I didn't really think about this when making the video, but the staff is a lot more chill to use as your initial tier 2 weapon. If you take the bow you'll need to flick rigour, if you take the staff you just don't use an offensive prayer.
@Tadpole692 жыл бұрын
Would it still be better to use staff if I have 88 mage and 94 range? I swear staff hits higher
@SoloJawn2 жыл бұрын
@@Tadpole69 depends on prayers I think, but the staff isn't very reliant on level at all. At level 85 the staff is only 5% worse than 99. The bow is ~20% worse at 85 vs 99. Use the dps calc in the description for an exact answer
@PauIdenino9 ай бұрын
You should still use offensive prayer with staff
@dm99105 ай бұрын
@@PauIdenino You should at hunllef but it's not as big of a deal against the rest of the gauntlet enemies. I get around a 2-3% increased chance to hit with mystic might, which might save you 1 attack per CG. personally I lazy flick it vs demibosses only, except when i've already used a lot of prayer in which case i lazy flick my protection prayer. not worth the effort/prayer points to do it for anything else
@buckle18072 жыл бұрын
Cg is the one boss in the game that actually winds me tf up. So addicting even when you die straight back in loool
@TheWholesomeGamer2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 accurate
@EosDeity2 жыл бұрын
"This guide isnt for someone who is just getting into gauntlet" Me about to do my 1st run: niceee
@elpollocolorado2 жыл бұрын
Bro good luck
@AndyDoesHisBest-ms4vt Жыл бұрын
This guide actually got me my first kill at cg, and my next 50. Extremely well done man. Appreciate you. Eating all at once, focusing on pathing/tornadoes over prayer, and knowing everything can be tick-eaten - these tips alone helped so much.
@185erzzzz2 ай бұрын
Did you go straight into t1?
@luket54682 ай бұрын
@@185erzzzz i started learning cg last week and went straight to tier 1. T2 and 3 prep is a skill itself. Id rather learn the boss. On 100kc now
@christianm33903 жыл бұрын
thanks my dude, been able to do 10~ min clears and was honestly in general confused with all the information I found being before the staff buff.
@xIReflexProductions2 жыл бұрын
Great vid my man, being completely honest i was a bit skeptical as i always thought T2 arrmour was almost a must, but tried this out and legit first kil got my pb down from 9:57 to 7:51
@siem2282 жыл бұрын
Good shit, wish me gl, been doing t2 armour untill 60kc here.
@bpgaming79113 жыл бұрын
Bro this vid got my PB from 9:40 to 8:38 the kill after I watched. And I’ve gotten a kc every attempt since. Awesome vid man
@joshcheez6113 жыл бұрын
The DPS calc tip was great, only note is when you select 15% prayer boosts which anyone doing it will have, the staff becomes only around 10% better than bow rather than 25
@Sanezilla2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, straight to the point. And I appreciate you listing dps charts instead of just using anecdotal evidence in showing which weapon is best.
@ypg_yobbo20772 жыл бұрын
This vid is what made me realise that I was wasting heaps of dps, even with 82 range and 85 mage and base 85 melee the kills are kinda slow but I can clear now 90% of the time. Cheers legend
@zimdogmail3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Included important things about the update a while back too
@Hytoene Жыл бұрын
Randomly stumbled into this. Before the vid my PB was over 9 mins. Immediately after watching I got 8:43 and then 8:19. Superb vid mate!
@KodakKid33 Жыл бұрын
Concerning DPS -- the armor in Gauntlet gives attack bonuses which you didn't account for in calcs. Against Hunleff, staff is the worst weapon when accounting for armor bonuses However, the difference is so miniscule that again, it doesn't matter. Using whichever T3 wep you get first or whichever you have the highest stats in is still preferable. And staff is still best against the demibosses & weaker mobs (especially if not using offensive prayers), tho again the DPS difference is very small
@335ssh9 ай бұрын
Very concise and well made video but I disagree with the T1 vs T2 armor argument. T1 armor with Mystic might and Eagle eye below 90 defense and mid 80s combat stats is very inconsistent and very annoying. Even playing perfectly, using every available tick to do damage whilst camping 14 hp, tick eating if you go below that, and a full inv of fish you're still not guaranteed to complete every kill purely because you lack the damage output and you spend so much time eating. For you low level ironmen or main accounts who don't have Rigour/Augury and are below 90 defense, stick to T2 armor, yes your average kill time will go up to 10-11 minutes but you will consistently complete every kill and not hate yourself doing so. Everyone else who has Rigour/Augury and has higher stats, you just gotta get good.
@nyu4205 ай бұрын
dont be noob
@james_rushАй бұрын
Agreed - I tried a few T1s with 83 range/85 mage/ 85-90 melees and even when playing very optimally with taking no extra damage and consistent DPS during tornados, I can STILL die at due to running out of supplies. Nothing worse than dieing after a perfect run with the boss literally at 1hp while I noodle. I've also messed around with using T2 helm and legs with T1 chest (6 materials each instead of 7) and that works quite well!
@TechnoBacon5515 күн бұрын
I was very interested in the t1 vs t2 debate for a long time and let's see the numbers: Let's assume we're unlucky/bad at prep so we need 5 mins to prep t1 and 7:30 to prep t2. Both can be improved, so I'm taking "worst" case scenario at both. Accuracy bonus of t2 is miniscule, around 2% extra dps if plugged into dps calc at mid-high 80s so we can pretty much ignore that. This means Hunllef kill is almost the same between t1 and t2, maybe t2 has 10 seconds over t1 because of the fewer fish we need to eat. Let's say an okay Hunllef kill will be 5 minutes. 7:30 prep + 5 min Hunllef kill comes out to 12:30 full time, which I think is pretty average for t2. 5 min prep + 5 min Hunllef kill comes out to 10 min full time for t1 on average. This means that there's a full 2:30 minutes added on t2 that t1 can spend doing another half prep in the next round. Mistakes happen, you can die in t1 and t2 as well. If 4 nados spec you out, you won't survive in t2 either. So going with this, the conclusion is that *if you die a t1 specific death (run out of supplies, lots of mistakes) in
@thatoneguy9148 ай бұрын
Another tip: If u happen to kill the melee demi-boss u can grind the spike with ur pestle and mortar for shards
@varesso75683 жыл бұрын
as a returning player, this is exactly what im looking for. subbed :)
@yoyo170rs2 жыл бұрын
Great way to get back into it mate, havent played for half a year and this is a good refresher
@ninjafly35 Жыл бұрын
I've been struggling to reduce my prep time and get another kill for a while. This video helped so much!
@Ironbattlemace10 ай бұрын
Thank you. This helped me alot and now I can do even mobile kills after tedious learning curve.
@mat45373 жыл бұрын
Clear and concise as always, thank you! You’re doing the lords work.
@catatestrophe74993 жыл бұрын
Good to know I was already doing a lot of this before I watched this video. There are some helpful tips in this video though! Thank you brudda!
@chandlerbing74911 ай бұрын
Great knowledge explanations. Appreciated the breakdown of some more "advanced mechanics"
@kevinfeng67002 жыл бұрын
So much advanced tech/tips that I did not know about; great guide sir!!!
@zoahzoahzoah2 жыл бұрын
This really helped me get more consistent kills, thank you
@firebender90102 жыл бұрын
Incredibly well done and concise. Great video. I learned a few things from this.
@deepdishfeelings Жыл бұрын
this jawn is exactly what i needed. ty
@MusmiBlackOps3 жыл бұрын
Really nice guide, good job!
@imkevig Жыл бұрын
wow shaved 40 seconds off my pb first run after watching this video
@Spunney2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@goinham9469 Жыл бұрын
Mobile only with eagle eye watching this like wow. How easy.
@XXnlcodXX3 жыл бұрын
Honestly perfect video man. Quick and clear instructions. When priff came out I just got used to doing it a certain way. Wasnt that “wrong” but Im that 10-11m guy atm, imma push for consistant 8’s tonight! Didnt know about the “lvl3 “ monsters only in those rooms eather. Thanks mAn!
@apexrhino21952 жыл бұрын
insanely helpful thank you dude
@KappaClausNick3 жыл бұрын
Another helpful tip when making the first initial run, assuming you always go opposite of hunleff, to collect resources just open the rooms where the dragon, dark beast and bear can spawn. If one spawns there you know what you're first t2 weapon will be and won't waste shards on a t2 weapon that you wont use. If none spawn which is unlikely then you won't have to waste time backtracking just to check. It can save a little bit of time as well as some shards
@8beef4u3 жыл бұрын
Still in the low 9's for kill times. I but my hunlifs are always 3:45-4:15 which i feel is a bit slow. My advice is always bring more food and safe up. You have to die extremely rarely to make it worth it to camp 13 hp.
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
3:30 is about my average with max stats/prayers
@NOT_EZ_NFL3 жыл бұрын
Been trying to do the corrupted on my iron... didn't realize the range weapon was balanced on Rigour I don't have rigour and I just did the dps calc and found that (with both mage and range the same level) the bow is about 25% lower DPS My god obviously why I've been failing, switching to halberd and staff only now...
@yungdamage20113 жыл бұрын
The exact same issue I had, literally changes everything lmao
@mvmusic8467 Жыл бұрын
Halberd is higher damage/accuracy but you also cant attack him with it during tornado phase or when he's on top of lava tiles therefore it isn't actually a straight 25% dps increase.
@MrChichinus3 жыл бұрын
Great guide!
@noobmaster315 ай бұрын
As someone who tried the corrupted hunllef 10 times and died 10 times, I'll watch any video that helps. 😂
@jac18972 жыл бұрын
that 4:10 tile transition was so clean
@ChazFoulstone2 жыл бұрын
75 kills doing T2 strat and it was super easy fights. T1 armour? Jesus christ even when I play perfectly it still takes like 16+ food and even then it's super close. Sometimes even with FULL food it's still brutal if I get shit RNG. Anyone able to do this fight with 12 food is fucking insane.
@SoloJawn2 жыл бұрын
It's all practice brother. When I started out T2 armor wasn't possible to make without really good RNG. The staff was also weaker and the NPCs didn't spawn in fixed locations. It took me 2300Kc to finish the CG, had I taken 2 minutes longer for each kill then it would have taken an extra 76 hours.
@joethumma3 жыл бұрын
Would the T2 Staff be better when hunting for demi bosses as the staff has the same max hit as the T2 Bow with augury? Thanks for the guide, I hope to get consistent 8 min gauntlet kills as well!
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
It's really down to preference. I think the staff is very slightly better with 99s and both prayers. I've done 1200 kills pre staff buff so I reflexively make the bow
@fawgy37023 жыл бұрын
I make the staff cause im too lazy to flick rigour
@gordonrussell86132 жыл бұрын
single best guide. no excess, no accent, good info
@TBFownzu2 жыл бұрын
This is great advice, thank you. I beat my PB in 2 attempts and got a sub 8 minute completion within 10 :)
@andrebenoit4043 жыл бұрын
I'm at 200 kills how did I not know the bosses only spawn in the middle 3 rooms hahaha
@LMDS953 жыл бұрын
This was one of the newer Gauntlet changes.
@catatestrophe74993 жыл бұрын
Dude same
@aranmawlood1232 жыл бұрын
wow this guide was great.
@GroundedHope2 жыл бұрын
this feels impossible without 99 defense you get absolutely fucking shredded by 10+ every single hit
@dirkbroeks2152 жыл бұрын
if below 90+ def just do t2 armour easy
@tylerbreau45442 жыл бұрын
Assuming monster DPS works the same as player, defense level doesn't affect damage rolls. Defense level reduces the chance you get hit or not, if you get do get hit there is an equal chance to take 0-monster's max hit.
@JamesSpeedRuns Жыл бұрын
I'm max 45 defence zerk 99 att and I get shredded. I need full invo of fish on t1. Not to mention getting t2 is a pain
@seekelectricity9 ай бұрын
Im 75 def and tier 1 armor runs feel impossible to survive.
@dr4g00nk1d2 жыл бұрын
x12 food aha more like a near full inven of food for the corrupt gauntlet
@ismaelismael8021 Жыл бұрын
IDK what ur rng is to finish the kill with 12 fish. But I need like 20 fish atleast per kill. If rng is bad even a full inv isnt enough and i need to use the blue hrt prayer if i have any pray pots left.
@SoloJawn Жыл бұрын
With 12 fish and T1 armor if you play well you have a 96% chance to get the kill not accounting for redemption and tick eating. You can play around with the simulator I wrote here: github.com/Jawnny/hunllefSim
@juiceman1887 Жыл бұрын
@@SoloJawnmaybe if you’re 99 def. I’m only 79 def and get hit so much even with tier 2 armor. I would rather take an extra min or two to get more food than chalk up 10mins because I ran out of food
@baldr80443 жыл бұрын
i took 12 fish made 0 mistakes didn't miss that many dps ticks and still died
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that can happen, pretty rare tho
@8beef4u3 жыл бұрын
this actually happens all the time lol. always make 16 at least. the time saved with 12 is not worth the increased chance of death. I would say 12 fish is straight up bad advice.
@Hadrian772 жыл бұрын
@@8beef4u facts!!
@robertneumeier1916 Жыл бұрын
@@8beef4uright, im 500 kc, 99 mage, range, 87 def, rigour and augury. I have the perfect corrupt hunl combat achievement so i know when i do a perfect run lol. Theres times i'll habe a perfect run and use even 16+ food. Sometimes you noodle so bad on hunl the kill is a whole minute or 2 longer than normal lol
@AmberCOOLKID2 жыл бұрын
Keep it up pro
@luke18352 жыл бұрын
im so shit at this game
@who_what2 жыл бұрын
3:21 what's the point of zigzagging instead of going through the corner? Isn't it the same amount of rooms regardless? Aka equal speed
@Alice_Fumo2 жыл бұрын
walking diagonally is generally faster than walking straight in this game. Going for the zigzags gives a few more tiles of diagonal movement over using the corner rooms.
@rdubbz3 жыл бұрын
i was just wondering if you had any other tips? My account is iron without augury and rigour and my stats are below 90. I have been able to finish fairly easily with t2 armor but not t1 i feel like im just getting hit to often
@dangitnicky2 жыл бұрын
This guide assumes a lot for 'optimal' kills, the true optimal strategy is whatever nets you more completions/hour. Pre-CoX prayers and
@spencercochran28912 жыл бұрын
Very good vid
@Solojoe-l8z5 ай бұрын
There needs to be a tornado timer.
@DonkeyboyWilson8 ай бұрын
for guarenteed kills just get 20 food, not worth dying because of bad dps
@SoyDelSouth7 ай бұрын
yup. its worth taking an extra 30 seconds of healing instead of throwing 8 minutes of time
@DonkeyboyWilson7 ай бұрын
@@SoyDelSouthi still sometimes have such terrible rng that I die with like 20 food
@SoyDelSouth7 ай бұрын
@@DonkeyboyWilson whats your stats? 90+ mage and 92+ range are the minimums recommended for T1. i can't dps enough with halberd yet so i force bow + staff
@DonkeyboyWilson7 ай бұрын
@@SoyDelSouth 97 str 97 rng 99 mage, i can complete consistently but deaths still happen
@abcdegh4682 жыл бұрын
Is it still possible to get 8 min kills if I cant use halberd? (Range tank)
@joshuasmith187710 ай бұрын
Great but like... How do I increase my RNG at the chest?
@andyzillla41333 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what I do I always hit multiple 0s with the upgraded weapons and 99 stats absolute dog shit.
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
You're doing something wrong. Bad RNG happens, but I even posted an hour of me doing this just to show it's doable.
@brendenlittle6153 Жыл бұрын
without 99 defense (mine's 80) should I stick with tier 2 or can i reasonably do it with tier 1?
@Jfundy11 ай бұрын
From my experience, I have 70 def. Depending on my rng/dps then t1 armour can work fine SOMETIMES. Sometimes have food left over then other times I run out of food completely and get fucked. So I normally just do t2 bc its a 100% guaranteed kill lol 130+ kills so far with like 95% t2 armour.
@ethan648310 ай бұрын
12 fish for tier 1? Not a chance bro I can barely do it with 20.
@madsmadsemann42022 жыл бұрын
So its imperative that i get all the materials in the initial sweep, does this mean i should extend the sweep with additional loops if this criteria is not met?
@SoloJawn2 жыл бұрын
You really only need 80 shards and a weapon frame, the rest can be collected while getting t3 weapons
@FlashBrazer2 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the "new" corrupted paddlefish? I like to bring some 16-20 fish total and have around half be corrupted, then just combo eat every time (but sitting at low 80s def rn, so can't go too low on fish for the fight)
@SoloJawn2 жыл бұрын
They're a noob trap. They heal less and there's no need to ever combo eat.
@juuue45502 жыл бұрын
@@SoloJawn i don’t think that’s true. Each time you eat you lose 3 ticks, making 10 combo food saves 18 secs per run. Not to mention the safety it offers
@FlashBrazer2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's kind of a dps check so the more attacks the better I'd say. Unless combo eats don't actually work that way, does anyone know? If you combo eat do you get set back 3 ticks or 6? If 6 then yeah no real point in bringing it
@juuue45502 жыл бұрын
@@FlashBrazer its 3
@ThePureBarrows3 жыл бұрын
honestly a decent video, only issue is no 5:1, 5:1 + veng saves alot of prep time
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely unnecessary. 5:1 is much more difficult making it less consistent. Venge is useful but also more of a speedrun strat. Keep in mind this is for fast consistent kills not a PB run.
@ThePureBarrows3 жыл бұрын
@@SoloJawn I dissagree, sounds like u havent fully tested it. 5:1 fully worth it
@ThePureBarrows3 жыл бұрын
When bear 1st u need 2 wep frames prior to killing it to 5:1 its worth just doing 2 weps if u get bear 1st w/o both frames
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePureBarrows I've done plenty of gauntlet speedruns. Similar to how I don't recommend doing woox walking with the halberd, I don't deem 5:1 safe enough to include in consistent clears.
@mrkrukke Жыл бұрын
I have 90 att 90 str 86 def 93 hp 92 range and 86 mage. Should I be able to do it with T1 gear and T3 weps?
@dolomolo3728 Жыл бұрын
Easily
@oatznsquats3 жыл бұрын
do you always eat to full hp when you do eat during hunlief?
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
I do. It's actually faster to only tick eat, but I wouldn't do that unless I was trying to speedrun for a new PB. It's a lot safer to be high hp and doesn't really cost a whole lot of time
@ranja95353 жыл бұрын
The part talking about the tier 3 weapons WITHOUT prayer is actually tier 2 and calced on the spider :$
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
Shieeeet you're right, but the difference is still quite large. Its about a 20% dps advantage with the staff.
@JustEvan7 Жыл бұрын
does anyone else just shit the bed for a lot in a row even tho youve got perfect hunllef before
@TheZizikia2 жыл бұрын
Do you have one for the average player instead of a maxed account?
@SoloJawn2 жыл бұрын
This guide is for people looking to optimize the gauntlet. The requirements to that are 90+ stats.
@Pantii3 жыл бұрын
Whats the plugin for the tile marker that moves with your character ahead of time
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
Tile indicator Tick the "highlight true tile" box
@iGoldenWax Жыл бұрын
How big of a difference is 87 mage 90 range from 99?
@SoloJawn Жыл бұрын
87 mage is fine since max hit is based upon the weapon you use. 90 range is close to bare minimum for this method.
@J05HBR3Y2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a CG guide?
@dustinpeasley27783 жыл бұрын
I was cruising to 180 kc before i saw this guide with an average kill time of 10 mins so I gave this a shot and now I absolutely suck. Can't get a kill following this.
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
Get good
@aaronm.7062 жыл бұрын
I do T2 every time with time to spare. My PB is 6:43 and I average 8-9 minute kills. I have 97 att/str, 94 def, 94 mage, 99 ranged. T1 armor means more damage, which means more clicks to eat, which increases the likelihood of a mistake. So no, T2 is not only for inexperienced players. (Maybe 99 def will be enough of a difference for me to opt for T1 though.)
@suhkawnit3 жыл бұрын
I guess this guide assumes maxed combat stats? 2 prayer pots and 12 fish is very risky otherwise
@SoloJawn3 жыл бұрын
It's risky if you aren't already good at the gauntlet. When choosing how much food you have and how many ppots you have it's important to weigh time and skill. Not just one or the other
@suhkawnit3 жыл бұрын
@@SoloJawn My account has 77 prayer and 75 def. I have to flick DPS prayers during prep to just to save prayer points for the fight. And I basically can never tank more than 2 hits in a row like you did here in this video. Skill can’t change that. I don’t mind if your guide assumes someone’s basically using a maxed combat account, but it would have been nice to include that disclaimer in there 🙂
@c3st0fd3rk3 жыл бұрын
@@suhkawnit i have the same build as you and i bring 3 pots, guarantees you don't run out of prayer. i don't think defence matters a lot during the fight, although i bring more than 12 food i hardly ever use it.
@suhkawnit3 жыл бұрын
@@c3st0fd3rk yeah I bring 3 pots and 16-20 fish. Def actually does make a big difference. I ran the calculations; 75 Def with t1 armor (+Piety) takes 3.0 DPS from the Hunllef while 99 Def with t1 armor (+Piety) takes 2.6 DPS. So we are taking 15% more DPS than a maxed account, which is huge