How to Fix a Major Timing Issue On Your Bow (Mathews Vertix)

[@olehemlock]

Great video, you need to shoot in your adjustments and settle the string and cables again and check timing again.

[@behrridgeoutdoors]

Thanks for this info. I’ll start with checking my timing. I’m starting over just before season opener as well. Something is off with my shots.

[@huntleague]

It's frustrating when something is off right before the season. My bow was pretty dialed in too before that happened!

[@jimmiekaelin4804]

I ran into this same issue. Make doubly sure you are wrapping your cable around the post in correct direction.

[@kenmedley8112]

Hey there! I had to do the same thing. I had to replaced my string and cables but I feel more confident headed into the woods this year knowing my gear is in top shape. PS, I’m a fellow New Lifer. 😀 I’d love to meet you sometime!

[@huntleague]

Awesome! Love to connect with you sometime here soon. We typically go on Friday nights as Pastor Daniel has been a lifelong friend. Have you downloaded the HuntLeague app yet? Let's connect inside the app and find a time to go shoot at the Air Force Academy range here soon. Good luck this archery season!

[@kenmedley8112]

@@huntleague sweet! We attend NLFN too! I play guitar there most weeks. Let’s connect!

[@jasonard7227]

to each there own I would have just done all new strings etc. I also do not draw my bows back in the same draw board your using without an arrow on it and seeing you stick your arm inside the path of the string with it at full draw is a bad idea I saw an arm get broke along with stitches from that d loop and the safety loop breaking. I wish you have showed how you where doing the twisting on the yokes. thanks for sharing man God Bless

[@huntleague]

That is super solid advice as there is so much stored energy in those strings, cables, and limbs. That was dangerous. Thankfully nothing crazy like that happened in this go around but I appreciate you pointing that out.

[@Aldocello1]

With all the adjustments to the cables , now check your peak weight , I just added gas strings string and cables to my Phase 4 33 and found with all my timing adjustments , I found my peak dropped 5 pounds ....was a fairly easy fix by adding twists to the cable equally but something to keep in mind .

[@huntleague]

Thanks for watching. With taking twists in and out form different sides it stayed within about 3lbs. I didn't put it on the draw board before I started but I am pretty sure I had it set between 69-70lbs and ended up at 67.62lbs after timing everything up. I am happy with that on my setup but dropping pounds means losing speed which can lead to additional work swapping out sight tape or adjusting individual pins.

[@Aldocello1]

@@huntleague yes sir , anytime we make string changes or cable adjustments we basically have to re-tune and re-zero .

[@johndeere2799]

Gas strings did a video on this issue. They also said that your loop may untwist a bit.

[@Sertao2013]

I might have missed it but did you show how how to adjusted the yoke string or did you edit that part out ?

[@jarednewman9609]

When I sat down to fix the timing I figured it would take me just a few minutes. Talk about a long process in pursuit of perfection. For the yokes, you have to remove the screws, axle, top hats and pull the cam out to adjust. Typically that is not necessary unless you are replacing the yoke strings themselves. After those are set you really shouldn't have to adjust them. On older bows I did a lot more yoke tuning. You were looking for cam lean as the bow turned over. So you watched the timing and cam lean through the draw cycle and would perform yoke tuning so that your arrows weren't getting kicked out of the bow with a lot of side to side movement. You could compensate for some cam lean by nock tuning and adjusting your arrow rest. With newer bows the engineers have fixed so much of the yoke tuning and cam lean issues. You really need a draw board to watch the cams during the draw cycle to know if you are dealing with significant cam lean. In this video I mentioned making an adjustment to the yoke strings as I was struggling to get the timing right based on the cable lengths. Adding and removing twists in the cable obviously adds or removes length. Adding a twist in the yoke string had nothing to do with adjusting for cam lean but it was a desperate attempt to see if making a small adjustment there would finally give me that perfect timing I was after. In most situations I would avoid making any adjustments to the yoke strings in order to fix a timing issue.

[@Jarmo60]

What is that machine what you use making timing? Thank you

[@huntleague]

If we are talking about time travel my preferred machine is still a hot tub. For checking the timing on the bow I am using the LCA Last Chance Archery "EZ Press" with the LCA Draw Board. The draw board attachment is the one that lets you draw the bow back in a very controlled way. It is definitely the safest way to check your timing as I accidentally pulled the strings off the bow once at full draw trying to twist the bow to look at the cams. The whole bow pretty much blew up in my face. Really glad I didn't get seriously hurt on that occasion. Limbs ended up being fine but I destroyed a brand new set of strings. The Draw Board keeps everything in its track and lets you observe the mechanics of the bow. On one occasion I had a buddy bring me his bow where the timing was a total mess. I tried tweaking it several times before realizing the mods on his Prime bow were not set correct for his draw length. One was set to 30" and the other was set at 28". That is a problem you will never fix by adding twists to strings and cables.

[@jthepickle7]

I'm seeking to find how to reduce the number of variables in tuning my bow. This video is not helping.

[@jessehensel3638]

I bet the angle of the grip in your hand influences the timing.

[@gordonneverdies]

How does grip influence timing? I know it has a major impact on arrow flight but isn't timing just a mechanical issue?