how to dig up tree stumps with a small tractor backhoe

[@HoneyBeagle]

This is a great video! I’ve been digging up some Cherry trees that probably aren’t half that size but with a subcompact. I’ve noticed how much it torques the outriggers trying to dig cross ways. This is far better I’ll be doing this now thanks for saving my machine from an idiot!

[@daveknowshow]

I bent my the dipper cylinder a couple months ago. these things will self destruct if you are not careful.

[@lisajohnson8566]

I think your advice at the end is the best, "take your time and be careful". I just bought an LS MT125 and you have to acknowledge that it is a small machine and seeing that broken cylinder will remind me to "take my time and be careful". Thank you for the video. Great instruction.

[@daveknowshow]

thank you for taking your time to watch and comment. yes you are 100% correct seeing a broken cylinder is a great reminder to not expect more out of our machines than they can safely deliver. again thanks for the kind words.

[@livelife4471]

You demonstrate a very good technique - room the soil from around the tree roots. Thank you.

[@daveknowshow]

thank you for stopping bye

[@gebronthomasson6960]

Thanks..about to pick a used tractor today with a backhoe and this is a project i will be tackling..

[@daveknowshow]

take her slow and dont expect to do this fast. if you push a hand shovel in the ground and pry real hard it will break the shovel. the same applies for these hoes. if you try to brute force objects with these they will snap, break bend. even knowing this myself I just bent another cylinder about a month ago on this very hoe. did it digging out a tree a very small tree more like a sapling than a tree. the more chrome you see on the cylinders the more likely it will bend or break. a retracted cylinder will be less likely to break. hope that makes sense.

[@gebronthomasson6960]

@@daveknowshow thanks for insight..bought the tractor and will be “playing”around with it before tackling the stump

[@valerieg.1232]

Thank you, Dave. I will have my new tractor and backhoe in a couple of weeks. I have some learning to do and some simple tasks before I tackle the three I need to remove, and your video goes a long way in my learning the best way to do that. As a teacher I appreciate that there will always be some who knows more then I about any given task. In this case, nearly everyone knows more than I do about removing a stump... until now, as I learned a lot from your video. Thank you so much for taking the time to create this video!

[@daveknowshow]

always happy to help and thank you for your service to the students in your care.

[@rayeddy528]

I am going back and watching your older videos . Dave you have a blessed talent for doing these informative and carried out videos! Thank you!!! Be safe and God bless you and your family!!!!!!

[@daveknowshow]

Ray, I owe all my talents to the Lord. I'm still learning this youtube video stuff and I hope to get better at it as I go a long. be blessed my friend.

[@acreageliving]

great tips,, just got a Massey GC1710 with a small backhoe on it and removed 4 large stumps and followed some of your great advice! Thanks

[@daveknowshow]

awesome I love hearing from folks when the video help them. you will really enjoy that massey its a super nice beast of a tractor!

[@larrykillebrew2675]

So very glad you posted this video! It has been years since I’ve been around backhoes! Needless to say, you likely saved me from a costly mistake, just because, I wouldn’t have known better. Experience is the best teacher, many are injured because of that teacher! I’ll learn from you!

[@daveknowshow]

I really appreciate the kind words. I have seen a few things broken in my life span. lol some were clearly my fault and I try to be careful.

[@tractorman4461]

Great video filled with a ton of tips. Brandon is a lucky young man to have found a mentor to lead him down the right path. He's learning valuable lessons about hard work as well as picking up skills that he will improve over time. Knowledge and information really is not ours to hold onto and hoard...it really IS ours to pass on to another. On another note, It is hard to gauge the weight of root wads vs a tree trunk.

[@daveknowshow]

you right about that I had no idea this thing would weigh this much. I would never know all the things I learned over the years with out those tradesman that shared with me. us tradesmen are a dying breed or so it seems.

[@truckerray7533]

Awsome video. this is how i dig out my treestumps with my JohnDeere 2025R sub compact tractor. i go completly around the tree, digging along the tree roots to loose & free them up.

[@daveknowshow]

your tractor will last you a lifetime plus! love them JD tractors. we just need to keep in mine our machinery is fragile and can be broken if we dont take care of them.

[@keithrayeski3147]

Great video! New subscriber. I don’t own a kubota but, the principles and technology is I think similar enough for about any tractor. I’m looking forward to seeing some more of your stuff. What a great relationship to have with that young man… I can tell you’re teaching him Christian values and morals…so many young men and boys don’t get that today…our republic needs that back! Really enjoyed this…patience is worth much more than the cost of fixing a rig pushed beyond its intended limits and purpose. 🙏🏻👊🏻🇺🇸

[@daveknowshow]

you are 100% right! that young man has gone on to become a diesel mechanic for Caterpillar. I'm very proud of him! he still checks on me from time to time.

[@richardspengel5360]

Absolutely great commentary! I dug up one even bigger than this (was over 100' tall before being cut) in our front yard in Seattle when I was a teenager almost 60 years ago. I used a pick, shovel and a handsaw and it took me several months. I like your method better! Still, my feeling of triumph probably exceeded yours.

[@daveknowshow]

for real those days of hand digging did serve to enhance the feeling of success. when ever I go do a tractor job like brush hogging a field or digging a trench before I price the job I think about what I would charge if I was doing it by hand. then I have a better idea of what the job is truly worth. people think just because you have the equipment to make fast easier work of it they should get it cheaper for some reason.

[@kerrinbressant302]

I watch a lot of tractor videos and this one is in my top 5. Very informative. You are a natural "narrator" when it comes to describing the action. I guess you could be a "play-by-play" guy like in baseball. I like how you mixed in the fast speed video with the real-time video. Also, very nice shout out to your young neighbor. Its great that you can teach him some useful stuff for him to use later on in life.

[@daveknowshow]

thank you so very much for the kind and thoughtful words. I appreciate you taking your time to watch my videos. I also watch many other channels on youtube and marvel in amazement at all the talented creators on here. my young friend Brandon has been a true blessing. even as he is growing up and older he still text me regularly and checks on me. I have enjoyed having him around helping him with school home work and school projects. " some of which I have learned a thing or two myself ".

[@howardfortyfive9676]

Yeah I liked that too. Young guy like him knowing runnin tractors welding he's building a skill set city kids ain't likely 2 get. New sub due to old pal 30yr ago name of DAVE. We'd off road and stuff. He liked 44Mags. I liked camping. 1 of the best times I eva had was *20min on a BIG OLD UGLY SKIDDER. 12 oclock was forward 3 was right & so forth. Top speed 1.5-2MPH IT WAS A HOOT!!!*

[@carlapplebaum3014]

Good job! There is one additional tool that would speed up the process. A cordless Sawzall with a pruning blade is great for cutting roots once you have them exposed. A chainsaw would theoretically be faster for this, but the chain quickly goes dull in the dirt. The Sawzall blades are less finicky, and besides are quick to change out, and relatively cheap. My wife and I work together on this, dig and cut, dig and cut, until the beast starts to budge. Sometimes it helps to pry sideways on a big root after it's been cut or broken, so that you rotate the stump horizontally, and tear out other roots. With our small BX25D tractor, it really helps to take a load of dirt and rocks in the loader bucket as a counterweight. Your just have to vary your approach, depending on the situation. We've removed a lot of big stumps, here in the northwest rainforest.

[@daveknowshow]

sounds like you two make a great team! its nice to hear when husbands and wives work together on these fun projects.

[@jimmyv6310]

Thank You Dave! I have an oak stump that had 4 full size trees growing out of it that i need to dig out for my new pole barn. It will be my first one with my B2650. Really appreciate this!

[@daveknowshow]

the kubota can handle it that B2650 is a beast of a tractor. just work with in its limits and you will be fine! thanks for watching and thanks for the comments. have fun diggin dirt my brother!

[@chuckm482]

Thank you ... VERY well explained. I really like it when you do the commentaries while reviewing your own video.

[@daveknowshow]

thank you very much for the kind words. sometimes I think the commentaries help me as well since I can go back and see what I did knowing what I was thinking and ultimately how it turned out. its not always a good end result. I tore off a gutter messing with a tree last year. lol could have been worse though. lol

[@1811bruce]

Good job Dave. I have a J.D. 4300 Hyd 4x4 with a Woods backhoe on it. Have dug a many of them, have some waiting for me now! Have had it since 2000 and haven't had the 1st problem with it. But like you said with it being on the smaller side you just have to have some common sense! I really enjoy your videos.

[@daveknowshow]

I'm a huge fan of the 4300. I had look at those a lot but at the time I could not afford one at all. in later years I bought a JD 790 which was also one of my favorite smaller JD products. I'm gonna subscribe to your channel incase you get a notion to upload some video of the 4300 I'd love to see some footage of it in action. sure do appreciate you watching my videos! peace love and respect brother!

[@concernedcanadian8460]

Good video! I've got a little bx25 that I've been digging up a bunch of stumps from hurricane Fiona damage lately. It's amazing how big of a stump it's capable of removing if you take your time.

[@daveknowshow]

so very true these machines used with common sense can get a ton of work done actually fairly fast for their size. sure beats a shovel!

[@sharonsimpson1145]

thank you for this video! Very helpful information. VERY much appreciated! Just got a backhoe attachment and you just helped me avoid some very big problems in the future!

[@pondacres]

Neighbor Brandon is a lucky kid, wish I had a neighbor like he does when I was kid, teaching me cool stuff.

[@daveknowshow]

he is a mess! he just turned 19 years old!!! holy crap I cant believe it, where has the time gone? I think many of the kids in this neighborhood have enjoyed coming here and playing with tools machinery go karts and dirt bikes or going out on my old sky boat with my son and I. its nice when I see these young men all grown up and they speak to me when they see me in various places. makes me feel special and good and we all enjoy feeling special and we all want to feel good. I love my neighbors they are my family in many ways better than family.

[@pondacres]

Well man, sounds like you "know how" to treat people right, and you get likewise. ;) Thanks for all the great vids, Dave!

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Good video. Very informative. I enjoyed it👍

[@daveknowshow]

glad you enjoyed it nice having you stop by. I seen your post on facebook and was just looking at your channel as well.

[@duncanpotter5838]

Thanks for the great pointers! I have a BX25D and have removed a couple of small trees - but this will definitely help when I get to some bigger ones. Very helpful!

[@daveknowshow]

yes for sure it has helped me as well. I cant afford any large expensive repairs these days.

[@dannyhinson9788]

Very good information on not over stressing a machine, you can do almost anything with a backhoe.The picture at the beginning shows a bent RAM,they are hardened and should break not bend.

[@daveknowshow]

yes you are 100% correct, and it did break. he just set it back together to show the extreme it bent just as it snapped off.

[@thatbiguy1975]

im always amazed at the weight of the rootball/stumps ive dug out. this one you have here is definitely a monster. thanks for sharing.

[@daveknowshow]

yes it was a monster for sure really to large for a tractor but I wanted to show that with a little time and technique even the monster stumps can be slain by even the modest of tractors. peace love and respect, may you have a blessed Christmas holiday season! Dave

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Great video, nice to be passing the craft to the next generation as well. Us old guys have to give the kids coming up the skills they need for the future. You would be amazed at how many can not operate a come-a-long. I watched a guy mess with his using one hand to hold the spring down, and the other to crank the handle. I walked over, and showed him how to switch it with the spring.... "Wow, thats a lot easier!" ;-)

[@daveknowshow]

LOL yeah its nice to be able to share skills with Brandon. he is a very thoughtful young man. calls and checks on me quite often. I'm sure once he starts driving and dating I wont see as much of him but the memories of coming to our house will last him a life time. I know this because I had a mentor that helped me with things along life's journey. he is in his 80's now and we still are very close. I go get him and take him to tournaments and stuff. we always have a good time.

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Yea, I think everyone needs a mentor like that. I had a guy like that years back, and I try to do the same thing for my grandson, you can't learn, if no one teaches you.

[@daveknowshow]

so true and you don't realize how much someone has taught you sometimes, until years later.

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Ha! ha! Thats so true, I wish I could go back in time and listen a little more carefully, I'm sure I missed more than I gathered.

[@daveknowshow]

one thing I'm very proud of is I recognized early enough to thank those who took time to show me things. the look on those old timers faces when I reached out shook their hand and thanked them was priceless.

[@quintonriley3468]

My dad and granddad were in the grading business and I've been doing the same thing for 20 years. I've been on a backhoe since I was born pretty much. I operate excavators so much now that I forget what people used to go thru with small 2 wheel drive backhoes. Man it used to be a slow process. I take down huge trees in minutes and only dig around the really big ones. All my granddad had was Ford 555 2 wheel drive backhoes. I cut my teeth on um and still enjoy to run um but I'll take a 325 cat excavator any day for clearing and stumping. Looks like Dave is a really good operator tho! And fast too man that thing was moving!! hah!

[@daveknowshow]

quinton riley sounds like you been a dirt digger for a long time. Nice to have you stop by my channel. Thanks for the great comment!

[@skunkedagain]

Great tips on how to properly do this. Thank you

[@daveknowshow]

thank you for the kind words and i really appreciate your support.

[@unwrektwrekt1751]

Hey Dave, I just finished pulling out a pretty large Boxelder tree stump that has been giving us fits for a year or so. Your video was very helpful in getting it out. The one thing that caused us a bit of head scratching, was that the hole was so deep, and the stump was so heavy, we couldn't figure out how to get the stump out of the hole. If I tried lifting it with the hoe, the machine would just tip over! So after a bit I realized that if I dozed the dirt back into the hole, and jostled the stump around, the dirt would fill in under the stump--basically floating it on top of the dirt. So we just pushed the dirt back into the hole, knocked the stump around, more dirt, more jostling, and then we finally just dragged it off.

[@daveknowshow]

yes in deed that is how you deal with those deep holes. its slow and you hope it dont come to that. glad you figured that out and I should have added that in the video. I voice overed this video like three times or more. lol I kept leaving out stuff or missing my mark. perhaps I'll do a part two in the future. thanks for watching and for sharing. that tree must have had a long tap root. I did one last year that had a 6 foot deep tap root. I had to get in the hole and dig by hand cause the hoe was to the point it could not reach due to the diameter of the hole.

[@BroncoColdsteel]

great video - thank-you. Your neighbor probably really appreciates and benefits from your guidance. cheers to you both

[@daveknowshow]

he is a fine young man about to turn 18 its been real nice to help him along that road.

[@sstritmatter2158]

Great video and very useful.

[@daveknowshow]

thanks I just seen where tractortime with tim just messed up his cylinder. cost him over a thousand bucks!

[@marcryvon]

Nice instructive video ! I guess the secret is take your time and THINK ! I dont have a tractor nor backhoe but I had to take down some overgrown trees (in the Montreal suburbs ) on my lot. I used a winch as you did after I cut the main roots only to find out a lot of smaller roots were holding on solid. I used my medium size pressure washer to clean the heavy clay dirt out of the roots clump and free the damn things. It worked !

[@daveknowshow]

yes, excellent I have also used a power washer to clear dirt from roots and it helps a lot! make a mess but it works! thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. hope your weekend is going very well.

[@n2daair23]

Great channel man! Your control of that BH is definitely inspiring as someday I hope to be half that good. Thanks!

[@daveknowshow]

thanks its so much fun its hard not to practice. lol

[@gregorylaughlin2556]

Really good advice. Some other videos have the operators 'attacking' the tree..full throttle, jerky. This is good.

[@daveknowshow]

these tractors are very strong but just like we as humans are strong they are also fragile when stressed. I'm thrilled to see your enjoying my videos. thank you so much! :)

[@Caje-zf8md]

Just last week I took out some jack pine stumps with my old Case 450 trackloader with a 4-in-1 bucket. They came out fairly easy but then I came across an oak that would not budge. A few years ago I found an old Case backhoe attachment for the crawler and I reasoned that a narrow, 12-inch bucket would tear through the roots a lot easier than the standard 24-inch bucket. Once I get it the hoe plumbed and mounted, I'm going to find out if that oak wants to come out or not.

[@daveknowshow]

I agree 100% I bought a narrow trenching bucket and that thing rips through roots really well compared to my 16 inch bucket.

[@doc559]

Really is true that patience is a rare virtue.👍 Great video. THANKS for sharing.

[@daveknowshow]

Thank you for taking your time to watch my video. I hope your having a great weekend!

[@richardhowe2370]

I was hoping to dig up some stumps. After watching this video, I think I will try to cut it below the ground line and cover it with dirt. Really big hole. Cool video though. Thanks.

[@daveknowshow]

its hard to dig up a low stump. yes it does make a big hole. however the dirt cleaned off the stump filled my hole in entirely. does not always work out like that though.

[@hphillips7425]

Good video 👍. Lesson here is use your equipment smart and use the money saved for a cold beer to celebrate a job well done

[@daveknowshow]

absolutely 100% correct! work smart not hard and that include not hard on your machine. enjoy the beers!

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Good Evening Dave ( times 2 ) LOL Very helpful tips and thank you kindly again to teaching us ! You're a very good technical teacher !!! CHeers !

[@daveknowshow]

thank you twice for stopping by in one day. lol ha ha. I just hope this will save someone " including myself " from damaging their backhoe. most of the time I make these videos to remind myself what NOT to do as much as to share with others what to do.

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

@@daveknowshow That is very good of you that taking the time for sharing the professional advice that you learn !!! Cheers ! Love you CJ 5 Jeep !

[@appstate1996]

Thank you for the video. I'm looking to purchase my first tractor and one of the chores I need to use it for is to dig up several stumps around 12" in diameter. I don't want to tear it up like that example you showed. The other chores are maintaining a drainage ditch, mowing (5 acres) and maintaining a 500' gravel driveway. What HP/PTO tractor should I be looking for?

[@daveknowshow]

bigger the better! but anything from a L2501 up. I like the L47 series, but the M and MX series are really nice machines as well. huge difference between say a L2501 and the other machines mentioned. weight horsepower and lift capacity all come into play. long driveways with hills require more weight and therefore more horsepower. hope this helps.

[@equalopportunityoffender6732]

Daves Stump Removal & Root Drinking Game. Every time Dave says the word 'root' take a shot of your favorite alcoholic beverage. Last man / woman standing is declared the WINNER !!! Good Luck

[@daveknowshow]

lol if it helps get to the ROOT of the problem then DRINK ON! lol

[@equalopportunityoffender6732]

PSA - Do NOT operate heavy while under the influence of alcohol. Thank you

[@daveknowshow]

lol very true.

[@rickleg2944]

Dave do you have a video of you moving the back hoe controls side by side with the back how movement. I don’t have a back hoe yet but would like to see the control movements required to do what you showed in this video or similar. Great video and explanation. Thank you.

[@daveknowshow]

I don’t but maybe I can do one in the future. It takes about 8hours of use to get the movement down to memory. After that you do it with out thinking about it.

[@billparker5077]

Great video. I am grateful for people who share there knowledge only to help others. I wasn't sure if a compact backhoe could take on this size task. Be well friend.

[@daveknowshow]

thank you for taking your time to watch my videos. digging up trees and stumps is one of the hardest task you can ask of your tractor, loader or backhoe. this is why its so important to use it as a tool to work with in a fashion to not damage the unit. you can dig up many things with your hand and a regular shovel. however if you simply jam the shovel in there and pry it over you will likely break the shovel. same with these tractors, take your time and use it like a hand shovel. dig around loosen it up and get the job done safely with no damage to your equipment. so glad you found my video useful! be blessed my friend.

[@jeffreid3341]

I've dug up trees this size with my bx23s. It just takes patience and a lot of scoops.

[@DS-lg2jb]

Great job!!!!! Dave and a good lesson

[@daveknowshow]

yes a great lesson for me as well. we all learn together as we make mistakes. that why I know so much I have made a lot of mistakes! lol ha ha

[@EugeneCapeder]

Well done, I appreciate your attention to details.

[@daveknowshow]

always glad to help

[@portedadrien9293]

Thank for you nice trick for removing stumps, It will avoid me some problem! Have a nice day! Adrien

[@daveknowshow]

Portedadrien glad to help my friend be sure and check out my many other tractor related videos.

[@davidr3246]

Great video and commentary. I learned a lot from you.

[@daveknowshow]

thank David so glad you found my channel I hope you find many valuable videos here. I really appreciate you taking your time to watch my videos. peace love and respect Dave in Virginia

[@jheissjr]

Great instructions! What size chain hoist pulled the tree over? 2 ton, 3 ton, 5 ton?

[@daveknowshow]

2 ton

[@robbiefrentz9427]

Learned a lot thank you. Very informative

[@daveknowshow]

thank you I'm glad you found it useful and thanks for stopping by my channel.

[@mikestill5819]

thanks for the tutorial, love that CJ in the background.

[@daveknowshow]

yeah the old CJ went to the scrap yard. hated to see it happen but another tree fell on it and she was pretty much destroyed.

[@robertbohannan2255]

Another good video Dave. Don't have backhoe on my BX but to look down there and see that cylinder bent almost double would be a real kick in the gut. Lol. Be safe

[@daveknowshow]

Amen to that. I hope it never happens to me. yikes

[@bigwilly8746]

thanks for sharing. i'd love to see a tutorial on how you process the tree & fill the hole, grade, etc.

[@daveknowshow]

perhaps in the future I can do one. right now I'm trying to recover from cancer and I'm not able to do much work like that. its hard to even be on the tractor most of the time.

[@bigwilly8746]

daveknowshow Get well soon. I had a cancer battle in 2009! Testicular cancer. Stay positive & happy new year.

[@daveknowshow]

thanks brother hope you stay well and healthy peace love and respect!

[@imysteryman]

Most people decide to try and get a stump out after they cut the tree off down low, you did it the right way with the equipment you have to use. As for the bucket cylinder, you have to be careful when the bucket is curled a lot because that is when the cylinder is extended. Nice job on getting a large stump out, a lot can be done with a small tractor it just takes some thought and a little time. Not to mention it is kinda fun. Be safe

[@daveknowshow]

for sure lots of fun!

[@mdavenpo]

Is there a video of what you did with the stump afterwards? Did you break it down further and burn it?

[@daveknowshow]

right now its sitting in the woods still waiting to be burned. lol

[@kbkesq]

Sound advice. As pilots say: learn from the mistakes of others, because you won’t live Long enough to learn from all the mistakes yourself!

[@daveknowshow]

exactly!

[@berniepokorski2489]

Great Job! Thanks for posting this video....that tree Could Have Been A Real Widow-Maker!

[@daveknowshow]

yes she was in bad shape. made decent fire wood though I actually burned right much of it this year. still got plenty left.

[@billyhicks5265]

Good job and advice Dave.

[@houndsmanone4563]

Dave, I'm doing some backhoe work and it's a bear, brother. Most of the trees have a tap-root (loblolly pines) and I think it will take a year to clear all these roots. I wish you would have a made a video on trees with tap-roots. I am not proficient with the backhoe but I have a feeling I'm gonna be real good after 10-12 tree roots. Whew! Wish me some luck! 😯

[@daveknowshow]

you know funny you mentioned that I had to remove one here that was just a tiny little tree but it had a tap root that went three feet plus deep! took me a while to get that thing out and afterwards I wish I had of video taped that one. it was bay far the worse one I have ever tackled. enjoy the seat time brother!

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

Cleared land for a barn lot, had many like that, we used heavy cable 5 to 1 mechanical advantage and a Titan Stump bucket on the tractor

[@daveknowshow]

man I would love to have a 5 to 1 set up I seen some youtube videos on mechanical advantages and that guy really knows his stuff!

[@olddirtyburt7522]

Excellent instruction. Great job

[@daveknowshow]

thanks for the kind words, hope you are doing well!

[@100PercentOS2]

Thanks. Great advice. I've been reluctant to dig out a tree trunk on my property, but maybe I will do it now. Before I got my used compact tractor some one caused the crowd boom cylinder to bend and I had to get it replaced.

[@daveknowshow]

100PercentOS2 just take your time and be safe.

[@100PercentOS2]

Thanks

[@ScoutCrafter]

Awesome job Dave! 😃👍

[@daveknowshow]

thanks man. I didnt think I'd ever get that tree to fall.

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Good advice! Done a few big ones the same way with my BX23, a baby compared to your Kubota

[@daveknowshow]

its amazing what these small tractors can do with a little strategy. thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching my video.

[@daveknowshow]

its amazing what these small tractors can do with a little strategy. thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching my video.

[@bayareasparky9180]

Sorry to hear about your dying oaks. I've taken down several California Live Oaks to put in a garden and the root structure on these trees is crazy because they are a drought resistant species. I realized over time that I was setting up too close to the stump. I'm gonna try your advice. How many hours did it take for you to dig and fell this stump? Thanks.

[@daveknowshow]

three hours total according to the video footage. may have been a tad longer or shorter as I did stop for breaks.

[@Clarke1962gmc]

Great advice Dave... What model tractor and backhoe did you use in the video?

[@daveknowshow]

this is a L2800 with a BH75 hoe seems to function very well.

[@Clarke1962gmc]

daveknowshow I have a L3130 with LA723 loader and am curious how similar your backhoe is compared to the BL4690B? I can’t make the BH90 work for various reasons.

[@daveknowshow]

@@Clarke1962gmc is the bl4690B the kubota factory hoe that fits the L3130? if it is I can try to look it up and see if I can see any obvious differences. if not I can take some measurements off my BH75 and get them to you.

[@Clarke1962gmc]

daveknowshow yes, there were two options, which are the two I listed... However, I can’t find much on the web BL4690, except lots of concerns around 3 point attachment versus the frame mounted BH90. The BL4690 is a 7.5 foot backhoe, but curious how it compares to yours? I only need something to dig trenches for utilities in ground with clay and small rock.

[@MattN03]

Dave, shouldn't the hydraulic relief kick in before any harm to the cylinder should occur? I've been using my B3200/BH76 to dig out a bunch of stumps, and don't want to have an issue.

[@daveknowshow]

you nailed it! and that will be one of my next videos i'm working on explaining how a relief can fail and allow this to happen. be careful! if your relief is working properly you will be fine but the second it fails at the wrong time this will likely happen. thats why its best practice that we use these back hoes like a hand shovel. you know if you try and pry up a stump or root with a hand shovel the shovel will break! if we use that shovel to dig the dirt out and break each root with out prying the root and stressing our "power shovel" AKA "the backhoe" then we will be fine. again be careful! this guy had no indication that he was about to snap that cylinder. edit: oh yea GREAT COMMENT!

[@MattN03]

I'm looking forward to your video. Hopefully there are ways to monitor the relief to ensure its functioning properly before failure.

[@BobWilson84]

Great work and excellent advice !!

[@daveknowshow]

Thanks Bob glad you enjoyed it hope you will consider subscribing if you have not already subscribed. lots of video on tractor use on my channel. really appreciate the kind words.

[@hyzercreek]

It helps a lot to let the stump rot a couple of years like this. I noticed the roots were rotted so they broke easily. A freshly cut tree would be MUCH harder because the roots don't break off at all.

[@daveknowshow]

actually this tree just died 6 months before. I dug it out the end of winter. the roots really did not break easy unless I dug out far and around them where the roots were thinner. its irrelevant whether the tree is live or dead the technique is the same dig out far away from the tree where roots are thinner. uncover the roots on all sides and under so they can be broken easier. if this tree was as rotten as you make out it was I would not have needed to dig out far away or under and around each root in my opinion. thanks for the comments.

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

Dave, it works well, however you need 2 strong sons to set it all up, dragging all the heavy cables and blocks are very tiring, Willing to sell the setup if interested

[@daveknowshow]

thats my problem trying to move all that stuff around at my age is no fun! I keep forgetting and I think I'm 16. then my back tells me otherwise. lol

[@daveknowshow]

thats my problem trying to move all that stuff around at my age is no fun! I keep forgetting and I think I'm 16. then my back tells me otherwise. lol

[@peanutman6593]

Did I miss something? Where is the video showing the damage being done to the ram cylinder?

[@daveknowshow]

its not here in this video. this merely was showing what can happen and how to avoid it. these tractors are not as tough as we like to think they are. I can break just about anything. lol

[@toddgeorge1569]

Do you keep your tractor in gear or neutral?? Thank you

[@yewwtooob]

You have VERY easy dirt. We grow rocks in Arkansas.

[@daveknowshow]

lol ha ha yeah we have some rocky areas around here as well. its not fun digging rocks I must admit. thanks for stopping by

[@homemade6015]

Hi dave, i snaps my, do you know where to get the part for a good price? Just the rod is what I need.👍

[@daveknowshow]

most any ,machine shop can order the rod and weld the end on one end and thread the other end for the other parts to bolt onto. mcmastercarr dot com likely has the chromoly rod but it will be unfinished. like I said you will need to thread one end and weld up the other. hope that helps.

[@tyalcin58]

Hi. How many tons of chain hoist do you use in the video?

[@daveknowshow]

2 ton but I could have used less.

[@tyalcin58]

@@daveknowshow I got three tons. Hooray :)

[@joerarey8496]

Thanks for the video!

[@daveknowshow]

Very welcome

[@skroggy66]

Great video, always better to learn off someone else's mistakes.

[@daveknowshow]

a lot cheaper to learn of someone else's mistakes as well.

[@rodbagley1686]

Dud I miss something? How did the backhoe cylinder get bent?

[@daveknowshow]

the boom cylinder is typically larger than the bucket and the dipper cylinders. so if you can see a lot of chrome rod sticking out at the bucket or dipper cylinders and you pull up on the boom cylinder one of the two will likely bend or break.

[@chadmilliser1]

Everytime I see somone using come alongs I think of the time I used a set . They broke and the chain took me right out . Left perfect chain marks on my back for a month . I use straps now . But I try and shy away from using them at all .

[@daveknowshow]

they are extremely dangerous and you really have to be careful when using them. I have never broken a chain either dumb luck or I'm overly cautious maybe a little of both.

[@howardfortyfive9676]

In 98 got a temp job cuz a man got both legs broke when a cable busted under stress. Murphy's Law. Worked there till 08. Learned more on Tractors Case580L & my FAVE *SNOW PUSHIN'* Up here we call it plowing. We all got scars Chad. Learn from em or don't...

[@danielchambers1958]

Thanks my friend.... good stuff!!!

[@daveknowshow]

thanks for dropping by good to see you.

[@danielchambers1958]

@@daveknowshow My neighbor and I discussed a backhoe last night for my B2650 and your video came up in my search. Appreciate the info . . . he needs to clear his land.

[@daveknowshow]

@@danielchambers1958 I cant imagine having a tractor and not having a backhoe to go on it. I use mine so much its crazy how much I use it. I built a quick attach for the bucket so it speeds up changing buckets. bought that trencher bucket from BXPANDED and man that thing is sweet!

[@TF856]

How could that small root possibly have damaged that piston rod? It looks like that piston rods was made out of defective metal. Tractors are designed so that they cannot destroy themselves that easily.

[@daveknowshow]

actually, these machines can easily destroy themselves. they are far more powerful and fragile than we like to admit.

[@apachurraleproduccion9490]

How did you destroy it ( get rid of it?) Did you burn it with diesel fuel?

[@daveknowshow]

nope the tree was cut into fire wood and the stump was pushed into the woods to rot away. I may burn it in the future.

[@markfullersbackhoeprojects3583]

Nice backhoe work!

[@daveknowshow]

thanks Mark good to hear from you and hope you are doing well.

[@markfullersbackhoeprojects3583]

@@daveknowshowI hope you are doing well too

[@daveknowshow]

@@markfullersbackhoeprojects3583 is the backhoe still running?

[@markfullersbackhoeprojects3583]

@@daveknowshowUnfortunately I had to sell .

[@daveknowshow]

@@markfullersbackhoeprojects3583 sorry to hear that. I miss those old videos you use to do. your channel was growing pretty strong.

[@Greebus1]

I use a trenching bucket for stumps. Seems easier than the bigger bucket.

[@daveknowshow]

I agree I picked up a bxpanded trenching bucket and its really nice on stumps and especially small saplings.

[@tonywillingham8109]

How did you move the root ball?

[@daveknowshow]

pallet forks went under tilt back and push it across the lawn to the woods. she is still sitting there. once its good and dry I may set that beast on fire with some other brush and let it burn a few days.

[@matteckert6676]

How long did that take to dig out in real time? Im still learning a backhoe i just picked up and spent two hours working on a stump and still dont have it out yet

[@daveknowshow]

this took a few hours. I never rush digging stumps. asking our tractors to dig stumps is asking a lot of them. they really are not designed to dig stumps. more for trenching and such. we all do it though just take your time so you dont stress your machine.

[@Lunch_Peak]

A few hours of your time is always going to be cheaper then hiring someone to come in and do it slightly more quickly! Plus its more satisfying ;)

[@kenrolltideAlabama]

I use to dig them up untile some one showed me how easy it is to pull a tree over with its on weight, I just went and bought 3/8 in cable or bigger according to your job. but get you something like a bow with spider wire tied to the arrow and shot it over a limb 3/4 ths the way up the tree and pull cable back down and run the end through the eye and pull tight around tree and make sure you have sheets or quilt type stuff wrapped around that cable like ever 20n feet or so in case it brakes so it want fly back and hit you, but my exsperance is they pull over really easy with a average tractor. just be very careful because you can kill yourself when working with heavy equipment of heavy stuff. safety first is being a smart man. Has anyone else had any exsperance with this. having at least 50 yards of cable is key too. If this is fast, like you can do with in 25 min then this is great.

[@daveknowshow]

I like to use mechanical advantage to pull them over. the equipment can be costly though. there are video of the set ups on youtube. its amazing what can be done with a few pully set ups. this tree here had big branches that stemmed out just above where I was connected. they were all rotten dead limbs so I had it cut and left this part high so I could do exactly what you suggested. the tractor just could not make her fall. so I dug around and used the chain hoist. worked out pretty good. thanks for the great comment.

[@jeffreypenfield8740]

Why did you use a come a long to pull it down at the beginning? Why didn't you just hook up the tractor from the beginning?

[@daveknowshow]

no way this tractor would have pulled it over before digging out the roots. it had a heck of a time getting the tree over after digging out the roots and leaving it tall for added leverage.

[@dembrowi_n_c.5111]

I never run my bachoe at full power, mid power is usually more than enough to spin the hydraulic pump and you eliminate the risk overstressing your equipment, takes about 5 more minutes to get things done but hey, is saving 5 minutes worth risking 6-8 thousand? Didn't think so lol

[@daveknowshow]

yes generally lower RPM's only affects the backhoes cycle time not digging force as pressure requirements stay about the same however flow rate drops. low flow rates can create over heating of the hydraulic fluid which can cause other issues that can be very costly. I typically run my rpm's high and try to control the speed by feathering the joystick controls. with that said new users are best advised to lower the RPM so they dont accidentally destroy something while adjusting to the learning curve. hydrostatic drive transmission tractors especially require the tractor be run at rated RPM's to keep from starving the transmission its proper flow rate. so even though lower RPM's limit stressing backhoe cylinders and such the lower RPM's can starve other vital parts with in the tractors hydraulic system. thanks for the great comment and I appreciate you taking your time to watch my videos. I hope you will find some of my many other tractor related videos useful and educational as well. I learn something new about these tractors every day from folks sharing information like you. thanks again for dropping by! peace love and respect Dave in Virginia

[@howardfortyfive9676]

I LIKE YOUR ATTITUDE DYLAN. Reminds me of another DYLAN from 40yr ago...

[@TF856]

Wow! I bet that's going to take some fancy welding to fix. 😁🤔🙄

[@daveknowshow]

yup replacement of the entire thing. around 1500.00

[@gac107]

What was the tool you were cranking to pull it over?

[@ipwee]

A chain fall.

[@musclevisuals8114]

What size is this backhoe ?

[@daveknowshow]

bh75

[@shanechambless8]

I had that problem one time on a case backhoe so I park it and got the PC 150 and did it in half the time

[@daveknowshow]

its nice if you have multiple options for doing work like this. unfortunately I only have the tractor like most people. I'd love to get a big excavator to play with. lol

[@mountainviewturning5319]

Very nice video 👍

[@daveknowshow]

Thank you very much!

[@bcflys]

Hi Dave, great video, it shows the power of patience and technique. Just curious, did you make a video of the event that crunched that hydraulic ram?

[@daveknowshow]

no the hydraulic ram breaking was NOT my tractor. it was another Kubota owner. we assume the ram broke because the hydraulic pressure relief valve failed to work properly. it broke on a very small root shown in one of the pictures. thank you for watching my video and for the kind words.

[@JonHumphreys]

Hey man, great job! Thanks for the information.

[@daveknowshow]

youre very welcome. I bent another one myself a few months ago. sheesh just cant be to careful.

[@This1LifeWeLive]

Holy crap! What's the horse power on that tractor? I've got a John Deere 5410, 89 hp with backhoe and just did a video on using it to dig culverts and trenches. We did use it to dig out a rotten stump, but I'm glad I saw this video in case we attempt anything larger! I would NOT want to bust my backhoe! I LOVE USING IT! I just wish you could maneuver the tractor forward or back without having to get off the backhoe :(

[@daveknowshow]

size is relative to little when it comes to damaging your backhoe. larger backhoes are built stronger but are even more powerful which leads to breakage. smaller tractors have less power but are also not built as strong and these to are subject to breakage and failure. you should seriously consider taking a look at my other video on backhoe failures. found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJfcnJeBpdJ2n9E

[@This1LifeWeLive]

daveknowshow all good points. I was just curious how big it was. Didn't know if it was smaller than mine or just appeared that way due to the difference in brand :)

[@daveknowshow]

yes smaller this is an L2800 in the video however the one that failed and broke was a larger tractor I want to say it was a L3800 but I'm not 100% sure.

[@howardfortyfive9676]

I done that plenty of times on a Case580L. Just lower & stretch out the boom ease the stabs up spin around and ease her forward. If I had to go 10' or so I'd dog it all down and do it right. *I REALLY MISS Hoe work ANYTHING ON A TRACTOR and DUMP TRUCKS.......*

[@bayareasparky9180]

Hi Dave. What kind of tree was that? Thanks.

[@daveknowshow]

this was a giant oak and it was my favorite tree in my yard. it died for some reason I waited two seasons to see if it would come back but it was gone. sad day taking it down. I have about 5 other big oaks that have died and or are near dead. so more tree jobs in my future.

[@howardfortyfive9676]

Great Opening!! *DO IT WITH TANNERITE* *OR DON'T DO IT A TALL*

[@davidmanning5665]

Excellent Video, Thanks.

[@daveknowshow]

thanks brother hope you are having a great weekend! always good to hear from folks on my channel.

[@theblacksunshineproject3597]

Great video.. I'd like to see the o e on how you. Moved that stump 👍

[@daveknowshow]

pushed it with the front end loader low range and it took all she had to push it down hill. lol

[@theblacksunshineproject3597]

Should have made a video of that . Would have been nice to watch

[@daveknowshow]

yes I should have next time.

[@Ivanskrakow]

Just got a back hoe for my Kubota B3300 SU, so this video was perfect.. However I am in New Hampshire, which is the Granite state. I am doing well if when I am digging that I don't come across rocks smaller than a Volkswagen? I maybe exaggerating, but not much. So the video I need now, is how to determine where there are no rocks,, next project is outhouse pit.

[@daveknowshow]

hard to dig in straight rock soil that takes all the fun out of it.

[@Ivanskrakow]

yep

[@banshee8989]

I live in Connecticut and huge rocks everywhere. The only thing tougher than stumps are rocks. I have bent my bucket and broken teeth off in the past on my small backhoe. Your going to give your little rig a real workout and no matter how careful you are...... something will eventually break. Good luck in the rock garden... and your not alone.

[@daveknowshow]

so true Banshee8989 !