How To Fume Patina Copper, ammonia salt - Front Door Build Part 1 - Woodworking - Metal

I start a new commission this week. Building a front door for a client's house. The door is made up of solid wood, walnut, and copper. In this first video, I show you how to add a blue patina to copper. This is a similar way you would go about creating an aged look in copper but we get crazy into the Bright vibrant blue. This is how I add a Blue patina to copper.
Here is a link to the how to patina metal book I referenced.
amzn.to/2YvaZcK
0:00 Intro to the design
1:00 Fume Chamber Build
3:55 Template and copper cut out
5:39 Prep and Etch Copper
6:43 Applying the Secret Sauce
7:34 Ammonia and Salt Patina fuming
9:18 Applying the FInish
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[@GardenerScott]

Fantastic! I'm planning for a copper water wall in my garden in a couple years. This will be a perfect method.

[@joshuahasson9687]

MIND BLOWN! WOW!!

[@murohabana9899]

Aplausos¡ Bravo¡¡

[@joesasso7921]

Absolutely awesome can’t wait to see the finished product. As always you never cease to amaze

[@gregmize01]

Beautiful!

[@ikust007]

Brilliant. Cheers ! That is a great customer . Bravo

[@ikust007]

Thank you very much for the book

[@cobberpete1]

Wow. Great effect. Waiting for the finished product. 😊

[@ikust007]

Amazing !

[@Ofageover50]

Looks great so far, I'm looking forward to the build and final product...

[@jumpingjacks5558]

Amazing. I have learned a lot from this video. I hope to do something like this in the near future.

[@jimcooney9019]

So Cool

[@davecurda2350]

Very cool

[@snorhyveln]

Just awesome work here, I like the blue reaction color even with the salt still on it! 🇸🇪

[@Benham_Design]

Thanks, I wish the finish would stick to the salt, but cool results either way!

[@user-dg1pf2rq1p]

Господи это шикарно!!

[@rafezetter8003]

Oh my, I've always loved the look of copper, but that's a whole new level - the phrase "jaw dropping" is a bit of a cliche, but that's what happened so yeah, jaw dropping - how did I not know about this??

[@artistanilbkrishna7552]

❤❤

[@icpfann]

I love this! How many layers of clear coat did you apply? What did you use for the clear coat? What grit did you use between coats?

[@Benham_Design]

It's been a few years since I made this door, so I can't remember the exact specifics. The finish I used was a Sherwin Williams product designed for copper, and I'm sure I put 2-3 coats on.

[@silvermanguitars]

Hey, I've got the book. Are you able to say what recipe number from that you are using to create the browns?

[@Benham_Design]

Let me get back to you. I need to where I put my book

[@pseudotasuki]

@@Benham_Design Dang it!

[@finkasali1181]

haha any update on this? i just got the book too, would be nice to know which recipe number to look into

[@NosillaWilla]

Ammonium chloride is a chemical I have used to get a nice blue color before. It's water soluble! Wish you would

[@Benham_Design]

Thanks, I may have to get that a try!

[@davidshaper5146]

What were you spraying at the end? Lacquer?

[@Benham_Design]

An exterior grade spar varnish.

[@IDPAHoneyBunny]

Didnt find the link to the book you mention?

[@Benham_Design]

Links in the description 2nd paragraph

[@6-V-6s]

Couple questions, can you re-use the amonia? Also did you just "wash it off" with water? Or another secret chemical? Wish you could say what the mix was and put a safety disclaimer. Plenty of channels using far more dangerous chemicals with almost no safety warnings or ppe in the video. But I understand your concern. Thanks

[@Benham_Design]

Once you open the ammonia it starts to degrade pretty quick from there, after about a day, it's pretty weak. There is no secret sauce, and much better explanation on Google than I can give. I rinsed with water

[@grapplergirl10]

So, this isn’t a learning one then.. 😂 What sealed the finish at least? What did you rinse it off with after the blue dried?

[@Benham_Design]

😂, KZbin is no longer about educational content. It's about click bait titles and looking constipated in the thumbnail. I rinsed it off with water, and sealed it with a resin sealer from Sherwin Williams. Sherwin William's marketing department is terrible so they don't give their products actual names, just a string of numbers and letters, so I don't remember all that. But if you go to Sherwin Williams website under commercial finishes, and search for resin sealer you should find it. I highly recommend having a spray both with a lot of air movement. That sealers VOC will put you on your azz.

[@joelgoss6755]

what is the secret sauce? muratic acid and ?

[@Benham_Design]

Here is a link to the book I read that got me started down this path amzn.to/3ffOYY3

[@Justin-yh8gz]

@@Benham_Design Great video! I bought the book from your link and was also wondering what recipe number from the book you used to get the darker browns?

[@Benham_Design]

@@Justin-yh8gz Generating that range of colors is less about the formula and more about the process. The formula is pretty simple. Apply vinegar, sprinkle salt on it, then seal it in a chamber with a cup of ammonia. However, when I did this on a small sample, I got a pretty dull color and pattern. Then when I did it on the large sample, I started to get a broader range of colors. I discovered that on the small sample, I could put the cup of ammonia right next to it and the fumes would hit all of the metal, creating a reaction on the whole piece, but when I did it on the door panel, which is about 6 feet long 24” wide, I had no way of ensuring that the same concentration would cover all the metal. So the result was a graduation in color and pattern. The first time I did it, it looked bad. What you don’t see in the video is that I sanded back the same piece of metal and re-did it 7 or 8 times until I was satisfied with the end result. Each time I did it, I paid attention to all the details and what the result was and started to adjust my process until I got a cool pattern and color. The formula is just a starting point; the result took tons of time. This is not something I can just tell you; there are too many variables; you have to put in the work and observe what happens in your situation on the size of the piece you are working on. Now that you have the book, make every color multiple times, and observe what is happening. You will probably figure out something cooler than what I did here.

[@Justin-yh8gz]

@@Benham_Design Thanks for the tips. I have tried the vinegar, salt, ammonia fume chamber with huge aqua blue results. I was just thinking that spray you used and didn't want people to use for safety reasons was something different that made those deep browns.

[@PsyrenZero]

Please use your guides more when working on the table saw.

[@Benham_Design]

I don't understand, what do you mean by guides?

[@ikust007]

Ouf. That must have taken you a lot of reading /trials

[@Benham_Design]

It was a process!

[@ikust007]

You knew immediately the patina process…?

[@Benham_Design]

It took several test pieces to figure it out

[@ikust007]

@@Benham_Design it must be a well paid contract to be able to take so much time for trials . I am into Stained Glass/ windows /doors restoration realm. And I must sometimes do much research /trials . It lowers a lot my income intakes. But it’s also a Passion…

[@Benham_Design]

If I take too much time on experimenting, I try not to think of it as a loss, but as something I learned for the next job. But yeah, I hear ya. Sometimes it feels like a costly time suck.

[@ikust007]

1:54 why the mask…?

[@Benham_Design]

Safety

[@ikust007]

@@Benham_Design for using the gun?;)

[@mitchmonkey9063]

You bastard, I watch this whole video just have you tell me that I need to buy a book that isn't in my country, just tell us the bloody recipe

[@Benham_Design]

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