How to fix a leak between the pan and WC cistern.

The doughnut washer is the key to fixing this leak. You will also need a metal fixing plate as shown in the video. They come as a kit.
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[@daviddoyle5480]

As always Al you make these videos simple for us amateurs, giving us the confidence to try the jobs ourselves. Great work, from a true professional.

[@dereton33]

Very welcome

[@stuartgibson9755]

Thanks mate. This is exactly what I needed to give me the confidence to fix my 40 year old loo without resorting to an expensive plumber.

[@dereton33]

No problem Stuart.

[@AerodeonThorne]

I had to change the siphon on our old bog (toilet) a while ago and this video gave me the confidence that I knew what I was getting into. It helped a lot.

[@dereton33]

No problem.

[@stevenclark7733]

Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I’m just about to take the cistern from the wall. Wish me luck !!

[@dereton33]

You can do it!

[@gkelly4627]

Thank you. Really clear step by step instructions!

[@dereton33]

No problem.

[@BobWynn]

You're so clever Al, Jan's a lucky lady😊

[@dereton33]

Very! Ha ha, she might not think that.

[@lauriecooper-murray458]

Superbly shot video - thank you. Just managed to fix ours which was pouring water out with just this video and a £2.03 trip to screwfix!

[@dereton33]

Well done Laurie.

[@mansoorhussain1797]

A brilliant video. Lots of good tips.

[@dereton33]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mohammedtahir2349]

Hope you are fine and well your videos are great as always keep up the good work thanx

[@dereton33]

Thank you, I will

[@MrHemlock51]

Thanks once again, you're my go to KZbin plumber. I was wondering why the kits come with a metal plate. My toilet doesn't need one as there's holes in the cistern.

[@dereton33]

Thanks for checking me out.

[@wingrovewilkinson2595]

Something to look out for as I have just found out, is to check that the bottom of the cistern is flat or is countersunk. Mine was countersunk, meaning that it was not sealing right with the plate not pulling into the surface to seal. I got past it by doubling up on the flat washer on the outside aswell as inside on the syphon!

[@dereton33]

Thanks for the tip.

[@jackmidd123]

Great video. The bolts are always a headache, I don’t think I’ve ever managed to simply unscrew the wing nuts and unfortunately they’re not always easily accessible. When they inevitably need replaced pay a little more and get stainless steel. Smear them with a bit of grease.

[@dereton33]

Great tip! Thanks Jack.

[@dizzysdiamonds]

Super tutorial ....clear and super easy to follow...thnx so much!!!!

[@dereton33]

You're very welcome!

[@AYYCOL_]

hope you're well, thanks for the tutorial

[@dereton33]

All good. Thank you.

[@chalikuddin5700]

Very helpful video going to fix my one done it few years ago but always best to refresh so don’t go wrong

[@dereton33]

Glad it helped

[@user-vc1iy3xs5l]

Superb man, great video, helped me out a lot!

[@dereton33]

No problem.

[@stuartlockwood9645]

Hi Al, good video , and simple instruction to change those parts, just a thought though wouldn't it have been easy to take the cistern outside and give the whole thing a good clean before refitting it, saves getting earache from our other halves, ha, ha. Cheers mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Jan ☺, Stuart UK.

[@dereton33]

Great point Thanks Stuart.

[@JohnsPlumbingServices]

Watching all the way from Fiji 🏝️

[@dereton33]

Wow cheers John.

[@AlexanderLaing-rq8ts]

Thank you Derek, i throughally enjoyed your video and explanation. I am planning on doing diploma level 1 at college next year.

[@dereton33]

Best of luck!. it is a great career.

[@AlexanderLaing-rq8ts]

@@dereton33 Thx. Hope that your well

[@WorldOfMikeThePartworkWrangler]

Great video Allen

[@dereton33]

Thanks Mike.

[@jimmaccauley]

Thank you. Video was really helpful.

[@dereton33]

You're welcome!

[@ChristopherHiggs]

Cracking little video pal 👍

[@dereton33]

Thanks Chris.

[@Empire152]

Excellent video

[@dereton33]

Thank you very much!

[@bigredrod]

Super helpful. Thanks!

[@dereton33]

You're welcome!

[@kimljacobs3535]

Excellent guide.

[@dereton33]

Glad it was helpful!

[@clivevincent9993]

fantastic stuff. thank you

[@dereton33]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@chrisholt2474]

Great film as always, thank you much appreciated, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

[@dereton33]

Many thanks!

[@CH-en4er]

Thank you !

[@dereton33]

You're welcome!

[@trish4977]

Wish you could do mine..I had a quote from a plumber in UK to do what you just done, and he quoted me £500...I'm a pensioner so I think I might try it myself...thank you for this video.

[@dereton33]

Sorry to hear that, have a go yourself and save a packet.

[@relaxscape]

Thanks exaclty what i need

[@dereton33]

No problem.

[@therealjazzbrown]

Hi this is awesome thanks. I'm doing this but where my tank is screwed to the wall it makes the tanks slightly unlevel from front to back. Is this okay? Thanks

[@dereton33]

Yes that is where the rubber bung doughnut joint will make up the difference.

[@therealjazzbrown]

@@dereton33 thanks man!

[@farryking9217]

Thanks man❤

[@dereton33]

No problem 👍

[@ralph17p]

I don't know what Ideal Standard were thinking with the design of the cistern on my WC. The bit where the valve/syphon thingy exits is recessed about 2" but with an indented area just a bit smaller than the metal bracket, so you can't attach that using the nut to the threaded part of the valve. I replaced the valve and rusted through metal bracket some years and managed to get it leak-free with a 10cm length of PCV pipe that extended the exit of the valve down through the donut. I ended up using the metal bracket to just hold the donut in place, but it was otherwise not connected to the cistern. That was just held in place by the wall screws. Recently the flush broke and so I replaced it with another unit, but do you think I can repeat the trick and get it to not leak when flushing? Can I heck. At least nothing was rusted this time, but tomorrow will be the 4th time in as many days, taking the cistern off and trying to figure out what's going wrong. Wish me luck. There won't be a 5th time... I'll buy another toilet and it won't be Ideal Standard. bastards.

[@dereton33]

Plumbing sure is one big headache.

[@saminachishtiali4414]

Hi did everything but was still leaking then we changed the doughnut and that's better but our rubber washer broke now we have leak on the left wish us luck to get a new washer and hopefully that should solve the problem, fingers crossed wish us good luck as we need it, spent half a day on this😢

[@RichardKingADI]

So, Maybe would it be the siphon sal that was leaking? If not, hard to see where water could come from to go past the 'doughnut'? I'm guessing the water inlet or the overflow could also be a source of a leak? Maybe some food colouring in the sistern would show where any leak was originating... if from the water inlet, no colour. If from the sistern contents then colour in the leakage?

[@dereton33]

A good way of checking Richard.

[@LiveAquarium-ym9fo]

Hello, if my basin screws go through the basin itself,do i still need to fit the metal plate? I ve replaced the doughnut washer but still have a leak when i flush and it s coming from between the toilet and the basin. Also the new cone shape doughnut seal is smaller than the old one maybe that s why? Thank you?

[@dereton33]

The wrong size doughnut. Use plumbers mait around it to make up the gap.

[@BestUserNameUK]

You don't need the metal plate with that type of cistern, just the doughnut washer.

[@xinyuinternational]

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[@dereton33]

Let me know what you sell. E mail [e-mail].

[@alexthomson7465]

My toilet has a lip around the edge of where the cistern sits. I've put a new donut on but when put back in place the cistern touches the lip thus preventing the donut forming a seal. I've placed it flat side down and that seems to have worked. So many unexpected issues with simple jobs

[@dereton33]

That's plumbing

[@Dg-zj6jo]

Brilliant how to do a video thanks sir

[@dereton33]

Very welcome

[@ramindians]

Super

[@dereton33]

Thanks

[@clevertrevor7360]

I always use some plumbers mate between the plate and the cistern as insurance.

[@Bobby-xr4bo]

So its you… grrrrr…

[@dereton33]

Ha ha a sticky problem

[@Napoleon-Blownapart]

Is there any real way of knowing if its leaking from the doughnut or the two connection bolts? I have water and the bolts are rusted a bit!

[@dereton33]

No , but it is normally the doughnut.

[@Napoleon-Blownapart]

@@dereton33 Cheers, may just replace the lot to be safe 👍

[@Bobby-xr4bo]

@@Napoleon-Blownapart always best.. get a complete cistern kit and swap over everything..

[@jjgoldstein7310]

Wouldn’t a new toilet have been best, you mentioned it must have been there for years. Some people are real tightwads.

[@dereton33]

Yes it would have been.

[@mda5003]

I can remember about 30 years ago when a plumber replaced the toilet and I noticed a leak soon afterwards so had to call him back. Yes, it transpired he had installed the 'doughnut' upside down! So make sure you put it in the right way up.

[@dereton33]

Ha ha too true.

[@simonkelsey2423]

Was that your younger brother !!😁

[@dereton33]

Could have been ha ha.

[@pggp273]

Good video mate but i think its time to throw that shitty old toilet away and treat yourself to a new one

[@dereton33]

Thanks for your very kind comments.

[@manchesterreds7853]

Rusted wing nuts. Save yourself the hassle and spend £60 on a new bog.

[@Bobby-xr4bo]

Wd40

[@dereton33]

Dont shoot the messenger.

[@sheridansay8667]

I replaced the flush mechanism tonight on a loo identical in condition to this one. Tried to get away with the old doughnut...nope! Leaked all over on the flush!

[@dereton33]

Best to renew the doughnut every time. If you decide to use the old one pack it out with plumbers mait.

[@TheNicky2447]

Brilliant video thanks. So helpful

[@dereton33]

Very welcome