How to Buy a Vintage Omega Constellation

[@davidmoynahan8473]

Ignore that guy, if you want to call it "Wintage." do it. You're English is excellent and your accent is cool as hell!

[@CasebackWatches]

I really like to learn languages so for me it's ok when people correct me in a nice manner. But i think my accent will stay, no matter how hard i train :-D

[@davidmoynahan8473]

@@CasebackWatches I understand that, I was politely helped with my terrible German all this summer when in Bavaria and Austria. Bought a 60's Paul Garnier Minu Stop, made by Stowa when I was in Salzburg. Great german watch!

[@springthyme501]

Just a note. Regarding the Constellations the calibre you want to look for is the 564. The 564 is the chronometer certified movement and thus will be in all of the constellations. Not the 565.

[@eli4885]

^^

[@davidbaker1941]

This is the classiest guy I have ever seen in my life. Say Wintage all you want.

[@kevinmartin6444]

I like how he handled that

[@1999zrx1100]

You are so fortunate to have a watch your Grandfather and Dad wore and loved, my Dad had an Omega but some how it went missing with his frequent visits to the hospital later in live. I sure wish I had it. 🙏

[@Tal-wb9jn]

I watch you... because you say “wintage” never stop! The texture of your voice and accent is compelling!

[@niveusgaius]

I second the vote for wintage vs vintage. Your accent is part of the charm of your videos. Please keep up the fine work, and play the guitar for us again soon. All the best.

[@boxfordchief]

No hyping, just straight talk regarding the Omega Constellation watch. Most informative presentation,

[@tigerlilly9038]

The "wear" of the watch from your grandfather makes it magnificent to me. The 10 o'clock scratch is like artists markings for me, enhances.

[@bruceblackerby3742]

Nice video. I purchased a used black dial Constellation last year for next to nothing. Sent it in to Omega for full service. Second watch I've had them fix. Just got it back. It looks amazing for a 60 year old watch. To think that Rolex doesn't offer such a service. The reason I will never buy a Rolex.

[@stefanienewman44]

We're big fans of your videos...my husband doesn't even wear a watch and always watches your videos. Really like this focus on individual brands. Glittering is a word...or glittery is the adjective

[@jharris947]

Nice video......I have a lovely 1967 Constellation 168.010 with a caliber 564 movement. 😎

[@Digital_daze_]

Haha, I was just given the same as the day/date constellation you showed towards the end, but gold capped, it was given to my grandfather in Egypt in the late 60s, passed to my father, now to me. I love it. I understand your view on the day, I like the day feature. I’m biased though👽. However, the omega is at the bottom, and constellation is at the top. No star. Has the observatory on back.

[@mrg1911]

Remember....if someone asks you if you speak High or Low German..... Simply tell them “There are no Low Germans”! Keep up the great work, Tim! I look forward to your videos.....

[@ianjones739]

I love 168.005, that looks like a very beautiful watch!

[@paulnyul1898]

wonderful great video - I'm falling in love with these classic classy little "works of art" paul from Sydney Australia

[@CasebackWatches]

Thanks for watching, Paul! One of my oldest videos and so I'm very happy that people still enjoy it and the Constellation.

[@Chipchase780]

I find my 1970 c shape constellation (564 caliber auto) the most comfortable watch to wear due to its modest proportions, and it being as light as a feather. I think many modern watches look a joke with their ‘alarm clock on a strap’ size, something Micky Mouse would wear. Vintage omega, particularly the post 1964 C shape, are so understated in appearance yet house one of the most beautiful, tough, and efficient Swiss movements ever produced.

[@lg169]

I think the C-shapes are the most beautiful Constellations. After that most of them are really ugly, even douchebagy in some cases.

[@hrt3418]

I have an Omega Constellation Chronometer that I bought new in 1958 with the original box and my copy of the "Certificate of High Precision". I would like to research using the serial number but don't know the link for that. I am wearing the watch right now. At the Brussels Worlds Fair in 1958, I compared my time on it with a Russian exhibit atomic clock. They were 3 minutes off. My watch agreed with the Swiss atomic clock shortly before that.

[@jharris947]

All you have to do is join the Omega Forum and post your question/request and they will help you out. Really great forum with members who have an amazing knowledge of all things Omega.

[@1cachilupi]

Great video and thanks for the information. Now im on the search for my first constellation.

[@paultierney3738]

Hi Tim I wonder if you can help yes i have 2 Constellations including a Pie Pan However i have a Seamaster 2922 which i believe is rare it has straight hands and normal crown is this a frankenwatch it has a 503 movement your videos was the inspiration to buy Omegas i have quite a collection now Thanks

[@jwaller2557]

Very helpful! Thanks........Really do love the Constellation watch

[@msbrownbeast]

I have a piepan Constellation (with gold-capping) with the 551 movement. I have the original octagonal crown, but the gold has completely worn off, shopwing it's underlying dull base metal. It it feasible to try to get it replated, or simpler to buy a used one off Ebay?

[@liudizzle]

I inherited one of these in 18k yellow gold today which belonged to my dad, its absolutely stunning!

[@CasebackWatches]

Lucky you! Great watch!

[@neil4701]

(Pedant alert!) - of course when recommending the movement, you meant 564 rather than 565. The 564 is the chronometer version of the 565 and all Constellations are chronometers.

[@LesterLovesWatches]

Bizarre, just literally 2 hours ago I pulled the trigger on a 1971 Constellation. But.......... it’s an f300. 😱😱. But the bracelet 😍

[@nicobos7404]

Good job Tim, quite comprehensive, and thanks for acknowledging use of some of my photos.

[@CasebackWatches]

I have to thank you. Great images.

[@runcoweezrun8143]

Survival of an Old(vintage) Omega Constellation Today = Mata Hari still Entertaining today, in 2023 😁

[@jeanducheamps7697]

Very good presentation, great info and an easy watch! Subscribed. Excellent,discovery, this channel. Keep up the great work

[@CasebackWatches]

Thank you very much. Minutes after your comment the subscriber counter reached exactly 25.000. So thanks again, probably it was you! :-)

[@jeanducheamps7697]

@@CasebackWatches hahaha well deserved! I wish you fun and succes so the counter may grow exponentially! Keep up the great work!

[@jaime4022]

What a great video! Thank you so much for taking the time!

[@celestialfix]

Hey, anything goes in English.....as they say, the only rule in English is that there are no rules, lol. As an American, it's funny to me how Germans will critique other German's German, lol. I think the unofficial motto of Baden-Wurttemberg is "we can do anything except speak standard German." Great channel.

[@HHIto]

I like the Constellation; I would buy a new one with an 8800 co-axial movement.

[@okiedokie4663]

Very nice done!! Personally i prefere the steel 60-er, but the golden ones have something

[@benny60113]

Great video (wideo?). Now I want a constellation.

[@Xxiluv2snip3xX]

About how much would a vintage omega constellation be worth? How much did you pay for each one?

[@inglebybhoy3293]

Thank you for your advice. Very interesting videos. Please, keep making them.

[@desmosnob]

Thank you for a great video! I am looking for a -66 to -68 Constellation (c-shape) in gold double with a linen dial . What would be an acceptable price if it is with all the original parts except the wrist band and in good condition? When looking around, the prices asked are really wide spread so it is hard understanding the market value.

[@CasebackWatches]

Tough question, because there are so few pieces our there and in result no real market. My guess is: Aound 1000 Euro from a professional dealer but it really depends on the condition.

[@desmosnob]

Caseback Watches thank you, I understand. At least this gives me a rough estimate of what to expect. 👍🏻

[@benjiebarker]

i got the 168.009 18k yellow gold...shipping soon

[@m.p.2482]

He looks like Val Kilmer in The Saint movie. Especially when The Saint disguised himself wearing spectacles. BTW, I have the Constellation Calendar 2943 ref.

[@CasebackWatches]

I've heard this several times now. Maybe i should watch the movie!

[@kennethbleyer1980]

Nice job. Thank you.

[@Ossory88]

What about the most recent globemaster?

[@dd-dd2co]

How much do you think a new old stock C-case Constellation 18k Gold / cal. 1021 / Year 1972 is worth?

[@florianhess]

Great video, good quality, well researched and presented. I am currently on a Genta high, so just the right timing :)

[@sepp540]

🎉thanx for the video!! Fantastic!!

[@CasebackWatches]

Thanks for watching!

[@eusupporter8438]

Interesting and informative but...now I urgently want one 😐 😏 😄😄😄

[@inglebybhoy3293]

Sir, you get a thumbs up, just for being an EU supporter.

[@Rajazraj1992]

Could we one day see your entire collection I believe it shall be very interesting!

[@CasebackWatches]

Yes, this could be arranged one day.

[@jackpurcell274]

I so look forward to your videos, your English is fine. You should hear my Spanish no one knows what I'm talking about. I know 2 German words. Don't worry about trolls. My main problem with you is after every video I want another watch. I'm still searching that Zenith you showed previously. I love those Genta designs. I need a job, retirement is no good for watch collecting. Good health and happy collecting.

[@bonhzeppelin9882]

A lawyer knowingly with a stolen watch.. perfectly fitting indeed. ;-))

[@christianmuller2031]

How much you would pay for a Constellation in good condition ?

[@kylestewart4444]

I personally enjoy when you say things like “wintage”.

[@Kurio71]

Ja

[@bart7695]

Hi Tim, I've always understood that Genta redesigned the Constellation starting with the doglegged lugs and the Onyx inlayed indices on the dial. So the floral indices should be pre-Genta. Am I wrong (very probable) or just a knowitall (highly probable)? I think the onyx indices make the Constellation a more contemporal design, less dated. Lovely combination of movement and design, as is Genta's earlier Universal Geneve Polerouter with the microrotor. They make a nice two-watch collection; affordable, early Genta and iconic movement. By the way, the later Constellations always made me think of the Japanese design-language created by Tanaka for Seiko, maybe that's your connection with the seiko 5. Keep it up!

[@CasebackWatches]

Thanks for the comment. A Polrerouter is on my list, but sometimes the prices for them are just crazy.

[@bart7695]

Did I hear you mention Royal Oak? Can't wait for the polerouter video :)

[@lethanielsimpson641]

Great video! Do the Seamaster line!

[@sp3ctra213]

I got a Vintage Constellation (looking like the model at 6:08 (1962) - but in silver) from my Grandfather and wanted to ask what prices i can expect, when i want to change out the crystal/plexi from this old watch. There is no need for a complete restoration, because it is in a really good shape. Only the glass is kinda scratched. I am not really a big watch collector and this is actually my first "more expensive" watch. Anyone here who can help me out?

[@CasebackWatches]

Depends on your location. In Germany it cost between 30 and 50 Euro. Generally spoken it's a rather simple and affordable fix.

[@mywatchventure8875]

Excellent .

[@xxxocampo7215]

What is the acceptable accuracy for such a vintage watch like 168027?

[@CasebackWatches]

Depends on the condition. Serviced it should run like a modern watch.

[@xxxocampo7215]

@@CasebackWatches Okay. Cos I seldomly use the watch, Im thinking if it has somthing to do with accuracy? Mine is like a minute or two behind a day, though I did not actually put it in the timegrapher, just sychronized it from the time on my phone. Sorry newbie question.

[@CasebackWatches]

@@xxxocampo7215 No problem. Bring it to the watchmaker to regulate it. He can also measure the amplitude to find out if the piece needs a service too.

[@xxxocampo7215]

@@CasebackWatches Okay thank you! Last question, Every when do we need to service a vintage watch as old as this?

[@CasebackWatches]

@@xxxocampo7215 When it shows serious malfunctions and when the amplitude is very low. Because then it may stop soon.

[@joseeduardohernandez8833]

What do you think of cal. 751?

[@mro-oj6hp]

Love your videos! Keep them coming.

[@MartinIrwin]

Where are you in Germany? Would love to meet up for a coffee and chat when lockdown permits.

[@CasebackWatches]

I live in Hamburg. They've just announced that lockdown could last until Easter :-(

[@crappyluxurypdx]

Excellent video.

[@jingnanzhao2443]

Seamaster de ville and Constellation, which one to go?

[@CasebackWatches]

Both are great watches. Very hard decision!

[@matthiasplas]

Nice and informative ! Keep up the good work 👍

[@farzanaafroz8860]

Hi Tim, where May I find the 18k white gold omega Speedmaster Apollo 11, 1980 or 18k yellow gold omega Speedmaster Apollo 11, 1969? I am searching it for quite some time but I can’t find a good one,mean you guide me on this? Where May I find and how much it might cost?

[@CasebackWatches]

Sorry, i don't know a good source either.

[@AM-cz4uu]

Please put prices so we would know what are you talking about is it a foldable to some people or not prices is very important please add prices to your report thank you

[@CasebackWatches]

Hi there! I understand your request, but unfortunately its impossible because time moves on. That's a rather old video. About four years ago I bought several Constellations and Genèves under 400 Euros. The Genèves often under 300. Now we have an entirely different situation, they are way more expensive. Imagine the case I had stated these 400/220 in the video. Everybody would be upset now because those prices are not longer valid. But thanks for the input.

[@danthewatchman1448]

Any thoughts on the 712 movement? And were they only made for Japan (that’s where most are from on eBay)?

[@CasebackWatches]

I don't know if there were only for Japan, but i find the power reserve very low for an omega movement of this period. 42hours. And most vintage watches loose some hours over the years, so maybe the pieces today run only around 35 hours or so (without fresh service of course).

[@dogsonline222]

what does the little star under the word "constellation" indicate? ive looked all over and i cant find its meaning... thanks

[@CasebackWatches]

I think it's a symbol, connected to the observatory on the back. Which is connected to the stars as a precise measurement of time.

[@oscargustavoarcosruiz8793]

No patina for you? :-O Theo and Harris is going to hate you. My preferences are between the GG Pie Pan and the C form, both in steel (maybe the C with a visel of white gold) and considering the prices that the Pie Pan are reaching today I think I'll go for the C form , or for a 70's TV square, very funky.

[@johnpinner1]

3 constellation here and 7 Seamasters

[@canonyeo4286]

The Omega De Ville Tressor is an example of a fine watch. For a connoisseur, A CENTRE THREE HANDS manual winding mechanism is the best of watches, with long minute hand, and an even longer second hand. Usually in Patek or Lange, we only see two hands or sub second hand manual winding watches. They reserved the CTH for their finest pieces. All good watch makers must have this caliber in their stable to be considered good. This kind of watch is very rare in the Swiss industry. Try find one in a Rolex and see what you get? But, strange, the Japanese made this kind of watches long ago, and, it seems like only Gerald Donovan who is aware of it. They even do it in 36000 bph. Very high class, but, you pay less than this Constellation.

[@jaime4022]

My problem with the Tresor is the hideous hands similar to what you would find on a cheap (albeit excellent in quality) orient Bambino. These hands are unbecoming of such a wonderful watch.

[@silverstone3228]

I have a wintage gibson les paul artisan 😎

[@yosuke19841]

When I obtained my first bumper watch I did not know the mechanism. I though it was broken when I shook it. By the way, it was a JLC powermatic cal. 481. Another great affordable bumper.

[@andrebudiman4506]

Can you change your red background

[@neil4701]

I like the red background. I watch stuff like this late at night and red is a good colour temperature for winding down and relaxing, like a real fire. Doesn't degrade you melatonin!

[@jorgeedwincarrillo8098]

saludos desde Colombia con un omega constellation 18327244 mov.561

[@fmc6338]

I am German and have trouble with v sound when speaking English.

[@florianhess]

For me it's the 'th'.

[@johnf4659]

Do you have a Channel where you speak only German? I'm trying to learn German and need to find some good German speaking vloggers i can follow. Thanks

[@CasebackWatches]

Unfortunately not. But maybe movies with subtitles would help? I've learnt a lot with Netflix shows like Mad Men and Boardwalk Empire together with german and then english subtitles.

[@johnf4659]

I will check it out. Thanks.

[@cretan911]

Hahahahaha, my mom says Wintage as well.

[@vincentmcdonnell7986]

Ok 😮

[@ani7700]

Um Lol who is lecturing you how to pronounce "vintage"? That's so silly of them--it's your accent.

[@McElhinney65]

Wintage is fine, just don't start talking about your farter. ;-)

[@jjp6975]

Merci ! J'adore Désolé, j'ai commencé Omega avec 2 quartz (2021 et 1985), mais j'ai tres envie de poursuivre avec ces modèles de 1950/60; Jacques youtube: "une vie musicien"