@skoue4165 4 жыл бұрын
TV flats. Well that is what we called them. Theatre flats are generally made with the 1X4 on edge so they are a bunch thinner. Big proscenium stages will skin with canvas but smaller theatres will also be using luan. A super low budget version does the supports the same (TV flat style) but skins with corrugated paper (the cardboard in cardboard boxes). And yep you make a lot of walls...
@nicksbikevlog
@nicksbikevlog 10 ай бұрын
Great vid!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! 😁
@t.kuykendall517
@t.kuykendall517 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it helped! Thanks for the “Thank you”!😀
@christhompsonphotography6783
@christhompsonphotography6783 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!😊
@DowneastThunderCreations
@DowneastThunderCreations 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Great approach to making videos. Just hit the subscribe button. Semper Fi brother!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! We answer all comments in person, so ask any questions when you have them, and call us if we can help. Phone and email is on our Facebook--> Gratuitous Sets Laboratories and our web address is gratuitoussets.com -Mark
@christhompsonphotography6783
@christhompsonphotography6783 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video on KZbin BTW.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! That's high praise! Have you watched any of our practical effects/Game design stuff?
@christhompsonphotography6783
@christhompsonphotography6783 2 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets I have not, but I've watched Avatar and Titanic. :D
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
LOL🤔
@dylanatakoussok5395
@dylanatakoussok5395 4 жыл бұрын
Wow ur really good at what u do. Plz keep making vids.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you to say! Thanks! We will 😀
@sarahgudsell469
@sarahgudsell469 5 жыл бұрын
How many vertical braces would you recommend for a 3.7m long wall? and how many stabliser jacks?
@LeeBailes
@LeeBailes 5 жыл бұрын
Really helpful. thanks :)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@povitree
@povitree 3 жыл бұрын
Tnx for sharing this
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!😁
@everettclark6632
@everettclark6632 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, I learn a lot
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 7 жыл бұрын
Hehe- I'm glad you're getting something from it. Let us know if you have questions about anything you think we could help with; we answer very quickly :-D
@everettclark6632
@everettclark6632 7 жыл бұрын
will do
@iraginger
@iraginger 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! Just sent an email for how you build the jack stands. Thank you for sharing this!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Sending now 😜
@explosionsandstuff7787
@explosionsandstuff7787 2 жыл бұрын
I found this because I'm considering building a "video store" set, and I was wondering if you have any content regarding how to incorporate a functioning door into one of these set walls.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a video for that yet, but you can just call me at 214-529-0045 and i can explain how to do it
@_EdwinM
@_EdwinM 6 жыл бұрын
Gracias!!!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
De nada!!! 👍
@sanelendlovu1893
@sanelendlovu1893 4 жыл бұрын
Coooool😎 Thanks!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! 😃
@savethefails
@savethefails 5 жыл бұрын
love this video. I was about to build a fake wall for a set for some videos and I would have done it "wrong". One question though, when you have the wider wall with the second piece of luan attached, how do you make the visible face look seamless? Do you fill it with something and sand it? Do you hide/disguise it? Thanks!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Bondo, or some other brand of auto body filler is going to be your best friend 👍😁👍
@WouterAlberts
@WouterAlberts Жыл бұрын
Great instructional video, timeless. Would be great if you added titles with conversion to metric system, because it'll be easier for the rest of us without continuously converting mid video on a calculator, hehe. Cheers!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
Noted😁
@jaxsonmac6827
@jaxsonmac6827 2 жыл бұрын
Great video stumbled upon this trying to learn how to build sets for a community theater. I'm a carpenter and roofer by trade so the skillet and concepts aren't foreign to me, but still somehow I'm fairly nervous about getting in to building a set I feel like I may over build it.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
You can do it! I understand your apprehension, though. I've seen some sets built with 2X4's and they weigh a million pounds LOL
@jaxsonmac6827
@jaxsonmac6827 2 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets That's definitely part of my anxiety is building set pieces that are too heavy to be moved or used in a practical way. I'm trying my best to recall my theater tech days from high school and community college and then researching the rest.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
You can always call us if you want any suggestions or advice!😜
@jaxsonmac6827
@jaxsonmac6827 2 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets that is very much appreciated and I definitely may take you up on that offer.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Phone# is on Facebook!
@josephhoover4542
@josephhoover4542 Жыл бұрын
Great video this a career im definitely interested in I go to a vocational career center for interactive media and we have done a little bit of set construction but haven’t really gone in depth with it this video definitely was enlightening
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
Nice! Where is the center located?
@josephhoover4542
@josephhoover4542 Жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets Groveport Ohio its a sort of small town just outside of Columbus
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
Our number is on our Facebook page- gimme a shout if you have any questions 😁
@jonhcontreras
@jonhcontreras 5 жыл бұрын
nice presentation... you are a friendly, funny man :-)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Lol- Thank you, Sir!!
@dummkompf
@dummkompf Жыл бұрын
do you use 1x4 instead of 2x4 lumber for your full size walls? or did you say you used plywood cut into strips? Trying to decide what to use for the framing materials on a temporary wall I'm building in my house, for dividing a room where the primary goal is to make one section as soundproof as possible.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
It's 3/4 inch plywood that we cut down to 2 5/8" strips. Nominally, it would be close to 1x3 but we save a bunch by cutting it down ourselves, and plywood is much stronger than pine or poplar 😁
@kareemabulaban9456
@kareemabulaban9456 2 жыл бұрын
this video is awesome. So we're planning a fairly large set build. Its a cave (think like stone age). Planning to build the basic layout of the cave with flats and then coating them with a combo of expanding foam (shaved and painted), eva foam (shaved and painted), and other techniques to get the rock texture. is that how you guys would accomplish something like this or maybe something different?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap Kareem!! I have a video on that! Hang on...I'll get a link...
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
This shows the use of Smooth-on urethane foams of different densities (expanding foam) We were not in a position to change the room architecture, so this was our compromise. You can start with EPS foam (styrofoam with the little beads) to carve the general shape, then goop 5 pound Foam-it on top. Directional lighting helps with the final look. Call me if you have any questions! 214-529-0045 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ini0Ypqli7agoKM
@videodamarte-christianzecc8555
@videodamarte-christianzecc8555 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you! Is it possible to use this method to build escape rooms, too, or do you use drywalls for those? I think this might be a cheaper and maybe quicker method but I am afraid if people lean against those plywood walls they could move and not be so stable and I am also afraid they are not ok to be used with nails to hang paintings and stuff for the same possible stability issue? Thank you
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
We do, but only when we can attach them flat onto an existing wall or studs. We use them when we need a SFX wall but it can't easily build it on site, so we build it in our studio and transport it. Also, it the public will be able to touch it we use 1/4" MDF or thicker as a skin. 😁
@videodamarte-christianzecc8555
@videodamarte-christianzecc8555 3 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets thank you very much! So, normally, escape rooms have drywalls, right?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
We generally hang them with French Cleats
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Yes- Mostly drywall
@felipevece
@felipevece 3 жыл бұрын
How do you make seamless the conection between one flat next to the other?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
We cut a dado in the frame for a full height flush piece of pine (Matt points it out in the video towards the end) both pieces of the "skin" butt against each other and are stapled to it for rigidity. We use Bondo or spackle to fill this butted seam to make it smooth (lots of sanding)😉
@SceneryFarm
@SceneryFarm 6 жыл бұрын
Quite enjoyed your video Cheers J
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! We've got a bunch more but, please enjoy responsibly. lol ;-)
@SceneryFarm
@SceneryFarm 6 жыл бұрын
my goal is to practice safe sets at all times. have a peek at my vids for light entertainment on this topic :) Best J
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
hehehe safe sets. Your channel has some great content! You NEED to record with a lav mic. You will get sooo many more subscribers with such great stuff!
@SceneryFarm
@SceneryFarm 6 жыл бұрын
I have one, I did not think it was worth the bother. I will use it in the future after your thoughtful response. Be well J
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
It makes all the difference, and more people should see your stuff
@VereniceMusic
@VereniceMusic 2 жыл бұрын
How do the walls get propped up so they don’t fall down? Is there a specific build for the supports?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
We have a video for that! LOL- Sorry it wasn't included in the other video. Here ya go!---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/p56UgWOZorSokNU
@kellydray4443
@kellydray4443 Жыл бұрын
I am wanting to make a 6ft wide x 9ft length so what would be my best in inches of wood to use?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
You can call me for numbers if you want help at 214-529-0045. Are you using material in metric or imperial?
@stevenalbright3363
@stevenalbright3363 6 жыл бұрын
Semper Fi
@matthewcharles7574
@matthewcharles7574 6 жыл бұрын
Yut!
@timm2020
@timm2020 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the flats I have seen or built are framed with 1x4s. What is the cost savings by using 3/4" ply?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
We get 17 sticks out of each $30 sheet of A/C plywood, but the real benefit is strength. Ply doesn't split and crack when we screw on jack stands. It can take a lot more punishment and lasts longer. We definitely used 1x4s when we first started but switched to plywood about 13 years ago.😀
@timm2020
@timm2020 4 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets That makes sense! Thanks
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
We LOVE any question! Thank you for asking and we will ALWAYS answer yours 🙏👍
@lostlakepictures7378
@lostlakepictures7378 2 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets That looks like sanded plywood. Is that what you're using? Or just regular 3/4 inch ply?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
For the framing? That's 3/4" A/C plywood or Baltic Birch ply would work as well
@ClaudioMV
@ClaudioMV 6 жыл бұрын
What is the thickness on the verticals, rails and toggles? half inch plywood?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
The whole frame is 3/4" AC plywood so it's 23/32" :-D
@CB5786
@CB5786 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you prefer to cut down plywood instead of buying 1"x4"x10'? Is it because each bunk has 10-15% warped and twisted and cupped lumber? Are their other reasons? Thank you.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
All of that, plus it is much more resistant to splitting and cracking when screwed to a jack MANY times in its life. Easier, cheaper, better, stronger, faster, sexier, fat-free, caffeinated, etc.😜
@RobMcKeown
@RobMcKeown 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks!
@niccorosette231
@niccorosette231 5 жыл бұрын
I just built a quite a few10' tall flats with 8' sheets of Luan. I could not find a single lumber yard in southern California that stocked or could order 10 footers. Who do you order your sheet goods from?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
What a pain! We get our sheet goods from a place called Rugby here in Dallas
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Jones lumber should be able to help you in Socal-- they have 4x10 Lauan (spelling critical for search) www.joneslumber.com/products/plywood
@tafferine
@tafferine 5 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm trying to make stairs for a set and I can't find much information regarding how to make them. Would you be able to help if I email you?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delayed response- Better if you call me. Get my number from our Facebook page.
@karenc2550
@karenc2550 4 жыл бұрын
trying to make a temporary bedroom wall that I can move or take down later. what type of wood do I need and materials? Also I would like to add a door that is cheap too? very low budget. the height is 7 foot and the length is 8 foot 10 inches not including a door.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
I'd need to ask you a few questions, but I would be happy to give you whatever advice you need. It shouldn't take too long, but messaging back and forth in the comments section wouldn't be very efficient-- Call me on the phone or through WhatsApp at my phone number which is listed on our facebook page. On Facebook we are Gratuitous Sets Laboratories . Let me know If this can work (or just call me)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
Hello? Karen!😁
@deiamuri3304
@deiamuri3304 4 ай бұрын
Doctor hable más sobre el psiliun, a mi me ayuda pero me causa dolor estomacal, está bien que lo siga usando.
@gerripearson9647
@gerripearson9647 3 жыл бұрын
What is this career called? I’ve googled every combo I can think of and couldn’t figure it out Thank you for this video
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gerri! You might Google "Production Designer" or "Set Construction"😁
@traavdasav
@traavdasav 2 жыл бұрын
Iatse Local 44 Propmakers Your welcome
@jmfs3497
@jmfs3497 7 ай бұрын
I built a whole bunch of 2x4 walls using drywall for an art gallery, and I have no idea why I didn't think about doing it the set design way. It seems so obvious in hindsight.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 7 ай бұрын
Maybe next time...😂
@6BlackWings
@6BlackWings 5 жыл бұрын
How do you get them to stand up? I.e. what kind of mounting goes into them?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Gratuitous Sets I have two videos I shot for someone else who asked that question so, if you message me on our Facebook page with your email, I can send them to you 😁 Message me your email address on Facebook or post it here
@carocampana1140
@carocampana1140 3 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets have the same question...madebycarola@gmail.com
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Carolina! 3 emails sent (2 contain videos, 1 with my phone number) from thepilot402@hotmail.com -- My business email is mark@gratsets.com
@Treadwayevents
@Treadwayevents 4 жыл бұрын
How do you connect a double sided flat?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
I would probably use a doubler or stringer (another toggle) across the top of the walls to hold them together. Since this cant be done at the bottom, I would use a small hinge or bracket. Let me know if this makes sense 😁
@SmooveFilmsMediaProduction
@SmooveFilmsMediaProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Your mannerisms are funny af man 😂
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Matt is an odd duck! LOL🤣 Our editing got a lot better within the last two years...
@SmooveFilmsMediaProduction
@SmooveFilmsMediaProduction 2 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets noooo, keep it like that! Hahaha
@SmooveFilmsMediaProduction
@SmooveFilmsMediaProduction 2 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets if you guys ever need an editor check me out!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take a look. Devon does editing for us right now. He has good comic beats. Here is a vid of me he edited---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ_Qe5yIhbOCndE
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... are you from New Orleans TOO?!?
@shaestheticsss
@shaestheticsss 6 жыл бұрын
I need a portable wall for a project that I’m working on? How could I make this stand.. wheels maybe? Also can I attached paper mache letter to this with ease?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
I have 1 minute video that shows you how to make it stand. Yes- a paper mache letter would be no problem. If you message me on bookface or here I can send instructions
@tuibui9498
@tuibui9498 4 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets Hey, can i get the 1 minute video or link for the stand? Won't need wheels for mine
@colinmccord59
@colinmccord59 6 жыл бұрын
I try to not route sides of flats if possible, especially if it has to sit next to another flat. I find even if you are extremely careful skinning there will still inevitably be some curvature to framing material and router will follow any inconsistencies in the frame. I would rather have the skin over hung by a 1/32 in a spot and have a nice tight seam in the finished set wall. :)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Cool solution! Since our flats are 95% used for still photo shoots, we don't even dress the seams after the set is built. Since they are re-used many times, any spackle build-up just makes the re-toucher's job harder. How does the 1/32 hang over affect longevity?
@chase.wilson
@chase.wilson 6 жыл бұрын
So it's assumed that any seam is removed in post. What type of ply do you use for the subframe?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Arauco A/C. Generally, a quick blade of spackle dresses anything on these. Haven't had a substantive problem in 10 years and a wall lasts probably 30 uses easily. We try to give them a quick 220 sanding between paint jobs to keep small flaws from growing.
@colinmccord59
@colinmccord59 6 жыл бұрын
Gratuitous Sets My shop does not currently have enough space to keep a stock inventory of walls and staging for rentals yet.(working on moving to a significantly larger shop currently that may change that) I would say 90 percent of walls we build are totally custom or weird sizes anyway, I build a lot of live theatre shows and corporate stuff. You pretty much build your walls the exact same we do in general, just a couple of my guys get overzealous routing things that should not be routed. The vast majority of things we build are not reused, so longevity is not generally an issue.
@colinmccord59
@colinmccord59 6 жыл бұрын
Chase Wilson I personally use 3/4 radiata pine cabinet ply. It mills nicely and generally pretty straight. Oh, I can get it for under $35 a sheet in Georgia and use it for majority of my flat construction.
@joemiller9838
@joemiller9838 5 жыл бұрын
How do you hide the seam where the plywood boards connect?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Spackle or Bondo, then sand carefully with 220 grit sandpaper 👍
@justinherman9443
@justinherman9443 5 жыл бұрын
Latex Caulk can also work.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Sir!
@hunterreed1010
@hunterreed1010 Жыл бұрын
MATT! PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON ARCHES FOR THEATRICAL SETS! THANK YOU!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
We have one! I'll get you a link 😁
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2ezZIN5hbaAhJo
@ac.6854
@ac.6854 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, I would like to know how to create a wall that would stand on its own. How can I contact you for information?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Hi AC ! Contact info and my phone number is on our Facebook page: Gratuitous Sets Laboratories. -Mark
@amoledor
@amoledor 6 жыл бұрын
How do you secure the skin on the full sized wall? Staples, brads, or screws/nails? Also, how do you secure the uprights for the full sized wall at the seam?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Hi amoledor! Sorry it took so long for me to reply. If the skin is lauan, we usually use 18 ga crown staples at 5/8” long. If the skin is 1/4” MDF, we use 23 ga pin nailer at 3/4” long. Now, here’s the complicated part... the horizontal “toggles” are dadoed to receive the vertical seam plate. Once the seam plate is inserted into the dado, it is nailed with 16 ga nails at 1 1/4 long.
@amoledor
@amoledor 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
😃
@amoledor
@amoledor 6 жыл бұрын
Curious as to any specific reason you choose to work with 3/4" AC Plywood over 1x3's?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Pine sucks ass. it will split easily when a screw is driven into the edge of the toggles. The frame would have a very short lifespan. pine cupps, warps and splits Ply is cheaper,truer, better, straighter, faster, stronger, etc.
@anthonylee121
@anthonylee121 6 жыл бұрын
How do you brace them so they'll stand up by themselves?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
We use jack stands or "jacks". If you'd like, message me with an email address and I'll send you some pics :-D
@anthonylee121
@anthonylee121 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and the quick reply. I sent you a message.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
looong email and photos sent.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
did you get the email?
@Mishaaaaah
@Mishaaaaah 2 жыл бұрын
How does it not tip over? I would think of someone bumped into it, it would just fall down.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you should ask! We have another video called "Set Walls: How to use them" here--> kzbin.info/www/bejne/p56UgWOZorSokNU
@inkocus
@inkocus 5 жыл бұрын
this is great! I'm using the info right now. What if I want to make a 8x8 foot flat covered with 2 of those 4x8 plastic fake brick sheets. What thickness of mdf would you choose to back it? And how do you brace an 8x8 wall so it doesn't flex too much?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
We've done them without backing- the dado plate takes care of that pretty well. your dado plate would be vertically centered for the brick seam. If you DO want to back it, run 1/4' or 6mm MDF horizontally, then brick panels run vertically. We have a video that shows a brick wall, entitled --> A brief story from Mark on a TV set
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
also- is it masonite sheet brick like you would find at Lowes or is it vacuum formed plastic sheet brick?
@inkocus
@inkocus 5 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets oh its masonite. so maybe it doesn't need backing.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet- yep, that's your skin
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hICaoqaodqiEhZo I did these with a rubber float and a 30/70 mixture of off-white paint and drywall mud applied with a rubber float so i could squeegee off the bricks while leaving stuff in the mortar lines :-D
@AnanasJaune
@AnanasJaune 7 жыл бұрын
How do I connect them
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 7 жыл бұрын
With 1 person on the frame side (behind the wall) and one on the finished side start making the 2 walls flush at the bottom, working your way up. About every 2 feet or 70cm, drive a screw and washer horizontally through both frames. We use 1 5/8" drywall screws with 3/16" inner diameter/ 3/4" outer diameter washers. These are sold at Home Depot and Lowes but the ID/OD are non-standard so you will confuse the employees and end up finding them yourself. If the walls are going to be set on wheels, or if the set is semi-permanent, add 1/4 - 20 bolts with washers and nuts between the screws. Use "jack stands" to hold them upright if this is a free standing set, or use plywood "L" brace cleats to attach them to an existing wall. Make the cleats from the same 2 5/8 stock we use to build the frame, and it will fit perfectly. -Mark
@JAdrew
@JAdrew 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the wood?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
We get it from a local supplier called Rugby, but any decent plywood supplier should stock 4x10 lauan or MDF. Not Home Depot or Lowes, though.
@JAdrew
@JAdrew 5 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets thanks!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Sorry about the delayed response
@CraftyElephantMedia
@CraftyElephantMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Could you send me the information for building jacks for these types of sets? Couldn't find your contact info on your page. Much appreciated!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
email me at Mark@gratsets.com and ill send it to you :-0
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Matt! i need your email address
@sirzacharius967
@sirzacharius967 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Do you mind if I give you a call (only asked as I saw you suggest on other comments). I have a potential semi permanent set to build with a door and it will be a L-shape wall...but will be my first wall. I took many notes from your (the best one) and a few others.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Go ahead! Shoot me a text right before you call so i know it's not spam.
@papsmear666
@papsmear666 3 жыл бұрын
Will a will built this way support a flat screen 36"
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Not by itself, but it's easy enough. Use a block of wood (preferably plywood) behind the wall to screw the mount to. Call me at 214-529-0045 for better instructions -Mark
@papsmear666
@papsmear666 3 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets Mark, Thanks for your speedy reply. I know exactly what u mean by using plywood. I really appreciate that tip. Great Video very informative. Keep up the great work!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Thank you, "Pap" lol
@pyrobryan
@pyrobryan 4 жыл бұрын
Now, my hearing isn't the greatest in the world, but I could swear at 4:23 there's an extra "ch" at the end of "trim bit". :)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
Lol--Sometimes, Matt has some speech issues
@travelingman525
@travelingman525 3 жыл бұрын
Are you guys finding 4'x10 AC Ply? that's not something I have ever run into without being a high price specialty item. With the Plywood do you have issues with the Ply De-laminating when you are screwing in Jacks to the cross section? Also, do you have any concerns about the Environmental Impact of using Lauan, we have been looking for alternatives for years, and the largest I have found is 49"x97" MDF which has its own problems (weight specifically). How often are you having your sets exceed 10'? None of the questions are meant to be "got ya" questions, but sincerely a "that's interesting, I have had problems with this concept before, are you doing something different?" In one part of the country it was more cost effective to purchase 1x12x16' and rip to 2.75" to frame out walls, and where I am now, it is more cost effective to buy 2x4 DF in any length for framing (makes no sense, but it is true, usually not much more than a cent or more per foot, but it adds up fast over a season.) So the possibility to have an alternative is extremely intriguing! (also, I think you mentioned doing a Dado cut for your seam supports, and you had a video, but I can't find the comment for that.....are you dado'ing using a Router, Table Saw, something else? Do you use the dado's on non-reusable walls (where you may want to re-use materials?)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
We can get 4x10 AC, but it's not worth the expense. We often use a corrugated nailer to add an extension to the side pieces. We dont have issues with plywood delaminating, but we use washers with all jackstand screws to keep the heads from over-penetrating and splitting things apart. We used to use 1x12x16' pine or finger-jointed pine, but it splits horribly when not piloted first. Additionally, the
@jmasked5082
@jmasked5082 5 жыл бұрын
'closer to 23/32nds' - holy crap, the imperial system makes me want to vomit, (thanks for this great vid though!)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! We curse it daily. We also have to deal with materials in nominal, imperial and metric- simultaneously. 😜
@PB4U
@PB4U 4 жыл бұрын
about 18mm
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Matt and I complain about our fractional system all the time- lol. If we DID use mm, we would end up using 1/2 or 1/4 mm since we try to be accurate to at LEAST 1/64"
@jmasked5082
@jmasked5082 4 жыл бұрын
@Erich Weiler Hmm.. I actually like the USA.. just anti-imperial I guess? But I am anti-nationalism as well ;) I don't think a people can be defined by a measurement system..
@ScottKraft
@ScottKraft 3 жыл бұрын
How you build a curved set wall, say the interior of a tubular hallway. ?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
We actually have a video on that already! It was a bit rushed, so let me know if you still have questions 😁 Here it is----> kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2ezZIN5hbaAhJo
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
Note: BendBoard comes in "Drum" OR "Column" depending whether it bends on the long axis or the short axis (4'x8' sheet)
@elizabethboegel5965
@elizabethboegel5965 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, can you email me the information on the back braces (to keep them upright) please? Thank you!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
I have two videos I shot for someone else who asked that question so, if you message me on our Facebook page with your email, I can send them to you 😁
@elizabethboegel5965
@elizabethboegel5965 6 жыл бұрын
I think I've figured it out. Thanks!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@ladyqonimvu8604
@ladyqonimvu8604 6 жыл бұрын
measure twice cut once..
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 6 жыл бұрын
Dang! We ALWAYS get that wrong... lol
@administracaobluelakeevent1991
@administracaobluelakeevent1991 4 жыл бұрын
quem faria isso no brazil?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 4 жыл бұрын
Eu não sei. Eu sinto Muito
@MinReiSakato
@MinReiSakato 2 жыл бұрын
So much math
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
It would be SO much easier with metric materials!
@jcdelphhusson-gubert2863
@jcdelphhusson-gubert2863 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. you should be on stage. stand up about walls ... ;)
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets Жыл бұрын
I'll tell Matt for ya! lol😂
@justinherman9443
@justinherman9443 5 жыл бұрын
Why 2+5/8ths? kzbin.info/www/bejne/b17UoXSKfa11f68 Seems to not fit evenly in 48. Seems to make 17.5 strips if you have an 1/8 inch kerf against a 4 foot wide sheet of plywood. 2+3/8 would give you 19.2 strips and 2+7/8 would give you 16 even. Am I missing something? (maybe you are leaving extra for waste but even a 16th inch kerf does not fit evenly with 2+5/8) Thoughts?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin! How's things? Our kerf is 5/32 ...It's just a sweet spot between 2.5 and 3 where you don't end up with a bit of scrap that's just shy of the target and it's a good strength and size :-D
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
OOPS- correction---> kerf is 3/32"
@patrickguzman7355
@patrickguzman7355 5 жыл бұрын
So I’m guessing you hire only marine vets ?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Totally unintentionally, about half of our hires have been fellow Jarheads. Which makes it surprising how little we destroy.
@kmonnier
@kmonnier 5 жыл бұрын
What is this? A set for ants?
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Lol- It's a scaled down version to aid the demonstration. Well quipped, sir! ;-)
@kmonnier
@kmonnier 5 жыл бұрын
@@GratuitousSets best explanation of why to leave the top and bottom styles long.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks :-D
@raulvasquez807
@raulvasquez807 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. It was a reference to zoolander.
@NuMetal92
@NuMetal92 3 жыл бұрын
just use metric measurements. this 2/ 5/8th", 23/32nd", 1/ 7/16th is ridiculous
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree! But, since we are in the US, the materials we use are produced in stupid english standards. If i called 1/4 inch 6mm it would only be approximate and, therefore, incorrect. I wish we could properly convert to metric.
@you452tube
@you452tube 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of what y'all do is create a ton of waste.
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, yes. I wish there were a way to recycle sawdust and scraps but, there just isn't one.
@russelljenkins69
@russelljenkins69 5 жыл бұрын
STUPID IMPERIAL SYSTEM!!!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! 😂🙄
@kathleendelgadofinearts4119
@kathleendelgadofinearts4119 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. How do you put in a vertical seam plate for a full size wall? When do you install it? Is it part of the frame or is it done by itself before the frame? Thank you!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
It is part of the frame- we use a technique called a dado to fit a plate into the frame where the two pieces will meet. Matt talks about it briefly in the video where he pulls out a full sized wall. Call me through the number on our Facebook page if it’s hard to follow or you need more info 🤪. -Mark
@Cooperandohara
@Cooperandohara 5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking through your videos trying to find this piece where he pulls out the full sized wall and haven't found anything yet, can you direct me to where or some other way to get info on hiding the seam between joined flats and/or making larger flats? Thanks!
@GratuitousSets
@GratuitousSets 5 жыл бұрын
I can answer this, but it would be a lot of typing ;-D -- if you're in the U.S, call me at 214-529-0045 -Mark from Gratuitous Sets
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