20? Nope, hall sensors cost about 2 bucks. They don't use them on purpose. Companies should be fined for these kind of practices, who knows how much e-waste they generated with this planned obsolescence
@samadel.a7655 ай бұрын
Sir you have a good point but there's basically nothing we as consumers can actually do Corporates do sh*t like that all the time
@jittertn5 ай бұрын
@@samadel.a765 If there is a will there is a way
@YiJoro5 ай бұрын
@@samadel.a765 we consumers have 100% all the power, it's no different than the citizens (who also have 100%), it's only because the companies and organizations running the business or politics are more organized (usually through force). If we organize, we'd see a difference literally overnight. OVERNIGHT.
@samadel.a7654 ай бұрын
@@YiJoro *if*
@triadwarfare4 ай бұрын
20 is the shipping fee.
@jasonhillone6 ай бұрын
Manufacturers want you to buy new controllers thats why hall sticks aint in them
@or1on896 ай бұрын
HAll Effect sticks have their failure points as well...this video is just telling half truths...
@wendellgreenidge33626 ай бұрын
Exactly
@corniel6576 ай бұрын
I hate that it's true
@MrSmith_6 ай бұрын
Indeed, it's planned obsolescence.
@fostrike6 ай бұрын
Not Sega in 1998, the Dreamcast controller was hall sensor... they still work great
@SqBGhost6 ай бұрын
God, the more I learn about electronics, planned obsolescence, and how cheap spare parts are in comparison, the more I think I should finally learn how to solder. Edit : corrected a mistake
@luigiymario2xd6 ай бұрын
Solder*
@SqBGhost6 ай бұрын
@@luigiymario2xd thanks for the correction. I appreciate it
@cooperm2116 ай бұрын
Yea it's not super difficult to start learning, especially if you start with something larger like audio cables. The problem most of my students have is that they buy a cheap iron that doesn't maintain heat accurately, and then they end up struggling between "it won't heat up" and "I melted everything" lol
@Rain16 ай бұрын
What you just said is why I taught myself the absolute basics through KZbin. I had to start replacing the mouse buttons on one of my Logitech mice because it was double clicking like crazy. Now I'm capable of doing very basic soldering. My greatest feat of work is putting a back buttons kit on my dual sense controller. It takes me forever cuz I'm scared of messing up but I can get it done
@Elriuhilu5 ай бұрын
Do it, it's not that hard.
@Pumpkinwaffle6 ай бұрын
Direct and concise. Manufacturers are clearly at fault here, good on you for calling them out. I was baffled that even the fancy controller with swappable sticks doesn't come with hall effect sticks. What a joke.
@kevinhowe63076 ай бұрын
Yes I've replaced my DualSense edge joysticks twice within a year of ownership. Also had to replace the mechanism that controls the back trigger buttons as the right trigger mechanism basically wore out over time!
@oussama71326 ай бұрын
even the xbox "elite" controllers have drift
@SlartiMarvinbartfast6 ай бұрын
The use of the old drift-susceptible potentiometers in controllers is all about greed and control - simply put, manufacturers want people to throw away old controllers when the potentiometers develop drift, this way the manufacturers sell more controllers. Of course this approach is not at all friendly to people's wallets or the environment.
@divineroadrunner6 ай бұрын
@@kevinhowe6307 Exactly, I was looking at getting a controller with hot swappable sticks only to find out the sticks were the same price as a $20 controller from Amazon.... And the Amazon controllers STILL came with back paddles and a mute switch, like what exactly is the $60 price tag for?
@ItsShaggy36 ай бұрын
If Controllers won't break How will Playstation make money bro? How will CEO's get another condo man?
@jhonrock23866 ай бұрын
One of my PS5 controllers started to drift, after 3 years of use. I repaired it by changing the analog, BUT, less than a year after, the drift came back. This time, I already knew about the existence of these compatible magnetic analogs. I bought a pair and used them on my controller. It has been 3 months already and I had no problem at all. And, to be honest, I'm finding these magnetic analogs more smoother to use than the original ones (I have two controlllers, one with magnetic analgs and other with the original ones). The controller with the magnetic analogs became my preferred controller to play.
@agentreptard6 ай бұрын
Sometimes vibration settings cause stick drift.
@peanutheadrules6 ай бұрын
How easy/difficult was the install? Mine just started to drift to the left and I need to swap out my left stick
@jhonrock23866 ай бұрын
@@peanutheadrules I cant say how difficult is cuz I paid for a professional in this area change it for me.
@peanutheadrules6 ай бұрын
@@jhonrock2386 gotcha, thanks for the response! I’ll look around and see how much they charge over here. Appreciate it!
@quintonmoore87975 ай бұрын
Which magnetic replacements did you use?
@Ice_21926 ай бұрын
I can vouch for the Hall effect DualShock 3 controllers. I have a Japanese one from 2008 and it still dead center till this day. I just need to change the battery.
@TheRealBOBlibob6 ай бұрын
That's good to hear. I was a little worried, because I have heard that magnets loose their magnetism naturally and I have several older consoles like a PS1 and N64. So I was wondering how my PS5 would hold up with Hall effect sticks on the long term of not using them.
@ExecutionerDan6 ай бұрын
@TheRealBOBlibob I'm pretty sure if stuff lost magnetism then humanity woukd get destroyed by cosmic rays lmao. I'm no scientist though.
@Syddy_6 ай бұрын
@@ExecutionerDan no he's right, metals do lose magnetism, but it takes way longer for a metal to lose magnetism vs normal sticks to start drifting
@ExecutionerDan6 ай бұрын
@@Syddy_ interesting. Probably takes decades if I had to guess though right?
@Syddy_6 ай бұрын
@@ExecutionerDan i just did a quick google and the magnets in hall effect sensors are neodymium, which only lose about 5% of their magnetism in 100 years. so i guess they're basically permanent. i was going off like magnetised screwdriver bits that lose their magnetism way faster.
@alansmithee20126 ай бұрын
I've done a tonne of stick replacements on DS4s, I recommend one of those solder irons with a built in pump for desoldering. REALLY helps removing the old solder.
@Pixelchaos6 ай бұрын
That's the way😊
@corniel6576 ай бұрын
Can i get any recommendations?
@Pixelchaos6 ай бұрын
@@corniel657 hakko if you want to invest in a pretty decent one, or go pro with jbc or weller.
@Pixelchaos6 ай бұрын
@@corniel657 hakko minimum, weller or jbc if you really want to invest in some great equipment. I myself run 2 weller wxsmart systems a wx2 and 2 wxair units. Combined with zero smog unit and 6 different solder irons.
@DedoPorno6 ай бұрын
@alansmithee2012 Can you share a link to one such soldering iron? I didn't know there was such a variation. Thanks in advance!
@StardustLegacyFighter6 ай бұрын
It's wild that "hall effect" joysticks aren't some recent invention, but rather they were already present on many famous retro controllers. It's clear that these same companies sought to further planned obsolescence by inventing potentiometers, so that stick drift would force most ppl to keep buying replacement controllers.
@talibong95185 ай бұрын
The rise in popularity FPS games, demand for minimal deadzones and constant use of the analog sticks has made them unsuitable. Back in the day we just didn't use the analog sticks as much and deadzones were quite excessive too, so pots were fine back then. Sony switched to hall sensors for PS3 but then had to go back to pots to get rumble motors in without raising production costs in order to please shareholders.
@omnigizmo4 ай бұрын
I just happen to be a 2M tech and I work with circuit cards and soldering daily. When my dual sense controller started drifting I took that as an insult and installed hall effects. Why stop there though? I already had my controller disassembled so I went and added four metal back pedal buttons and replaced my original sticks with metal ones. I've had it for almost 2 years now and still going strong.
@arthurdefreitaseprecht26484 ай бұрын
@@talibong9518sorry but hall sensors cost only a fraction more than a potentiometer. It was a move to reduce lifetime.
@nerdstrangler48042 ай бұрын
@@talibong9518 Hall effect sensors are cheap. The xbox controllers even use them for the triggers despite the fact that nobody ever asked for it. Because like old school thumbsticks, analog triggers don't need to be very precise. So HE sensors are "good enough". But to offer the most precise thumbsticks possible, manufacturers have moved to potentiometers for thumbstick applications.
@Robbe19845 ай бұрын
"It's not hard to change" starts soldering 😅
@YiJoro5 ай бұрын
Right, makes you wonder why we need companies to begin with if at the end of the day we're doing everything ourselves
@Chuckles91919914 ай бұрын
For real!!! I was like, I’ll buy a new controller thx.
@bittu23294 ай бұрын
@@Chuckles9191991i mean you are gonna buy a new one already than why not try this if it works you save money
@theyoungcolonial4 ай бұрын
Its a basic solder job, thats why its a good idea to take these types of classes in highschool.
@emenesu4 ай бұрын
@@Chuckles9191991Wow. Soldering is easy though.
@asmircar16 ай бұрын
U guys should start selling battery upgrades, show us biggest and best quality battery we can put inside.
@XxUnkn0wnxX95X6 ай бұрын
yeah I know right, i got me a 4000 mAh battery in mine, I got from aliexpress, controller lasts slightly more then 1 day of playtime now ;)
@sirrabhsurya50876 ай бұрын
@@XxUnkn0wnxX95Xwow can you link it please
@SpeedyGwen6 ай бұрын
@@XxUnkn0wnxX95X which is still not much at all tbh, its what my curent ps4 controller holds and it has the original battery, tho I find it absolutely trash taht its barely a day while my old x360 controller lasted over a week of 10 hours of gaming per days with just 2 AA batteries, lipo batteries where suposed to be an upgrade compared to AA batteries, not a Huge downgrade...
@Honir45 ай бұрын
@@SpeedyGwen you play too much use wired controller
@Kamiklase5 ай бұрын
They actually do now! A 2800 mAh one.
@Rozbujnik_Rumcajs5 ай бұрын
For easier removal of faulty part just cut the legs from top side of the board with some side cutters. Then you can comfortably desolder legs one by one. Not all legs are accessible from the start, so pry open potentiometers first. Only ones that will remain untouchable will be microswitch legs.
@Meticulist2 ай бұрын
that was my first thought watching the video, not like Im gonna use those dogshit sticks again lol.
@seuratguy9 күн бұрын
Yes, leaving the bad stick in place will make harder to desolder as it will act as a heat sink. I snip the legs and remove the old stick first.
@leightonboster33322 ай бұрын
I love how informative this video is. Also calling out the big companies way to go you deserve a raise!
@jkdfhdifdsfjhdnfi4 ай бұрын
I nearly gave up on this, but gave it another try. The tutorial makes it look easy, it’s not (as someone doing soldering for the first time). Some tips: Make sure iron is above 400, I had to set to 450. You will need to keep applying Low melting solder and wicking it off, if you don’t care about the existing sensor just tear off the potentiometers , will make it easier
@stealthcobra15255 ай бұрын
Truth is , by the time most PS5 controllers develop stick drift for most casually playing gamers , it's no longer under warranty, the serial number on the back of the case has been erased through contact with your fingers and they refuse you send you a new one, forcing you to buy a brand new 100 bucks controller to keep playing your games... Why would they fix this ? Only good news is that it's pretty cheap to buy cheap replacement potentiometers off the internet and usually just changing the disk part is enough to fix it for a while at least, you don't necessarily have to resolder everything... But yeah, I've had three different controllers develop stick drift on me this gen on PS5, which is downright insulting.
@transformerstuff7029Ай бұрын
"Truth is , by the time most PS5 controllers develop stick drift for most casually playing gamers ," heh depends on casual. With an hour of cod every day I'd call you casual and you likely have drift within a year.
@kancheongspidergaming6 ай бұрын
The board's 6 layers make desoldering excessively difficult since its pretty much a massive heatsink within it. I use a rework station and each stick takes about 2-3 minutes at 500°C to get yanked out. Ginfull (manufacturer of those sticks btw) actually has 2 calibration holes on each sensor (X and Y axis), so a pair of tweezers or paperclip is all thats needed to center the sensors.
@headerahelix6 ай бұрын
Would you be willing to make a video detailing how to do this? I'm sure countless people would be very grateful.
@hollow3146 ай бұрын
Those calibration holes will never be better than the software calibration. The Software calibration is permanent, quick and easy and you don't need open the controller to redo it. Also if those holes are so good of a way to calibrate why did they stop making the magnet adjustable in ginfull v5 sticks? Stop thinking you are smart just bc you know a little. Oh and not to mention Jun Zeng calibration boards, why would someone making calibration board if the holes are good enough?
@gunpurrawithlocust69236 ай бұрын
Use of low melt solder helps with this
@kancheongspidergaming6 ай бұрын
@@hollow314woah bro no need to get edgy here, i work with what i have from aliexpress and whatever information i could carve from the internet. We're all here learning something new everyday.
@GeoJad6 ай бұрын
Bro just use low melt solder and they come off @400° in a minute 😂
@yoho2chn6 ай бұрын
Big shout out for Alain bringing us the 3rd party calibration tool
@Sadenki4 ай бұрын
and all the people handling translation in every language
@Fraunzi6 ай бұрын
Finally KZbin has given me exactly what I need when I need it!
@RedRingOfDead6 ай бұрын
Only 12 hours after I needed it. But it's close enough
@rodney80754 ай бұрын
You're the man. Thanks for calling out the manufacerer too. Absolutely absurd how needed this video is.
@PasakuPasaulis5 ай бұрын
“We need more people like you! The right to repair is one thing , but we should have durable items, just as our grandparents did.”
@azizaababutain192719 күн бұрын
I tried de-soldering the existing joysticks using this method and it did not work for me. I could not get enough solder off to remove the joystick - even adding solder to try and mix the two and make it easier. Definitely need a new controller board now. Hats off to you sir, for being able to do that.
@NormalishGuy6 ай бұрын
I repair my own controller’s it gave me a skill to help other people as well. “ makes me a few bucks “ it doesn’t bother me companies don’t fix it, heck more people should experiment and gain more skills. Thanks for the video!
@SuperLuigiGuy646 ай бұрын
Same here! The extra cash is nice. 😂
@LeoMessi_Goat85 ай бұрын
I wanna learn to solder so bad,I literally didn't know abt soldering until I had stickdrift and hall effect ones were 128£. I want to learn this and have an extra skill. Wish me luck😅
@HH-xf9il6 ай бұрын
Love the diplomatic "for some reason" :))
@jorge696966 ай бұрын
Didn't know about calibration gui. Incredible tool!
@TaxationWithoutRepresentation3 ай бұрын
Thanks. I always wondered why in other videos, they would solder what was already soldered and then use a wick or pump to desolder it and I never understood why. Made no sense. Nice tip and now I completely understand why!
@Alon_Does6 ай бұрын
Stick drift can also be caused by dirt stuck in the joystick and can be easily fixed by pouring some isopropyl alcohol in and spinning the joystick to dislodge the dirt. This is definitely the first solution that should be tested before spending money and replacing the joystick or entire controller.
@Paronak6 ай бұрын
When my joystick drifts, i tilt the stick and blow in the crack between the body and stick cover. Works everytime
@Alon_Does6 ай бұрын
@@Paronak A man of culture
@Merely_an_Explorer6 ай бұрын
If that's the case, how is it possible for PS2, OG XBOX, 360, and other console's controllers to be free of that kind of drift? My common sense tells me that older consoles would be more prone to develop drift on their sticks, but not.
@Ice_21926 ай бұрын
@@Merely_an_Explorer Older consoles had a different way of centering itself. They still used potentiometer with a small caveat. They're wired and when you turn on the console and dont move the stick, the console will take the motionless stick position as the center point. If you tilt the stick to the right (lets say) the console will take that as the center point and will read a super left when tilting the stick all the way to the left. Older consoles literally calibrate the controllers every time you turn on the console or plug in the controller. That's why sometimes during that time people will say NOT to tilt the stick while turning on the consoles.
@patrikfritz94306 ай бұрын
Gentlemen, you just saved my controller, thank you. Checked and it was dirty af, and I had to blow inside the joystick. No drift anymore, can keep on gamin'
@delayeedbms5 ай бұрын
you guys are the shining light in todays electronics filled world. thank you and keep it up!
@kaysb806 ай бұрын
If the controller is already broken, as in has bad drift and are unusable, it might be easier to remove the physical potentiometer thumbstick with a side cutter *before* desoldering each pad. As long as you do not use excessive force or damage other components, this should make it much easier to remove the old thumbstick without burning yourself, destroying pads or other components on the board.
@zackmagic42424 ай бұрын
I just did this myself with the new gulikit tmr modules. For anyone struggling to remove the old sticks, I had better luck with a solder pump than a wick. I also tried a conical and chisel tip but a blade solder tip worked best for me. I still had to add some leaded solder to help melt the factory lead free solder but after using a pump I had much better luck and still used plenty of flux too. I had trouble getting a few legs completely removed with just an iron but got as much as I could done then I was able to use a reflow station to heat up the little bit left while gently wiggling out the modules (a hot air gun should work too, whatever you have access to should be fine). Once the old ones are out its lightwork to put the new ones in, just remember to use plenty of flux and take your time with it.
@sodacan48403 ай бұрын
The ps2 controllers were using those hall sensor sticks also which is why it never had stick drift
@SonicMastr500s6 ай бұрын
The PCH-1XXX (OLED) PlayStation Vitas also use Hall-Effect sticks. Sadly, they removed them with the release of the Slim
@originsmaster81406 ай бұрын
Huge tip, but you used wick to desolder the 4 little cables that hold on to the pcb. You don’t need to do that. In you just heat it up, you can just very gently pull the wire and it will come off easily. Then when it comes to putting it back, you don’t have to add any solder. Just heat it again and put the wire on.
@Suwoopka3 ай бұрын
top notch video here. Everything was very well said and explained. Thank you for devoting such valuable time to spread wisdom about the inevitable Stick Drift
@larsjrgensen59756 ай бұрын
It is possible to remove the potentiometers from the stick, that could make it easier to unsolder because things can be removed in smaller pieces.
@inendlesspain47245 ай бұрын
Actually yes, just pry them open from the rest of the stick module while still soldered and when you heat up the three joint pads at the same time you can squeeze them out easily. Sadly the potentiometers shown in this video (the most popular ones and seemingly the best option available at the moment) only fit their own analog modules so you still need to desolder the stock analog modules, but at least they feel smoother than the stock ones.
@jorelplay87385 ай бұрын
There are literally $30 controllers that have Hall effect sticks, so the price isn’t the reason. Buying a new $70 controller every year is better for console manufacturers than making a durable version for $80. Especially when 3rd parties aren’t allowed to make controllers for ps5 and Xbox x|s
@MyekrizАй бұрын
Nah cap, show me where I can get that cuz I’ve looked and never found any Hall effect for less than 100
@TheNerdWizardАй бұрын
@@Myekriz8bitdo has hall effect controllers for under 50
@MrFakefall25 күн бұрын
@@Myekriz ever watched the video? It's at 0:58 in the very video you commented under 🥲 he says they got released recently (compared to upload date of video, at this point a few months)
@wright96d22 күн бұрын
@@MyekrizAlmost every 8bitdo controller comes with Hall Effect sticks these days.
@faust65013 күн бұрын
One of the easiest mods I've ever done. Great video! I highly recommend a Hakko desoldering gun and plenty of flux to cut your time in half.
@DingoDIDeatmybaby4 ай бұрын
His lawyers definitely helped him with that last line asking if it's due to more need for R&D or blatant greed. ;)
@nickdibart4 ай бұрын
Another tip for desoldering the joystick modules: The potentiometers can be removed independently of the joystick itself. you just need to push the side tabs on each one and gently tilt the cover back. Each pot has 3 pins, and it helps to intentionally bridge the pins together with more solder, so that you can melt the existing solder on those 3 pins all at once, allowing you to pull it off.
@seigfriedmk6 ай бұрын
Nice, but I ain't doing all that
@DoodieSmoothie5 ай бұрын
This is really a good tutorial if you want to start learning how to fix electronics. It's not that hard to do, all you need is to have some solder equipment and the work is fun and educational. Im definitely going to try this, default stick is so bad on current gen.
@anismatar4 ай бұрын
Exactly, and I found comment here to try spraying WD 40 into the sticks so I figured why not if I am going to throw it anyway for new one. It worked fantastically.
@DoodieSmoothie4 ай бұрын
@@anismatar dont use wd 40. It will kill your controller super fast. Find silicone based instead
@triadwarfare4 ай бұрын
You can get a local tech to fix that.
@Primez890227 күн бұрын
@@triadwarfare Its easier than what it looks
@peterpalmer24294 ай бұрын
Wd-40 contact cleaner works wonders my ps5 controller is 3 years old with hard use and it still goin strong
@rubenhargis54546 ай бұрын
Bro, you lost me. How about I just send my controllers to you, and I'll pay you to fix it? My brain is swelling, lol😂😂
@RKDriver5 ай бұрын
Yep. Next level skills here and I know how to solder. I can 100% guarantee I would F this up.
@the-gr8-eye5 ай бұрын
@@RKDriver hahaha same here
@oldrelic785 ай бұрын
as someone who's done sodering i rather send it to him myself...i'd give him $200 & tell him have at it....i dont want to buy a 3rd controller...
@wisdombright98215 ай бұрын
@@RKDriverNot a pro In soldering but I think these are fairly easy with the right equipment. A rework station is definitely the way to go, fixing this would be very easy for me, the only reason I haven’t done it yet is because mine still works.
@kirkanos39685 ай бұрын
@@wisdombright9821 Yea this is very low skill lvl soldering something you would find in a soldering kit for kids.
@KronosX3T6 ай бұрын
Oh Gullikit finally released the dualsense Hall effect sticks??? Sick! I’ve been having an issue with one of my controllers, but it’s not drift, there’s no ghost input. I think I just need to clean the contact pad better. It was registering max left input when wiggling around the physical play in the center of travel, so adjusting dead zone didn’t help. I opened it up (using the ifixit guide) and cleaned the contact pad and it fixed that issue, but now it’s registering left input when I press the stick in. I need to open it back up and make sure the stick is ok, I remember one of the green covers wasn’t snapping closed all the way last time, could be the source of my problem. Super thankful for ifixit making it easy for me to do my own repairs instead of having to send it in or buy a new one.
@duckyatsea6 ай бұрын
It is important to note that it does matter what controller revision you have and what Hall effect modules you get. The first time I installed hall modules into a dualsense, it bricked the controller until I added calibration pcb’s on the other side. Please do research on which ones you need for your revision!!!
@balderm0014 ай бұрын
Before buying a new controller i'd say try and clean the stick sensor housing with WD40, Dualsense is very simple to disassemble and it worked magic in my case, did it on my Joycons and haven't seen them drift since, did it also on my release Dualsense, and 3 controllers from my friends, all seem fixed atm and its been a few months.
@Rayu25Demon6 ай бұрын
hall effect mod NS, PS and xbox controller had a big proble. not every hall effect stick is accurate do some some researches before buying
@3Xero36 ай бұрын
Got three drifting controllers. I was really excited at first to find this video... but I'm really not good with soldering 😢 Great vid anyway. Gave me the info to replace a dead battery I had in a 4th controller.
@Someonelse.6 ай бұрын
Outside of the soldering bit, this seems quite a bit easier to manage than the Joycon hall stick replacement. Those were tricky with all of the tiny ribbon cables and maneuvering needed to get the pieces apart. Best believe I had my iFixit guide to help me along in the process!
@luke24156 ай бұрын
the joycon modules are drop in's while this requires some pretty extensive soldering skill and is far more risky. in what world is this easier?
@Kaesar_Wolf6 ай бұрын
Desoldering old sticks could be painful for people with no skill on that. If you are a beginner you need to invest in high quality soldering tools. Personally after destroying one ps5 controller board that then I used as test I ended up using a heated desoldering pump (70€). After removal and cleaning, soldering the new joystick is a lot easier. Anyway you need practice before trying the board you want to fix.
@grivkin25 ай бұрын
It's also anti-consumer to require soldering skills (pretty advanced in this case) to replace the thumbstick. I got stick drift on my Switch Joy Cons - replacing those was $4 from a certain Chinese marketplace and a matter of slipping out/in some ribbon cables...
@suntzuthesecond6 ай бұрын
I use a Gulikit controller with hall effect thumbsticks and I love how they take advantage of the fact that these things never drift. There is a button combination that, when pressed, removes the deadzone in the centre. This makes the thumbsticks very sensitive for making precise adjustments, like sticking a smooth landing worthy of a chef's kiss (or landing warheads on foreheads).
@markdorgan62163 күн бұрын
Thanks man, great video and I will definitely be trying this on my old drifty controller
@TheRudolph926 ай бұрын
I would like a link for the software used to re-calibrate the sticks with?
@GritUpGaming5 ай бұрын
I know. Why show it but not give the link. Weird!
@ysuri4 ай бұрын
I remember, years ago, I buyed a 20€ ($23 I think ?) ps4 controller of a random guy on the internet, and he switched the joysticks for Hall effect ones, I didn't knew what that was so I didn't care at all, I thought it was just another controller like the others, and to this day, the joysticks still works perfectly, it's just the other things that doesn't work anymore XD, like the X button now just registering 1 out of 5 presses, or R1 just not working anymore. Hall effetcs joystick truly are amazing
@snark5676 ай бұрын
Money. You either buy a new controller or you pay 200 bucks for a "fancy" controller that makes it so you only have to fork out 20 bucks every time a stick fails. Whichever option the customer chooses, it's still more profitable to Sony than it would be if they made a controller that just lasts. If price was the issue then the 200 dollar controller would just have the Hall sensor in it, however the replacement sticks constantly being sold out shows you just how profitable it is for Sony to keep using inferior components.
@Msound5006 ай бұрын
Excellent video, I did it on my ps4 controller few months ago, work well. Depending board version soldering pads are way smaller than others low melt is necessary & can find even cheaper 2$ each from China … worth it !
@denvernaicker82506 ай бұрын
PS4 controllers were the worst
@ronlevin23396 ай бұрын
Soon Ifixit will explain how to re-ball and replace an BGA chip, this is how far DY technology is progressing.
@lachlanlau6 ай бұрын
this repair isn’t even that sophisticated
@suluturnipАй бұрын
Just a tip for people who will be removing the old thumb sticks using the wick method shown here. You will want to introduce a decent amount of leaded solder into each of the joints (the pins and via (hole the pins are in)) before you start wicking it out. This will make for cleaner and less painful wicking. As for the tip of the iron, I use a conical bent tip, but I would recommend a “hoof” style tip, as the flatter surface should transfer heat better to the work.
@mjp55466 ай бұрын
Thanks for making these videos. Fixing stuff is such as easy way to contribute to conservation of our planet.
@GWolfPackA.S2 ай бұрын
great video, learned alot about the console controls and their scheme behind them.
@lachlanlau6 ай бұрын
3:02 or the best solder sucker ever, the engineer SS-02
@HeroVax5 ай бұрын
I changed my stick drift after replacing only the potentiometer myself. Till today it's been many months now without stick drift issues. I keep many spares potentiometer in case it happens again
@seuratguy9 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's not hard to heat and remove the three pins on a single potentiometer at once vs. desoldering all of the pins. Then just slide in a new potentiometer and solder. Fast.
@MyKanibale5 ай бұрын
I don't even own a PS5 but I am still watching
@persona835 ай бұрын
I don't even own any PS but I am still watching.
@MyKanibale5 ай бұрын
@@persona83 chad
@snuffy3574 ай бұрын
i dont own a PS5 but i have a dualsense for my PC.
@likara66674 ай бұрын
I recently replaced the sticks in my DualSense controller with the new Gulikit sticks. Was a great investment, and I feel confident that the controller will last me a long time.
@TDG2Good6 ай бұрын
They'll never solve or fix that problem if it stops people from buying a new controller every 6 months. I thought people knew that everything in the world is about money.
@Physick13 ай бұрын
Its about their cost. There are over 100 million Dualsense controllers out there or more. At least 65 million from the sales of PS5 consoles. Hall Effect sensors are made by one or two companies so they probably cant scale production like the many other companies making normal sticks. So if Hall Effect costs 3-5 cents more each...multiply that by 65 million sold with the console. Yeah its not cheap.
@TDG2Good3 ай бұрын
@@Physick1 yeah it's about their cost and yeah it's not cheap. So it's all about money and how those big companies can make more money. And how the people that make the controllers "need" and want money, the boss or ceo of the company "needs" and want money, the people buying the controllers "need" and want money. "Cost" and "cheap" are words that involve money more often than not.
@kelvinballer79905 ай бұрын
That recalibration is something I still don’t understand but the resoldering of the stick is something I can definitely do except the recalibration.
@XxUnkn0wnxX95X6 ай бұрын
at 2:52 what is that round scew on clamp thing called I've been trying to find a name for it but I just cant figure out what they are called.
@whiskerpallette47155 ай бұрын
Did you ever find what it's called?
@CrappyCar2 ай бұрын
It's a soldering vice.
@CrappyCar2 ай бұрын
@@whiskerpallette4715 It's a soldering vice.
@iiSyX6 ай бұрын
I just replaced a ginfull hall stick and it works even better than the potentiometer anyday, plus the mouse click button feels amazing to press 100% worth it, it's tricky to install though
@chrisa61206 ай бұрын
Can you guys link the analog sticks? Or will iFixit be offering them?
@SuperVMFGАй бұрын
Questions 1. Does living flux after changing modules damage the controller overtime? 2. Can anyone calibrate using that program? 3. Do you always have to calibrate them?
@clarkesuperman6 ай бұрын
Crazy that all of this could be avoided if Sony would just put a dead zone % adjustment in the UI.
@arthurdefreitaseprecht26484 ай бұрын
Not really, it would be just delaying the inevitable. They could act their age and use hall sensors from the get go, it would add maybe 1$ cost in a 50$ controller and vastly improve lifetime.
@Clockwork-Heart3 ай бұрын
@@arthurdefreitaseprecht2648 Then they wouldn't make money on replacements. This is carefully planned by Sony, and they've already had a lawsuit over it like 3 years ago.
@joshmosley2 ай бұрын
This is a very good guide, thank you!
@0x8badbeef6 ай бұрын
0:57 3/5 stars, the reviews are terrible.
@RxalisM6 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on this done to a dualsense edge replacement stick!
@rochellerochelle14884 ай бұрын
00:16 "for some reason"??? Call it by it's name!!! Forced (not even planned at this point!) obsolescence!
@thewarmwind61716 ай бұрын
Amen. I bought an edge hoping that gulikit would make a slot in replacement. They've kind of gone silent on that project. Thankfully, I had the good sense to buy replacement sticks when they were in stock. But my supply is running out and like you said, the replacements are now out of stock all the time.
@kieran.grant_6 ай бұрын
Same, although I did keep a set of drifting joysticks after replacing them. I might just try my hand at working out how to slot in hall-effect sensors myself
@x-vi-slayer-x3 ай бұрын
Dudes just sell the controllers already fixed with this we wanna game not play doctor
@DarkSantos4202 ай бұрын
The company isn’t called fix it for you all 😂😂
@KB-du3rh2 ай бұрын
@@DarkSantos420 WeFixIt™
@davionhuell18276 ай бұрын
Mine starts drifting a day ago and honestly, this is alot of work and skill which i have but sometimes you just cant bother with all that. Im just gonna buy a new one tomorrow
@pmm41774 ай бұрын
Selling you a $70 controller once or twice a year nets more profit than selling you a $100 controller that lasts years. That sadly is the bottom line, money
@colestaples2010Ай бұрын
Great video! I’m actually capable of doing this also, just need a couple additional tools
@dannybananas1324 ай бұрын
80s 90s they made products to be durable and last the life of the product but the last 20ish years companies done a switch to extract more money from the consumer , now they make there products just strong and durable enough to last the warranty period so they dont have to replace it for free instead make you buy another one and then you are in there loop that never ends. if they make something that never brakes then no one would need to replace anything and there products wouldnt sell as much . like really think about it, we can fly to space but they cant fix a tiny issue ,
@rudybertazzo3 ай бұрын
Very nice tutorial!
@Bramon834 ай бұрын
TL;DR step 1) take controller and firmly grasp with dominant hand. step 2) open lid of refuse bin with non dominant hand. carefully deposit controller in bin. step 3) disconnect power and HDMI cables from ps5. step 4) repeat steps 1-2 with ps5 this time. step 5) never give sony another dime.
@IMPengin4 ай бұрын
Can you also use this solution to replace the potentiometer sticks in the replaceable stick modules for the dualsense edge?
@xXYannuschXx5 ай бұрын
FYI: Sony didnt use hall effect sensors for the PS3 controllers. It was a new type of sensor that was superior to hall effect (none of the noise and jitter issues), but it was a little TOO perfect...
@firewater3957Ай бұрын
Can we appreciate this company is just telling us how to do it instead of making us go out there and pay for them to put the things in
@hfric4 ай бұрын
Welcome to Sony PS5 Pad Scam (that started from PS4)... now ask yourself when PS3 had a battery life of 20h , Hall sensors and Pressure sensitive buttons... that made those pads , work still to this day!!! ... why from the PS4 era upwards they do not ? Battery time max 5h , cheapest analogues , digital 1\0 buttons ... to make you shell out $$$ for a pad ...
@irvintang27516 ай бұрын
Modded both a ds4 and dualsense with them. Been using it for 3+ months now and it’s still return to dead center like it was new.
@Craftsman4Life6 ай бұрын
Capitalism directly affects the quality we consumers purchase.
@DuFPV5 ай бұрын
should'nt you have physically calibrated them by using a pin in the axis holes and checking where it is centering in the software?
@DoofusScorpio4 ай бұрын
You misunderstand these companies definition of component costs. They don't mean the hall effect sensors are more expensive. They mean that they will last longer, thus eliminating the need for constant replacement.
@Lill3Night4 ай бұрын
”To get the hint!” Killed me 😝👍👍👍
@akusen96 ай бұрын
eat your joystick, no joystick no drifts
@habbyhouse6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the detailed tutorial.
@DigidiBoom4 ай бұрын
everyone should go and review their controllers for 1 star in as many places as possible !" if we cant boycott them, we have to bring them down on their knees by destroying their reviews !
@Dr_Mario20076 ай бұрын
Considering doing the Hall FET mods in my PS4 and PS5 controllers. And if you want the oldest example of Hall FETs being used in the game controllers, Sega Dreamcast controllers have those thumbstick sensors inside - I did open one up.
@C0mmander6 ай бұрын
The reason why Sony nor Microsoft use hall-effect sensors is noise on the signal line they can’t get rid of. What these third party manufacturers do is to hardcode a dead zone so the noise doesn’t cause ghost input. When you move the sticks slowly, you notice the non-linear movement and jitter. And no, using conventional sticks isn’t planned obsolescence, but simply a non-trivial engineering challenge.
@dmx03526 ай бұрын
Very interesting !
@runninggames7716 ай бұрын
Why is this not a problem on something like the t16000m? That seems like bullshit
@oldasdirt744 ай бұрын
i have always struggled to melt the solder off of the board, no matter which iron i use, even with the braid method, flux etc. thanks for this vid, i now know i need to go ott with choice of how hot my iron will go.
@andretti105 ай бұрын
Lost me at 2:27
@skiy2k4 ай бұрын
You made it further than me
@leviatrus3 ай бұрын
Desoldering is a no no in my book lol
@Playingwith3D4 ай бұрын
I'd also like to see some mechanical buttons instead of membrane. That is what usually goes bad on my controllers. But that has an even smaller chance of happening than the hall effect sticks.
@PrestigiousConman6 ай бұрын
Yeaah, naaaaah. Ill just throw my controller away.
@skaleee12075 ай бұрын
Works also with xbox and switch controllers, though they need other calibration software. I was able to manually calibrate the switch pro controller by changing the factory stick settings using Joycon toolkit. Can recommend.
@renatoszfr5 ай бұрын
Sony needs to get their stuff together and release Hall Effect controllers