How to frame a hip roof. Full demonstration of layout, cuts, and assembling

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Sawdust and Wood

Sawdust and Wood

Күн бұрын

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@brain2831
@brain2831 8 ай бұрын
Excellent kzbin.infoUgkxYGamVaHfdHiPlAQaLa7zkwR02OKpGYDU . I built the basic model with its help and it turned out great . It is intensive and really educational. Ryan got another victor! No one can represent it better than Ryan. Thank you, Ryan!
@SawdustandWood
@SawdustandWood 8 ай бұрын
I don't know the answer to that question I'm sorry.
@helenenonodo1693
@helenenonodo1693 Жыл бұрын
It is a very good book for beginners as well as for those that are already into kzbin.infoUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt A very good basic ebook to keep as a reference too. I like it and the way the subject matter is presented. It has humor and that helps with the reading.
@tallswede80
@tallswede80 3 жыл бұрын
with great mustache comes great responsibility
@AnthonyBeaton-j1r
@AnthonyBeaton-j1r 21 күн бұрын
The confidence is outstanding love it
@ab6565
@ab6565 4 жыл бұрын
Framing side walls, windows and doors? Not a problem. Top it with a hip roof? Before today, I wasn't brave enough to even consider it a possibility; fears of elevated costs for all the waste in materials and those mental images of the roof collapsing in on my new addition. I'm not a builder by trade so thank you for taking the time to give a very thorough explanation followed by the markings, cuts, assembly and recap. Teachers like you help to change dreams into realities for many of us. Bare minimum, we have a greater understanding if/when we're dealing with architects and building contractors.
@martin3911
@martin3911 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is awesome. His moustache, his white shoes, just awesome.
@Timbo4413
@Timbo4413 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better in framing than a stick built roof!
@freedomofspeech9323
@freedomofspeech9323 4 жыл бұрын
Old school. Experience, perfect methodology, without unnecessary clowning. The guys know what they are doing and share it. I appreciate here in Poland. There is a lack of such professionals today. Does anyone know what years it is?
@chickography9206
@chickography9206 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on youtube on this topic hands down. Great job and thank you!!
@polygamous1
@polygamous1 3 жыл бұрын
Your not a chippie mate your a true Master craftsman my hat off to you, hope your Not working but teaching youngsters in a collage, over here we also have our own master craftsmen skill builder, skills you are Both tops s a teacher you just make it all sound so easy Great stuff thanks for posting mate
@AriocXY
@AriocXY 2 жыл бұрын
I'm grateful, good teacher, thanks for your effort, I already subscribed.
@getstuk87
@getstuk87 Жыл бұрын
That dude looks like the most '90's construction worker' I've ever seen
@seymourscagnetti1413
@seymourscagnetti1413 6 ай бұрын
They look like they are from the "Disco" era (1970's). Whatever.
@Saxondog
@Saxondog 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Steel Square used for it's designed purpose. We use sliding levels for plumb and seat cuts...or used to. I haven't pitched a roof in donkeys years..lol!
@royallclark6331
@royallclark6331 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Sir. I would say the negative thumbs down are from the Safety Nazies that probably are not even in the trades.
@dariomendoza191
@dariomendoza191 2 жыл бұрын
awsome Video well explained Thanks for Sharing you Knowledge!!
@scottallen5269
@scottallen5269 2 жыл бұрын
Good video...... you have done good tricks in your skill set. Here’s one... If you subtract a quarter inch off of your heel height on you hip rafter, the corners of the rafter won’t be high. I see it all the time, and it shows when the roof is sheeted.
@paulrobinson5833
@paulrobinson5833 Жыл бұрын
Called dropping the hip. For a 12/12 slope it needs to be dropped 1/2".
@scottallen5269
@scottallen5269 Жыл бұрын
@@paulrobinson5833 have your ever beveled your hips?
@paulrobinson5833
@paulrobinson5833 Жыл бұрын
@@scottallen5269 no but that's an option.
@scottallen5269
@scottallen5269 Жыл бұрын
@@paulrobinson5833 me neither... that’s not in the budget. Lol
@paulrobinson5833
@paulrobinson5833 Жыл бұрын
@@scottallen5269 yeah takes time.
@Youtuberdeportado
@Youtuberdeportado 4 жыл бұрын
You make it look easy. I wanna be a carpenter in my next life.
@floridaalvarado8897
@floridaalvarado8897 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video. I am a woman, so I wanted to know what to expect from a contractor's skills.
@stevenholton438
@stevenholton438 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! A woman by crikey!
@danielwanner8708
@danielwanner8708 3 жыл бұрын
just finished a hip on my garden shed . Was going to do a Gable , like everyone around me . watching your video inspired me . I took it one step at a time ,following you closely . If I may , I like to add for others who are new to this . Make sure your floor is perfectly level and solid . Top plate needs to be level and square . Use nice looking material . I used screws through out for floor and framing . Very little hand banging . Don't overthink it . I enjoyed building the hip on my shed . My tolerance was +/- 3/32 inch ,not sure if that is good or not ,but I like it . Thank you for a great video and the inspiration .
@everleon131
@everleon131 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. . It will definitely help me on my new project! Gracias my friend!
@allenbuck5589
@allenbuck5589 2 жыл бұрын
Man thanks. From. Sc just getting ready to frame my sunroom in.
@willvvillalba2166
@willvvillalba2166 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't drop the hip. Also can you show how to get rafter lengths and make deductions for the ridge. Also rafter tails? I like the way you made the double cheek. Great mock up for demo
@cheewurz
@cheewurz 4 жыл бұрын
Time for a New Blade!
@lukewarm2075
@lukewarm2075 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fantastic video
@jamiepicon8336
@jamiepicon8336 4 жыл бұрын
Wyatt Earp stacking a hipp roof !!! Good video though of a real framer cutting and hands on explanation Not a cookie cutter from hgtv that’s for sure!!
@mikesmithey4882
@mikesmithey4882 3 жыл бұрын
Just doesn't know don't ever put nails on top of your Raptor it will save you saw blades later always toenail from the sides or back nail by the way the strongest nail in the world is a toenail
@juliamabusa7815
@juliamabusa7815 3 жыл бұрын
Good and beautiful job I salute you well done
@dizzieallday
@dizzieallday Жыл бұрын
Can't even count how many times I have been referred back to this video for some reference that I forget 😂😂
@erickeener1316
@erickeener1316 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great video. Learned a few things. Will be back for more videos.
@nitovelez5733
@nitovelez5733 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great video.
@oscarfonseca5243
@oscarfonseca5243 4 жыл бұрын
your level of experience is at another level congratulations you are great
@CybekCusal
@CybekCusal 4 жыл бұрын
Good intro. I learned a little but still I could not do this without watching it again a few times. It looks like the hip rafter tails need a special cut on them to attach the rake/subfacia but IDK.
@andreaberryman5354
@andreaberryman5354 2 жыл бұрын
My rancher has hipped roof with tilted fascia and no gutters with typical 20" soffit/overhang. So you can actually have more fun with your exterior on a hipped roof. Some homes put fun shapes on exposed rafters and fascia.
@spencerdoran722
@spencerdoran722 3 жыл бұрын
When matching HAP or heel height on hip to the common rafter it shouild be marked 3/4" back -ish (for 1.5" stock), where the hip sides intersects wall. Did I miss something? if you did it his way it would be way low?
@AntonyBartlett
@AntonyBartlett 6 ай бұрын
The confidence to cut all those bird mouth's at once. Damn. That takes a DIY'er at least a day. lol. 6:40
@Tharealhansolo
@Tharealhansolo 4 жыл бұрын
This is great information! Did anyone else notice or feel like this video was made in the mid 90's? Look at the truck and van in the background. Did you make this excellent video all those years ago? THATS forethought and planning!
@sronnau99
@sronnau99 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@jasonmcintre3565
@jasonmcintre3565 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he stole this video. The guy in the video is Steve Peters and this video was part of a series he made in the 90’s. ‘Sawdust and Wood’ flat out stole this video and claimed it as his own, he’s deleted comments of mine before because I’ve called him out on this theft as well.
@mariogatica2363
@mariogatica2363 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the cooking kitchen jail guy from the movie " Blood in Blood out " ??
@Cozcacuauhtli
@Cozcacuauhtli 9 ай бұрын
THANKS FOR SHARING
@Webbster77
@Webbster77 2 жыл бұрын
He’s all over the show with that saw, compensating, over compensating, nothing will sit flush
@garethgordon9141
@garethgordon9141 4 жыл бұрын
Started off well but ultimately disappointing; I learned very little. 12/12 or 12/17 means nothing to me and it was not really explained at all. Your heart is in the right place but the devil is in the detail.
@brianfield792
@brianfield792 4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Gordon I know very little about roofs,but a 12.12 roof means for every 12 inches the rafter travels horizontally, it goes up 12 inches, same with a 12.17 roof,for every 12 inches the rafter travels horizontally,it rises 17 inches.which would be quite steep. a 12.4 roof would be much lower in pitch. But the principle here is based on 12 every time. Hope that helps my friend.brian,uk.
@franciscotrelles1254
@franciscotrelles1254 4 жыл бұрын
17 is about the length of the diagonal of a square having 12 each side. 12/12 means it goes up 12 inches for every 12 inches in horizontal length. It could've been 6/12 if you want the roof less steep. Since the hip is the diagonal, it has to go up 6 inches fot every 17 inches in horizontal lenght. If you decided to go with a 6/12 slope, the hips would be 6/17. I hope this is clear...
@wooge3199
@wooge3199 4 жыл бұрын
Just get a Swanson speed square and blue book......he's a carpenter not a Sunday school teacher
@maxdecphoenix
@maxdecphoenix 3 жыл бұрын
This was a practical video to supplement other instruction; it was designed to be viewed as part of a larger course for people who already had aptitude and instruction in basics. It wasn't meant to be the 1 stop shop for how to build a house. Sorry, but this ain't stocking shelves or conveying plates; these are PRACTICAL SKILLS. They took generations to discover and develope, and years of repetition to master. YOu're not going to learn to be a master carpenter from a 12minute video on YT, it's laughable that you even think you could; which is proven when you get in such a tift as to critique this man because you couldn't just instantly absorb his entire skillset shows you view Skilled Tradesmen in contempt. As if it's just some petty occupation you could pick up in a few minutes.
@glenn4452
@glenn4452 4 жыл бұрын
What about you're hip drop,which is a 1/2" for a 12/12
@theroadnottaken9378
@theroadnottaken9378 4 жыл бұрын
also found it strange that he did not cover the two methods of achieving this, so the plywood plains out properly, (hip drop or bevelling), hip drop being the easier of the two methods.
@hellornitti
@hellornitti 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on Glenn, you either drop the seat cut 1\2" deeper than the common rafter seat cut or back off(Double bevel) the hip rafter to plane in with the sheathing and the common rafters. Regardless, you either drop or back off(Double bevel) the hip rafters always..
@tracyannbutt1725
@tracyannbutt1725 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, Love it..feel like I could do this from this video 😀😀😀
@genaroalegria8187
@genaroalegria8187 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thanks
@HopeHope-xv1tb
@HopeHope-xv1tb 3 ай бұрын
This is great
@julianboettcher2540
@julianboettcher2540 2 жыл бұрын
Question i missed how he figured out the jack rafters change by 2'9" 7/8 Incrementally?
@VideoNOLA
@VideoNOLA 4 жыл бұрын
I think his assistant, the one who dances into the scene whenever needed, knows all about "putting in Phil" 25:30
@Cozcacuauhtli
@Cozcacuauhtli 9 ай бұрын
QUE HISTORIA TAN EMOSCIONANTE A HORA UN REFIN Y DEJAR LA MENTE QUE PIENSE LO QUE QUIERA PENSAR A PLANCHAR OREJA
@Pat19997
@Pat19997 3 жыл бұрын
The great thing about this video, I saved a lot of money. I now know to just hire a pro rather than waste time and dollars attempting it myself. Thanks!
@henry-dn3ks
@henry-dn3ks 4 жыл бұрын
great video, i thought he's Randy Johnson brother.
@josepineda7169
@josepineda7169 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!
@juanberrios880
@juanberrios880 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and generosity giving such great input on the roof framing work. Much clearer than my teacher at the carpenter and jointers school, some thirty five years ago.
@SeanOwen-f3o
@SeanOwen-f3o Ай бұрын
what about calculating the lengths of the different components, i didn't see anything regarding
@timbarry5080
@timbarry5080 4 жыл бұрын
I love the bum t-shirt. Great video, too. Thank you
@800Viffer
@800Viffer 3 жыл бұрын
You measured cutting lines with no explanation of why those were the measurements to use You "They will be 2' 9- 7/8" " Me "Why? " It might be a standard thing for a 2/12 pitch but viewers will have no clue as to how go got to the figures you used Interesting, but not a very informative tutorial I'm afraid
@bradleylopez5860
@bradleylopez5860 3 жыл бұрын
No offense but the good old days when white people did clean framing wish i could work w/ them there the good old days
@madcowusa4277
@madcowusa4277 3 жыл бұрын
The only self taught carpentry available at that time (1993-95'ish) was a library copy of Larry Haun's great VHS videos and this guy here whose VHS tapes had to be mail ordered for about $35, if I recall correctly. The late 80s look and clothing was still prevalent. Good times. I would go back in a heartbeat given all the horseshit/fake nonsense going on today.
@craighadenko9713
@craighadenko9713 2 жыл бұрын
the gentlemen in this video does he not have a dvd series and would you know the name of the program thanks merry Christmas
@josemas3606
@josemas3606 Ай бұрын
If we have 30 feet x24 feet hip roof i like to work my ridge 10feet with d comman rafter at 10feet so i have a longer hip rafter also ridge common rafter is that alright??
@ES-fr3yz
@ES-fr3yz 4 жыл бұрын
Understood, got it. Now let me go and ruin some perfectly good lumber.
@defy2598
@defy2598 4 жыл бұрын
Trees the cut them every day
@stephenforde7140
@stephenforde7140 4 жыл бұрын
😃😃😃👍
@uclaalum88
@uclaalum88 3 жыл бұрын
Look at how virtuous you think you are. Get outta here!
@nattyp7801
@nattyp7801 3 ай бұрын
Simplicity with excellent preciseness…….only complaint( WHERE IS YOUR SAFETY GEAR)❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@TumpuoPual
@TumpuoPual 8 ай бұрын
How do you cut hip rafters with hand saw
@JudyFish-x3n
@JudyFish-x3n 2 ай бұрын
Mid Michigan '68 ranch 16"center rafters 3/12 pitch HIP ROOF: PROB: Front & Back of home about 5th Bay from corner ALL bays closed off-HOW DO I VENT THESE?
@andreaberryman5354
@andreaberryman5354 2 жыл бұрын
Single disabled mom. Anybody got a crane and circular saw I can borrow by chance??? 🤔 No-I'm kidding. I only need the saw for reframing my 52" X 52" storm windows. It's not a two-person job either. 😝 I want this man working on my place, please!
@amilcarmoralesdeleon1179
@amilcarmoralesdeleon1179 Жыл бұрын
Muy vien amigo desde chiapas mexico teveo megusto tu
@medeekdesign
@medeekdesign Жыл бұрын
The common rafters and edge common rafters are the same length if I am correct. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKqrpnqIa9Oqpsk
@naimebond8284
@naimebond8284 4 жыл бұрын
He went from a board with some lines to suddenly making plumb cuts and bird cuts with a jig but doesn't bother to explain what the heck he is talking about. Why do so many make videos for people who already know how to do this?
@juliand2709
@juliand2709 3 жыл бұрын
THis video was made in the 90s for a framing class...like 30 years ago..people put all types of things on youtube...haha! Did you just learn to respect a tradesman? Good for you, grasshopper!
@eliassolo4178
@eliassolo4178 4 жыл бұрын
I will work for you some weeks free just wanna learn about it
@openg30
@openg30 Жыл бұрын
You see Billy… I work construction. I don’t think you understand what kind of pressure that puts on a man… makin sure everyone has safe houses to live in… then your mama comes home while I’m tryin to unwind, have a few beers and watch the big game….Well she gets on to flappin her gums and it all boils to the top. I don’t mean to react that way… I just can’t help it…
@iqbalbawa8875
@iqbalbawa8875 3 жыл бұрын
I have hip roof as per your design. Would you be able to do another You tube video to show how to do loft conversion supporting the rafters and removing the purlin on all sides. The purlin are currently supporting the rafters and preventing them from sagging. They are supported by two load bearing walls of the stairwell in the middle of the house. I am not thinking of dormer but just utilising the existing roof space.
@kelsonbrown6461
@kelsonbrown6461 3 жыл бұрын
What about the next roof model in the background? Any vids on that?
@TBird89
@TBird89 2 ай бұрын
No Diablo blades back then 😆 good to see him try explain the common diminish method. Speed square in his pouch never came out… interesting. A lot easier to use and grasp for beginners than using a builders square. But a decent video not over the top and at a good pace.
@lucasled5049
@lucasled5049 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you did not over complicate the process. However, this level of skills are not intended for beginners.
@joelethalcruz4417
@joelethalcruz4417 3 жыл бұрын
This guy looks like the cook in THE MOVIE BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT.
@johnhammm252
@johnhammm252 3 жыл бұрын
In your dreams Pedro! In your dreamzzzzz!
@davidsalais3850
@davidsalais3850 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 4 reals! Good one!
@majormagics5571
@majormagics5571 2 жыл бұрын
What a basic video. He doesnt have to use humor and be silly to teach. I like that, This guy is a great teacher and I'm about to check out his other videos. Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!
@abscomm
@abscomm 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn't explain anything. Unless you are an experienced carpenter your explanation is just confusing.
@constructionsecrets6048
@constructionsecrets6048 4 жыл бұрын
smashing vid. Remind me so much of the late great Larry Haun. Easy for us to criticise. No one is perfect. keep it up guys, this vid is going to hit the millions.
@jimkeith2335
@jimkeith2335 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is Steve Peters I have heard he has passed as well!
@paulrobinson5833
@paulrobinson5833 Жыл бұрын
What about dropping your hip? If hip birds mouth is cut with same as commons then it will sit too high or bevel hips. Probably 1/2" drop.
@SANCHEZFLA863
@SANCHEZFLA863 6 ай бұрын
Simpler times?? I don't think so just smarter and better People they just made things look simple & easy.
@andygee6541
@andygee6541 Жыл бұрын
I am not the dumbest guy when it comes to working with wood, however, I must confess the I am more confused now with your techniques...
@justinmathias2495
@justinmathias2495 3 ай бұрын
Great job with the video but I don't think I seen you account for hip drop on the 12 and 12 roof pitch that hip should drop 5/8 of an inch
@stugunn5921
@stugunn5921 Ай бұрын
This is why I don’t like a hip roof. Very time consuming and structurally weak
@timwyld573
@timwyld573 4 жыл бұрын
That simple jig he has used for the plumb cut is brilliant
@wooge3199
@wooge3199 4 жыл бұрын
We call it a boat
@rexolrexol7893
@rexolrexol7893 3 жыл бұрын
have you ever cut a roof
@wooge3199
@wooge3199 3 жыл бұрын
@@rexolrexol7893 Idk if u talking to me but I got 31 yrs as a carpenter....2nd gen....yeah hundreds....including my own
@Whistlin10Speed
@Whistlin10Speed 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, that saw needs a new blade
@welshman2081
@welshman2081 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I had a laugh the way all the cuts were made using the skill saw, I don't think the roof would last long with all the over cutting, how weak all the cuts made the timbers, also the setting out was not done correctly, the jack rafters should be opposite each other, Being very serious this was only a demo, I think if done for real these mistakes would not be made. I did enjoy these guys they did know what they were doing. Great stuff. Regards welshman2081
@rexolrexol7893
@rexolrexol7893 3 жыл бұрын
you are right i use the common rafter to lay out the hip jacks
@stilowarka1234
@stilowarka1234 4 жыл бұрын
couldn't have explained it any better thanks for the tips.
@quinnhaynie7767
@quinnhaynie7767 Жыл бұрын
Can you please source this video? It’s not original content and the creator deserves a credit
@howard5567
@howard5567 4 жыл бұрын
How about a 9&11 compound hip roof. With just a framing square and a set of knuckles. For a common hip roof is in every Swanson manual. The big trick is having a circular saw that will a 55 degree angle. Or a witches hat hip on a bay window.
@achee652
@achee652 4 жыл бұрын
Mate you sound like a wanker. Hate working with guys like you who think they’re the king of roof framing and that no one else can possibly ever achieve what they can. FARRRRK OFF!
@billpoulos2101
@billpoulos2101 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have ever gotten for building a hip rafter roof. thank you.
@moodfox6024
@moodfox6024 3 жыл бұрын
His shirt says bum. His shirt says bum. His shirt says bum.
@johnmifsud2698
@johnmifsud2698 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I am a draftsman who has to draw roofs line by line. This has helped tremendously. Thanks a lot. Is there one for gable roofs etc ?
@zeymatis
@zeymatis 2 жыл бұрын
Gable as you know is exactly same procedure as a hip but with out a hip, so generally a ladder is formed to give the required overhang from the last rafter either end
@JuanRamirez-kl3vc
@JuanRamirez-kl3vc 4 жыл бұрын
Great work. You cut everything prior installation. How did you get the length of all your rafters?
@achee652
@achee652 4 жыл бұрын
He wouldn’t know because it’s not his video. He stole it and won’t give the guy who made it any credit.
@brianfield792
@brianfield792 4 жыл бұрын
Juan Ramirez if you read the info on the framing square,it will tell you the length of the common rafters. An amazing piece of kit, brian,uk,
@dennissnider3936
@dennissnider3936 Жыл бұрын
Several different ways but using the Pythagorean theorem on a basic calculator it's simple you square you rise and run add them together and hit √ button it will tell you the length of course in decimal form if you don't have carpenter calculator which is simple of course like .25 is a quarter .5 a half .333 a third so on and so forth but you length of rafter on a 12/12 pitch which just put√2 that's a foot for rise and one for run it'll give you 1.414 which is basically 17 inches because the .414 is not 4 inches it's 5 or close enough .42 is 5 inches .33 is 4 inches because your looking at it as a percentage of of a foot
@weldonpinder7295
@weldonpinder7295 11 ай бұрын
You never said how you got the measurement of the hip rafter
@YuriyKhovansky
@YuriyKhovansky Жыл бұрын
I would recommend Woodglut to every beginner and not only.
@Webbster77
@Webbster77 2 жыл бұрын
Roof.. I say again ROOF - not RUF. I repeat not RUF
@mikesmithey4882
@mikesmithey4882 3 жыл бұрын
Get a beam saw already and cut those Raptors in one swipe
@zackwatkins9191
@zackwatkins9191 4 жыл бұрын
Initially I was wondering how this guy was so jacked, every framer I’ve worked with is lean and wire-y. Figured he was a concrete guy. And then he cut the rafters with a windows 98 monitor lol thank god for technology.
@lukewarm2075
@lukewarm2075 3 жыл бұрын
My retired Builder Uncle is jacked also even in retirement he is old school.
@sronnau99
@sronnau99 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@stevenholton438
@stevenholton438 3 жыл бұрын
'Wiry' is good i believe!
@luiselizalde6757
@luiselizalde6757 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation thanks saw dust
@Webbster77
@Webbster77 2 жыл бұрын
Looks a bit rough, over cutting the tumber
@GoitsemodimoMotsaathebe
@GoitsemodimoMotsaathebe Жыл бұрын
What determines the pitch of hippedroof
@Christofuzz-hc9xl
@Christofuzz-hc9xl 10 ай бұрын
Well done, but I use a framing square
@paulwilliams8268
@paulwilliams8268 3 жыл бұрын
Great teaching
@andrewsmith8729
@andrewsmith8729 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the roof built so low off the ground?
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