How to Choose Arrows for a Compound Bow | The Sticks Outfitter | EP. 34

[@jean9910]

This is probably the best archery channel on KZbin. Great video

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks Jean! Appreciate your support and words of encouragement..

[@CBtreemonkey]

yea i agree. Dudes are straight to the point and entertaining at the same time. They also cover the more detailed information that most channels dont. Thanks for the info.

[@DanielKje]

Ashton Kutcher and his slightly intoxicated friend😂

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And a little bit of Seth Rogen..

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Colt and Rooster

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[@KingdomBuilders_Podcast]

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[@kalumeet1]

spine is related to the grade of flexing. A spine of 500 means the flex is a 0.5 inch. the lower the spine the stiffer the shaft.

[@doughboy5840]

Ralf Johann can I safely shoot a 500 spine at 70 lbs draw weight?

[@johnhunter2524]

@@doughboy5840 not a huge safety thing, more accuracy and consistency. You should be around 300 spine to 250 depending on brand. A 500 spine arrow whips more through the air so there's more chance to shatter it.

[@HeavilyConnected]

A lot of people think 500 spine is the strong ones and 200 is weaker but a 200 spine arrow IS in fact for 70-80 pound setups with long draw.

[@wilmafistfit8891]

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[@silvermediastudio]

Step one: get bow & arrow Step two: sit in the woods Congrats you're bow hunting!!

[@30Cal-Cam]

@@silvermediastudio no practice required?

[@Nick_The_Trick]

Great video guys. Just got into archery seriously this season, and I have a lot to learn

[@StickJockeyFPV]

Great job, guys!! Your video is easy to understand, to the point, and you guys make it very fun

[@TheSticksBrand]

Awesome glad you liked it thanks!

[@andyjame6835]

Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine kzbin.infoUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.

[@daviddingle5534]

Hi guys .thanks for your videos .only just got into bows.bought a pse omen compound bow with no knowledge of bows at all .just lucky the bow suits me .now have a lot to learn.thanks again

[@TheSticksBrand]

No problem, thanks for watching & congrats on the purchase! For more great tips, check out our 10 other BOW videos in this playlist >> kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJi4g3iMib1rhtk

[@codyhall5370]

Very informative but a touch of humor with it, made it a lot easier to learn. Lol thanks guys!

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks glad you appreciate it!!

[@a.wheeler7731]

Important to note that higher spine number means its thinner and not as stiff. Most arrow manufactures also have spine selection charts.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Absolutely, thanks for mentioning that!

[@hominhchi]

Now I understand. Been shooting bow for awhile, but no idea all of this stuff. Thank y'all. Now it's time to work on my arrows. Subbed.

[@Mr22lukasd]

These two guys are the Abbott & Costello of the archery world! 😁 Love it 👍

[@duanevigue1603]

Except Lou was actually funny and not stoned off his ass.

[@DetourswithFrank]

Great information. Just bought my first bow and your vids have helped me choose the bow I got and accessories for it. Keep up the great work. This is Frank aka Uncle Crusty.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks Frank! Glad we're able to help, as always. And thanks for being a consistent comment contributor to the channel

[@WoeEMoW]

Strong Jay and Silent (but not silent and hilarious) Bob vibes. Thanks for the info!

[@Doinprettygood]

A million lightbulbs just went off. Thank you so much for this info.

[@sarahkrus4356]

I love charts, but how do I find the chart you mentioned?

[@outdoorsoregonian9464]

I know this video is 4 years old but I just got my first bow today and all these video help so much

[@TheSticksBrand]

Glad they're still helpful!

[@grounded7362]

The information in this video could get you hurt real bad as they have no idea what they are talking about. don't just trust what someone on KZbin or an archery dealing tells you about arrow selection. Get the information about the spine of an arrow and what the numbers on the arrow mean from the manufacturer so you know what you are getting into. I have had archery shops try to sell me arrows that were not properly sized for my draw weight, broadhead weight and draw length and they claimed to be the experts. Bow and arrow manufactures are MORE than happy to help you understand their product. They don't sell directly to the end users and are not just looking to sell you something. Do NOT take advise from these guys about setting up your bow and selecting arrows.

[@Akuma_-eb5uv]

This is my first time watching one of your videos and I like the chemistry you two have. I just subscribed.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Yahoo! More awesome videos to come, thanks for the follow

[@shandor2522]

You guys are great comedic partners! But seriously, isn't the thinner the better, as long as the spine is strong?

[@jaredkirkpatrick1413]

I laughed and learned so much here. Earned my sub. ❤️

[@dumbledoresarmy7569]

6grain per pound. Is that including broad head or just the arrow shaft itself?

[@sebastianw6406]

Love your videos! Simple and explain things well. Would have to look everywhere to get all the info you guys gave in that one video. thanks and keep it up.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Glad the videos help! Thanks so much for the support and kind words! Send video suggestions whenever you'd like and we'll add it to the list

[@AllanBrothersOutdoors]

I wish they still made videos they’re great!

[@PaulGSXR]

You're back in luck!

[@TheDeepSharePodcast]

I'm seeing a lot of brands' arrows don't specify length.. at least online. I looked up Carbon Express 400s and i found them.. but it seems its just one length. What am I missing?

[@Elkhunterguy]

Since the only dumb question is the one not asked....How do you determine Grains? Does a mini scale have grains or grams? I have shot Easton axis 400 for years but I just shot the Gold Tip Kinetic Kaos and was impressed with the impact. I hope you include those in your arrow preview. Nice hat! Great work.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Not a dumb question at all! And to be honest, I'm not exactly sure how it's determined but from my understanding grains are basically what make up the shaft.. basically the material. The more grains per inch, the stiffer the area will be since there are more "grains" in that small surface area... Then, obviously, the less grains per inch, the more flexible the shaft will be, allowing the arrow to bend.. That's my beginner's understanding. I think of it as, oddly enough, knitting. The more close the yarn is being knitted together in a specific area, the more shape that product will take.. If the yarn isn't being knit together very closely, the more gaps you'll see, which will lead to a product not taking much of a shape. Odd analogy but it works haha! Grains has nothing to do with a scale or weight.. It is a common misunderstanding since the word is very similar to grams. But in summary, grains is basically determining the flex of the material. I'll have to check out the Gold Tip Kinetic Kaos and put a review up sometime! Thanks for the recommendation and compliments!

[@Elkhunterguy]

The Sticks Outfitter 🎯 Thanks guys.....

[@Jai.desmond]

I'm new to the channel and this video was very helpful and I don't have a broken Arrow in my arm

[@MrNightStand]

2:23 Does this arrow weight also include the weight of the arrowhead? I have some arrows that weight 324 Gr without a broadhead. Should I include the extra 100 Gr that comes from the arrowhead in the Gr per draw weight? i.e. 424 Gr arrow instead of 324 Gr?

[@John_Claybrook]

I am a little confused by the number 340 on your arrow. You mentioned while showing us the 340 that it is 340 grain. I have been searching trying to figure out what the number is on my arrow. Most places I look tell me the number is the spine. Was this a mishap in the video or is the 3 digit number on my arrow really the grain and not the spine?

[@brnksr98]

When you were talking about the correct weight of arrows to use was that including the broad head? my arrows are 29 inches at 9.3 GPI would be about 269 that falls way short of what you recommended for arrow weight. I'm pulling 60 lbs. Thanks

[@djgeojoe]

You Guys are awesome, really enjoyed the show.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks so much!

[@blacktailwarriors9893]

No matter what video you guys make, it is always hilarious! Keep it up fellas.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Love the comment, thanks for watchin!

[@Deadleg1-502]

To the point and answered my questions. Good job guys. Thank you.

[@rogerweisse1213]

Thanks for sharing

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks for watching!

[@superdaver4903]

Someone reminds me to Bobcat Goldthwait.. You guys are hilarious and fun to watch. My favorite combination to learn something 🤙🏽

[@TheSticksBrand]

Awesome thanks for watching! Appreciate the positive post

[@mikesipes5305]

you guys are great looks like you are having fun and enjoy teaching and your hats and winter hats look great by the way where can i get them way up here in Canada

[@TheSticksBrand]

Hey Mike, thanks for the comment! Unfortunately we don't ship to Canada... yet! We hope to have that capability soon. Thanks again for commenting and for your support!

[@dmaskell]

Man, that broadhead waving around is scary to watch :P

[@Dr.Ratio69]

Informative 👍

[@jantizionist9145]

How the hell you get anything done with him next to you is beyond me, you guys are great, great trying to watch y'all trying to keep straight faces

[@connorhart7597]

"Watch where you're pointing that thing!" *proceeds to swing a broadhead towards his own eye* 🤣🤣 fuckin love this guy

[@jaxon9324]

Is the weight of the arrow with or without a broadhead/feild tip?

[@andrewharmon7929]

Thanks, this was very helpful for a novice!

[@TheSticksBrand]

Glad it was helpful!

[@warrenmatt5099]

Good info ill keep it in mind

[@TriggerHappy007]

Silly question but is the total grans the same as the spine? I know the tips are 100 grain 125 grain ECT.. I cannot find the grains on Amazon for the arrow. I have a dragon 7 I just bought and the arrows that came with it are ruined so I ended up getting the whole bow for free 😊but I now need arrows!

[@30minutesLess]

Heavy arrows and a fixed head make a WAAAACK sound when it hits. God damn it rewarding.

[@optimistix6825]

Is it okay if I shoot 350 grains at 60 lbs

[@rickramoscreative]

Can you make a video of how to get over target panic?

[@jjtt6866]

I recommend not to panic, it helps.

[@christopherharpster9330]

Hey guys brand new sub, and beginner Archer. My question is when you're taking the weight of arrow, do you add the weight of your broadheads and field tips into that? For instance, if I'm supposed to shoot a 425 grain arrow from my bow, would I buy 325 arrows and 100 broadheads? Thanks in advance!

[@TheSticksBrand]

Yes, include weight/grain of everything!

[@corker97]

I have a 27inch draw length shooting at exactly 60lb, wanting to use a 300grn arrow for both hunting and target shooting will that be okay?

[@johnhunter2524]

300 grn should be fine. Most manufacturers recommend a 350 at least for 60lbs. 300 is just a little more stiff. I'm at the same draw weight and I use 300 grn just to be safe. That way depending on the insert and tip I use my flex isn't crazy.

[@corker97]

@@johnhunter2524 I can increase the poundage to 70 but my shoulder is fucked atm, plus I'm shooting 400 grains I think that will do

[@alexalvarado2156]

I haven't picked up a bow since 6th grade haha and that was just for a school activity. So I'm trying to get into archery 🏹

[@rayray11011]

Where can I find the chart?

[@bryanbowlv]

For the equation of determining gains based off draw weight, does that include the amount of grains of the broadhead or the arrow only?

[@TheSticksBrand]

The arrow only!

[@jkelly9845]

Does the 6-8 grains per pound for the arrow include the broadhead

[@TheSticksBrand]

No, that's just the arrow

[@joeytrout1334]

do one about sights and stuff about them

[@AdventureOne]

uh, lots of issues here.. gpi is the weight. Spine is how stiff the arrow is, not the diameter. In your Beman example, 340 is the spine, not the weight - the weight varies based on length, aka grains per inch)

[@nionadd3412]

Well done!

[@dantewilliams3999]

My arrows break when they impact something I get mines from walmart😕

[@bradyhodges7814]

Does this include the weight of the broad head and arrow or just arrow

[@TheSticksBrand]

Rewatch the video - I'm pretty sure I say it in there somewhere

[@brentmartin580]

It doesn't say it in there. 6 to 8 grain per pound of draw weight so at 50 lbs is 400 grain so does the 400 grain recommendation equal 400 with the Broadhead etc on the arrow or 400 with just the arrow and then more grains added with the Broadhead etc on it?

[@martinfamily3040]

?

[@TheSticksBrand]

Sorry for the delayed response! This includes the field point/broadhead. So make sure the broadhead grain is included in your measurement with the arrow shaft.

[@Mirko..Meka906]

Great vid. Thanks for the info.

[@lackgold25]

Thanks for the info boys!

[@TheSticksBrand]

Absolutely, thanks for watching! And thanks for your supportive comments

[@synetrics]

I just bought a 80#, 29" draw bow and all the charts I'm seeing are saying to go with a 240-260 arrow. That definitely puts me under 5. Am I missing something here?

[@Chris-de3vq]

the 240-260 is the arrow spine, it defines how stiff the shaft is not the weight, a 260 spine arrow is usually 11.5 grains per inch so a 29.5'' shaft would be 339gr. with a 100gr tip that's 439. 439/80lbs is 5.5 grains per pound. with a 125gr tip I'd be 5.8 gr per pound. They were wrong in the video the 340 on their shafts means it has more flex. The actual arrow weight changes based on the length it is cut to for instance if you used a 340 arrow like they showed it'd calculate to 4.6 grains per pound of draw weight which stresses the bow since the arrow isn't absorbing a larger portion of that energy.

[@HeavilyConnected]

Bigger number equals the amount of flex not strength.

[@bradleynixon3839]

Spine is just arrow stiffness. Nothing to do with weight of arrow diameter....or at least that is my understanding of it.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Yeah that's a much better way of putting it than how I explained it. It's really the grains per inch (the more grains per inch, the stiffer... the less grains per inch, the more flexible). Honestly, not sure why I kept using the diameter as a reference. I think I was referring to the diameter as the spine makes up the arrow's surface, which in a sense is the diameter.. but it definitely doesn't determine the diameter's weight or size. Thanks for contributing with your comment!

[@jarodstevens2710]

The Sticks Outfitter You guys are frickin awesome!!! y'all ever film your hunts ?

[@TheSticksBrand]

Glad you enjoy our videoes, thanks for the comment!! We don't film hunts... yet. Something we've been debating and talking about. I'd like to keep my hunting (especially for western big game) an escape from the daily grind. I believe filming would possibly interfere with the experience of the hunt. However, we aren't opposed to filming tree-stand hunts if we ever end up doing that (I can't sit still very easily), waterfowl hunting, predator, etc. What type of hunts would you like to see?

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The Sticks Outfitter anything really... all would be a great watch !! being from the south , Elk are always awesome!!

[@jarodstevens2710]

that being said..I absolutely understand why you're reluctant to turn it into work..thanks for the excellent videos

[@dogshoe21]

Hey what's wrong with Walmart arrows? Lol, seriously i love using them for target arrows, just cut off the vanes, replace with blazers, cut the shafts to proper length and bingo, cheap arrows that fly pretty well! I posted how i build them oncmy channel if you wanna see... you'll love my insert removal hack lol

[@walleye306]

buddy on the left looks a little baked there haha. thanks for posting this, helped quite a bit. picking up an rth with a block target

[@lsoutdoors2354]

Great viedo yall

[@hamishnorris251]

thank you Craig and shat

[@sparky9867]

Good info.

[@anditnurintasworo6869]

hi guys, just curious, what would happen if we overweight the arrow? say like im using 640gr for 55lbs draw length? thanks!

[@TheSticksBrand]

+Andit Nur Intasworo inaccuracy and speed/velocity loss for the most part

[@hunterdemmon3916]

But yet much more kenetic energy held longer for more penetration. Go heavier, sacrifice speed, get a heavier arrow and plow through anything in its way

[@leadslinger8144]

love my bemans... good vid

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks Tony!

[@sawyerhuff7316]

it said my weight would be 180 to 240 is that to light

[@heathschwab]

thanks. god bless y'all.

[@TheSticksBrand]

You're welcome Heath! God bless you too, thanks for watching

[@christynelong5357]

Can you do a video about tips please

[@TheSticksBrand]

field tip or broadheads?

[@sarahhambidge4872]

Where the eff is the downloadable chart

[@RustyShacklefardd]

KZbin tutorial on arrow selection: Make sure you select the correct spine size, weight, and draw length Me an intellectual: *haha amazon prime arrow make deer fall down*

[@MrJustin978]

How high is the dude on the left?

[@kim94503]

Nice! New sub, new archery gal too

[@nprweirdo]

thank you

[@TheSticksBrand]

you're welcome! thanks for watching

[@oliversudden1796]

Spine is the stiffness of the arrow. Has nothing to do with diameter or gpi.

[@chickenluverful]

I feel like I’m watching Tool Time

[@TheSticksBrand]

We'll take that as a compliment haha

[@sabas7007]

How to Choose Arrows for a Compound Bow 30in 90lbs ?

[@ashketchup7007]

so one thing if an arrow was 3$ and 7$ does the thee dollar one just as good a a seven dollar one or worse

[@TheSticksBrand]

For arrows, and for most archery products, you get what you pay for. A $3 arrow will most likely be less quality than a $7 arrow.. Most frequently, you'll find it in the straightness of the arrow.

[@jer6162]

Do you need to cut your arrows.

[@TheSticksBrand]

If they are too long, yes

[@jackboyd147]

is 700 spine heaver than 600 spine

[@Hiphop101ize]

What happens if the arrow is too long?

[@TheSticksBrand]

That will affect the velocity negatively and cause the arrow to drop much quicker than what would be ideal.

[@emilyh9076]

Geez. Love to have a hoot with you guys lol

[@toreyyoung1518]

No no no always go higher than the spine chart says. I shoot a 57 lb PSE that is rated for 3:45 IBO at 57 lb I'm shooting a 340-grain arrow and it acts way too weak. Depends on the bow depends on the power stroke all those basics you just gave 90% of the time are wrong! They're just safety margins. Always go stiffer if you're going to hunt something otherwise you won't get the penetration you want.

[@joelow6086]

Hahaha you two guys are jokers but theorically right . I experimented with various arrrow length and broadheads before I hunt. Broadhead tuning is critical for accuracy. Thanks for yr video I enjoyed watching.

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks for the comment!

[@markwest8960]

"Just the field tip"

[@TheSticksBrand]

Ha!!

[@ajnunya5518]

Informative and hillarious 😂

[@randpherigo9724]

I dont need an expensive bow.. but I DO need really good arrows.. ?

[@Lifeofcorre]

I aspire to be that high

[@loganhockenberry5026]

Man shads great

[@iansadventures2550]

like your vids

[@TheSticksBrand]

Thanks Ian!

[@aidenfrette6393]

The spine is not the same as the size of

[@MikeC-my4lf]

Something tells me these boys ain't from Los Angeles

[@nicnic1190]

Yay!

[@Chrisbreezy1979]

Walmart arrows every brand at Walmart are junk they all bust easily and split and crack at the knock end! Plus the arrows such as the real tree arrow that has stickers or plastic holding the fletchings on won’t last three shots into a target! The shop here is called mountain outdoors and the arrows there aren’t cheap and hardly better than Walmart! I’d order offline and make sure they’re aluminum! And that the knock is fixed tightly and that the fletchings are glued to the actual arrow

[@slamsshenanigans2296]

just found your channel, you guys are funny, Is Shad always drunk? ha ha

[@dennis_the_menacesoonerlif9645]

They are either somewhat stoned or just slightly drunk. 🤣