How To Correctly Do A LifeSaver (Shoulder Check) | Riding Tips #14

[@stevenfeather4529]

This is great thing to reinforce even with riders who’ve passed their test, I regularly see riders with no L plates not doing lifesavers.

[@MotoEcosse]

Yeah I unfortunately see that as well.

[@sjv6598]

I’m taking my cbt shortly. As a cyclist who does around 3500 miles a year on the road, I’ve been practicing my lifesaver to get used to when and where I should be doing them. I do them whilst cycling anyway but going forward to being a motorcycle rider it has reinforced the need to do them too.

[@MotoEcosse]

Hey mate, yeah being on a bicycle is definitely a great place to practice your lifesavers. 🤜🤛

[@kangaroogroundboy]

The odd thing is, I ride bikes and motorbikes and when I'm cycling I still try to look in my mirrors.... You don't realize how much you use them on a motorbike till you don't have them on your bicycle

[@Creeperman-mb2fr]

Great videos mate, I went from being a Motorbike virgin\ novice to full DAS licence today in space of 2 weeks doing CBT, MOd1, theory and Mod 2 today . Your videos really helped me along together with some good instructors at my local riding school, many thanks again for your strightforward instructions

[@sonskib849]

At the CBT they told us to do lifesavers but never told us what the point of them was, I passed but didn't feel confident with them thanks for this video!

[@Coded19871]

Hi mate just wanted to show my appreciation and say thank you for making the videos you have done especially in regards to mod 1 and mod 2. I passed my das mod 1 last week and mod 2 today with 0 minors and a lot of what I learnt was from watching your videos. Thank you once again.

[@MotoEcosse]

That's awesome to hear. I'm so glad the video's helped. Congratulations on passing both mods. Ride safe 🤜🤛

[@Keetonmdk]

After watching many of your videos I sat my mod2 this morning and passed with zero faults. I have your voice engrained on my brain, "Mirror, Mirror, Signal, lifesaver" Thanks so much.

[@gatehanger1385]

Doing my on road session to complete my CBT equivalent tomorrow... Lifesavers are very much on my mind, never having ridden on the public road before. The timing of your video is fortuitous 😊

[@MotoEcosse]

Have fun tomorrow mate. The CBT is a great day. 🤜🤛

[@gatehanger1385]

@@MotoEcosse Thank you! Got it an hour ago, though the instructor wasn't very impressed with my skills... He said I was safe but I've a long way to go to stop panicking at junctions. Anyway have my cert and my supercub is taxed, insured and ready to go... It's practice practice practice for me!

[@MotoEcosse]

@@gatehanger1385 junctions are scary when you first start riding. They will get easier and your confidence will grow. 🤜🤛

[@seton3342]

I always think of them as life savers for those blind spot checks and I use “stationery shoulder checks” which are left shoulder, left mirror, right mirror, right shoulder - used for pulling away after being stopped for a while

[@eddbelshaw6459]

Got my CBT in 2 Sundays. Your videos are very helpful. Put a deposit down on a KTM Duke 125cc. I'm 33 not ridden since I was 11.

[@alexvale989]

Hey bud just wanted to thank you just passed my mod 2… was sh*trying it and your videos have helped me so much!!! Owe you a beer if we ever meet..

[@bhtan8888]

Hi thanks for the great video and tips! I use Blind Spot Mirror to check Blindspot. In this case I am only using eyeBall movement and that takes a split second, additionally, I still have Peripheral Vision on the path of travel. The shoulder check is what I learn in riding school. But I realise it will take 1 second or so of vision away from path of travel So I make sure I have blind spot mirror installed on my bike. But still will do Shoulder check when not sure ( with path of travel having at least 2 seconds of travelling distance)

[@bomulus1]

Passed my mod 2 today, all your video were brilliant, so useful and full of tips. Many thanks.

[@MotoEcosse]

Awesome to hear, Sam. Congratulations mate. 🤜🤛

[@_XRMissie]

I've been a rider for 7 years, started on a 125 in the UK as a CBT warrior for 5 years, moved to Ireland and upgraded to a 650 when I was old enough for a cat A bike (learner permits are different here). I have my test coming up in a few weeks, lifesavers have always been second nature for lane changes, turning left/right, U-turns, roundabouts, pulling away from parked, overtaking, etc... But I don't actually know if you're supposed to do them every time when setting off in stop-start traffic except for traffic lights like you mentioned. I see a lot of conflicting info on whether you should just check your mirrors and move off, or the full 4 point check. I hear people getting marked with minors for doing too many lifesavers because of this. If I'm stopped for more than like 5 seconds, I instinctively check only my right mirror and shoulder and it's a really bad habit that I'm trying to fix. Hell, even while riding normally, my left mirror is almost entirely useless unless I'm making a left turn.

[@osker450]

What's a CBT warrior

[@kryzpy]

​@@osker450someone who just keeps redoing the CBT instead of upgrading to a full license

[@jocleobury]

Thankyou for this video. I was wondering what lifesavers were. Just waiting for my provisional licence to come through then booking an intro course and CBT. Thankyou xx

[@dengue509]

i love you're videos they have helped me out allot and i enjoy how well you explain things I sometimes go out early in the morning for a ride and i still pull up and do slow manoeuvres keep up the good work

[@lewishillon2446]

I watched your videos for extra tips just before I done my mod 2, they helped a lot! I had my mod 2 today and passed so thank you very much!

[@MotoEcosse]

That's great to hear, Lewis. Congratulations mate. 🤜🤛

[@mrwpg]

They need to put shoulder / blind spot checks into the driving test, may help everyone on the road...

[@rufaiajala]

🙌🏾🌟🙌🏾 always a pleasure seeing a notification from this channel

[@MotoEcosse]

🤜🤛

[@johnmacdonald1878]

Interesting, I've been wondering what a lifesaver is. Not a term used here or back in the day when I rode a bike in the UK. I certainly found the term confusing. Shoulder check is much more familiar. When? anytime you change your position.

[@robertpunton2303]

Just being curious do you recall your independent driving location??

[@Sbrumtwn]

If it's a lane to your left you'd do a right life saver, if it's a lane to your right you'd do a left life saver?? You said the opposite in the vid, correct me if i'm wrong?

[@derekdingwall]

Good advice as always 👍

[@gimlow3946]

Thanks for the brilliant videos, really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Planning to do CBT soon. This has helped alot. Big respect you you mate 🙏👍

[@MotoEcosse]

Cheers mate. Have fun on your CBT. 🤜🤛

[@RADD93]

I like that chin tip

[@jez6208]

Got my mod 2 this friday. First thing. Cacking my breeks!

[@oweningarfield5943]

My instructor said I 'overdo' the lifesaver, looking too far around, which causes bike to become unstable

[@phughes8742]

Great informative video as always, thanks 👍

[@woodys911]

I just started riding and I lost my right eye years ago so life savers are an issue I depend on my mirrors any tips would be appreciated!

[@MotoEcosse]

Hey woody. You can get mirror adapters that you can fit the edge of your mirror. These are supposed to allow you to see into your blind spot. I haven't used them so I can't say for sure but it may be worth looking into. 🤜🤛

[@keithodonnell5152]

Well explained thanks 🙏

[@MauriceTarantulas]

Good tips. Very usefull vid! Will practice with a person on sunday. Test soon🤞.

[@MotoEcosse]

Best of luck for it mate. 🤜🤛

[@MauriceTarantulas]

@@MotoEcosse Will start to crap it in a week or so😜

[@axleg1254]

Thank you 😊

[@patricklall4433]

Two shoulder checks when moving off to continue straight in traffic is excessive and ridiculous (picture doing this in busy stop/start traffic). I've not heard of needing to do a shoulder check when taking up different positions while staying in the same lane either, but if that's the rule in the UK, then it makes no sense. Shoulder checks are vital, but should only be used as needed (when changing lanes, turning right/left, enter/leaving roundabouts, moving off or pulling in, reversing the bike, performing u-turns, overtaking and entering/leaving a motorway or dual carridgeway).

[@ronlysons6750]

As a former driving instructor, I totally agree,

[@XmistieanthonyX]

Failed my mod 2 a few weeks ago through forgetting a lifesaver check I got told about you been watching your videos non stop any advice for life savers mate

[@MotoEcosse]

Hey, Anthony. That's hardlines mate. The main thing to remember about lifesavers is they need to be used whenever you have to either move the bike's position or do a maneuver. For example, if you have to change positions on the road, say from position 2 to position 3, you would need a lifesaver as you're changing the bike's position on the road. The same goes for making turns, if you're turning right you'd need that lifesaver to check that there's nothing trying to come up on your right. Passing a stationary vehicle or overtaking also requires a lifesaver. I did a video on road positioning a while back that you may find useful, there's more info on lifesavers in the video as well. All the best for the next one. 🤜🤛 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXbUpqyBfLZlrrM

[@XmistieanthonyX]

@@MotoEcosse thank you mate legend 💪

[@XmistieanthonyX]

@@MotoEcosse have you got a Facebook mate ?

[@MotoEcosse]

@@XmistieanthonyX yeah mate if you just pop my channel name in the search bar you'll get it. I'm on all the socials as well. 👍

[@XmistieanthonyX]

@@MotoEcosse ok bro np 💪

[@motorcycleman6898]

Thanks for this (and other) vids. I’ve only been riding 18 months so still feel like a newbie. Struggled a bit with the whole shoulder check thing when learning. Totally agree we should check blind spots before moving but why aren’t bike mirrors better - surely there can be a technological solution to this. I also feel that there is a contradiction between the teachings of “move your head to do a shoulder check” and “the bike goes where you look”. I have moved my body/head forward and left to look in my right mirror to reduce/eliminate the blind spot. Also check mirrors more frequently (more than just once) before a manoeuvre to pick up anything that could move into my blind spot. Thoughts?

[@MotoEcosse]

Yeah a lot of mirrors in general aren't the best, you can get aftermarket add ons that are supposed to show the blind spot but I wouldn't trust them. I always do multiple mirror checks before doing most maneuvers, it's not the first time I've went to do a u turn and some idiot driver comes out of nowhere going way too fast.

[@motorcycleman6898]

@@MotoEcosse Thanks. Just dipping into your video on filtering - not covered much in MOD2.

[@MotoEcosse]

@@motorcycleman6898 yeah a lot of schools don't really teach it. It's more something riders either delve into themselves or by advanced training.

[@chrishewitt4220]

'Lifesavers' are just mandatory... don't care who you are, a beginner, a regular, a returner or Barry Sheene or Mickey Doohan! Just do it!

[@tiggerlator]

just passed mod 1, nice video, i like the chin on shoulder thing and will remember it. subbed

[@MotoEcosse]

Congratulations, Simon and I appreciate the sub. 🤜🤛

[@seton3342]

Do we need to do a lifesaver when passing a parked vehicle? If there are lots of vehicles there can then be a lot of lifesavers 😮

[@MotoEcosse]

Yes as you would need to move the bikes position on the road to pass the vehicle.

[@lucabazookak.2805]

Hi is your facebook name the same as on KZbin? I would like to ask for advice for my test next week thanks

[@martinfarmer846]

Does it matter if I do a lifesaver before indicator

[@jocleobury]

I'm sure he said that the lifesaver is the very last thing you do before manoeuvre 👍

[@10ToGoPro]

@4:00 🫡 SV baby

[@dylanbyne9408]

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