How To Flatten a Twisted Board By Hand

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Wood By Wright How To

Wood By Wright How To

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@Grant2406
@Grant2406 9 ай бұрын
Watching this, I now understand why some of my boards start out of flat, become flat, then end up being out of true. Thank you, James. Detailed and concise as always.
@triune_blades
@triune_blades 5 ай бұрын
The meaning behind "tried and true" was especially cool to learn.
@justplanebob105
@justplanebob105 10 ай бұрын
I'm really glad you made this, James. I've only used my scrub plane a couple of times and I thought I was doing something wrong the whole time. It's like planing a gravel road. And it's hard to push. Watching and, more importantly, hearing what it sounds like when you scrub the wood, reassures me that I did ok. I'll try it again now. Thanks!
@danielfasang4983
@danielfasang4983 10 ай бұрын
Yeah the scrub plane sure sounds like it's only being sharpened every few months😂. But that's the reason I love those chanel it's not all razor sharp and silky smooth but the real deal. I had a similar experience with my chisels, I thought I made a bad purchase until I heard James say that no edge lasts long when you're chopping out a mortise in oak.
@davidparry3058
@davidparry3058 Ай бұрын
Wow, I've been looking for someone to provide this exact presentation - inc which planes to use, when etc., and you delivered such great information. comprehensive, clear and concise. Thank you James
@robohippy
@robohippy 7 ай бұрын
No snide remarks from me. I had wondered about the popularity of the smoothing plane. One problem with the jointer planes, 6, 7, and 8 sizes is that to take a deep cut, that requires a lot of brute strength, and even if I am on the Brute Squad, I don't like working that hard.... I tend to favor a very light cut with the jointer planes and don't have to use a smoother. I may have to experiment with your method..... I do want 'perfectly' flat surfaces. I got spoiled with a drum sander, and I had to slide the pieces/panels sideways first to pick one off the top. They were perfectly flat.
@TheOriginalAndBestTim
@TheOriginalAndBestTim 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I know many people say "you don't need a foreplane" but I absolutely love mine - I had to clean up a load of very rough lumber and found it a breeze to clean up with my number 6,
@tomjkelleher
@tomjkelleher 6 ай бұрын
That was a very helpful demonstration of when & how to use each plane. Thank you.
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 7 ай бұрын
After watching this tutorial I finally understand how to flatten a board! Your explanation was great and clarified and lot of misunderstandings I had on this. Thanks for sharing this tutorial.
@spaceinvader332
@spaceinvader332 10 ай бұрын
Thank you I feel much more confident now that I'm not removing to much or to little material
@dsmith1167
@dsmith1167 10 ай бұрын
So, are we going to get a video on the plane swap magic trick you pulled off at 2:29? That seems like a really useful skill.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Lol I forgot I put that in there 😂
@Blackys-Boy
@Blackys-Boy 10 ай бұрын
Well done! I heard (and read) this process explained many times but none quite so succinctly.
@LewHarriman
@LewHarriman 10 ай бұрын
Terrific summary. Clear, complete, but not too much detail. Thanks very much, James.
@gungle24
@gungle24 10 ай бұрын
Love my scrub plane, an old wooden one from Germany, very light and nice to use.
@PedroPereira-ut6pp
@PedroPereira-ut6pp 10 ай бұрын
I like how james hits the really big high spots of flatening a boad! Cheers mate
@salimufari
@salimufari 10 ай бұрын
This is a great tutorial on how to get from even as rough as a fresh froe cut bit of firewood down to a plank ready to finish.
@andrewjohnson9610
@andrewjohnson9610 6 ай бұрын
You should try doing that with harsh low angle light and a camera angle so that you're pushing towards us so that people can really appreciate how deep the scallops are, and how they disappear with the jointer's passes.
@scottswineford6714
@scottswineford6714 10 ай бұрын
Well presented James
@thomashand1316
@thomashand1316 4 ай бұрын
Great explanation for a beginner.
@Heseblesens
@Heseblesens 10 ай бұрын
Very good presentation of the flattening process using scrub plane, jointer and smoother. 👍🏻👏🏻 And not to worry - you do not need to include anything from Rex to make the videos interesting 😂…but the tried and true fact was quite good! Thank you James…and Rex 🤭👌🏼
@kentonward97
@kentonward97 7 ай бұрын
I made one of my number 4’s a scrub plane and works really well.
@cliffwood7386
@cliffwood7386 10 ай бұрын
Great summary - I'll definitely be using this order of operations when I explain how to flatten a board.
@DanielSmith-yu9wq
@DanielSmith-yu9wq 10 ай бұрын
Good video. I've tried making boards from downed trees that I find in the forest. They always come out very rough looking, because I'm doing it in camp with very few tools to work with. You gave me some ideas that might help them come out a little nicer. Maybe I won't have to keep listening to Twisted Sister.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 10 ай бұрын
Really excellent tutorial, James! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@jonmccormick6805
@jonmccormick6805 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Rex Krueger for passing on that info.
@ibdavidc
@ibdavidc 10 ай бұрын
When you were talking about the length of the plane gliding over low spots that it all made sense for the first time. I received a lot of planes from my wife's grandfather's estate, and am slowly fixing them up. I need to finish that and start using them, so thanks too for all the refurbishment of old tools. You would be perfect if you'd just get a better source for your dad jokes... 🙂
@Apillicus
@Apillicus 10 ай бұрын
Great timing. I was scrubbing and jointing thin stock last night for a dresser
@MillerWB87
@MillerWB87 6 ай бұрын
This was VERY HELPFUL!
@GrantHendrick
@GrantHendrick Ай бұрын
Another great video! Thank you.
@rjg6139
@rjg6139 10 ай бұрын
I struggled trueing edges with twist. Applying a similar board flattening method to thin edges was a headache because the geometry of a jointer plane traversing a twisted edge combined with a cambered iron made spot planing difficult. I got on much better with a straight iron applying pressure where it needs to be. Chasing 90° on a twisted edge while maintaining a straight edge is something I've not seen explained much on KZbin. I'd like to see your order of operations. Thanks!
@lanecobb4150
@lanecobb4150 10 ай бұрын
I have four different scrub planes and a #5 & #6 with nice shallow chamfers on them. They are my most used planes.
@Kathyskollectables
@Kathyskollectables Ай бұрын
As a beginner I would like to know a couple things: 1, can I turn any plane in to a scrub plane? 2, can I turn a regular iron in to a scrub plane iron? Thanks, James. Your videos really help.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo Ай бұрын
Yes and yes here is an old video on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYu5mZSae9Skbqcsi=6xxkBGLcBQkwsBeJ
@paco_vazquez
@paco_vazquez 10 ай бұрын
Tried and true video, excellent explanation as is tradition from this smooth channel
@Arboreal_Fungi
@Arboreal_Fungi 10 ай бұрын
So simple this way, Thanks!
@marcbarash6045
@marcbarash6045 10 ай бұрын
thanks James, hoping the move is going well.
@DraganIlich-r1s
@DraganIlich-r1s 6 ай бұрын
Thank you much Sir.🎉
@tommoeller7149
@tommoeller7149 9 ай бұрын
Tried and true. Nice!
@nickmastro9287
@nickmastro9287 10 ай бұрын
Very helpful instructional video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@nodarikirtadze8220
@nodarikirtadze8220 10 ай бұрын
Nice, I'm making windig sticks right now so they should help a lot
@ssrattus
@ssrattus 10 ай бұрын
Thanks James
@cbryantbear6498
@cbryantbear6498 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@american_patriot6218
@american_patriot6218 10 ай бұрын
Great lesson
@billrockefeller5409
@billrockefeller5409 10 ай бұрын
Great learning video!!
@michaeldoto4673
@michaeldoto4673 10 ай бұрын
Nicely done James! No need for a snide comment as KZbin will just scrub it out 🙄🙄
@DetroitSicilian
@DetroitSicilian 10 ай бұрын
Thx James!
@dennismarjamaa6805
@dennismarjamaa6805 10 ай бұрын
Great video, James!
@cfraschetti
@cfraschetti 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! Thank you.
@lorenclifton110
@lorenclifton110 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoy your channel. Thank you!
@thomasalton2804
@thomasalton2804 10 ай бұрын
Very informative! Thanks very much
@youhaveamonkey
@youhaveamonkey 10 ай бұрын
I recently got a scrub plane after years of resistance to it. There is nothing like it. It’s kind of like the draw knife of planes. It removes a remarkable amount of material fast.
@captainnapalm8207
@captainnapalm8207 10 ай бұрын
This is my comment down below. There are others like it, but this one is mine.
@kennethnielsen3864
@kennethnielsen3864 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@robertdavis171
@robertdavis171 10 ай бұрын
I was always under the impression that "Tried and True" came from trying a maneuver and finding it worked, although that is pretty much what you're saying with tyring (try-square) and true (straight). My less woodworking centric understanding can apply to anything from greasing a bearing to taking medicine for a headache.
@ErezCherry
@ErezCherry 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Tank you
@JimHill-hp5of
@JimHill-hp5of 10 ай бұрын
Amazing how that scrub plane magically changed. I blinked and missed it, then watched that section a couple of times. Apparently an advanced skill
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Ok you got me on that one. What happened. I want to see it.
@JimHill-hp5of
@JimHill-hp5of 10 ай бұрын
Right at 2:29 the plane in your hand magically changes. Visually interesting, likely an editing cut..@@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Lol I did not see that in the edit. I switched but didn't mention it. LOL apparently didn't realize it from One clip to the next when editing LOL
@markhalvorson4631
@markhalvorson4631 10 ай бұрын
I thought I was just crazy
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 10 ай бұрын
thanks
@emerald1587
@emerald1587 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this great scrub in practise explanation. What I wonder is, how do you ensure the jointer is set to take about 0.03" while a smother is set to 0.001"?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
You can see, feel and even hear the difference in shavings
@hassanal-mosawi4235
@hassanal-mosawi4235 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that!
@tryingagain14
@tryingagain14 10 ай бұрын
Thanks James. Only problem is you just inspired me. I've got a piece of apple i chainsawed rough coup,e of years ago. Think I'll start flattening one side. Then I'm going to cheat and use my planer for side2
@funhousefibers
@funhousefibers 10 ай бұрын
This was so helpful, thank you!
@Gobagool
@Gobagool 10 ай бұрын
Comment down below! But seriously, you have some of the most informative hand tool videos. Thank you very much!
@sal1964
@sal1964 10 ай бұрын
Do you have a video on making winding sticks?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
I've got a few videos showing that. But most of them are older I might need to redo the one sometime. Here is one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZe5oWx6bdKalcUsi=r1xjRFzgRgUUXKkq
@sal1964
@sal1964 10 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo thank you
@crossedpolars
@crossedpolars 4 ай бұрын
Hi James, I found this useful as an intro to the different types of planes. It was useful to see them used in sequence. My question is, why is the no. 4 recommended as the first plane if the smoothing is the last thing you would do? Is it that beginners will typically work from milled wood? Or can you kind of set it up as a poor man's jack and scrub if you get a couple extra blades? I'm just beginning and haven't bought my first plane, but I'm looking at a Stanley no 4 from the 50s
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 4 ай бұрын
the No.4 is not the first plane that is the last plane. the fourplane is the first plane. I know the name gets a bit confusing. some people call it a scrub plane too.
@DanielCShomo-wo5zh
@DanielCShomo-wo5zh 10 ай бұрын
Good vid, I am a rookie, and just got some planes. What kind of finish can you use on a surface that smooth.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
You can use any finish you want. They'll have different pros and cons.
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 7 ай бұрын
There is a finish called TRIED AND TRUE. It is primarily a polymerized linseed oil. Seems appropriate.
@davejackson5989
@davejackson5989 10 ай бұрын
Great video! What kind of iron is in your No. 4 smoother?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
That is a ZenWu iron.
@bigpoppajeff
@bigpoppajeff 10 ай бұрын
Hope the move is going well or went well
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
We're in the house now. But I'm not going to start getting the shop set up for another couple weeks
@bigpoppajeff
@bigpoppajeff 10 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo congratulations
@myerscok
@myerscok 10 ай бұрын
Great video - thanks for posting. Flattening with planes doesn’t look so scary now. I haven’t got a jointer yet. What size plane is a jointer? Ken Myerscough, Southport UK
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
When it comes to the names of planes it has more to do with how you use it and then the actual plane. But most people consider a six and larger to be a jointer
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 10 ай бұрын
At it again
@Fusion_Woodworking
@Fusion_Woodworking 10 ай бұрын
I made a pair of whining sticks, and they wouldn’t stop complaining about one always being closer to me.
@imathebron
@imathebron 10 ай бұрын
I find it very difficult to plane the edge of the board square to the face. Any secrets or is it just practice, practice, practice?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
It is a bit of skill development, but it is focusing on just hitting the high spots
@rays5163
@rays5163 10 ай бұрын
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but instead of the chamfer to prevent blowout can't I just turn the board around so I'm always working towards the center?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Yes. That is very doable!
@kd5tmu
@kd5tmu 10 ай бұрын
Newb here trying to get some tools on a budget before starting my first project. Do you recommend a scrub plane for someone in my situation, and if so, which?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Generally no. Unless you plan on doing a lot with rough sawn wood. In that case get an old junkie plane and modify it into a scrub plane.
@shakatibu
@shakatibu 8 ай бұрын
With that scrub plane you can really take the twist DOWN BELOW 😂❤
@toshn4151
@toshn4151 10 ай бұрын
What jointer for a beginner? Lie Nielsen is $500, Veritas is $400, chinese premium (like wood river) is $369, indian premium (taytools) is $150, vintage is $150-$200 (but I don't know how much work it is to tune such a thing). ECE wood ones are $250. Vintage transitionals are really cheap, like well under $100. I'm leaning torwards wood so it's not as heavy? Though I'm not seeing any japanese planes that are nearly as long...
@orbitalair2103
@orbitalair2103 10 ай бұрын
I got the taytools #6, works fine. Good plane.
@floredak4361
@floredak4361 10 ай бұрын
I would suggest a 6 Stanley antique. You will learn a lot from your planer during the restoration, respect her and look after it. When buying, pay attention to the iron itself, there must be no rust on it. They work really well, new 6 and 7s can't be compared in terms of weight and handling in my opinion.
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
That is all a personal preference. You can buy an antique for around 50 to $60 at a tool meet, and that's usually the direction I tell people to go. But some people like something to be fully set up and ready to go. A lot of other people really like the feel of a wooden plane. So in the end it just kind of comes down to personal preference.
@johnschmidt2766
@johnschmidt2766 10 ай бұрын
A few “influencers” have made negative comments about #6 planes. So I found one for under $10. A bit of work (even new planes need work), it’s taking beautiful shavings. It a great substitute for a 7 and a 5. I also have a 3 and a junior jack (5 1/4) because they were inexpensive. These work well in lieu of a 4 or whatever. I also don’t have a scrub, but I think I could get the board flat maybe 30 secs slower by just do some swipes high corner to high corner. I am always somewhat surprised at how quickly a board can be flattened with hand planes. All plane irons need be sharpened often various KZbin show how to do that quickly and inexpensively.
@markhalvorson4631
@markhalvorson4631 10 ай бұрын
Any recommendations for holding twisted wood still and level without a vise? I’ve tried using shims with some success, but they often fall on the floor, allowing the wood to rock
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
You can run screws into the bench top or sacrificial board and let the heads stick up by the amount of twist.
@lelandallen
@lelandallen 10 ай бұрын
I'm tired and true. Does that count?
@floredak4361
@floredak4361 10 ай бұрын
Hi there, At this point I have a question that always worries me. Is it normal that, when we say that I have planed the whole of the board in this size, that the planes become dull? The cutting edge of the iron bends upwards. The plane no longer has traction and in front of the chip breaker the chips look like a scraper. With woods like teak or rosewood, this happens after what feels like half an hour. I find this worst on the Nr. 5 low angle. However, I only grind to 3000 grit, without the ruler trick or micro bevel. I think the sharpening works quite well and the edge is really good. Is this normal or should I sharpen the edge more? Sorry my English is not the best, I hope you understand what I mean. Greetings from deepest Bavaria. Florian
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
It all depends on the wood you are using and how good the steel is on your iron but for hardwoods like rosewood that's not uncommon at all to have to sharpen it every board.
@memilanuk
@memilanuk 10 ай бұрын
Some woods - like teak, especially - have a high silica content that can be absolute murder on hand tool edges. Sharpening more often is just part of working with those materials.
@terrychristian672
@terrychristian672 10 ай бұрын
Ok, novice at planing. Can you define the numbers of these planes you’re describing such as planer, scrub and smoothing?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Sorry. I'm not sure what you mean by the numbers. Most planes have a name and a catalog number. Catalog number 1 through 8 are bench planes and then after that they are in order of when Stanley released them.
@terrychristian672
@terrychristian672 10 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo , I meant, a 5-1/2, or a 4 or a 62. All these plane numbers. How do they tie to your descriptions?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
The sizes don't have direct connection to the names. Name is what you use the plan for. Usually a smoother is somewhere between a three and a four and a half. The 5 and 1/4 up to the six is usually referred to as the jack. The six or the five and a half is usually referred to as a four plane but only when it has a heavily cambered iron. The 62 is a low angle Jack though some people use it as a smoothing plane. The scrub plane on the other hand can be just about any plane a lot of people will turn a four or five into a scrub plane. Though Stanley made the number 40 which is a dedicated scrub plane.
@terrychristian672
@terrychristian672 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. What number was that giant long, planer you used in the video?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
There is no nom er for wooden planes. That is actually a Cooper's plane.
@TheDesertSkier
@TheDesertSkier 10 ай бұрын
What plane are you using for your scrub plane?
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
In this case I was using an actual scrub plane from stanley. The number 40. But I turned the number five into a scrub/fore plane
@robertberger8642
@robertberger8642 10 ай бұрын
Life goals: make a board “flat as a board.”
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 7 ай бұрын
The initial chamfering sounded painful.
@drpickle9817
@drpickle9817 10 ай бұрын
Ok so hear me out something like a card scraper but also on a 90 degree angle like a square?
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 10 ай бұрын
What for? I can't see a use for it if I'm honest. When you're jointing an edge, and have done this more than a few dozen times, you can pretty much feel when it's square (your fingers on your forward hand will usually be dropped below the sole of the plane, in contact with the board below and you very quickly learn to guage the angle). Given that a jointed edge will generally not be that thick (the thickness of the board, I mean), it's rare that you need to scrape unless in the case of a severe knot, and even rarer that the scraping will be enough to bring the board noticeably out of square in that small particular area. I don't think you'd ever be in the position to use a right angled scraper to bring a board into perfect square. If you were struggling for square, you'd be better off just putting a fence on your jointer plane.
@Keithmwalton
@Keithmwalton 10 ай бұрын
How to keep it from not moving again overnight?! Twisted boards always seem to wanna move again because of the uneven amounts of material removed
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Usually the amount of movement is well within the flexibility of the wood but if you're working in a high humid change environment you may want to hold off on flattening until you're ready to do your joinery.
@Keithmwalton
@Keithmwalton 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have tried lately to do as much of the project as possible right after final dimensioning. As some one with some physical limitations it can be deflating to put time and effort into flattening a board, be exhausted at the end, rest and find it to be cupped the next morning 😡
@PJRayment
@PJRayment 10 ай бұрын
Here's my snide comment: At the start of the video, you set up the situation where the board was twisted AND too thick. What if the board is twisted but already the right thickness? You didn't explain how to fix that! I think you're not able to address the hard questions! Seriously, I enjoyed this video and learned some good information.
@bobbenzuly7893
@bobbenzuly7893 10 ай бұрын
Another great vid, James. Hope the move went well
@multicoloredwiz
@multicoloredwiz 10 ай бұрын
Snide remark!!!
@rjstandland4459
@rjstandland4459 10 ай бұрын
How to remove the smile from a wooden bord
@martingiordano7616
@martingiordano7616 10 ай бұрын
CDB
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 10 ай бұрын
Comment up above!
@WoodByWrightHowTo
@WoodByWrightHowTo 10 ай бұрын
Someone's always got to hold their phone upside down LOL
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 10 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWrightHowTo nah. I'm just a bit subversive.
@SBZ5809
@SBZ5809 10 ай бұрын
Snide remark down below.
@imortaldeadead
@imortaldeadead 10 ай бұрын
Comments down below
@triune_blades
@triune_blades 5 ай бұрын
Snide remark
@vakimenko
@vakimenko 10 ай бұрын
Comment down below
@MemphisCorollaS
@MemphisCorollaS 10 ай бұрын
Comment down below ⬇️
@davidlynn7161
@davidlynn7161 10 ай бұрын
Comment down below.
@twistedhillbilly6157
@twistedhillbilly6157 10 ай бұрын
For obvious reasons, I am a little concerned about this. How was it determined that the board no longer wanted to be twisted? There some that embrace it as a lifestyle...
@Franco.Ar.
@Franco.Ar. 10 ай бұрын
Comment, down above
@standswithfish
@standswithfish 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier if you just used a power planer? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!🤓😲😝. O.k. I can see myself out.
@tobiasfrancisco5879
@tobiasfrancisco5879 10 ай бұрын
Sir! please use reliable sources for your publication. Who is this Tex Kluger? 🧐🧐🧐 I nearly dropped my monocle. (Stuffy British accent) Post script: being facetious if it wasn't clear.
@dwainlambrigger3769
@dwainlambrigger3769 10 ай бұрын
You must be a cork sniffer!!!
@johncallender6677
@johncallender6677 10 ай бұрын
Comment down below 😂
@user-pm1xf3uu1i
@user-pm1xf3uu1i 10 ай бұрын
Comment
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