I’ve been a dev for 26 years. Am now a technical architect. I use these tools occasionally but 99% of the time I just use console logging. It’s quick and it’s simple and it does the job the vast majority of of the time.
@LongJourneys4 ай бұрын
LOL me too. I've been doing this since the late 90s. I've tried using all of the newer/more complex tools, and they definitely have their use cases, but console.log is certainly simpler.
@vitorisaia4 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm not alone!
@AbdurrahmanHafez4 ай бұрын
I am a console logger too, but these tips sometime help and save some time
@alexfoxleigh94434 ай бұрын
@@AbdurrahmanHafez Oh yeah, definitely not saying they are useless the force suspense and force error ones are super-useful. I'm just not using most of the debugging tools all that often. Especially breakpoints and IDE debugging. I don't think I've ever used that.
@petrsehnal79904 ай бұрын
@@alexfoxleigh9443 as an architect your focus is probably on much more highlevel concepts than debugging individual react coponents 🙂
@jason_v123454 ай бұрын
Ironically, the more "senior" I get (20 years) the less I feel a need for these things. A few strategically placed console logs tend to be sufficient for most bugs. Impressive though!
@MichaelKire4 ай бұрын
almost 20 years web dev here as well. Rarely use these tools. As you said: a few well places console logs + a great designed system is all you need. if the code however is poorly designed, I can see the need for these tools to help understanding what the f is going on. I once redid an entire label-printing system, because everything was touching and changing global variables on all sorts of weird ways, making it completely impossible to understand what was going on. Maybe one of these debugging tools could have done a difference, but this was even back before nextjs or react was a thing. Maybe even before typescript was a thing, or in its infancy (8-9 years ago).
@khairiyusoff50404 ай бұрын
It's inspiring to see how experience can simplify your workflow! Ironically, as a newbie with 2 years of experience, I find that I often need to rely on all the new tools out there to be a good developer.
@MichaelKire4 ай бұрын
@@khairiyusoff5040 I think its because you get to a point where you know how the code is supposed to behave and know how to code around potential bottlenecks or problematic areas. Which also means that when you do run into bugs, your instincts tell you exactly where the problems might lie and all you need to do is to verify which one of them gives you the wrong data, needs a filter or what it is. But please use the tools you want to use that can help you not only fix the bugs but also learn whats going on “behind the scenes”. That, in my opinion, is one of the most valuable skills to have in this programming world. Knowing something as “simple” as why you cannot add two decimal point numbers together and then expect the result to be correct, or that most react components can and should be done without useEffect, because using useEffects will add several re-renders and you cannot expect the correct data from the get go, delaying everything below it. Essentially in React you are fighting against creating re-renders. There are instances where we actually go “around” some systems and get their data directly from cookie/storage on load, because otherwise we would have to wait on them spinning up first, delaying everything by several renders / miliseconds.
@LukeLogan-xr7pr3 ай бұрын
This is great- Im a senior dev (10 years), but the biggest challenge for debugging react apps now is the number of packages that use context to wrap around the parent component, and screws up normal rendering and react behavior. It can be really challenging to see what caused a re-render: css, context, props, hooks, etc. Then, using refs throughout adds another pile of complexity.
@comboschtapАй бұрын
Yeah, same here... have you tried the ""@welldone-software/why-did-you-render" package? I could not make it work. :/
@shainemamigo71334 ай бұрын
I just wanna say thank you bro , been watching your vids during my days as practicing coding and finally got a junior dev position.
@yt-sh4 ай бұрын
awesome, we need more senior developer type videos
@vishalsinghpanwar29724 ай бұрын
more senior dev type videos please, helps a lot to build intuition, learning right way to think and muscle memory for resolving stuff right from the beginning! Super helpful ❤❤❤❤❤
@Luunaquedateluuna2 ай бұрын
I started learning Javascript and coding in general a year ago. Now I'm working as a junior web dev, all that I've ever needed was and still is console log.
@petarkolev69288 күн бұрын
Just because console.log does the job doesn't mean your debugging is effective enough. Kyle is stressing the fact that with these things your debugging can become way quicker, also if only console.log does the job for you this means your issues that need debugging are basic.
@Alexanderthenotsobad4 ай бұрын
I have been following this "kid" for so long, but I'm only now starting to fully understand all his "black magic". Thank you for all your vids, even the ones I had to watch over and over, and even the ones I could never fully grasp. To all the OGs arguing that they know better because they have long-term experience that trumps modern gadgetry. You're right. Back in the day, we used to set up breaks, and have to manually parse through the code, variables, functions, and the like to see what was what, and what was breaking where. Remember, this is a new generation of coders who grew up with more precise tools. That being said, that's the main reason I have not been able to keep up with a great deal of this modernity. Sometimes a simple console.log does do the trick.
@ken_bekov4 ай бұрын
At last, a useful content without clickbait name. That's why I subscribed this channel initially. Good job!
@philipfisher88534 ай бұрын
😂😂
@HHJoshHH4 ай бұрын
Probably the best actual teaching channel for JS devs besides Dave Gray or Kevin Powell the css master. Great job as always Kyle! Sub 4 life!
@markchen65494 ай бұрын
Thanks, this saved my career as a frontend engineer
@patrykkuniczak25164 ай бұрын
I was using it many times, but i haven't known this tool have that much features. Thank you for this video ❤
@fahadrx8fy4 ай бұрын
Amazing video. I always thought that react dev tools would be kind of hard to use and understand but this video has proved otherwise. Now I find them much easier to learn. thank you.
@issiagaconde4 ай бұрын
Oooooohhhhh yes you're a genius. I was searching for this kind of tutorial. Merci beaucoup ❤❤❤
@vadiks200324 ай бұрын
what exactly is genous about using debugging tools
@yashsharma61124 ай бұрын
Great tips. Loving your videos from past 2 years. Always learns something new
@jason_v123454 ай бұрын
I just commented the same thought. I wonder if it's because with more experience our code tends to be less convoluted and also we have an overall better sense of where the problems likely lie.
@wizardos20114 ай бұрын
Always I learn with yours videos, just the essential and simplify version, good job!!!
@jaydeep-p4 ай бұрын
I never knew react dev tools were so useful!!!
@JuanGómezCarrillo3 ай бұрын
Great job as always!!! I personally would have explained a bit more about the Profiler. There're indeed no really good resources about this tool on the web and having a real-time app analysis would be great and very instructive.
@binhminhtran46054 ай бұрын
Very useful, I use these a lot, if you have a big project with tons of deep-nested components, without these tools it would take you a lot of time to debug, especially when working with Promise and API
@dizzland3 ай бұрын
a Ton of very useful information for getting into React debugging
@collinsk87543 ай бұрын
A master class! Great tutorial!
@darkwoodius4 ай бұрын
Priceless advices, each time. Thanks and congrats mate
@michaelmenard8614Ай бұрын
While I agree with most of the comments (the ones I read) I tend to use logging more often than not... but some times that isn't an option. It is good to have these tools in your browser. I do use the dev tools all the time too.
@genshian4 ай бұрын
Love this! BUT, here is some constructive feedback... Stop with the clickbait titles, and FOMO material to scare people to learn concepts. I have to always filter out so many parts of your messaging in my head to ensure I'm learning this because I want to vs. doing it because I'll be useless otherwise. Focus on more objective content, let your viewers decide the value of it and for you not to state what the industry is based on your personal opinion on how it should be. Your standard is way to high (which is why your content is good), but as I can see in the comments your statements around the industry are just not good for peoples minds. That said, no content like this online rn, so I'll keep watching you!
@dragonburger56764 ай бұрын
Amazing tutorial Kyle! Thank you
@herozero7773 ай бұрын
Thanks man for this great tutorial!
@ViniciusGouveia4 ай бұрын
You're amazing! A big thanks from 🇧🇷
@sadigulbeystudent66644 ай бұрын
I couldn't see the connection between seniority and using dev tools. Great video though. Hope we will see more.
@codercoffeer4 ай бұрын
thanks great video, would love to see videos about how react handles ui updates and more advanced behind the scene stuff
@sanketgawande36674 ай бұрын
Thanks man, great walkthrough.
@codercoffeer4 ай бұрын
thanks great video, would love to see how react works in detail and why sometimes ui delegates
@HenokGebresenbet4 ай бұрын
make sure to watch this video in 0.75 playback speed
@ysilavi4 ай бұрын
Nice job! What colorscheme did you use?
@maxwellcoding2 ай бұрын
Would be awesome to see something similar, but for React Native.
@MaylorTaylor4 ай бұрын
I would love to see these tools on a more robust React app. Like in a more real-world setting
@luanrv003 ай бұрын
it is impossible to pay attention to code editor/web page while you keep bouncing your head on camera. seems those dog dolls to put over a car panel.
@ekchills69484 ай бұрын
Too much knowledge thank youu
@kanstantsinhrytsuk79013 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@carloslfu3 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@not_a_human_being2 ай бұрын
switching off "Strict Mode" is also an option though.
@darshitgajjar5199Ай бұрын
please make more videos brother. I am big fan of u
@88RunnerBlade4 ай бұрын
How do I debug the code inside of Canvas while developing 3D web/apps using Three.js, React-Three-Fiber...?
@upcomingprogrammer62443 ай бұрын
Brother can you suggest me linkedin social login library for React with Typescript which should be freeware and can be used in production. I tried many but none of them are working.
@OgyXD4 ай бұрын
Do you plan on making svelte/sveltekit videos?
@alternate_fantasy4 ай бұрын
Overrated
@BooksWeCanRead4 ай бұрын
This was perfect thanks so much!
@sugo892025 күн бұрын
pro tip. you actually have to start the app (npm start) BEFORE running the debugger.
@SalmanShaikh-q6r4 ай бұрын
can I get any real time application of debugging video or example to large project ?
@tradingwithwill7214Ай бұрын
This isn't working for me. I'm using NextJS. It is server side code at the moment. I tried dev tools, and debugging with node.js server side and it ignores the breakpoints. I have a blog site that converts markdown to static files I tried editing launch.json and next.config.js for source maps etc to no avail.
@petarkolev69288 күн бұрын
Kyle, I really love your work but this head shaking all the time is giving me brain spasms :D Sorry, but I wanted to stress that out :D Great video :)
@mdwahidali60534 ай бұрын
How can we achieve the REACT/NEXTJS debugging in webstorm IDE?
@shivanand02974 ай бұрын
more senior videos please
@blarvinius3 ай бұрын
P.S. Why does strict mode render twice? Really asking...
@ФёдорСёмочкин2 ай бұрын
great video, thank
@XxbankerboomxX4 ай бұрын
Does the nextjs debugger work for the app router?
@channyeintun64114 ай бұрын
Sounds like a click bait. No senior can avoid console log.
@pulkitsharma83844 ай бұрын
why i use components tab , my shows : chunk.... in file name , does anyone have any idea what might be wrong
@harishkhojare15924 ай бұрын
Have you tried project idx?
@mauricenoever4 ай бұрын
Nice, can you make this video with next JS 15 and turbopack? Please
@boomba1184 ай бұрын
awesome content, thank u very much
@trappedcat36154 ай бұрын
Junior, Senior, Manager are just payroll positions. It says nothing of your abilities to debug an app.
@Azurryu4 ай бұрын
I was in a senior position and I'm now at a company where they don't have these imaginary roles. Call me "company fish" or whatever as long it pays fair according to my experience lol.
@null_spacex4 ай бұрын
Typically a junior in any field has just started and a senior is someone who has a lot of experience. Kinda simple really.
@chess49644 ай бұрын
Come on it is just the classification so we know the experience level, dont be so butthurt with the terms.
@ashishboora30494 ай бұрын
That was a click bait for new comers
@ken_bekov4 ай бұрын
What??? Then truck, car, motorcycle are just about fuel consumption. It says nothing about their carrying capacity 😂
@MirkoVukusic4 ай бұрын
I've been successfully avoiding debugging tools and using console log (or variants) for over 30 years now :) Trust me, you get much more efficient with it than you think. (im not saying more than with debugging tools)
@SantoshKori26024 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@Mari_Selalu_Berbuat_Kebaikan4 ай бұрын
Let's always do alot of good ❤ Nam myoho renge kyo
@user-ev6fj5up9w4 ай бұрын
Bro create Penpot plugins 🎉
@Ahmed-fq3kz3 ай бұрын
Thanks alot
@muhammedshahanashussain218122 күн бұрын
Can you please do the video of next js convert to electron js latest video
@alirezamohammadi96914 ай бұрын
thanks a lot for all of your usefull toturials❤,please create react hook form toturial, guys please like this comments if you wnat it to
@faizanhaider4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@davidgibradze96924 ай бұрын
Hi from Georgia🇬🇪 Can you show us your setup?👀💻🖥
@PiyushAggarwal-hz9es4 ай бұрын
Great stuff
@mq54324 ай бұрын
Bro this head will fall off one day I tell you💀
@rendivs4 ай бұрын
thanks kyle
@John-uz3yuАй бұрын
This youtube channel is more about selling courses that doesn't really work in real life!
@nicklowe_4 ай бұрын
Senior dev here, never needed more than console logs in 3 years of tech leading
@vigikaran4 ай бұрын
The tools he is explaining are for productive senior devs. not for the classic senior devs
@nicklowe_4 ай бұрын
@@vigikaran aww you’re cute
@ubaidkhan4264 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@erichepperlewp4 ай бұрын
I could have used this video in 2021 when I contracted for Facebook and there was really zero help from management on debugging React
@learningwithaaron4 ай бұрын
u forgot to say sooner at the start "start building your dream projects SOONER" lol
@lamhung48994 ай бұрын
Stop shaking your head
@dijiflex4 ай бұрын
This was helpful
@shinauri13 ай бұрын
Please stop shaking your head only!
@StarGazerTrek24 күн бұрын
@WebDevSimplified I apologize for writing this, I noticed your eyes, especially the left one, is starting to twitch more and more. I recognize fatigue when I see one, I've been there and I did not took measure when I had to, now I am with Menier disease and I cannot fix it for the rest of my life. I do enjoy your content, but I urge you to go make some medical tests and check for Menier disease as well, eye sight and hearing. They are related... Take care my friend and good health to you.
@arti2564 ай бұрын
awesome
@CrAzZyKiLleR014 ай бұрын
React is a pain. Pain to use and debug.
@GonnaLoveThis3 ай бұрын
my experience is that these tools have bugs sometimes😢.
@sudhanshugautam4254 ай бұрын
4:11 u got me here😂😂 (only Indians will understand)
@i3looi24 ай бұрын
Pro TIP: If you don't use REACT, you won't need to debug react. Until next time 🏃
@sebassalgadoАй бұрын
thanks for your help, but please do something with that nervous head movement of yours. or at least, don't put your face on the video. do we need it?
@yellowboat87734 ай бұрын
You got 1.5 million subs but the vids are 20k views with a bunch of ai spam in the comments, what up woth that
@sssrikanthhh4 ай бұрын
❤
@krakatoom4 ай бұрын
Not that Vue js had vue devtools for months.... lol jk. All is Javascript in its core😊
@hosting-sample4 ай бұрын
Hi @kyle if possible could be little bit slow like what I feel is your speaking too fast so unable to follow you
@darckhelmi57373 ай бұрын
bro i like your content but please stop moving your head .
@utkarshdhiman96802 ай бұрын
😆
@hannai22022 ай бұрын
I spray you 😂😂😂
@arkansavalder4 ай бұрын
Chat gpt can debug it faster and solve it as well
@27sosite734 ай бұрын
no, it cant
@honeybadger06124 ай бұрын
Panjabi head live
@froggy4724 ай бұрын
3 mins
@shahbazjavedqureshi2 ай бұрын
go easy on stimulants my man, it's becoming very apparent. great video otherwise!
@kashmirtechtv2948Ай бұрын
please hide your face... that will be agreat improvement or zoom out a little bit
@andrews43794 ай бұрын
There is no senior ... It's scam 😂 you can work 40 years.. and can be junior 😆😆
@Orcanos4 ай бұрын
low quality indian style videos as always
@trenev4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the helpful video, Kyle. Awesome like always. In my Vite React app my source shows as "chunk-XYQJLCXN.js?v=2ca49224:41998" or other random characters instead of the actual file name. Why does this happen and how do i address it?