After watching many ADC guides, someone recomended me Tonirel's channel. I stumbled upon this video, watched it once or twice, started winning, i was like okay this actually works. Watched the video over 20 times now and i climbed a full rank in the matter of 20 games. I'm still re-watching the video almost every day to remind myself of these habits. Genuinely, 100% guaranteed the BEST ADC guide you will ever come across.
@Tonirel5 ай бұрын
Honestly, thank you so much, I really appreciate it!! There's more guides to come, I'm working on them this week!
@JonathanAlliali-Die-go5gl2 ай бұрын
check out professor DDang for more advanced things
@EyeballBB6 ай бұрын
ive watched countless adc guides just trying to figure out what i do wrong and genuinely this was the first guide that has genuinely helped me understand my shortcomings and i truly appreciate it
@Tonirel6 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that, now go get that LP!!
@lizardltd8 ай бұрын
One of the best video's I've seen about the ADC roles. Thank you so much!!!
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
I'm glad it helped you!!
@itorres0087 ай бұрын
Good one! Often other people in videos say do "this" without much of an explanation why.
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
I agree, there must be a reason behind every decision!
@mouhiazeck8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I feel like I've gotten more practical information in 30 minutes than I have in all the time I've played league, especially since I main Jinx as well :D
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@iracingtf5051Ай бұрын
@jaxthejaximus6296 He said that the match up matters. Vs draven + nauti you do not want to force lvl 2 fight, even if u get it first as jinx.
@geekedghostgaming81567 ай бұрын
This has been the most informative video on the ADC role. Thank you so much!
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
You're so welcome!
@geburu4 ай бұрын
Seriously unbelievable content. The way you explain the concepts in a straightforward manner and then address how hard it is to learn and how to approach it is top notch. ADC looks so different to me now. Thank you!
@Tonirel4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@itsm1ha10411 күн бұрын
After watching this i have been seeing way more progress in the role. What also helped was not tilting on a loss but accepting it as natural and moving on, focusing on inprovement
@BenKLode9 ай бұрын
Awesome video! As a primarily support player I recently picked up botlane with Sivir, this helps me put a lot of things into perspective. Really informative and thorough, can't wait to see more!
@Tonirel9 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@thalesvondasosАй бұрын
If only my teammates also watched this guide...
@fastfoodfrase68788 ай бұрын
This video is so gold. Sadly i usually cant focus hard enough and forget half of the information i just learned
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
no worries, just take it one step at a time
@mby72939 күн бұрын
Your explaining is so easy to understand, ill be your student from now on
@TKVermilion7 ай бұрын
Explanation and examples are very straightforward and clean. I hope to see more solo queue centric guides for adc. + points for non click baity title. Really good content thank you! ^_^
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
My upcoming video will be another guide, stay tuned!!!
@gkaskavelis8 ай бұрын
One of the best videos for s14 if you want to pick bot role
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words! :D
@question24789 ай бұрын
Nice guide! Could you maybe do a segment or another video on wave management?
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
I'll write this down!
@blairwest59625 ай бұрын
Just found your videos bro. I love the breakdown of the different phases of the games. Ty so much for sharing.
@Tonirel5 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! :D
@bbrill98866 ай бұрын
you make more sense and speak better english than the majority of people that are first language speakers. . I feel that comes from not being so comfortable with language that you fill it with ego words well that and knowledge . Good info. Returning player but honestly just doing some arts and crafts seeing who is making content for this game still. TY gj
@Tonirel6 ай бұрын
I've been studying english in school and college, and I even took extra classes outside of school for vocabulary and grammar, I like the language a lot and it's very useful to me as well, so it was a pleasure studying it! I appreciate the kind words :D
@schnoepsy15309 ай бұрын
Great Video, Love your content!
@Tonirel9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate it!!
@mschini57308 ай бұрын
@schnoepsy1530 Kaisa abuser
@nicholasfigueiredo31717 ай бұрын
I have a simply algorithm to decide witch secondary spell I go. I go exhaust against Trist, always. Heal against lucian/draven if I wanna fight lane depends on the sup matchups too. Cleanse If I really need and can't pick quicksilver. I go ghost now with champ specific exceptions now. Exaust if I am playing kaisa since it enables several new play because of ult, like if you hit W you can literally go in a solo laner and win the fight with exhaust. Ezreal/caitlyn you go TP for tempo. Since ghost is not good in them. Jhin you go heal since neither tp nor ghost are good and if you need to use exhaust you are prob dead already
@diogovlimaАй бұрын
Great guide!! Kudos for you!
@TonirelАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@LeppiTV4 ай бұрын
After watching ur video u made me want to main jinx
@Tonirel4 ай бұрын
Go for it, you won't regret it!
@Fixenet59 ай бұрын
great video, sums up all your teachings :)
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
Toni-sensei used his powers to enlighten thy self once again!
@underdog37846 ай бұрын
This was awesome and so simple to understand
@EzequielCastillo9 ай бұрын
Great stuff!!
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
Thank You!!
@yonkito18 ай бұрын
U are awesome man thank u for all the vids. They are so useful!
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@lekos66619 ай бұрын
Very informative GJ !
@Tonirel9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it useful!
@jeffreyliu45312 ай бұрын
thanks, Learned a lot
@Tonirel2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@RagingVanitasАй бұрын
Hi, when you talked about mid game and said that adc should go mid for farming and doing this little turn-based game, you said that you would talk about mid that dont want to swap later but you didnt mention it anymore. Can I ask you what an ADC should do if Mid is occupied? Thanks! 😊
@TonirelАй бұрын
get side wave quickly, then rotate mid and hover your midlaner, that's basically all you can do
@HopeArk2 ай бұрын
A bit old but still very relevant, was wondering if you had some tips vs mage supports like zyra/lux. Currently that's what I have the bigger issue with if my support isnt that good because something like zyra pushes very hard and has a lot of dmg while lux has a lot of range and near garunteed poke (since I play Kaisa, lux e is nearly undodgable if she double taps it on top of me unless I use e or bait it)
@Tonirel2 ай бұрын
preserve hp at all costs, then wait for team to help you, is what usually should happen
@HopeArk2 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel If team ignore botlane is there anything I should do differently or just preserve and try to farm as much as I can without losing hp (was vs zyra MF)
@BrontideHD9 ай бұрын
at the start of the lane phase and you wait to see if they are trying to cheese from bush, its still worth to sit back even if you lose xp right? or would you still be in xp range for the first 3 melee minions? 🤔 thanks for the video :)
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
try being in XP range if possible, but if not, losing the XP is better than getting caught!
@Kodiah-8 ай бұрын
I started playing adc because que times are super short. So I brought my swain to bot lane with pretty good success but iv been trying to find a 2nd champ that traditionally fits the role. Hasn't been going to well since a lot of times I would rather just play swain but I also want to learn the role itself. So I'm wondering if my untraditional pick would hurt me learning the role.
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
I'd say Swain is more forgiving that playing an actual adc, but he is also shorter range so he plays differently. Whenever you'll switch to a normal adc, you'll die in situations where playing Swain made the difference, adc champs are high risk high reward basically
@dxrkoz6 күн бұрын
My problem is that, when I saw a lost fight and just push to get turret + farm + pressure to bring 1 or 2 enemies on me, my team rather FF than play... I can be 14/0/7 and legit 1v2 or 1v3, my team wont let me carry them... I never trashtalk them, try to encourage them but its no use, they just want to go next :/
@sidneyw.mathiasdeoliveira86217 ай бұрын
Side question: what's the recording software you used? I've been looking for one just like this but it've been though to find. Also really good content, props on your work
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
I'm using OBS Studio
@psychoo82307 ай бұрын
I go rat, Q and ward enemy blue/red-raptor if possible👌
@anas43948 ай бұрын
I always do the right decisions as you mentioned but i lose cuz my team do bad team fights 😮💨
@siemaneczko63267 ай бұрын
Xd not even best players always do the right decisions and you aren't probably even chalanger and saying this. You are at your elo because you play the same as players in your elo stop flaming athers and focus on yourself.
@Frizzy94Ай бұрын
What is your keybinds noticed u hit sidebutton and scroll on mouse allot
@TonirelАй бұрын
I have a video on my setting and another one on how I move my camera, they should be in my "Important Educational Videos" playlist
@revolver934511 күн бұрын
in conclusion, duo or play solo lane/jungle. noted.
@tomber086 ай бұрын
Did I just find the Coach Curtis / Shok of ADC?
@user-vf4uj9 ай бұрын
i love this soo much. can we have another macro video where you play from behind and win game?
@Tonirel9 ай бұрын
Yes!! The video will come in 2 days from now!
@user-vf4uj9 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel yessss because its so hard to do something mid game when whole team wants to give up
@tomber086 ай бұрын
Is for exhaust and the short range my Lucian ADC a good exception?
@Tonirel5 ай бұрын
It could work, summoner spells are also personal preference, so take it if you need it
@Suhdude12347 ай бұрын
Good video but can’t leash not season 2
@ddg-norysq14647 ай бұрын
Do you have any tips on how to handle when your support just starts running it?
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
I'm now working on a video about being weakside, and playing without a support, hopefully it will answer your questions!
@ddg-norysq14647 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel thank you, in my last 10 games I have always tried to follow what you said and my lane opponent still goes 10/0
@UnholyDVP6 ай бұрын
30 min and only one thing. Pray (stick) and pray(stick).
@RegineRatt8 ай бұрын
useful stuff 👍
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@incognitocappucino19722 ай бұрын
What do you do if the enemy bot lane never shows ever and they just sit in the bush getting exp while you sit under tower waiting until they show? Why wait until they show if they can just do that and gain exp while u gain none?
@Tonirel2 ай бұрын
you can stay max XP range and be safe and the enemies will always leave the bush to grab the first 3 melee minions (unless they're crazy)
@yuutsu72017 ай бұрын
does low elo count diamond 2-4? how might these ideas change from emerald and higher?
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
the higher elo you go, the less risks you can take, one mistake and they could completely stomp you, but pretty much all of these ideas apply, plus we add some new ones like how to prevent 4 man dives for example
@yuutsu72017 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel Thanks for your advice!
@Tkt_t6 ай бұрын
what if im samira ? is it good to prioritize the dragon fight and leave the mid wave, contest the baron 4v5 after senna died ? or do i just play like jinx ?
@Tonirel6 ай бұрын
generally speaking, taking a 4v5 is not great, but ofc there are exceptions so feel free to experiment and see what you can do
@Tkt_t6 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel thank u
@Vis-MaatjePuntNL3 ай бұрын
What if they keep pushing you under turret and they can just auto for free the turret?
@Tonirel3 ай бұрын
try keeping your HP high and focus on farming. if you have to give the caster minions so you don't take poke, do it!
@Vis-MaatjePuntNL3 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel Im struggling as Jinx in lower elo (silver 5, yesterday promoted), especially with my positioning. One wrong step and I am dead. And I need to adapt my mind that I should fight from front till back. Thank you for your video's.
@treato.374129 күн бұрын
bro's literally playing against one of the best dravens.
@ixnbtw62747 ай бұрын
What am I supposed to do when I destroyed t1 turrert and my mid does not want to switch + my support is going mid and stays there?
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
Shove bot then go mid and hover around. If a fight happens it will be a 5v4 because an enemy has to go bot and catch the wave you just got, you will lose minions overall, but it wins you the game!
@ixnbtw62747 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel Thanks for the answer. The other guy advised me to go bot again after hovering mid for a bit. Would you do the same
@PiegoIlTempo7 ай бұрын
Honestly, I really don't know what to do, I only keep getting garbage supports, that manage to not land a single ability for the first 10 minutes of the game, that destroy your waves, overpush, break freezes, straight up int and flame you. And then they keep forcing fights when you're already at a disadvantage, poke supports that do not poke at all... my jungler is nowere to be seen or ganks and insta dies, the enemy jungler perma camping me if I push, or perma diving me. Vision doesn't exist besides my wards which sadly don't last forever. Everybody knows and backs off before I hit lvl 2 first, everybody besides my support. They have a shaco? A Zed? You're automatically dead, they would gladly suicide to oneshot and remove you from any fight. They have an AP malphite? Good luck, he'll hold ult to zone you out of the fight, if you go in you explode gg. And let's not talk about the all that fun shit that gets out of toplane, with perma slows mach10 movespeed and oneshots too, while you have 0/10 teemo top. They have lb, tf or nocturne? You're automatically dead no matter where you're. They have a Karthus with first strike? You either win in 20 minutes or lose the game, since full build only the ult does 1.6k on me with Maw and Wit's thanks to fucking shadowflame and cryptoshit. We want to talk about Briar? If she gets somehow on top of you there is no fucking disengage, you can litterally use everything you have and she will catch you, you can try to kill her if you're fed enough, and I'm not talking about her Ult which is pretty predictable and dodgeable, just her W. Your team won't peel you ever they'll just ignore the guy flanking and assassinating you and go suicide into the enemy team. Pinging achieves nothing, writing in chat only gets you flamed, giving tips to your support either makes him tilt or he just ignores it. Also I get the fucking useless afk bot Yuumi into Draven Nami and get perma dived by Shaco jng, while my Talon gets solokilled 6 times by enemy Ekko and ragequits, my Kayn thinks he is a farming jungler, my toplane wins but whatever he just get two tapped as well. This. Every. Game I play as adc. I play jungle and I have 80% wr, adc 48%, in Silver EUW, last season I was Plat only playing jungle and I could have climbed more but the role gives me cancer, this season I wanted to play adc and here I am with a whole new level of cancer. My sup makes or breaks the lane, if I have human supports I stomp and quadra even when the enemies aram gank bot ez win, granted that my mid/top is not 0/10 into lb, tf or other bullshit. I'm not even mad for shit like Rengar or Fiddlesticks because you can outplay or pay attention to them, they're a treat you can play around. But shit like AD Shaco that litterally you don't see him until your screen is gray with no anticipation whatsoever. And since you can ping wards when you see someone place them they'll often play around your vision to avoid it anyway. This role really does feel miserable.
@Tonirel7 ай бұрын
This is how the role works, glass cannon! It's definitely not for everyone 😅
@PiegoIlTempo7 ай бұрын
@@Tonirel I get it, I dodge everything dodgeable, I try to position correctly, but I mostly play immobile adc besides Zeri, but if I don't have flash or ghost there are fights where I'm just unable to join because the moment I do I'm insta dead, and that's fine, in those cases I just try to get something else on the map away from the treat. What really breaks my mental are the coinflip supports, I legit prefer playing botlane alone 1v2. In one game I had a Shaco support with smite which was playing off meta double jungle and was never in lane, into Varus Lux, and I won hard the lane abusing the xp advantage. But in lanes like Jinx, Draven or Tristana, if my support suicides the lane is simply over and I can't play, I honestly wish I had a good sup duo that would make it much easier
@svihl6667 ай бұрын
5:31 / 29:12
@felixantonioblancodepedro59814 ай бұрын
And what can you do when your supp start trolling min 2 forcing you to play 1v2, see how you're not getting salty and just try to cs and scale he proceed to steal your cs, fck your freezes and then your jungler decides to rundown and start chasing you stealing even more cs from you leaving you like 100 cs behind with no items when enemy adc has 3 and every one oneshots you cause youre alone all time and with no items :D eh and saying not a single word dying inside telling to yourself why the heck am i still playing this rol
@coolbrotherf1274 ай бұрын
In a situation like that, you hope your top laner gets 20 kills by himself and carries the game. Some situations you can't fix by just playing better. Just accept the loss and move onto the next game. There's no point being tilted and flaming over one loss.
@felixantonioblancodepedro59814 ай бұрын
@@coolbrotherf127 i never flame, it only cause the troll to even troll more, if you dont flame you have the chance or comebacking and the troll to stop trolling and start trying but... every game i go adc happens the same thats why i switched to my main rol jung again cause i can even carry alone dont giving a f the trolls :D
@HoneyBanev8 ай бұрын
half of these are actually used even in silver tbh, more advanced "siple things" would do
@warwickthekingmaker72818 ай бұрын
being 5v4 doesn't guarantee a win, and mechanics do matter. if the enemy team has a malphite and I don't have the mechanics to flash his R, I'm going to get ulted and killed for free and then it's a 4v4 that could go any way. I've seen so many situations where I call to go in because we are 5v3 and then we just lose. I had to zhonyas Yone R (as Viktor) and then got oneshot when it ended and then watched everyone on my team die
@Tonirel8 ай бұрын
you're talking about specific cases, 95% of the time you win 5v4 no matter what!
@mannermichaels66095 ай бұрын
Get good scrub
@imTw1stedx4 ай бұрын
i like how in every example senna gets caught HAHA, bro knows what hes talking abt just off this
@burgerure10363 ай бұрын
So what to do if mid doesnt want to swap?
@Tonirel3 ай бұрын
catch side wave then go back mid and fight 5v4 while an enemy catches the side wave