How to FIX the HIGHS on any MODELER!

[@BlazonStone]

Some people don't understand that listening to an amp in the room (pointless musically) vs listening through a f.e. SM57 in studio or live, is different things. The modelers are the useful tone from a microphone for use in a mix with a band. The "amp in the room sound" is just for casual fun.

[@misterknightowlandco]

All the tone arguments baffle me. All you have to do to change your tone when playing an amp in a room is tilt your head 😂😂😂. People would be amazed if they knew what their favorite players actually recorded on. For a period of in the early to mid 70’s it was quite popular to crank a pignose travel amp and put sm57 in front of it lol. None of this shyt really matters. We should just really quit worrying about this shyt and just play.

[@tamirkeren6750]

That Guild sounds great!

[@chasinguitars]

Thanks for playing all your guitars each episode.. very cool for gas heads..Ty Sir😊

[@shauncampbell6441]

Just dropped the 4 kHhz and above by 2db while listening to you and this is very nice. I was in the habit of cutting highs above 7,5 kHz, but this is much nicer!

[@markinthemix6055]

Maybe it’s the ADD kicking in but l actually like the high that it seemed like my Kemper was adding. Helped cut in with other instruments. I liked all the sound demos you played. With a EQ and without. Different sounds inspire in different ways and make ya play differently. EQ before the amp block or in the X block of the Kemper 🤔 l need more blocks after the amp and cab Mr. Kemper 😩 Considering the NAMM hype around the new Peavey Decade too. I’m not stating that it sounds good or bad but…. It’s a sound and it’s managed to be a sound that’s made it on quite a lot of recordings. 🤔

[@jamesprice6381]

Duude for your young age ur really good git fiddle player, love it man! dont stop a rockin!

[@lebroucke]

Ive tried EQing my Helix with different techniques and EQs for over 3 years with ok results, As soon as I started using a tube preamp everything was great immediately

[@j.aut.1275]

What preamp and where in signal?

[@dylanjastle]

@@j.aut.1275I’m also interested in how you incorporated it. I think the general EQ issues that some people face are because of their IR.

[@lebroucke]

@@j.aut.1275 The Friedman IR-X ( the BE model is what I used the most) in the FX loop of the Helix

[@onlyusernameleft2]

I set a high cut at 8khz in Stomp's cab parameters and get a pretty natural sounding tone.

[@jeffbateman2339]

So, in other words…. When you stopped using the Helix’s amp models, your tone improved. (That’s what I’ve found)

[@Bridging_the_Political_Divide]

In my Headrush Prime, I have tailored identical preset collections for my Ibanez, my PRS, and my Washburn, all different tonally. An amazing time to be a guitarist! 🎸

[@scottmelby476]

Great stuff. Exactly what I needed, when I needed it. Thanks!

[@dananthony6258]

I played a DAngelico the other day that had that 335 thing and I fell in love with it. I’m using an Ibanez afst75 with a bar on it. Its the guitar I cant put down. I think it’s the semi hollow thing. I love that woody boxy tone for a lack of better words.

[@StratsRUs]

Just use a high cut and low cut. Jason Sadites' method is great.

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Exactly, roll off at around 80hz and 6khz, fixed (idk what Sadites said for freq cutoffs, just what I do)

[@michaelaugust9021]

MORE great content HW! We appreciate you!

[@ckelly5141]

What a great sounding axe! 🎸🎶👍

[@jafo5192]

Thanks for the advice! Great info.

[@timelmore2]

The benefit of the shelf after the amp is that the amp is still producing all of the harmonic overtones from that high end. You get all of that soup without the bite.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Well said!

[@narbran]

Great video and 100% relevant to how I use gear to play guitar.

[@picksalot1]

Good advice. Also important to consider the tone in different scenarios like practicing, performing, and recording/mix. Each may require its own EQ to achieve the best results. In a related matter, KZbin automatically applies audio "Compression" to videos, unless you turn off that Setting. There is a video called "KZbin ruined all my videos" on the Production Advice Channel that anyone making or listening to gear "comparison" videos should watch. It makes a noticeable difference.

[@mattrichmond9264]

Love the Guild! I have a Starfire V reissue that I’m going to put some Dynasonic’s in.

[@AQMusic10]

Could you do an episode of how to dial-in different modeler frequencies when playing through an amplifier versus playing through studio monitors directly through an interface? Thanks!

[@travisspainhower9909]

Digging your videos HW. Keep on trucking.

[@juanvaldez5422]

I have noticed high end shrill on the Helix . Its made it difficult to mesh with it because. The kemper not as much but its still there sometimes. Good tips on taming the shrill. I have a nano cortex coming from Sweetwater . Interested to see how it compares to the 2 other platforms

[@BonkeyMucket]

That Guild is sweet.

[@where_is_christophe]

Solid advice !

[@callaway5148]

So you're saying use a shelf rather than a LPF with a roll-off?

[@jimsimmons2674]

I thought the Mid Bump in a Tube Screamer is around 800hz?

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Maybe, it’s a pretty wide Q so you get lots of low mids and the 808 and 9 roll off the highs so it all feels very thick.

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

It’s like 500-800hz, but mostly around 700hz in my experience, some of them have a hump around 530hz

[@jimsimmons2674]

You just invented the Spooky Scale!Lol...

[@ToneJunkieTV]

I’m patenting it!

[@Ray-1661]

Fortunate to have fractal AX8, and helix, fractal has a quite harsh top end that I've tried to dial out with EQ, doing hi cut around 6k, the helix is more forgiving without having to tweak to much. I also have a few valve preamps, Marshall jmp1 , freedman IR-D, typically much more rounded high end on those devices with no tweaking, still cant beat valves for me....

[@StevenHess]

I need a picture.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Noted, I’ll do the next one with photos from one of the modelers or just do a screen capture

[@jash500]

I’m a visual learner as well (assuming that’s why you prefer a picture). The EQ looks like an ocean shelf. The diagonal slope that descends to the “ocean floor” is often called the Transition Band. It’ll be important to check the documentation for a given EQ pedal or plugin because the frequency knob could refer to different places along the transition band. After the transition, all frequencies cut/boosted evenly. Hope that helps!

[@musicafteroldage]

It’s so funny: Researching modelers before getting mine (Helix) I always heard about how bright they sound. I get mine, and no matter what preset I use, if I don’t use a low cut at around 200 it is completely unusable! I am talking speaker damaging low end! Ces’t la vie 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@rustyshackleford9557]

I'd ask: "where in the room is it too bright?" Once a guy moves around in a room he is playing he soon realizes his guitar sounds quite different in particular parts of the room. In the far back it probably sounds like it needs more treble. Sitting by a wall, it probably sounds too bassy. Ten feet in front of the mains it will sound different than 30 feet back.

[@Eric-dd8bk]

Just use the high cut EQ's omg it's simple. And the highend on the modeler happens because modelers aren't modeling an amp alone in a room, but a miked up amp, and the highend occures when you slap a microphone in front of your cab naturally. So either change the microphone position, or use a high cut on the cab block or a separate EQ. lol Simple.

[@joshsmith7033]

The quad cortex isn't to bright, if anything it's to dark. I'm always adding 3 to 6 db of gain at 8k just to make it match a real amp....

[@ZblockWoW]

Ohio has the flavor of a water chestnut. It’s not too crazy and it’s not the best but… #RelientK

[@ckelly5141]

You mean Ohio air or water, or both?🤔

[@1-eye-willy]

i still havent used a modeler that didnt need some tweaking. i used to use nural dsp and i felt like a gat damn computer scientist

[@ckelly5141]

EVH …..tone chaser; HW…..tone junkie. 🎸🎶; 🎸🎶 💉

[@paulbingham_Creative]

I used to play through a Kemper at my church and it was way too bright!

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

tl:dr; learn to use an EQ

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Yup

[@robertstan2349]

that's the least of their problems. throw it in the trash and get a real amp.

[@Real_Epic]

i have a better way of fixing "amp modelers"... i use a real amp 💀 i ditched recording direct only. it sounds good but i PLAY better thru a real amp. use a direct box to record both direct and a real amp. i use the "bypass out" of my boss tuner pedal for the direct signal. gg :)