How to Build a Shower Bench: Tile Coach Episode 26

[@Tako2e]

From nothing to something🤙🏽 I remember going to hardware stores not being able to buy what I wanted to help me do the job easier. And settle for less. But now I can buy mostly any tool I need at the drop of a dime. Hard work pays off. Keep up the great vidz Mr.O🤙🏽

[@SalDiBlasi]

Nice Video Isaac, I like to use some long screws in strategic places to hold things together while the adhesive dries.

[@jamrock97sb]

I've thought twice about screwing kerdi to kerdi..But u make prefect sense Sal.

[@Rustyshackleford752]

I like to toss some long screws in mine as well, just a piece of mind thing. Great video

[@diegohernan82]

That $400 DeWalt power tool as an aspirational consumer brand... the feels... loved that Wish you the best. Cheers,

[@marktate6844]

I've stuck alot of 4" foam on big commercial projects down here in south fla. Some being parex systems and some being Dryvit systems. Some were 1/2" stucco systems. Mesh, polymer base coat (thinset), aquagard, the whole nine. Two applications each system. Somtimes three if the architect really wanted to cover himself. But it's always just a matter of time before moisture and humidity have there way to separate that bond between mud and foam. I'd be pretty skeptical putting that foam in my shower. Especially as the bench. You do nice work though brother. Keep it up.

[@littlehills739]

so what would you do for shipping container shower bench ?

[@vivianwood8332]

Nice video Issac.I will be remodeling my bathroom and I'll be using your video bench for my new shower.Thanks for the tips

[@mattmills4651]

Good video I always been kinda skeptical of the 2 inch panels for benches but nice to see someone installing one 👍

[@wrswrs9444]

Learning alot from all your videos thank you very much

[@michaelhorn9114]

Awesome video. Awesome material!

[@teh60]

That 2” Kerdi board works great for that application. Looks very strong.

[@dylan-nguyen]

thanks for this video I was *SHOCKED* that the kerdi pre-fab bench was *$272* and then one sheet of the 2" thick kerdi board is only *$92*

[@johnbeckman8916]

MMMMmmmmmaaaaaaan, this guy is a PRO. How come he starts slinging thinset with clean cloths and ends with..........................CLEAN CLOTHS? Mad skills! • 😃

[@daveclark2458]

Good video Isaac 👍🏼 that bench can hold just as much weight as a framed wood bench...no doubt...I got the same saw setup....all this talk about safety I think we need a table saw stand to keep the sketchy cuts more manageable lol

[@mattleon1128]

I appreciated you sharing that about your tools as well

[@newvisionremodeling8892]

When making a wide rip where the fence is past the table flip the support arm down, it is built into the fence and is very handy, this will allow you to keep downward pressure on material near the fence providing better control🖒

[@tileslay6543]

Just throwing a helpful tip. Go Bosch tools. If you do any sort of flooring Bosch is the way to go.dewalt beats them on drills but not sds or demo hammers.

[@Hhhhhhlllll]

And cheaper

[@hl8808]

Tile Slay I can vouch for the Bosch sds breaker

[@Bigcee248]

Looks good. Good job!

[@askthisoldtileman5401]

Just for thought when you run table saw you have to hold on the board on the fence side only if that was plywood you would have a major kick back. I have same table saw. The older one feel it was made better then new ones.. come on Isaac build it out of blocks. I know you are using there products for promo. As always you do great work,keep it up.👊

[@BlahBlahManYeah]

When you shoot on phone camera, it always worth to begin with, by wiping lenses with cloth, like T-shirt, it helps tremendously with annoying autofocus thingy. Thanks for sharing!

[@BlahBlahManYeah]

Isaac Ostrom well, if you use DSLR, those in live view mode had to use slow method, which is based on contrast fluctuation to find the right focus, DSLR can’t use its AF sensor (super fast and accurate) as it works in conjunction with mirror, which is unavailable with live view. It makes more sense to use action camera If you do a lot of close up shots in cramped spaces (like bathroom). I don’t say that DSLR has no use, but genre of how to videos implies a lot of close up, which in case of DSLR needs prestage work to get quality picture.

[@BlahBlahManYeah]

Isaac Ostrom , yes, something like YI+ or last generation GoPro with gimbal will be much more suitable setup. For instance, the scene where you demoing assemble of shower bench, your head is cut-off most of scenes as you hitting limits of 18mm (the max zoom out of your lenses), which in reality of 80D crop factor, that has no full frame sensor, turns into 35mm. My understanding you went with 2.8f to cope with low light. Something like YI 4K series or recent generations of GoPro are decent in low light and better suited for this type of action, also fraction of your setup cost. Yes, those don’t have zoom, so cameraman has to move more for zoom in/zoom outs. DSLR lessens with big opening shines with DOF effect, and less distortion which would work better in prestaged setup, like talking sessions.

[@brianjohnson8883]

I wanted to see how you water proofed it. I am doing something similar. You mentioned using Kerti band. I believe this to be 5.5" wide but the board is 2" thick. So, how is the 2" over lap achieved? Then what is the purpose of the fleece? Not a lot sticks to polyethylene.

[@nmlindon20]

You can make much cheaper from 2x4 backer boards and on my opinion you should have more support at center

[@lockpickingvlad]

Nice work man! You gave me some spine chills when I saw the table saw and your hands so close (kind of like watching a horror movie), although I was a finish carpenter for 12 years. It’s one thing when you’re doing it, and completely different when you’re watching someone else doing exact same thing. Have you tried cutting Kerdi boars with a jigsaw? Just curious. You could probably do all kinds of curves and bends, wrap it in some mosaic, and viola!

[@Tboy-y6q]

You always look fly. Like you're working in brand new clothes. I'd get covered in muck everytime

[@dancole6867]

To get fall toward shower pan, do you cut the foam on an angle or just make it up with the thinset?

[@tonymc3817]

Nice job man.

[@travisk5589]

Hey Isaac. How do you plumb your walls before you hang your backer. I am still looking for the best way. I have used plywood strips on edge, sheetrock shims, wet shimmed. But still looking for something better.

[@WINNI.Designs]

That’s awesome. Great video! Can you do the same with one piece of board for a corner seat. Floating one?

[@TILEROB]

Good video

[@willhere8892]

Easy to install. I used to build benches out of blocks....This foam method is easier but i prefer wedi board. Are you using kerdi to waterproof that shower?

[@TilerHub]

That love for tools ❤️❤️

[@61zachary]

Is the strength of that kerdi board comparable to the strength of a framed bench?

[@RalphGrey-bc8kt]

Same exact thing i was thinking.....Im debating whether to stick with wood frame or switch to foam? I like how light and easy it is to work with

[@pascualsolorzano5792]

I wouldn't put that garbage in my own home, much less on one of my jobs. Did he say cool or fool way to do it?

[@d-nice1209]

Does anyone have any answers to this question. I'm curious to know how this holds up over time and with someone who is heavy standing on the bench ???

[@jeffs5129]

Call me crazy but I think its way easier to nail a wood bench together and skin it with backerboard. Which method do you prefer?

[@robgautomotive]

Same here. My dad taught me to do a bench with 2x4 and hardiboard.. Its surprising to see people use this new material but for some reason i wouldnt trust it. If i ever did use this type of material for a shower bench id be scared to get a call back that some elderly/ handicap person fell right through the foam while taking a shower..gives me more of a security using wood and hardiboard

[@krehbein]

@@robgautomotive wood is all good as long as your 100% with your waterproofing, Then it’s an issue. Foam doesn’t rot.

[@jameslgeerling]

Nice saw. What kind of blade are you using to cut the KB? I have a project with quite a bit of cutting and want a very clean cut with minimal polystyrene dust.

[@heathburch3238]

In your opinion do you think this method is as good or better than using cinder blocks?

[@cliffmcleroy8168]

Do you waterproof that 22.5 degree corner with plain kerdi band?

[@MrTooTechnical]

perfect. nice. did u use megalite by custom building products for that thinset?????

[@megans4762]

Do you have any videos creating a wavy shower bench? Ideally with dimensions :)

[@creedbarnett4948]

Isaac I've seen several retro-fit barrier-free entry showers on concrete slab, but no video on how to cut the slab for proper slope etc. Do you have one or a link to a good tutorial? Thanks for sharing your passion!

[@dannybrazil3986]

That would be interesting may be instead of cutting the slab, grinding a be a better choice. then float deck mud for slope,height and a flat surface.

[@krehbein]

@@dannybrazil3986 grinding would be a lot slower.

[@JG-pw5cr]

I know that you can do things this way but I'm a big dude and I would be a little bit weary about trusting foam to handle my 320 lbs of mass, lol.

[@palmerstile9379]

We ran a 3500 truck over one of these boards... Next day used it in a shower, no damage. Know about this product before you comment

[@SgtZima]

@@palmerstile9379 You used a 3500lb truck in a shower? How?!

[@littlehills739]

@@SgtZima tail gate down as bench silly

[@MetalFaceLoofah]

When building a Kerdi Bench, Should you install it on top of the kerdi pan? Or should I install the pan up to the Kerdi bench... this is going on to a wood subfloor.

[@MetalFaceLoofah]

@@TileCoach I appreciate it.

[@timothybolton3193]

is it pretty strong?

[@solomonbachman8718]

What is the weight bearing capacity of 2in kerdi board before maximum allowable deflection occurs?

[@Tilethoughts]

It would really depend on the span... Normally if I'm building a bench I'll do supports every 16 in. You will have zero issues using the two in that application.

[@Tilethoughts]

@@aarontuplin possibly.. but there's different densities of foam..the insulation foam is pretty weak since it's not intended for anything even semi structural. And also you would have to know what they finish the face with to know if thinset or anything else would stick to it.

[@travisk5589]

@@aarontuplin You are crazy! How would you adhere the tile?

[@jamrock97sb]

@@TileCoach yeap..not all foam are created equal.Foam is everywhere. From shower tray to bridges...

[@marcopoulin1897]

I tile all the walls and shower base then i built the bench after more work but i am sure no lick🤘

[@timchapman5553]

The saw has a ledger that flips over and supports your piece

[@kevinfarley661]

ok so nowhere can i find in your comments section anything clarifying the slope going back toward the wall rather than the top of the bench sloping toward the shower floor. I saw your level left and right across the bench it was dead on but when you placed the level from wall toward front of bench your wall end was lower than the front end. Thus the water is flowing the wrong way. what gives. Did you correct that??

[@kevinfarley661]

ok just looked at it again, Iwas backwards, but I do have another question, when you put thinset on the walls for the two upright support panels and also the front and side panels, you don't butter the wall for the top panel. Is there a reason for this omission?

[@johnandrew9934]

How do you get away with all that snow floating around in the customers garage?

[@jeffostroff]

how many teeth on the blade?

[@BlahBlahManYeah]

Looks like baseline blade that comes with saw, I believe it is 24T

[@sroberds640]

I will be using it in a shower so I don't have to drive fasteners through the concrete floor to avoid damaging boiler floor heat runs.

[@charlieconustedes9969]

I’ve used foam a couple times, not a fan just personal preference but I’m wondering, for O Tile , you have the skills to mud your showers, your employees are mud guys...why the foam?

[@keithstone4364]

I had the same thought. I think I almost shed a tear as I watched an obviously skilled artisan ( from what I've seen on some previous vids) give a tutorial on how to build a hollow styrofoam seat. I hope sleuter paid you well my friend. I give the folks at sleuter alot of credit though, they've convinced the majority of the world their products are needed , making billions along the way. I do know this about sleuter... their shit is easy to demo.

[@waltbee6333]

Please, everyone, be careful using a table saw!! I had a friend who cut 4 fingers off before he even knew what happened......and caught one of his fingers in mid air with his good hand 🖐😳

[@fencerider1492]

Yikes 🤕

[@waltbee6333]

This is a great video though. Awesome technique! I love learning this stuff. Thanks!

[@waltbee6333]

Smart Floors WOW. Yeah, it’s a great tool, but never let your guard down. Glad you’re ok, my friend. 👍🏻🖐

[@MoneyManHolmes]

Table saws scare the hell out of me. I’ll probably never own one after watching all the KZbin horror stories.

[@Rustyshackleford752]

That’s awesome

[@amariza21]

👌

[@jamrock97sb]

Dewalt really got us hook,line and sinker...

[@travisk5589]

They do have us. But overall, all tools included, dewalt is on top. Sure bosch has better roto hammers, sure makita has a better 10 compound miter, and sure hilti has better impact drills. But over all dewalt is one of the best. I will buy a dewalt impact for $110 vs $600 from hilti. I have owned makita 18v tools and Milwaukee 18v along with another brand. My dewalt stuff is clearly better. I have had multiple use my dewalt tools and go out and buy them once their current tools wore out. I hated jumping on the dewalt bandwagon. Btw, the dewalt tile saw is awesome with all its features. But it isn't heavy duty. I will probably not buy another one. But it would be nice if they beefed it up a bunch. I would pay more for it if they did.

[@jamrock97sb]

@@travisk5589 I've always own Bosh or Makita hammer drill, grinder, and laser..But I have to say dewalt tile saw got me..lol..now I have all yellow cordless tools..

[@krehbein]

Travis k I’ve gone with dewalt tools in the last couple years since I have a number of their batteries. Having a battery vacuum, small circular saw, light, etc is very convenient. Really like their smaller battery chop saw. Easy to move around and works for 95% of my cuts.

[@dwightrapp4788]

I like to build all my benches out of block or other masonry product

[@dwightrapp4788]

Your way looks alot easier and lighter. I need to sign up for classes. Good videos, excellent work.

[@dwightrapp4788]

@@TileCoach o i thought we needed class for them to guarantee/ waranty there product. Thanks again

[@Hhhhhhlllll]

How much do you slope a knee wall marble and how much do you slope your bench

[@justinofboulder]

I would be curious to hear his answer...I have always been told 1/4" per foot, but if I am installing a slab I usually am closer to 1/8" per foot....

[@Hhhhhhlllll]

@@justinofboulder i suggest 1/4 like Isaac I had a problem when i sloped a 1/8th

[@krehbein]

Dang that’s a big bench to sit on. Does anyone sit on a bench anyways?

[@justinofboulder]

Is that dense shield backer board on the walls?

[@krehbein]

Isaac Ostrom Are you going to tile right over it, or use kerdi or something like redgard? Hope you post another video showing how you finish the floor and walls.😀

[@justinofboulder]

@@TileCoach interesting! I wouldn't use it in my own home, but I have had several builders spec it....

[@Homepros888]

Is that regular sheetrock walls?

[@justinofboulder]

I was wondering the same? looks like green board or Denshield

[@krehbein]

Isaac Ostrom Makes sense, considering recent tests I would be surprised if you went the drywall/Kerdi route.

[@whocares6698]

So just those two small boards in the back for support, how much weight can it hold?

[@illokano]

Where can DIY people like me buy affordable Kerdi boards?

[@daveclark2458]

Kano if there is a floor and decor nearby,they usually have Kerdi board in stock 1/2 and 2 in

[@deenengineers7895]

I got the 1/2" one from Lowes and 2" one from Floor & Decor. Going to build the bench tonight with the 2" board

[@tileman30years6]

That's a lot easier than using block but I don't have to ever worry about a fat guy sitting on my bench either.

[@TilerHub]

tileman 30 years seems like you have never jump on top of a schluter bench.

[@MoneyManHolmes]

@Carlos Diaz how strong is it? What is 2 people wanted to, uh “sit” on the bench at the same time? No worries? I need to check out this 2 inch foam board in person some time. I’m interested, but it hasn’t really caught on in my area yet.

[@tileman30years6]

Carlos Diaz no I haven't but at the end of the day it is structural foam.

[@TilerHub]

MoneyManHolmes yes you can do whatever you want in that bench.

[@TilerHub]

tileman 30 years foam is the future. You need to test it for yourself only then you will Understand.

[@oicfas4523]

Could that actually support someone sitting on it? Looks kind of questionable from a structural standpoint to me.

[@bcbock]

Is that really how they make shower benches? That’s horrifying. No wonder they cause showers to leak.

[@vincentrepettojr.7569]

Better bench

[@toadamine]

Your table saw antics have me cringing!

[@marcusdollard7330]

I was a GC 25 years if I saw a worker use a table saw with such disregard for proper safety I would have to fire them on spot

[@marcusdollard7330]

Isaac Ostrom Not trying to be a dick. job sites can be cluttered never walk and lean over a running blade helpers often feel rushed and don’t always check for hazards. boss needs to set the example safety before speed. diy’s are Learning from you. Keep up your good work you tube didn’t exist in my day would of been a great help

[@travisk5589]

@@TileCoach Since we are handing out nanny type advice, may i suggest something. Never fart while sweating copper. The copper oxide can mix with the methane gas and cause instant blindness. I had an uncle lose his sight that way. Just worried about your safety isaac.

[@waynebogatin5140]

if you went to the workshop- you did not retain any proper install tips

[@MetalFaceLoofah]

Please Explain.

[@jonathanwarren5605]

Since when is it a good idea to set tile on styrofoam? I mean really? Use cinder blocks for gods sake.

[@grizzly8859]

No!

[@jamrock97sb]

Foam is everywhere my friend...check out any bridge construction or commercial buildings in your area..” not all foam are created equal”

[@robertaylor9218]

Schluter actually designed the product he's using for this sort of thing, and they are nuts about testing.

[@creedbarnett4948]

You make a valid point. Block will definitely do the job well, but so will the Kerdiboard. Benefits are much lighter, quicker start to finish, easier to cut, and mostly waterproofed...just needs some banding. I think material cost is the biggest negative, but when you factor your time and wear and tear on the body, I believe you come out ahead going the foam route. Thoughts?

[@salvadorfelix3107]

We did 20 bathrooms and use that for a seat

[@julieoliver8170]

There's no more craftsmanship in our industry anymore. American Construction is going downhill fast