How to Fix OLED Monitor & TV Flickering

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[@CS-amegmondo]

AW3225QF is better monitor than Aorus fO32U2 ? What you think?

[@TanteEmmaaa]

Fixing VRR issues by not using VRR. You are a funny guy.

[@Benefits]

Yea this video doesn't really help anyone. We want to use VRR but without the flickering. We don't want to turn VRR off like this guy is telling people to do.

[@n4k3d51]

What is the problem turning off gsync?

[@Benefits]

@@n4k3d51 Because that doesn't fix the flickering problem. If you turn off Gsync, all you've done is turn off the feature you're trying to use instead of fix the real problem.

[@ellogicbomba7414]

He didn’t tell you to turn off gsync or vrr, he told you to cap frame rate

[@TanteEmmaaa]

@@ellogicbomba7414 And? If you cap the framerate and run on a fixed framerate, that is the opposite of a variable refresh rate.

[@Kinjara]

I really don't think its as much frame rate as it is frame time. I picked up a PG27AQDM a few months ago and it was driving me nuts. It drove me nuts how VRR flicker didn't seem to be something that anyone was really covering. But even on a 4090 / 7950x3D setup i was still getting flickering even when capping my FPS. The only common factor was in games where the frame time was bad. Capping it lower may help with the frame time, but that's not the frame rate that fixed the flicker. IE: In Remnant II, I was getting ~200 FPS on average. I capped it lower at 144. I didn't dip below 144 and was still getting flickering. Capped it at 120 and the same thing. Ended up returning the monitor for now. VRR flicker is a problem on all monitors but is just more apparent on OLEDs and VAs. OLED just wasnt for me, yet.

[@HumbleDude46995]

OLED is great , its the best

[@band0lero]

Exactly. On Tarkov it was unfixable, the game has a bit of frame-time wobblery and there was no getting around it at all. Disabled VRR for Tarkov specifically and it was fine. Now playing STLKER SOC even with the FPS locked to 180fps, the frametime spikes produce noticeable flickering. Again, disabled VRR for it and it has been smooth sailing.

[@HumbleDude46995]

@@band0lero OLED is the best monitor, how dare you complain about obvious issues. Why dont you mention how great it is ?

[@band0lero]

@@HumbleDude46995 lmao, I get that some of the OLED hype is a bit obnoxious, but I believe most of the monitor focused review channels have been pretty fair about them. IMO it is still the best compromise solution so far. It’s far from perfect, but also far better than LCD.

[@BabySnipe517]

Thanks my guy appreciate it

[@Benefits]

This doesn't fix the VRR flickering problem at all though. You simply stopped using the variable refresh rate option and locked the monitor to a constant refresh rate. The flickering problems still exist when the refresh rate varies.

[@CaptainGarlicHD]

Ok we get how to fix this in games but what when you open steam,spotify or any app with a black/grey background, i see flickering there as well, how do we fix that as well? Im using the Dell AW2725DF. Disabling freesync in the adrenaline software fixes that but then i dont want to have screen tearing in games, is there a way to have freesync+not flickering on apps?

[@Cwronaga216]

I need to find out how to turn off G-sync entirely and make my monitor use regular vsync. I recently upgraded my old LED monitor to an OLED and all my games look horrible now and the variable refresh rate and the flickering makes me nauseous

[@christianweber1231]

By disabling VRR you are reintroducing jitters and screen tearing back that were fixed by vrr tech.

[@TigerNationDE]

Got the same issues with an LG 27GP850 IPS before. I don´t see it especially as a OLED Problem tbh. I´m always impressed that just a few people realise this on their IPS screens.

[@JaderAntunes]

Thanks for the video. I never tried this one. The way I fixed was turning off Gsync and turn on Vsync Fast mode. It works great.

[@shotiko1991]

Hi, my oled Dell alienware aw2725df also flickers when Free sync is turn off.. but those flickers are different, it flickers on youtube full screen especialy.. and in games too depends what i look.. and it s getting fixed when I set brightness/contrast very low or very high.. also it s getting fixed when i set monitor on 144 hz.. any ideas?

[@mz1929]

"BuT tHe HuMaN eYe CaN oNlY sEe uP tO 25 fPs"

[@George-um2vc]

Also console players: (upscaling games from below 540p)

[@RTGallows]

I've recently been playing destiny 1 on xbox. It maxes out at 30 fps... and it's horrible 😂

[@mz1929]

@@RTGallows thats literally why i quit D2. it was so awful when it came out at 30 fps

[@gardenia1738]

Is this the Aorus 27 inch or 32 inch?

[@sudd3660]

the flicker i got came at locked fps, like in game menus and lobbies or web browser. lowering the monitor refresh rate helped me, from 240hz to 238hz, 200hz or 220hz. also always using afterburner which i set to an fps cap 2 fps below monitor refresh rate.

[@petbalogh]

Yes, exactly. This is the way...

[@thanosaias2717]

Oleds are pwm displays. The oled pixel cant get too low in brightness so they emulate those low lvls by flickering accordingly. Combine it with vrr and at dark patches of the image you get flickering.

[@ArthurM1863]

False. Not all OLEDs use PWM

[@HumbleDude46995]

@@ArthurM1863 wrong!!! ALL OLEDS use PWM

[@thanosaias2717]

@@ArthurM1863 They do. It's a limitation of the technology. Google it.

[@TanteEmmaaa]

VRR flickering is not caused by PWM. It is caused by fluctuations in fps and therefore the refresh rate of the pixels.

[@HumbleDude46995]

@@TanteEmmaaa yikes... that is something you cannot repair

[@PabloB888]

What about 40 fps cap, it will also remove this VRR flickering? There are many demanding or unoptimized games out there, so I like to run them at 40fps cap. With VRR enabled, even 40fps has low input lag, making it much more responsive and playable.

[@deadman8284]

Not the exiting from vrr range causes flicker but a simple fps change causes. Vrr gsync are dead stuffs

[@deepSilent0]

Dropping your refresh rate to 120hz will also eliminate the flickering and you can also keep your VRR.

[@JStevensdk7]

In Fortnite on an 144hz IPS panel I had major stuttering when unlocked or fps capped at 240, when I capped to 144, the stuttering and performance issues went away. I thought it was better to allow the fps uncapped for lower input lag but I don't believe this is true and it caused issues. Not exactly the same issue but similar.

[@sudd3660]

you only benefit from uncapped fps is you get at least 100fps over the capped. i do not get enough fps in Fortnite and fps cap is not a benefit for me. a cap only works if it lowers the fps at some point. but i do have a afterburn cap that works in all games and set it to 2 fps lower than monitor refresh rate. so i get gsync activation at all times.

[@vik4130]

Setting my AW3225QF to 120 / 60 hz = no flicker , setting gsync off = no flicker. Huge tip : NOT INSTALLING Dell software in windows update (gets installed after display setup automaticly) almost completly removes flicker for me

[@razor2049]

The dell software is a must

[@De-M-oN]

Had bad flickering in Need for Speed High Stakes - a 1999 game, at the track Kindiak Park at night. The headlight cones with the dark night around it causes the headlights to flicker badly. That the refreshrate was with freesync all over the place jumping all around all numbers instead of staying on the game's hardcapped flat 64 fps, didnt help either obviously :D

[@Dynasty1818]

Sooooo manufacturers aim these monitors at gamers, with Gsync (granted that's now outdated and useless and overpriced) and Freesync (the only type you should buy as it covers Nvidia and AMD) added, yet this causes flickering (like it does on my Alienware AW2725DF OLED 360hz) and is ONLY fixable by turning off Freesync (in my case via AMD Adrenaline software, which absolutely does fix the slight flickering I get). Wow...

[@Kelzarquence]

I have the MSI MPG 271QRX. It's not a certified G-SYNC compatible monitor, and I found that simply turning G-SYNC off fixed the issue. The flicker was especially noticeable in Alan Wake 2, but turning it off eliminated the issue entirely for me. I still have adaptive sync turned on for the monitor and VSYNC on in the control panel, with the FPS capped at 357. Everything is perfect now

[@coolbvwes1]

Than vrr wouldn't work probably with gsync turned off, but tbh I got the same monitor and I never saw screen tearing wit vrr off so why should we even turn it on haha.

[@Kelzarquence]

@@coolbvwes1 It's also weird, because the VRR option disappeared for me in the Windows settings (I have Windows 11), but everything seems to be working properly. I can still hit those high frames without any tearing

[@mikemoore5270]

gsync off mans 💯

[@coolbvwes1]

​@@Kelzarquencevrr option disappeared in windows because gsync is off, it only appears when gsync is turned on. I also don't use vrr with this screen. Only in singleplayer games with lower fps.

[@Steiwerd]

Are you sure it's not the matte coatings causing the flicker? 🤠

[@stitchyrichie]

Could be my Msi oiled 360hz is matte so that’s probably my issue

[@Steiwerd]

@@stitchyrichie TRUUUUE

[@coolbvwes1]

Why even turn turn gsync on if you're capping the frames locked? Tbh on my msi mpg 271QRX and I never noticed screen tearing above 100 fps so why even turn gsync on could someone explain to me?

[@BSEUNHIR]

It's just smoother with adaptive sync plus you will never ever hold an exact frame rate in a game anyways.

[@coolbvwes1]

​@@BSEUNHIR maybe smoother with low fps but above 200 fps you won't notice a thing with vrr off :)

[@didney_worl172]

​@@coolbvwes1 CS2 microstutters like hell even above 200fps without G-Sync.

[@PabloB888]

VRR completely eliminates VSYNC input lag, making low fps games much more responsive and playable. Personally, I notice VSYNC input lag even at 170Hz, so playing with VSYNC on a fixed display is not a good experience for me. Turning off VSYNC is not a good solution either. At 170Hz I dont notice the screen tearing as much, but I can tell when fps and Hz arent synchronized because mouse movement feels different and my aiming is not as precise. On a VRR monitor, you can cap the fps at any number you want without judder, because your monitor refresh rate and frame rate will be perfectly synchronized. VRR is a must for games even if you cap your fps.

[@03Edgar]

Ive been using the lg 32 oled havent noticed this issue plus i dont use freesync or gsync

[@Patrick73787]

"i dont use freesync or gsync" That's why!

[@03Edgar]

@@Patrick73787it creates latency and inpute lag fyi. Unless you on console then i get it

[@Goblue734]

So I solved the problem everybody essentially use Nvidia app or I imagine you can make a custom resolution in your Nvidia control panel essentially just limit your monitors max refresh rate to three FPS below its max even if you’re not even hitting anywhere near the 240 of your monitors refresh rate or whatever it may be still limit it by 3 FPS below and boom my flickering went away in every game. You can still leave G sync, enabled, and play games as usual.

[@channelthepigslove]

What would the VRR range of the S95C be?

[@kaukey]

I was getting it real bad playing classic wow. I had to turn off Gsync. Good video TY. I also read having diff refresh rates on side monitors causes problems. It's cleared up as far as I know on AW 34 ultimate OLED.

[@CielMC]

"How fix vrr flicker" "Disable vrr"

[@shotiko1991]

I did but still have flickering.. my oled Dell alienware aw2725df also flickers when Free sync is turn off.. but those flickers are different, it flickers on youtube full screen especialy.. and in games too depends what i look.. and it s getting fixed when I set brightness/contrast very low or very high.. also it s getting fixed when i set monitor on 144 hz.. any ideas?

[@koalala7027]

When are you going to review the new Samsung OLED G8 240Hz?

[@tdub77]

Thanks

[@Tainted-Soul]

I think its always a good idea to cap the FPS anyway I had a game on steam that was using 100% of my GPU I keep an eye on my CPU and GPU usage and temps . I found the game was trying to get 800FPS LOL so I just capped it to 120fps and the GPU usage dropped to 20% ish LOL so for my its good practice

[@deadman8284]

No fps change = no flicker. SO vrr qsync absolutly useless

[@PabloB888]

Not exactly. VRR completely eliminates vsync input lag, making 30 / 40 fps games much more responsive and playable. Also, on a VRR monitor, you can cap fps to any number you like without judder. On a fixed refresh rate TV for example you cant run something like 45fps cap without judder.

[@IHaveBadWiFiBro]

Hello and in today's video I will be teaching you how not to use your gaming monitor at its full potential! No I'm just kidding, but this VRR issue is also apparent with Hisense U8K/U8N (and other models) the only fix is to cap the frame rate below 100 Hertz, it's ridiculous. These Monitors/TVs advertise a high frame rate but you can't achieve it unless you want flickering? Stupid as hell...

[@AluminumHaste]

I have vrr turned off on my Alienware 360hz oled. No teasing, no flicker. Don't need it

[@thomasboob]

VRR is kind of overrated at higher fps, its more good when youre dropping from like 90 down to 40 and things

[@De-M-oN]

On 240hz my eyes dont notice the screen tearing anymore at all, so my decision was easy: I disabled VRR entirely.

[@TanteEmmaaa]

It's really sad to read statements like this.

[@PabloB888]

I notice VSYNC input lag even at 170Hz, so playing with VSYNC on a fixed display is not a good experience for me. Turning off VSYNC is not a good solution either. At 170Hz I dont notice the screen tearing as much, but I can tell when fps and Hz arent synchronized because mouse movement feels different and my aiming is not as precise. On a VRR monitor, you can cap the fps at any number you want without juddering, and your monitor refresh rate and frame rate will be perfectly synchronized. VRR is a must for games and I'm not ready to turn it off.

[@BSEUNHIR]

Please. Limiting FPS barely helps. There are very few games that ever manage to consistently hold their frame rates. As such, there will always be an issue when using poor VRR implementations. Albion online for example freezes for just the tiniest fraction of a second when you mouse over a node in the destiny board. Is the stutter noticeable? Not really. Is the Gamma jumping around on my screen noticeable? Yes. So much I turned VRR off. And my screen uses an IPS Panel. Stop being an apologist for lazy display scaler development. VRR isn't new. Consistent gamme should not be impossible.

[@PabloB888]

Interesting, I have never seen VRR flicker on my IPS panel (gigabyte M27QP 1440p 170Hz). I thought it was just an OLED problem.

[@jeezuschryst]

What is your monitor?

[@ardasugar]

I think Alienware AW3423DW does not have this as it has a native Gsync module built in.

[@TanteEmmaaa]

It's nothing a Gsync module can fix. It's the panel technology.

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

lol VRR flicker.. not fixed FPS flicker

[@Mongeon]

Just disable Gsync

[@DrakonR]

Didn't work 👍

[@Mongeon]

@@DrakonR interesting , sorry for you

[@PabloB888]

VRR completely eliminates VSYNC input lag, making low fps games much more responsive and playable. Personally, I notice VSYNC input lag even at 170Hz, so playing with VSYNC on a fixed display is not a good experience for me. Turning off VSYNC is not a good solution either. At 170Hz I dont notice the screen tearing as much, but I can tell when fps and Hz arent synchronized because mouse movement feels different and my aiming is not as precise. On a VRR monitor, you can cap the fps at any number you want without judder, and your monitor refresh rate and frame rate will be perfectly synchronized. VRR is a must for games and I'm not willing to turn it off.

[@eazyryder1591]

Or just sell your OLED and buy IPS

[@eazyryder1591]

@Nevermore-wr1to After actually experiencing OLED myself at home I was blown away by the quality difference from my IPS. And now I use an Alienware AW2725df OLED. Yes Oled does have its issues, but screen flicker is barely noticable to me. I have set windows to dark mode and auto hidden the taskbar on desktop. Like you say those inky blacks and proper HDR are amazing on OLED

[@flutek891]

XG27AQDMG?

[@ShotokanEditor]

ah ok total useless video. he throws 50 monitors in this video details as his favorite. ahahah 50 monitors? wtf is this guy

[@deadman8284]

Vrr gsync is completly broken and useless stuff from born. Simple vsync with fixed fps is do all the job

[@keyoske]

PG32UCDM FTW!

[@HumbleDude46995]

OLED WEAKNESS finally EXPOSED . I knew it was too good to be true

[@mobarakjama5570]

WDYM this isn't new at all.

[@thomasboob]

oleds are obviously garbage now because of this. DUMP! DUMP!