How to build an Ottoman Bow - #2

[@oplav]

I felt great pleasure and happiness in watching this Ottoman publication, which you carefully and traditionally produced, through its production stages. Also, as a Turk, I felt very proud. I am grateful and thank you very much for keeping this tradition alive and giving us the opportunity to follow it step by step. I offer our love and respect from Turkey. The real Ottoman archer.

[@ottobigu678]

Very detailed, every day I was looking for part 2, we wait another month, good luck!

[@m.bitious]

Thanks mate. If you have any questions: just ask 😉. If everything works out fine the next part will be about shaping the bow to its final dimension. Cheers

[@ottobigu678]

Did you buy the glue or is it homemade?

[@m.bitious]

@@ottobigu678 I bought it online at a woodshop. I searched specificly for buffalo hide glue (it is more elastic than fish bladder glue - and in my climate zone hide glue takes a little longer to gel, which gives you more time to handle the gluing process. In Asia it is the other way around. Because of the heat and the moisty air the fish bladder glue takes longer to gel - thats why they prefer that one). And I guess you would need an open kitchen to cook up hide for hours because it seems to be a pretty smelly process 😉. Cheers

[@angalosaxson]

279 people saw that super video and you have only 9 Thumbs up. can`t comprehend that👍❤

[@m.bitious]

It's okay - as long as some apreciate it 😉😘

[@angalosaxson]

👍👍double like🤝

[@JafarHoseini-z5q]

سلام خسته نباشی چه چوبی برای کمان مناسبه باید چقدر باشه چوبا چه چسبی استفاده می‌شه

[@gorazdg1]

Very nice turkish bow! I made my own horn scrapper too but I made it flat to use it both for horn (water buffalo) and wood side and to achive the straight matching grooves. But i think about this round made scrapper for next project too - i have a gemsbok horn this time - inside of the horn is round and hard to make straitght

[@m.bitious]

Hey mate, thanks a lot. That's very kind. I was thinking about making it straight as well because you can use a normal saw blade to make the grooves. But due to the fact my Horns were pretty narrow I decided to go with the rounded approach. How long are your gems Horns and what kind of bow are you planning? I'm really curious 😉 All the best

[@gorazdg1]

@@m.bitious I have pretty long gemsbok horns … over 50cm usable lenght and wall is thick but inside is round (horn dismeter was around 4cm before i cut it to the halves with bandsaw) this thing is hard to make it flat as i have heard (can get cracks lenghtwise)… I think of try it to flatten it after heating it with hot oil (this method is way better as with water as i have heard) or … try it with round scrapper as you to get more from round profile horn.

[@gorazdg1]

@@m.bitious this time i would try with mongol yuan style bow …

[@m.bitious]

@@gorazdg1 hey, wow thats a great length for gems horn. I have no experience with oil. But there is this dude that makes native indian style horn bows - and he simmers the horn for a whole week on low temperature. Maybe this could be a way, too. Here's the link, have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epCtapZsm9N-g9U

[@musaadfelton3909]

This is amazing precision work. Wow. 👌 may i ask. Will wood glue be as the hide glue? Or maybe even epoxy resin? Could a person replace the hide glue with either wood glue or epoxy resin?

[@m.bitious]

To be honest, I would not recommend it because wood glue and epoxy tend to harden until they get brittle. that makes it a less ideal option for attaching the horn and as well for the sinew layers. Because the will bend, stretch and compress a lot - the glue should be flexibel as well. Nevertheless, I guess epoxy would work for the wooden core (the joints between handle and limbs) - but there's hundreds of years of try and error within this process - I would really recommend to stick with the hide and fishbladder glue. If you try your luck with epoxy, please let mi know how it turned out. All the best

[@musaadfelton3909]

@@m.bitious thank you for your priceless feedback and response. I appreciate it. I understand completely. 👍 I'm in South Africa and it's very difficult to get these materials because if I buy things like horn kinda locally it's very expensive and if I have to ship any product from over sea then Shipping costs are very expensive. So I was looking for alternatives wih the glue. But I will see how things work out. For now I will not be making such a master crafted bow lol😁😂 not yet. For now I'm going to try and make a bow with natural and modern day material combined and see how it turns out.

[@m.bitious]

@@musaadfelton3909 hey, that sounds great. no matter the materials. crafting bows is an absolute beautiful hobby. I understand the problem with the shipping costs. I guess it doesn't have to be water buffalo. horn from a goat, a sprinbok or an antilope might work as well. maybe there's a less costly option for you. and you can make hideglue by yourself. I guess it's kind of a messy process but it's an option if you don't have a purchase option. this guy does it, for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIrcZqeDhNV7gK8 ... or this guy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6bGnqeEpLCWnck cheers, my friend

[@musaadfelton3909]

@@m.bitious Thanks for sharing these video links. Appreciate it. Man I just think that there is a different experience to archery when you craft your own equipment. You really become one with your bow. You respect it more. You are able to feel through your own limbs the strengths and weaknesses in the bow limbs. It's just amazing. It makes you a better archer because it makes you whole, understanding every process of making the bow and then transferring that into using the bow.

[@m.bitious]

@@musaadfelton3909 couldn't have said it better, you are perfectly right. and it teaches you patience because one false cut, scrape or draw and weeks of hard work are just destroyed 🤣... I had to learn that the hard way. Cheers

[@ottobigu678]

2 more weeks until the 3rd part comes out, 🤞

[@m.bitious]

Hmmm ... in 10 days I will unwrap it. After that I can start filming Part 3. So it might take a little longer than two weeks. But it will come 😀

[@mdiskandar6789]

Where to get those knife tool?

[@m.bitious]

I ordered a convex and a concave scraper from the same manufacturer (in my case Cherry) and I filed the teeth in manually. Because I didn't find any to buy. Or did you mean an other Tool? Cheers

[@КириллМакаров-ф7ц]

А чей это рог подскажи пожалуйста, я сам тоже турецкий лук делаю только рога не могу достать, они очень дорогие. Может подскажеш где можно достать их?

[@m.bitious]

These are water buffalo Horns. I found them online in a Barber Shop. You'll need 2 of them (the price is only for 1 in the following link) because you can only use the outside. I ordered them here - hope that helps: www.rasur-online.de/shop/artikel.php?artikelNr=1165&HK_ID=109

[@КириллМакаров-ф7ц]

@@m.bitious 😄

[@m.bitious]

@@КириллМакаров-ф7ц this Shop sells horn stripes as well. Could be a good way if you don't want to grind down the whole horn. I wanted to try it from scratch, thats why I worked with the original Horns. And please: don't use cow Horns. They are not strong enough. It has to be water buffalo. 😉

[@КириллМакаров-ф7ц]

Супер 👍👍👍

[@m.bitious]

Спасибо, дорогой!