How to easily cheese Broken Dual WinterBell Knights DLC3 NG+9 (Black Soul 2 )

#blacksoul
They have skill that is unavoidable, 35% percentage max HP per hit(able to hit twice), Pierce Defense and Guard, giving a debuff for attack and defense on hit and They're immune to critical damage ,have passive heal for 20% max hp each turn, and finally immune to backstab.
Requiem is the one few way to survive them and with Shoo's covenant you can tank 5 hits ( 19%*5)
Also they have another skill that gives 50% more max hp and reduced dmg both magic and attack types to 30% makes NG+9 a slog to fight them and you can get 1 shotted first turn if they spawn double like this.
However, Seem like that skill costs MP to use and when drained out of it they skip their first turn and then always use charge attack afterward.
So Mana Flare able to do that after buff, they also weak to status effect so
Poison, Deadly Poison, Bleed, Laceration, Burn works really well on their high hp pool.
so the strat was Powerwithin/ Knuckle buff /Mana Flare / Debuff /Status effects then just finish the job afterward.
Sick Battle theme though.

[@NokthanA]

Mana flare is a very clever move tbh, since it will drain out their entire MP pool as long as you have 3750 MAG. More people need to know about this. This is useful since they will only able to use the charge action and release with no MP, since they have no MP regen. Their charge actions can only be done while under 70% HP. Therefore, I think the safest way to do this is to first use Mana Flare, attack one first, break when charge, repeat with both. Winter Warrior's disarm and dislodge will deal 30% percentage based damage on top of physical attack. Assuming your stat is similar to the video, (the part with buffs except Knight's pride, which has ~18k DEF) they will deal ~299466 damage, which is around 37% HP.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

Oh , you're the man did the full all endings guide back when BS still in Japanese. I used your guide in both games. I'm honored you're here lol. Yes, I'm bad at math so roughly based on my health bar, since without Shoo, I get 3 tapped regardless of my stats or buff so I figured it must be max hp% based . Wish my Knight Sword had that broken version of skills.

[@NokthanA]

@@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul No worries, and here I was giving false information about these knights would do 50% HP damage in my H end guide. It's the matter of seeing more samples. To be fair, the player dislodge and disarm are still an unavoidable attack, which makes it a better omnistrike. If these two skills getting percentage based damage, Jabberwock's scythe would cry lol... (also extremely OP if they are more than 1%)

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

No I thought it was 50% like those Zombies in the Clinic of DLC 3. Until I tested it and It wasn't. Make sense, her scythe does like 1% and 10% ish ? and it's already so powerful but would be a cool idea to implement for ppl whom finished the game on SL1.

[@NokthanA]

@@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul Corpse eater does in fact doing 50% HP damage and turns it into their HP. (unless you have percentage based damage resistance) Rotten Scythe Jabberwock's normal attack will always deal 1% enemy HP damage +10 raw physical, while it's weapon skill Soul Break will deal 10% enemy HP damage + 10 raw dark. While implement an extra reward for SL1 completion is cool, but it's also unnecessary and impossible for the dev to include it... Unnecessary cuz it will make thing too easy. Impossible due to the game already have ~999 skills in total, means they can't make more, it's hitting the limit of the engine.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

@@NokthanA Just a madman's wishful dream :V .That's pretty cool, I didn't know 999 skills are the limit in the RPG Maker Engine, Not relevant but if I want to learn to mod RPG Maker do you have any recommendation to start ? Thank you.

[@IRT__YATILIAN__SaTO__UZ]

I just use hidden body because yes lol. Also, nice goblin slayer pic.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

Yeah, most of the time it's best to run pass since they wont give chase. I'm an autistic hobo so I gotta figure out how to deal with everything. also, thanks for noticing GS. you're the first one mentioned it v;

[@Mrhat5252]

I am a dumbass. So i just use Black Slash lol

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

Based on White_wings_of_Ilia the min/max nerd. That skill is pretty bad, cannnot crit, no boost from elemental dmg, no extra dmg to frail or vulnerable and a skill from Chao Dungeons. but if it works, it works ;v

[@Destruction42k-yg4ws]

Makes me wonder if the Winterbell knights are mechanical clockwork soldiers controlled by GG or if their just children Grimm sired wearing combat armour. the theme song insinuates the first option. However if it's the second one I have never been so proud of getting my ass kicked by my daughters.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

I just want their damn sword's skill man, give me that juicy 35% hp version skill.

[@Destruction42k-yg4ws]

@@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul that does sound pretty damn op.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

@@Destruction42k-yg4ws Boss version and player version :V

[@aidar_dindo3503]

what laceration effect does?

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

2% max hp per turn, stacks with Bleeding which is 3%

[@NokthanA]

-15% ATK and MAG on top of -2% HP regen.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

Oh I didn't know about those extra debuff. thanks

[@schwartsbruder]

I'm going to Alice!

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

As you always have, as you always do. There is a goal for there is a hole.

[@schwartsbruder]

@@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul You don't understand, i love Alice a lot but in a friend kind of way, i leave the sex for marie rose from DOA!

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

@@schwartsbruder Alice is only for headpat I see, Based gentleman

[@schwartsbruder]

@@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul Headpats and occasional hugs if need be it!

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

🥰 As long as it's not Leaf

[@iliasalice6322]

Lol or you can just be a normal mortal like me , Hidden body and run pass them.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

As Ilias's teaching, a hero should not run away from their fights. Unless you're an invader in Elden Ring getting ganked, then yes you should dip out of there.

[@aidar_dindo3503]

And besides they drop goodies

[@iliasalice6322]

@@aidar_dindo3503 Those tainted souls were not worth it lol. However with new found knowledge I shall hunt them all.

[@AliceLiddell_Blacksoul]

​@@iliasalice6322 Go on Brave Hoonter, A hoonter must hoont