How to Clip, Lube, and Band-aid Mod Your Stabilizers

[@TaehaTypes]

THERE IS A NEW UPDATED GUIDE kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6SxqWSVmZV7mLM

[@dubblo7905]

*What a legend*

[@huantian]

Yes I'm not the only person who came here after seeing the new upload.

[@wuttled]

perfect timing

[@hvrst6241]

@Cedric Aden holy crap, bots are taking over

[@hvrst6241]

pls delete comment

[@pogvin]

thank you for existing

[@guec4414]

How does this not have any replies

[@Plane.]

Reploe

[@gabrielm968]

Rest in peace Kevin

[@gabrielm968]

@SaltE72 Supernatural reference. His name is Kevin Tran.

[@pogvin]

@@gabrielm968 you're right i forgot i was famous, rip kevin

[@bigfloppacodm1623]

Timestamps Disassembly: 1:34 Clip: 1:45 Teflon Grease: 2:09 Reassembly: 2:33 Dielectric grease: 3:03 Full assemble: 3:53 Test (No bandaid): 4:48 Apply bandaid: 5:13 Dielectric grease to bandaid: 6:00 Test (With bandaid): 6:48

[@Jeszen_]

Today I spent 4 hours lubbing my switches and clipping the stabs for the first time thanks to your videos. It was extremely exhausting, but now I fell I'm typing in a top tier buttery keyboard.

[@mohawk4759]

how tf did it take you that long

[@defranken]

@@mohawk4759 if you want to lube all switches, you have to take them apart, one by one. Will take 4 to 6 hours lol depending on keyboard size, thats completely normal

[@mohawk4759]

@@defranken i know but its never taken me 4 hours

[@lastlore3197]

@@mohawk4759 maybe because they dont have a switch opener or a 3d printed lubing station or something, it can be hard if its like that

[@toad7395]

@@mohawk4759 If you're a newbie lubing and clipping, modding in general can take a really long time man.

[@MisterSaru]

Wow...this one simple process fixed all the rattling on my stabs...my jaws literally dropped after the first stabs I clipped and lubed cause of the difference it made in the sound and feel. Thanks for the great tutorial!

[@tomalcolm]

I’ve had these Knipex snips in my Amazon cart for about two months. Got them at neighbour’s garage sale yesterday for .50$. Power of positive thinking.

[@deejdotwav]

4:56 : Lube, Clip, no Bandaid 6:57 : Lube, Clip, Bandaid

[@PabzRoz]

is it just me or does the band aid actually make it sound a little louder?

[@deejdotwav]

@@PabzRoz I wouldn't say louder but definitely more of a deeper tone

[@bloop7282]

Deejay honestly it makes it sound wayy nicer

[@dracolnyte]

i dont hear an improvement, just difference in sound

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@deejdotwav high pitched tone, not deeper in anyway..shits way louder.

[@fumoffu72]

I just used this video as a guide while fixing the noisy stabs on my new Drop Alt. It was easier/faster than expected and my big keys sound night-and-day better. Thank you.

[@Asdfmonst]

oh my... I've never tried a method that has made my stabilized keys so thocky tysm :)

[@j.c.k.6883]

pls make a video on switch lubing

[@Dubimoxd]

Please do this.

[@Zach-qi5kk]

PLEASE

[@johnsihn4520]

PLEASE

[@ulqi]

PLEASE

[@leandrotorricovidal8777]

@@TaehaTypes PLEASE

[@justathad]

Finally swapped out the stabs on my very first keyboard (GMMK) and this is a lifechanger - wish I had learned to do this and done this with my very first actual build from scratch which would now require desoldering all my switches. Oh well, I guess it's just a sign of my progression in this hobby, lol.

[@Astr0zzy]

Hi, I have recently noticed that Teaha is using a new method of clipping and lubricating stabs in his recent live streams and videos, and it would be really helpful if he could make an updated tutorial. Is anyone else wanting a new and updated video?

[@PiccoloCraig]

From what I've seen, Teaha uses a lot less grease and brushes Krytox 205g0 inside on the bars as well as inside the stabs, but a lot less than what is used in the video. Perhaps due to cost.

[@limmitd9041]

@@wilderoutdoors That's true for switches, but you don't want to over-lube switches. Stabs are different though where you don't need to worry so much about over-lubing them.

[@eliaspariser3234]

he did say on stream that a updates vid would be out by the end of the year!

[@deejeh9494]

@@eliaspariser3234 seems like i should wait 30 days before modding my noisy-ass k95 spacebar.

[@eliaspariser3234]

@@deejeh9494 ye i jus said nah i’m not waiting and just did what he does here

[@asc7193]

I had the worst stabalizers on my keyboard, I clipped the stabalizers and it really helps! Thanks Taeha!

[@ProStar-Ghost]

Quality information in this video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. I'll be referring to this video in the near future, I'm fairly certain.

[@SmileXForXDaXScope]

Dude, this helped so much on my cheep Chinese bored. It has plate mount stabs and were so dam loud. Now they sound amazing. Thank you so much

[@itz_kemos9706]

lmfao i thought i broke my stabilizer but it just fell apart and i watched your video and it taught me how to put it back together thank you

[@Blake5380]

Thank you so much for being alive much respect and love

[@OnyxMP312]

Fantastic guide! I never knew lubing made such a major improvement! Also I think you could use some macro shots of the components. I understood the guide just fine but I think that it'd be better if I didn't have to squint at the screen trying to find what you're pointing at. Good work overall 👍

[@clubclack4888]

Honestly, this was SOOOO helpful when I was just starting out. Thanks Taeha. You are 100% the man.

[@pengu8597]

👌

[@xwdishere]

Thanks for the guide - I thought I might've been a bit too heavy-handed with the lubricant, but it's really helped my keys be a lot quieter and smoother!

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

So do you think it's possible to add too much grease to a stab?

[@xwdishere]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 You can definitely overlube stabilizers. I got a second-hand keyboard where the last guy ridiculously overlubed the stabilizer. It's hard to do, but probably a lot easier with Krytox 205g0 than the generic silicone grease. Of course, you can always try wiping / washing the excess off.

[@ComplexityBenz]

Great tutorial! That's exactly what a novice like me wants. One question: I don't have Dielectric and Teflon Grease. Can I use Superlube instead? Or is it more recommended to use these two?

[@akira8-customkeyboards17]

For start i have buy superlube multi purpoise oil but it's not the right way definitely, krytox 205 g0 + permatex dielectric grease + band, maybe using superlube on the stem

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@akira8-customkeyboards17 Superlube on switches and stab stems is fine; it's a low viscosity lube that is safe on plastic. It might not be as "smooth" but it won't make it sticky, which is the big fear with switches.

[@wejvi32]

Better to use thick krytox instead of dielectric grease. Something like 206g2 or 207.

[@kcnj4885]

Thank you very much for the helpful video. Quality of the content and video-editing are just top-notch. Keep up the good work!

[@Donbros]

if you use krytox 205 g 0 do the same thing as you do with dieletric grease. Trust me it is not enough lube if you just use brush for wire! Nathan now also just puts all wire into lube too - it is the best way

[@josephlee9827]

holy, all my stabilizers now sound so nice. wow ty so much :D

[@JCYoo]

Thanks, bud. I was able to finally finish my Quefrency build thanks to your video.

[@RE4PER]

This video made my keyboard sound and feel even better. Thanks a bunch.

[@amizan8653]

It's honestly crazy seeing the overall quality difference between this version and Taeha's updated version. I mean both are good but.. the 2nd one is much better in my opinion.

[@hijoeist]

Why are there fangs on the stabilizers in the first place if the only thing they do is damage the PCB and make noise?

[@JFinns]

Probably just left over from the plastic molds used to make them

[@TommyFenstermacher5150]

@@JFinns That's simply how they were designed (originally by Cherry). I think it was meant to make the bottom-out less harsh. That said, all it really does is make the key feel broken or otherwise wrong. Ever since I began using a keyboard with clipped and lubed stabs (and GMK screw-ins, at that), I've never been able to go back to even well-lubed Costars.

[@ItsZentraGaming]

@@TommyFenstermacher5150 Funny thing is GMK screw-in is legit the same as a cherry stabilizer only difference is the screw to secure it better. That being said I like the "cheaper" cherry stabs.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@TommyFenstermacher5150 Is there anything that can be done to help Costars, besides lubing?

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@ItsZentraGaming I think the screw might inadvertently end up transmitting more shock/sound to the pcb. It's really cool how keyboard design has made people really aware of mechanical engineering and design, showing principles like material stiffness and strength, damping, vibration, and acoustics all in one use-case. I can't think of another popular hobby that brings awareness of physics besides maybe guns. ; )

[@Razersnek_Official]

This mod helped my RK96 reach a deeper thock. Nice video

[@natebisque6067]

Will krytox 205 g0 work for the stabilizer lube?

[@lesliel9975]

Thank you for this resource! Looking forward to more!

[@BubVisuals]

This was actually so useful. I have been wanting to band-aid mod for ages.

[@beanpork508]

Hey bub, big fan

[@young6speed22]

Made a massive difference in my stabilizers thank you.

[@cod_enjoer8406]

Thanks you for making keyboards a hobby

[@Caleb_Djk_18]

Dude, this video is GOLD!!

[@mon_1]

holy shit i tried the band aid thing but without the dielectric grease and I clipped my stabilizers and it was very satisfactory

[@orpheusx]

Noyce!!! Thanks for making this! Much appreciated!

[@pengu8597]

Thx sooo much for teaching me how to clip, it made my keeb so much better

[@renataferrari7142]

Congratulations Nathan Kim, I love watching your videos.

[@Ucceah]

i have to advise advise against excessive amounts of grease to dampen noise. (not hatin'!) it does work, but collects dust and debris that ends up scratching up the plastic over years to come. wrapping the bars with plumber's PTFE tape is the cleaner long and more concervative long term solution. (just make sure to stretch it out fully, or it will wear faster)

[@Gotallofthem1]

It would be great to know where exactly you are putting the tape? The whole bar, just the tip? Just the bend? How many layers do you wrap around? Thanks

[@jewelss]

have you clipped your nails since 2018?

[@strongchad8130]

now the second most requested video hand modeling photo shoot.

[@ryanshim912]

Wow! I've been waiting for this! Thanks for the tips. You are so handsome! You should pivot from keyboard videos and just show your face from now. I definitely want more peace signs. Sick animation!!!

[@mohammadhamid9586]

this has helped me and made my keyboard soooo smooth

[@zodspeed]

Can I just use dielectric grease on the plastic instead of Teflon grease?

[@jamesrush6219]

I think the reason two types of grease was used is because the Dielectric Grease would be to thick and would slow the stabs down causing them to be mushy... so use thick Dielectric Grease on the wire and Teflon Grease (thinner) on the fine walls of the stabs.

[@QuackZack]

@@jamesrush6219 Switch lubricant (Trys 3203/3204, GPL 205/6) is also a better alternative, just nothing too thick.

[@vicentealday]

Can I use Silicone Oil (sw-92sa) in the stabilizers? I know it works on the switches, but I need to know if it works on the stabilizers, thanks in advance

[@jadenngl]

@@vicentealday yes, everything that applies for switch lube still works INSIDE of the stabs

[@rachmatzulfiqar]

Thanks to you my spacebar is now silent, and just clicky

[@yawny9710]

Modded stabs are the best, some feel better than the alpha keys. Thanks for the video, completely changed the sound of my keyboard.

[@roaf8998]

Hey I have a problem after clipping it and installing the stabs back all of a sudden my key doesn’t go up back anymore I can’t press it

[@JackAQW]

do you still recomend using Dielectric grees and Teflon Grease in 2020 or krytox205g0 is better?

[@DrHades-kh5xm]

Nathan still uses both Dielectric Grease and Teflon for stab lubing. The big difference between them and traditional switch lubes is their unrivaled viscosity; they're just way to thick for use on switches, yet just thick enough to make a super smooth stab.

[@shilo.5087]

Just use whichever you have

[@zach_morgan]

@@shilo.5087 how bad would it be to use krytox g205 to lube the inside of the stabs in place of the teflon grease?

[@hjedk]

@@zach_morgan the only bad thing would be that you used 205g lube for nothing. Test it out, if it does what u want then good, make sure not to put too much since it's thicc. If it doesn't work, use a qtip or something alike to clean it off. When it comes to lubing stuff testing youself is the best way to find answers!

[@Gullfisken89]

Damn, everything is so clean and precise! I bet you are a perfectionist and a germaphobe.

[@VictorDude98]

Doubt it with those nails

[@ipsyop]

great video ! I don't have the grease yet but I was able to go ahead and clip the stabilizers and that made a bit of a difference ! can't wait to get the grease, thankfully accessing the stabs on the GMMK from PC gaming race is super simple they just pop right on out.

[@jamelburrus8842]

this was a great video. it helped me with everything that i needed to do to the t

[@Ian-hj1jd]

About those kinds of stabilizers, if you don't clip off the pointy stems that are on the bottom, it will destroy the PCB and also have a dampening effect with the overall stroke. Not sure. When I pressed on the keys that are stabilized, I felt like a dampening effect on those keys and I think they are coming from the stabilizers. They don't feel like you are pressing it all the way down that you would feel from the switch. The Royal Kludge RK61 has that problem, but when it comes from the Ducky One 2 Mini, the keys with the stabilizers feel awesome! Just like any other key. Also on the RK61, the switches they use are "RK Red" switches. Not really sure what they are, but they are not that good as the "s" key has stopped responding to my strokes. I'd rather go with a company like Cherry that has tested their switches and go with the real deal.

[@crowsguard]

Thanks for this very helpful video! I have a question, does the type of lube really matter?

[@imtherealdomino7480]

I learned to how build a keyboard in 3 hours because of your videos thank you.

[@Dannamak]

What's the name of the case housing the cream/purple keycaps at 00:23?

[@pinnyskenis]

2 years since this video came out, we need an UPDATE video

[@Adrian-wx7ko]

For plate mounted stabs, I assume the clipping and bandaid mod won't be necessary?

[@valentinzunino2127]

Warding cause I would like to know too

[@TommyFenstermacher5150]

@@valentinzunino2127 Plate mounted stabs can be modded exactly as in this video. In fact, plate-mounted stabs are usually the ones that need it the most!

[@valentinzunino2127]

@@TommyFenstermacher5150 Thank you man, it's good to know

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Sounds so much better. Thanks!

[@silversong4VR]

I've been watching your vods in prep for doing my own DIY keyboard and you are AMAZING! I do wonder though, why you no longer use this method of lubing in your custom builds? Thanks so much for all you do!

[@docbrazen]

Are there any disadvantages to clipping the stabilizer? Why do they even bother to have them if everyone just cuts them?

[@Caution40404]

This is from another comment: "That's simply how they were designed (originally by Cherry). I think it was meant to make the bottom-out less harsh. That said, all it really does is make the key feel broken or otherwise wrong. Ever since I began using a keyboard with clipped and lubed stabs (and GMK screw-ins, at that), I've never been able to go back to even well-lubed Costars."

[@kleavage1983]

What does Taeha use to lube his stabilizers now? I noticed during his more recent, streams he was using some different lube for both the wire and housing.

[@fwzmhmd]

Krytox 205g0

[@martydom9820]

Going to do these mods to my poker 3 rgb. Thank you! Do you know how long the lube with last before I have to relube it?

[@FLawLesSTaStE]

Nathan can I use switch lubes ti lube inside the stbas where plastic meets plastic I dont have that you are using. But I have the other lube for the metal parts tho.

[@FLawLesSTaStE]

Nathan, do you put Drawer Liner under your pcb to dampen the sound or a Sorbothane Acoustic & Vibration Damping? Does it matter what I use for material?

[@Soei23]

Flippin' awesome!!! My descent in to keyboard madness has just got 'lubed'...

[@theblinkstykrab3106]

Is it okay to substitute the teflon grease with dialectric grease if we don't have any?

[@JesseOrmandMusic]

Hello, where did you get the keycaps to the nice green and orange retro looking keyboard, please?

[@carrot10]

0:03 where can i get those white, green, and peach keycaps? :O

[@smd6758]

do you still use bandaids when using stabs? because I watched one of your streams recently and you didnt

[@kissu_io]

He prefers his stabs to be a bit louder currently, just a preference. 😊

[@MightyCanary]

in the intro, what is that 1800 keyboard in the top right? the grey/green one?

[@SudiptaKarmakar87]

What is the very first keycap set at 0:02 and the board? I absolutely love the color scheme.

[@saggyqueefius]

@ 00:10 what is the name of the keycaps at the top right?

[@jbinfa7k]

May I suggest using Medical Tape (roll of cloth or paper of choice) e.g. 3M Micropore Surgical Tape? It leaves no glue marks at all and we could apply multiple layers because the paper one is quite thin.

[@matt-dw]

I found that clipping all four legs (combined with a lot of krytox on the wire) immensely reduces the rattle and I don't know why people don't do this

[@abdomination]

I've watched a few of your videos. This is the one that I felt deserved a sub even though you put too much *to me* lube on the band aid haha.

[@cloudzcojuangco]

Whats the second keyboard in the intro? And what switches did the keyboard with the green caps have?

[@oldcat87]

Thanks, Nathan! Do you agree the majority of the reduction comes with the dielectric grease?

[@rosa1848]

Can I do this with some krytox 205g0 instead of dielectric?

[@p8ntbawlr210]

damn that makes a world of difference!

[@bctimbo]

can you use krytox instead of dielectric grease for this?

[@keyannn]

Dang his content is so much more different from now

[@goodjihad]

Great tutorial my friend!

[@cloudconnected7008]

Thanks for the Video. What is that Keyboardsetup which is in the end of this vid?

[@raymanovich3254]

Do you need three different lubricants for your board? I've seen other tutorials do both the stabilizer wires and housing and switches with their g205g0. Will that work?

[@gugujee]

Edit: read your question wrong at first. No you don’t need to use three different types. 205g is more expensive though so some people prefer to use cheaper greases since you need to use a bit more on the wires.

[@raymanovich3254]

@@gugujee Thanks, that's helpful.

[@ZIMMERHEILER]

Is there any difference in using Krytox 205g0 instead of Teflon and Dielectric Grease ?

[@1ava]

this has convinced me to do this when i get my gat yellows.

[@garrettmaddrill5931]

why do they fangs exist on the stabs in the fist place just manufacturing error?

[@Dust5303]

If you have a pre-built keyboard and you want to mod your stabs, it required for you to desolder your switches?

[@izzio6680]

viiiz yes

[@drizfn8159]

which one would last longer? the band aid or the clipping one

[@neovisual633]

Any plans to update the this and the switch lubing guide?

[@scafarie6448]

Can anyone pls help me with this tip. With the bandaid mod do you have to have grease on it or no? I don’t have grease yet might get some later.

[@Peridott1]

I saw another video where they didn’t put any but I think there’s a very small noise difference

[@scafarie6448]

Peridott1 ok cool thanks.

[@caius_rides_around3007]

this is a gem

[@andycao4920]

This was so incredibly helpful

[@kaistudio8229]

can this band-aid method work on plate mounted stabilizers.?

[@Echo4Yankee]

You only clipped two of the legs. Is that because you need one on each side to retain the stabilizer?

[@davidroberts5600]

I find that if I use this much grease with my plate mounted stabilizers that the keys get mushy and stick. I had this issue with Box Whites. I'm curious if lighter switches need less lube or if plate mounted stabs affect it?

[@boratsagdiyev1586]

did you solve it?

[@davidroberts5600]

@@boratsagdiyev1586 Yes. I switched to Krytox 205g0. You only need a small amount. Sounds and feels better.

[@boratsagdiyev1586]

@@davidroberts5600 ah alright, what kind did you use before? g2?

[@davidroberts5600]

@@boratsagdiyev1586 Superlube and dielectric grease.

[@boratsagdiyev1586]

@@davidroberts5600 i guess it was the superlube then :) Dialectric grease is just to dampen the metal in its housing.

[@ItachiUchiha-lg4vj]

yDo you prefer Durgod or Ducky? I mean quality and overall working

[@Mannex17]

finally, a vid for noobs like me that not only explains how to clip, but why

[@MoxZenith]

Whats the name of the keycap set that's on the top-left most keyboard when he shows all of them in the beginning? Amazing colorway.

[@JSchin1001]

Just use athletic tape. No need to waste band-aids.