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How to Fix PS5 Joystick Drift for Good!

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@Pumpkinwaffle
@Pumpkinwaffle Ай бұрын
Direct and concise. Manufacturers are clearly at fault here, good on you for calling them out. I was baffled that even the fancy controller with swappable sticks doesn't come with hall effect sticks. What a joke.
@kevinhowe6307
@kevinhowe6307 Ай бұрын
Yes I've replaced my DualSense edge joysticks twice within a year of ownership. Also had to replace the mechanism that controls the back trigger buttons as the right trigger mechanism basically wore out over time!
@oussama7132
@oussama7132 Ай бұрын
even the xbox "elite" controllers have drift
@SlartiMarvinbartfast
@SlartiMarvinbartfast Ай бұрын
The use of the old drift-susceptible potentiometers in controllers is all about greed and control - simply put, manufacturers want people to throw away old controllers when the potentiometers develop drift, this way the manufacturers sell more controllers. Of course this approach is not at all friendly to people's wallets or the environment.
@divineroadrunner
@divineroadrunner Ай бұрын
@@kevinhowe6307 Exactly, I was looking at getting a controller with hot swappable sticks only to find out the sticks were the same price as a $20 controller from Amazon.... And the Amazon controllers STILL came with back paddles and a mute switch, like what exactly is the $60 price tag for?
@ItsShaggy3
@ItsShaggy3 Ай бұрын
If Controllers won't break How will Playstation make money bro? How will CEO's get another condo man?
@jasonhillone
@jasonhillone Ай бұрын
Manufacturers want you to buy new controllers thats why hall sticks aint in them
@or1on89
@or1on89 Ай бұрын
HAll Effect sticks have their failure points as well...this video is just telling half truths...
@wendellgreenidge3362
@wendellgreenidge3362 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@corniel657
@corniel657 Ай бұрын
I hate that it's true
@MrSmith_
@MrSmith_ Ай бұрын
Indeed, it's planned obsolescence.
@fostrike
@fostrike Ай бұрын
Not Sega in 1998, the Dreamcast controller was hall sensor... they still work great
@Ice_2192
@Ice_2192 Ай бұрын
I can vouch for the Hall effect DualShock 3 controllers. I have a Japanese one from 2008 and it still dead center till this day. I just need to change the battery.
@TheRealBOBlibob
@TheRealBOBlibob Ай бұрын
That's good to hear. I was a little worried, because I have heard that magnets loose their magnetism naturally and I have several older consoles like a PS1 and N64. So I was wondering how my PS5 would hold up with Hall effect sticks on the long term of not using them.
@ExecutionerDan
@ExecutionerDan Ай бұрын
​@TheRealBOBlibob I'm pretty sure if stuff lost magnetism then humanity woukd get destroyed by cosmic rays lmao. I'm no scientist though.
@Syddy_
@Syddy_ Ай бұрын
@@ExecutionerDan no he's right, metals do lose magnetism, but it takes way longer for a metal to lose magnetism vs normal sticks to start drifting
@ExecutionerDan
@ExecutionerDan Ай бұрын
@@Syddy_ interesting. Probably takes decades if I had to guess though right?
@Syddy_
@Syddy_ Ай бұрын
@@ExecutionerDan i just did a quick google and the magnets in hall effect sensors are neodymium, which only lose about 5% of their magnetism in 100 years. so i guess they're basically permanent. i was going off like magnetised screwdriver bits that lose their magnetism way faster.
@alansmithee2012
@alansmithee2012 Ай бұрын
I've done a tonne of stick replacements on DS4s, I recommend one of those solder irons with a built in pump for desoldering. REALLY helps removing the old solder.
@Pixelchaos
@Pixelchaos Ай бұрын
That's the way😊
@corniel657
@corniel657 Ай бұрын
Can i get any recommendations?
@Pixelchaos
@Pixelchaos Ай бұрын
@@corniel657 hakko if you want to invest in a pretty decent one, or go pro with jbc or weller.
@Pixelchaos
@Pixelchaos Ай бұрын
@@corniel657 hakko minimum, weller or jbc if you really want to invest in some great equipment. I myself run 2 weller wxsmart systems a wx2 and 2 wxair units. Combined with zero smog unit and 6 different solder irons.
@DedoPorno
@DedoPorno Ай бұрын
@alansmithee2012 Can you share a link to one such soldering iron? I didn't know there was such a variation. Thanks in advance!
@jhonrock2386
@jhonrock2386 Ай бұрын
One of my PS5 controllers started to drift, after 3 years of use. I repaired it by changing the analog, BUT, less than a year after, the drift came back. This time, I already knew about the existence of these compatible magnetic analogs. I bought a pair and used them on my controller. It has been 3 months already and I had no problem at all. And, to be honest, I'm finding these magnetic analogs more smoother to use than the original ones (I have two controlllers, one with magnetic analgs and other with the original ones). The controller with the magnetic analogs became my preferred controller to play.
@agentreptard
@agentreptard 29 күн бұрын
Sometimes vibration settings cause stick drift.
@peanutheadrules
@peanutheadrules 25 күн бұрын
How easy/difficult was the install? Mine just started to drift to the left and I need to swap out my left stick
@jhonrock2386
@jhonrock2386 25 күн бұрын
@@peanutheadrules I cant say how difficult is cuz I paid for a professional in this area change it for me.
@peanutheadrules
@peanutheadrules 24 күн бұрын
@@jhonrock2386 gotcha, thanks for the response! I’ll look around and see how much they charge over here. Appreciate it!
@quintonmoore8797
@quintonmoore8797 12 күн бұрын
Which magnetic replacements did you use?
@daledevernon56
@daledevernon56 Ай бұрын
If you haven't heard of stick drift you don't play enough.
@EricPlayzGames
@EricPlayzGames Ай бұрын
Fr couldn't said it better
@DaMu24
@DaMu24 Ай бұрын
Or you live away off Twitter and KZbin. Great thing, honestly 😊
@Mr_Battlefield
@Mr_Battlefield Ай бұрын
I've played thousands of hours on my PlayStation 5. So far I must be lucky but I haven't seen stick drift yet. But I do play on Upgrading two of my controllers with Hall Effect Joystick modules. I'll start with one of my DualSense controllers then I'll attempt to replace my DualSense Edge joystick modules too
@mus_xr4653
@mus_xr4653 Ай бұрын
​@@Mr_Battlefieldmost of the time stick drift is caused by dust and grime
@headerahelix
@headerahelix Ай бұрын
​@@mus_xr4653I doubt that, I've had the issue on a less than year old XSX controller, and on a Switch lite that was weeks old. As a kid I never had this issue despite playing with dirty kids hands, having cousins and siblings who didn't respect my stuff, etc. so if it's mostly a dirt problem I should have had this problem constantly.
@SqBGhost
@SqBGhost Ай бұрын
God, the more I learn about electronics, planned obsolescence, and how cheap spare parts are in comparison, the more I think I should finally learn how to solder. Edit : corrected a mistake
@luigiymario2xd
@luigiymario2xd Ай бұрын
Solder*
@SqBGhost
@SqBGhost Ай бұрын
​@@luigiymario2xd thanks for the correction. I appreciate it
@cooperm211
@cooperm211 Ай бұрын
Yea it's not super difficult to start learning, especially if you start with something larger like audio cables. The problem most of my students have is that they buy a cheap iron that doesn't maintain heat accurately, and then they end up struggling between "it won't heat up" and "I melted everything" lol
@Rain1
@Rain1 Ай бұрын
What you just said is why I taught myself the absolute basics through KZbin. I had to start replacing the mouse buttons on one of my Logitech mice because it was double clicking like crazy. Now I'm capable of doing very basic soldering. My greatest feat of work is putting a back buttons kit on my dual sense controller. It takes me forever cuz I'm scared of messing up but I can get it done
@Elriuhilu
@Elriuhilu 2 күн бұрын
Do it, it's not that hard.
@asmircar1
@asmircar1 Ай бұрын
U guys should start selling battery upgrades, show us biggest and best quality battery we can put inside.
@XxUnkn0wnxX95X
@XxUnkn0wnxX95X Ай бұрын
yeah I know right, i got me a 4000 mAh battery in mine, I got from aliexpress, controller lasts slightly more then 1 day of playtime now ;)
@sirrabhsurya5087
@sirrabhsurya5087 Ай бұрын
@@XxUnkn0wnxX95Xwow can you link it please
@SpeedyGwen
@SpeedyGwen Ай бұрын
@@XxUnkn0wnxX95X which is still not much at all tbh, its what my curent ps4 controller holds and it has the original battery, tho I find it absolutely trash taht its barely a day while my old x360 controller lasted over a week of 10 hours of gaming per days with just 2 AA batteries, lipo batteries where suposed to be an upgrade compared to AA batteries, not a Huge downgrade...
@Honir4
@Honir4 12 күн бұрын
@@SpeedyGwen you play too much use wired controller
@Klasermannen
@Klasermannen 9 күн бұрын
They actually do now! A 2800 mAh one.
@kancheongspidergaming
@kancheongspidergaming Ай бұрын
The board's 6 layers make desoldering excessively difficult since its pretty much a massive heatsink within it. I use a rework station and each stick takes about 2-3 minutes at 500°C to get yanked out. Ginfull (manufacturer of those sticks btw) actually has 2 calibration holes on each sensor (X and Y axis), so a pair of tweezers or paperclip is all thats needed to center the sensors.
@headerahelix
@headerahelix Ай бұрын
Would you be willing to make a video detailing how to do this? I'm sure countless people would be very grateful.
@hollow314
@hollow314 Ай бұрын
Those calibration holes will never be better than the software calibration. The Software calibration is permanent, quick and easy and you don't need open the controller to redo it. Also if those holes are so good of a way to calibrate why did they stop making the magnet adjustable in ginfull v5 sticks? Stop thinking you are smart just bc you know a little. Oh and not to mention Jun Zeng calibration boards, why would someone making calibration board if the holes are good enough?
@gunpurrawithlocust6923
@gunpurrawithlocust6923 Ай бұрын
Use of low melt solder helps with this
@kancheongspidergaming
@kancheongspidergaming Ай бұрын
​​@@hollow314woah bro no need to get edgy here, i work with what i have from aliexpress and whatever information i could carve from the internet. We're all here learning something new everyday.
@GeoJad
@GeoJad Ай бұрын
Bro just use low melt solder and they come off @400° in a minute 😂
@HH-xf9il
@HH-xf9il Ай бұрын
Love the diplomatic "for some reason" :))
@sharifsircar
@sharifsircar Ай бұрын
I can't blame the person who wrote the script, they representing iFixit, it gets complicated pretty quickly with PR and working with future companies. What boggled my mind (I haven't spent a lot of time on controllers since PS2 and 360 one on windows) when did controllers get so over engineered, why is there an internal battery when it was previously easily serviceable. This is blatantly shady...
@driver7227
@driver7227 10 күн бұрын
20? Nope, hall sensors cost about 2 bucks. They don't use them on purpose. Companies should be fined for these kind of practices, who knows how much e-waste they generated with this planned obsolescence
@yoho2chn
@yoho2chn Ай бұрын
Big shout out for Alain bringing us the 3rd party calibration tool
@Locked_outt
@Locked_outt Ай бұрын
Stick drift can also be caused by dirt stuck in the joystick and can be easily fixed by pouring some isopropyl alcohol in and spinning the joystick to dislodge the dirt. This is definitely the first solution that should be tested before spending money and replacing the joystick or entire controller.
@Paronak
@Paronak Ай бұрын
When my joystick drifts, i tilt the stick and blow in the crack between the body and stick cover. Works everytime
@Locked_outt
@Locked_outt Ай бұрын
@@Paronak A man of culture
@Merely_an_Explorer
@Merely_an_Explorer Ай бұрын
If that's the case, how is it possible for PS2, OG XBOX, 360, and other console's controllers to be free of that kind of drift? My common sense tells me that older consoles would be more prone to develop drift on their sticks, but not.
@Ice_2192
@Ice_2192 Ай бұрын
@@Merely_an_Explorer Older consoles had a different way of centering itself. They still used potentiometer with a small caveat. They're wired and when you turn on the console and dont move the stick, the console will take the motionless stick position as the center point. If you tilt the stick to the right (lets say) the console will take that as the center point and will read a super left when tilting the stick all the way to the left. Older consoles literally calibrate the controllers every time you turn on the console or plug in the controller. That's why sometimes during that time people will say NOT to tilt the stick while turning on the consoles.
@patrikfritz9430
@patrikfritz9430 Ай бұрын
Gentlemen, you just saved my controller, thank you. Checked and it was dirty af, and I had to blow inside the joystick. No drift anymore, can keep on gamin'
@Fraunzi
@Fraunzi Ай бұрын
Finally KZbin has given me exactly what I need when I need it!
@RedRingOfDead
@RedRingOfDead Ай бұрын
Only 12 hours after I needed it. But it's close enough
@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs
@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs 10 күн бұрын
For easier removal of faulty part just cut the legs from top side of the board with some side cutters. Then you can comfortably desolder legs one by one. Not all legs are accessible from the start, so pry open potentiometers first. Only ones that will remain untouchable will be microswitch legs.
@NormalishGuy
@NormalishGuy Ай бұрын
I repair my own controller’s it gave me a skill to help other people as well. “ makes me a few bucks “ it doesn’t bother me companies don’t fix it, heck more people should experiment and gain more skills. Thanks for the video!
@SuperLuigiGuy64
@SuperLuigiGuy64 Ай бұрын
Same here! The extra cash is nice. 😂
@LeoMessi_Goat8
@LeoMessi_Goat8 11 күн бұрын
I wanna learn to solder so bad,I literally didn't know abt soldering until I had stickdrift and hall effect ones were 128£. I want to learn this and have an extra skill. Wish me luck😅
@Sugurain
@Sugurain Ай бұрын
Tip: Apply low melt solder desoldering wire to each soldered point of the joystick (any low melt solder will do, but the lower temps it melts the better), this makes the whole process DRAMATICALLY easier, even with just a normal soldering iron! After the removal, clean the board pads with the copper wick, apply some normal solder and clean it again with the wick, to make sure nothing of the low melt solder remains. Reinstalling the hall effect joystick is a breeze, takes literally a few seconds, just solder them in place. Calibrate them as shown @ 6:20, and you're done! :) I did this whole process with two dualshock 4, and one dual sense, and literally the worst part was taking them apart, which I had never done before. (though I did have experience with like 20 other types of joystick, from atari 2600 to Ps3)
@rubenhargis5454
@rubenhargis5454 29 күн бұрын
Bro, you lost me. How about I just send my controllers to you, and I'll pay you to fix it? My brain is swelling, lol😂😂
@RKDriver
@RKDriver 12 күн бұрын
Yep. Next level skills here and I know how to solder. I can 100% guarantee I would F this up.
@the-g8-eye
@the-g8-eye 9 күн бұрын
@@RKDriver hahaha same here
@oldrelic78
@oldrelic78 6 күн бұрын
as someone who's done sodering i rather send it to him myself...i'd give him $200 & tell him have at it....i dont want to buy a 3rd controller...
@wisdombright9821
@wisdombright9821 5 күн бұрын
@@RKDriverNot a pro In soldering but I think these are fairly easy with the right equipment. A rework station is definitely the way to go, fixing this would be very easy for me, the only reason I haven’t done it yet is because mine still works.
@kirkanos3968
@kirkanos3968 4 күн бұрын
@@wisdombright9821 Yea this is very low skill lvl soldering something you would find in a soldering kit for kids.
@originsmaster8140
@originsmaster8140 Ай бұрын
Huge tip, but you used wick to desolder the 4 little cables that hold on to the pcb. You don’t need to do that. In you just heat it up, you can just very gently pull the wire and it will come off easily. Then when it comes to putting it back, you don’t have to add any solder. Just heat it again and put the wire on.
@MyKanibale
@MyKanibale 13 күн бұрын
I don't even own a PS5 but I am still watching
@mjp5546
@mjp5546 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making these videos. Fixing stuff is such as easy way to contribute to conservation of our planet.
@larsjrgensen5975
@larsjrgensen5975 Ай бұрын
It is possible to remove the potentiometers from the stick, that could make it easier to unsolder because things can be removed in smaller pieces.
@inendlesspain4724
@inendlesspain4724 9 күн бұрын
Actually yes, just pry them open from the rest of the stick module while still soldered and when you heat up the three joint pads at the same time you can squeeze them out easily. Sadly the potentiometers shown in this video (the most popular ones and seemingly the best option available at the moment) only fit their own analog modules so you still need to desolder the stock analog modules, but at least they feel smoother than the stock ones.
@TDG2Good
@TDG2Good 29 күн бұрын
They'll never solve or fix that problem if it stops people from buying a new controller every 6 months. I thought people knew that everything in the world is about money.
@Someonelse.
@Someonelse. Ай бұрын
Outside of the soldering bit, this seems quite a bit easier to manage than the Joycon hall stick replacement. Those were tricky with all of the tiny ribbon cables and maneuvering needed to get the pieces apart. Best believe I had my iFixit guide to help me along in the process!
@luke2415
@luke2415 Ай бұрын
the joycon modules are drop in's while this requires some pretty extensive soldering skill and is far more risky. in what world is this easier?
@Kaesar_Wolf
@Kaesar_Wolf Ай бұрын
Desoldering old sticks could be painful for people with no skill on that. If you are a beginner you need to invest in high quality soldering tools. Personally after destroying one ps5 controller board that then I used as test I ended up using a heated desoldering pump (70€). After removal and cleaning, soldering the new joystick is a lot easier. Anyway you need practice before trying the board you want to fix.
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 Ай бұрын
Didn't know about calibration gui. Incredible tool!
@lachlanlau
@lachlanlau Ай бұрын
3:02 or the best solder sucker ever, the engineer SS-02
@SonicMastr500s
@SonicMastr500s Ай бұрын
The PCH-1XXX (OLED) PlayStation Vitas also use Hall-Effect sticks. Sadly, they removed them with the release of the Slim
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter Ай бұрын
It's wild that "hall effect" joysticks aren't some recent invention, but rather they were already present on many famous retro controllers. It's clear that these same companies sought to further planned obsolescence by inventing potentiometers, so that stick drift would force most ppl to keep buying replacement controllers.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 15 күн бұрын
The rise in popularity FPS games, demand for minimal deadzones and constant use of the analog sticks has made them unsuitable. Back in the day we just didn't use the analog sticks as much and deadzones were quite excessive too, so pots were fine back then. Sony switched to hall sensors for PS3 but then had to go back to pots to get rumble motors in without raising production costs in order to please shareholders.
@seigfriedmk
@seigfriedmk Ай бұрын
Nice, but I ain't doing all that
@DoodieSmoothie
@DoodieSmoothie 6 күн бұрын
This is really a good tutorial if you want to start learning how to fix electronics. It's not that hard to do, all you need is to have some solder equipment and the work is fun and educational. Im definitely going to try this, default stick is so bad on current gen.
@duckyatsea
@duckyatsea Ай бұрын
It is important to note that it does matter what controller revision you have and what Hall effect modules you get. The first time I installed hall modules into a dualsense, it bricked the controller until I added calibration pcb’s on the other side. Please do research on which ones you need for your revision!!!
@Rayu25Demon
@Rayu25Demon Ай бұрын
hall effect mod NS, PS and xbox controller had a big proble. not every hall effect stick is accurate do some some researches before buying
@suntzuthesecond
@suntzuthesecond Ай бұрын
I use a Gulikit controller with hall effect thumbsticks and I love how they take advantage of the fact that these things never drift. There is a button combination that, when pressed, removes the deadzone in the centre. This makes the thumbsticks very sensitive for making precise adjustments, like sticking a smooth landing worthy of a chef's kiss (or landing warheads on foreheads).
@clarkesuperman
@clarkesuperman Ай бұрын
Crazy that all of this could be avoided if Sony would just put a dead zone % adjustment in the UI.
@ronlevin2339
@ronlevin2339 Ай бұрын
Soon Ifixit will explain how to re-ball and replace an BGA chip, this is how far DY technology is progressing.
@lachlanlau
@lachlanlau Ай бұрын
this repair isn’t even that sophisticated
@XxUnkn0wnxX95X
@XxUnkn0wnxX95X Ай бұрын
at 2:52 what is that round scew on clamp thing called I've been trying to find a name for it but I just cant figure out what they are called.
@KronosX3T
@KronosX3T Ай бұрын
Oh Gullikit finally released the dualsense Hall effect sticks??? Sick! I’ve been having an issue with one of my controllers, but it’s not drift, there’s no ghost input. I think I just need to clean the contact pad better. It was registering max left input when wiggling around the physical play in the center of travel, so adjusting dead zone didn’t help. I opened it up (using the ifixit guide) and cleaned the contact pad and it fixed that issue, but now it’s registering left input when I press the stick in. I need to open it back up and make sure the stick is ok, I remember one of the green covers wasn’t snapping closed all the way last time, could be the source of my problem. Super thankful for ifixit making it easy for me to do my own repairs instead of having to send it in or buy a new one.
@OKBUDDY21
@OKBUDDY21 Ай бұрын
This was a pretty fun project to do. I was an absolute beginner going into this, I did know about this before this video so I already have done it, but if you are a beginner and you are looking to do this, its definitely doable. I had a solder with a heat gun station, and the heat gun to remove the joysticks made things so much easier.
@Sugurain
@Sugurain Ай бұрын
PS3 and drone controllers? Dude, the SEGA SATURN had a 3D controller with a hall sensor joystick. In 1996. 28 YEARS ago. Let that sink in.
@Msound500
@Msound500 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, I did it on my ps4 controller few months ago, work well. Depending board version soldering pads are way smaller than others low melt is necessary & can find even cheaper 2$ each from China … worth it !
@denvernaicker8250
@denvernaicker8250 Ай бұрын
PS4 controllers were the worst
@iiSyX
@iiSyX Ай бұрын
I just replaced a ginfull hall stick and it works even better than the potentiometer anyday, plus the mouse click button feels amazing to press 100% worth it, it's tricky to install though
@inendlesspain4724
@inendlesspain4724 9 күн бұрын
I wish there were hall effect potentiometers that were compatible with the stock analog modules. Yeah, the ones that come with these potentiometers are better and smoother, but the stock ones are okay, I just hate having to desolder the whole analog module when only the potentiometers are faulty and those are the easiest part to desolder.
@KrOOliKakaKaTiaRa
@KrOOliKakaKaTiaRa 15 күн бұрын
“We need more people like you! The right to repair is one thing , but we should have durable items, just as our grandparents did.”
@alistairblaire6001
@alistairblaire6001 9 күн бұрын
For some reason I had a harder time removing the sticks from the PS5 controller compared to the Switch Pro controller. Still got them out though. You just have to be very patient.
@kaysb80
@kaysb80 Ай бұрын
If the controller is already broken, as in has bad drift and are unusable, it might be easier to remove the physical potentiometer thumbstick with a side cutter *before* desoldering each pad. As long as you do not use excessive force or damage other components, this should make it much easier to remove the old thumbstick without burning yourself, destroying pads or other components on the board.
@grivkin2
@grivkin2 5 күн бұрын
It's also anti-consumer to require soldering skills (pretty advanced in this case) to replace the thumbstick. I got stick drift on my Switch Joy Cons - replacing those was $4 from a certain Chinese marketplace and a matter of slipping out/in some ribbon cables...
@joshuafraser8676
@joshuafraser8676 19 күн бұрын
Solid presentation here. The best one I’ve watched. 👊🏼
@JustinBania
@JustinBania 8 күн бұрын
It's only 20 dollars more per controller for us. The big companies ordering those parts in batches of 10k plus... It's more like 8-12 dollars per controller. It's pretty clear that peripheral sales is why they don't change.
@jorelplay8738
@jorelplay8738 9 күн бұрын
There are literally $30 controllers that have Hall effect sticks, so the price isn’t the reason. Buying a new $70 controller every year is better for console manufacturers than making a durable version for $80. Especially when 3rd parties aren’t allowed to make controllers for ps5 and Xbox x|s
@skaleee1207
@skaleee1207 9 күн бұрын
Works also with xbox and switch controllers, though they need other calibration software. I was able to manually calibrate the switch pro controller by changing the factory stick settings using Joycon toolkit. Can recommend.
@zacharywilliams2904
@zacharywilliams2904 11 күн бұрын
I've been through 5 Dualsenses and a Dualsense edge, all have broken in different ways. A couple launch controllers broke their trigger springs. A few also had stick drift so bad I couldn't get past menus. So I also got a dualsense edge for that to maybe last a while longer, just for the back paddle to break after 7 months, an insanely small metal rod breaks in half making the paddles useless, on ALL dualsense edge. Eventually the paddle input was always being pressed. This is known and might even be more common than stick drift. Do NOT buy an edge. You'll have the irrepairable paddles broken long before you get to pay Sony for a new pair of analog sticks.
@nanodrummer
@nanodrummer Ай бұрын
For the love of God, open shop here in Brazil! This is me, begging. 😅
@stealthcobra1525
@stealthcobra1525 15 күн бұрын
Truth is , by the time most PS5 controllers develop stick drift for most casually playing gamers , it's no longer under warranty, the serial number on the back of the case has been erased through contact with your fingers and they refuse you send you a new one, forcing you to buy a brand new 100 bucks controller to keep playing your games... Why would they fix this ? Only good news is that it's pretty cheap to buy cheap replacement potentiometers off the internet and usually just changing the disk part is enough to fix it for a while at least, you don't necessarily have to resolder everything... But yeah, I've had three different controllers develop stick drift on me this gen on PS5, which is downright insulting.
@greggleswong
@greggleswong Ай бұрын
You're on the trailing edge of hall effect replacements.
@eapleitez
@eapleitez Ай бұрын
Sega Dreamcast has a hall effect stick. They knew how to do it right!
@chrisa6120
@chrisa6120 Ай бұрын
Can you guys link the analog sticks? Or will iFixit be offering them?
@Pd69bq
@Pd69bq Ай бұрын
well, in my experience, heat gun is the most effective way to remove old thumbsticks/joysticks. while desoldering with a soldering iron or hot plate is an alternative, but the process is significantly more challenging and extremely painful imo. melting those solder points is really time-consuming and takes a lot of patience since too much heat can delaminate the board.
@Jestar_076
@Jestar_076 29 күн бұрын
Which heat setting(celcius) do you use on the heatgun? Trying to desolder the sticks, but I'm not really cutting through the lead free solder with flux and leaded solder..
@aristond
@aristond 16 сағат бұрын
asking why to the big corp is like asking them to throw the gold mine. controller in console is the component that does most of the job, get more abuse, so it replaced often than the console itself. so it a "secondary" income for the company (see the quote there, it say secondary but most likely primary), same as printer company that we thought that they are selling printer but actually they selling cartridges. "I'm surprise that they didn't put ID chip in the analog part like apple does"
@kacktustoo
@kacktustoo 29 күн бұрын
Omg that entire proccess just to get to the analog sticks, probably the main thing that should be designed to have the easiest access to. Poor design access and pathetic shelf life of these, it's so incredibly blatent what they're trying to do here I'm amazed they've gotten away with it still. Thanks for the breakdown on this very insightful.
@earlbond2929
@earlbond2929 6 күн бұрын
The manufacturers want a product that have a lifespan of 6 months for stable profit! Its a business!
@LeonardPutra
@LeonardPutra 14 күн бұрын
PSVita fat (OLED models) also uses hall effect, and guess what, they remove it on later revision (LCD models). Planned Obsolescence is real
@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 Ай бұрын
Considering doing the Hall FET mods in my PS4 and PS5 controllers. And if you want the oldest example of Hall FETs being used in the game controllers, Sega Dreamcast controllers have those thumbstick sensors inside - I did open one up.
@3Xero3
@3Xero3 Ай бұрын
Got three drifting controllers. I was really excited at first to find this video... but I'm really not good with soldering 😢 Great vid anyway. Gave me the info to replace a dead battery I had in a 4th controller.
@EternityInGaming
@EternityInGaming 15 күн бұрын
can you do the ps5 dualsense edge the $200 dollar one. The replacement sticks are always sold out lol
@TheRudolph92
@TheRudolph92 Ай бұрын
I would like a link for the software used to re-calibrate the sticks with?
@GritUpGaming
@GritUpGaming 14 күн бұрын
I know. Why show it but not give the link. Weird!
@rabbitkinggod4602
@rabbitkinggod4602 12 күн бұрын
Thank you! My submarine keeps moving off course because of this, thanks for the fix!
@mattymatt022000
@mattymatt022000 11 күн бұрын
I've put hall effect in my joycons made by guilykit and they aren't cheap or reliable. Some came out of the box not even letting you click in the thumb stick... I'm not quite sold on 3rd party hall effect yet because of this.
@coffeedudeguy
@coffeedudeguy Ай бұрын
This will be great for special edition controllers, as replacing those will definitely cost waaay more. And no, don’t just rehouse as that just creates more waste
@Antreas93
@Antreas93 5 сағат бұрын
you have another option you know i just fix my ps5 controller yesterday just open it carefully and clean the 2 analog disk both with alcohol and put it back again works perfectly for me..
@tron0150
@tron0150 10 күн бұрын
All old PlayStation had hall effect joysticks but they changed it during ps3, and nobody noticed until it was too late.
@cy4n_knight_q8
@cy4n_knight_q8 12 күн бұрын
You guys should make a ps vita tutorial it's long overdue but better late than never
@LikelyLagging
@LikelyLagging Ай бұрын
one of these videos for the original xbox elite controller would be incredible
@0x8badbeef
@0x8badbeef Ай бұрын
0:57 3/5 stars, the reviews are terrible.
@davionhuell1827
@davionhuell1827 25 күн бұрын
Mine starts drifting a day ago and honestly, this is alot of work and skill which i have but sometimes you just cant bother with all that. Im just gonna buy a new one tomorrow
@brodisonhplc
@brodisonhplc Ай бұрын
I just experienced this worse than ever with a controller I’ve had for less than 3 months, not stoked on it
@goneutt
@goneutt Ай бұрын
And Sega Dreamcast. Those had Hall effect sensors in 1999
@habbyhouse
@habbyhouse Ай бұрын
Thank you for the detailed tutorial.
@claudioestevez1028
@claudioestevez1028 Ай бұрын
Is there a way to convert a regular ps5 controller into a swappable joystick one? More precisely, is there a way to install something where you can plug in the joystick instead of soldering it? That would be an amazing tutorial, if there is a way.
@snark567
@snark567 Ай бұрын
Money. You either buy a new controller or you pay 200 bucks for a "fancy" controller that makes it so you only have to fork out 20 bucks every time a stick fails. Whichever option the customer chooses, it's still more profitable to Sony than it would be if they made a controller that just lasts. If price was the issue then the 200 dollar controller would just have the Hall sensor in it, however the replacement sticks constantly being sold out shows you just how profitable it is for Sony to keep using inferior components.
@user-zo1kn8ob7h
@user-zo1kn8ob7h 11 күн бұрын
Good vid, friendly, respectable. I don't feel like I'm being talked to like an A hat.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Ай бұрын
We all know it's by design, just that few will actually dare to say it. And if they used Hall effect sticks themselves, they could make it a $5 upgrade due to their bulk buying capabilities. Of course, they would still charge the $20 price due to greed.
@irvintang2751
@irvintang2751 Ай бұрын
Modded both a ds4 and dualsense with them. Been using it for 3+ months now and it’s still return to dead center like it was new.
@RxalisM
@RxalisM Ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on this done to a dualsense edge replacement stick!
@pasttense69
@pasttense69 21 сағат бұрын
I haven’t done this myself, but I’m considering buying a custom controller that has hall effect sensors already installed. I have never soldered before, so i’m not sure how comfortable i’d be. i could try on old controllers i have before doing it on the one i currently use
@F14foreverF14
@F14foreverF14 Ай бұрын
Several of my DualShock-4 are KIA ⚰ due to drift, but my DualSense are still OK. Will definitely grab a few hall sensors for upgrading.
@uramalakia
@uramalakia 12 күн бұрын
I should invest in a soldering iron.
@satysin630
@satysin630 Ай бұрын
It is unacceptable in 2024 that these controllers require desoldering and soldering a replacement part that fails as commonly as the analogue sticks. It should be a simple unscrew and remove a socketed part. Given _everyone_ knows analogue stick drift is the biggest issue on modern game controllers this is just shockingly anti-consumer.
@thewarmwind6171
@thewarmwind6171 Ай бұрын
Amen. I bought an edge hoping that gulikit would make a slot in replacement. They've kind of gone silent on that project. Thankfully, I had the good sense to buy replacement sticks when they were in stock. But my supply is running out and like you said, the replacements are now out of stock all the time.
@kieran.grant_
@kieran.grant_ Ай бұрын
Same, although I did keep a set of drifting joysticks after replacing them. I might just try my hand at working out how to slot in hall-effect sensors myself
@magoleo-pr7if
@magoleo-pr7if 3 күн бұрын
Even compared to other analog joysticks, my Gamesir T4 Pro i bought used and went through a bunch of dust still registers 0,0 / 0,0 while at center, meanwhile my Dualsense came OUT OF THE BOX with the stick jittering even without being touched, i need to set up a deadzone just to play some games
@cooperm211
@cooperm211 Ай бұрын
You guys are awesome. Thank you for this.
@leomysky
@leomysky Ай бұрын
this was an excellent video and very helpfu
@chronalvault8046
@chronalvault8046 9 күн бұрын
You showed potentiometers but can you tell us which one you went with please?
@excrubulent
@excrubulent Ай бұрын
$20 per controller? It would be way less. I was able to get a pack of 10 from [SITE REDACTED] for $20, so about $2 per module, and potentiometer modules aren't much cheaper. If you're buying bulk wholesale business to business that price would come way down, and if these modules were the standard then economies of scale would improve and the cost would come down even further. I bet the cost difference would be negligible. It's planned obsolescence, plain and simple. Cheap pots are an easy way to guarantee things break with no extra work from your engineers. EDIT: Site redacted because YT yeets anything that mentions it.
@Tonysdh47
@Tonysdh47 Ай бұрын
I agreed new controller here in India cost 8k to 9k I had stick drift fixed two time for 500 rupees both times after 6 months drift comes back Then i decided to go for sage controller to fix it with hall effect and spiderman decal pro plus version and back buttons for L3 and R3 from their site and paid only 7800 rupees Which clearly a win than buying new or that pro variant for 18k
@RedFox98841
@RedFox98841 27 күн бұрын
I would like to see a another video for xbox controllers
@sapphireglaceon
@sapphireglaceon Ай бұрын
ive been waiting for this
@samevans515
@samevans515 Ай бұрын
God bless you guys ❤ Thanks for this video!
@Brandflakes08
@Brandflakes08 Ай бұрын
You guys should sell the modules for replacement, too many dodgy hal effect sticks out there with reversed magnets
@CT-yc4gd
@CT-yc4gd Күн бұрын
Ugh. I really need to learn how to start soldering. Don't really have the space for it though.
@slakr2392
@slakr2392 Ай бұрын
Thank you now I can buy the parts for it and fix it 👏👏👏👏
@chettiarsirusraj9501
@chettiarsirusraj9501 Ай бұрын
Would like to see a comparison between the PSP portable thumbstick, X-box controller, Nintendo Switch Joycon's + controller and Playstation 4&5 controllers since the older consoles controllers didn't experience stick drift as much in comparison to the current time period controller's.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 15 күн бұрын
Because people weren't playing WZ for 12 hours a day
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