I've had my Denon 4700h for about 18 months and really thought it was setup as good as possible for my space. Conversely, I have always been disappointed with how narrow Atmos stuff sounded, and how stupidly high I had to crank the volume. This... has been a game changer. Thank you so much for this tip. I'm now off to re-watch all my Atmos 4k movies. 😂
@kfl6114 ай бұрын
Almost like having new ears huh?
@patelhm Жыл бұрын
Could you guys please do a full in depth setup guide for us new to home theater? On best settings for Marantz Denon AVR for Dolby atmos setups
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
That's a great suggestion! Will work on that!
@4CEYLON Жыл бұрын
Thanks Channa, finally got a X3800H and enjoying the Atmos sound. Especially in music. Thank you for all your advice.
@nigelcalloun8210 Жыл бұрын
Immediately got out of bed and made this adjustment. Denon X4700H just got more valuable with a single setting. Thank you!
@godhand6510 Жыл бұрын
I have the same and just did the same thing and well it works.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!!!
@seantong6105 Жыл бұрын
I have X4700H too, it was off on mine, maybe I already changed it or it was off by default ...
@nigelcalloun8210 Жыл бұрын
@@seantong6105 maybe...
@69Dartman Жыл бұрын
Apparently I'm doing something wrong or I'm not feeding my 4700 proper Atmos because I don't have that option under surround Parameter on mine. I fed it Dolby Atmos from my Roku Ultra, the display says Atmos but the option doesn't show up.
@jedimasterreg Жыл бұрын
Channa, WOW! Thanks so much for sharing this tip. I immediately made this adjustment to my Denon AVRX-8500HA.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@sysalo12 күн бұрын
Thank you! I had a Marantz Pre & Power setup in the States, moved back to the UK (bringing just my speakers) and bought a Denon 4800 (best I could find during 2020) and have felt disappointed by the lack of dynamic impact of the Denon. I just did this fix and I’m stunned at the improvement.
@lequidsnake Жыл бұрын
Dude. thank you so much for making this video. we always felt that the volume has been lower since we last calibrated it. bang on mate. thanks heaps!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
You are ver welcome!
@mikebass2700 Жыл бұрын
I have a Denon and never knew about this setting. It works!!!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@airfiero4772Ай бұрын
I just did this adjustment to my Denon X3700H. WOW, that sound GREAT. More volume across the channels, and sounds like better channel separation. Good job! 👍
@lyons00796 күн бұрын
I am new to Marantz only had it about two or three months and learning how it all works and I always wondered why when I played stuff in Atmos I had to like double the volume I can’t wait to get home and try this!
@allovervancouver245611 ай бұрын
I tried this just now and WOW! All of a sudden my Atmos speakers came alive and my subs got punchier. Thanks for this advice.
@TechnoDad11 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@in_the_moment3875 Жыл бұрын
Just changed the setting. Afterwards I adjusted my levels with spl meter. Sounds great thank you!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@waeldiab2110 ай бұрын
thanks Sir. i have changed the settings in my AVR Marantz
@TechnoDad10 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@Mike-fs3bvАй бұрын
I cannot believe I just learned about this. Now I have to rewatch many movies. Dune parts 1 & 2 and Twister are at the top of the list. Even with the sound low at 1AM I noticed a difference in the height channels. Subs will get a workout tomorrow. What else have I been missing? I have had this Denon X4400 for several happy years. Now am happier.
@BugleBoogie Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a difference! Thanks for letting us know how to find that setting. I did not understand from the earlier video with Joe N Tell. It wasn’t showing up on my AVR-X6700H.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@sportcomputerservices64387 ай бұрын
I went straight to the lounge put in Top Gun Maverick with Atmos with the volume down and went through and turned this off. If someone can give me the reasoning for this option and others to only come up when an Atmos source is actually playing I would love to know! It seems insane to me that such an important setting would not only be on by default, But there should be somewhere in bold letters for every new user of an amp with this software to see! Thanks to you and your guest I’ve fixed this problem and holy cow the difference! Not just in volume but also how controlled smooth balanced and more dynamic the whole system sounds now! Thank you so much I hugely appreciate you putting this video up thank you! You’ve got another subscriber :-)
@TechnoDad7 ай бұрын
Welcome! I’m glad I could help. And yes, it’s a mystery to me why they wanna mess with everyone like this…
@sportcomputerservices64386 ай бұрын
@@TechnoDadI just got your Spatial Audio calibration disc (thank you!) and it’s shown a very interesting thing during the panning section. I have a 5.1.4 with Denon X8500HA. The instant the sound moves from front speakers and starts to move towards the rear surrounds the sound instantly snaps to the rear speakers?! No transition at all?!! I thought it would be still a transition of some kind. But it’s not half way that it snaps to rears it’s the moment it starts to move away from 100% front!? What is wrong how can I fix this?! Or is this just a result of running 5.1.4 and not 7.1.4?! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@olasumbo2663 Жыл бұрын
Even in a small bedroom. @TechnoDad is killing it. 😂😂😂 you can't shutdown a man on a mission!!! ❤❤❤
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mustangfred2006 Жыл бұрын
This whole time I've had this on. Thank you guys. I never knew my Marantz had this as a default.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Seems odd, right?
@mafosa9563 Жыл бұрын
kinda a biter sweet tip! lol! thanks! larry
@zelko0768 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Just checked it and it was on
@georgexydous28919 ай бұрын
@@zelko0768 me too
@Quicksilver19344 ай бұрын
I couldn’t find it in my Marantz settings.🤔I have the 5015. Is it too hold to have that setting?
@buddy305luv9 Жыл бұрын
Joe and Techno Dad did it again. HOLLY SMOKES! That is why my sound is so low. I have to put the volume on 60 to get decent sound. Thank you.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@collincameronviaepicplumbi74432 ай бұрын
Best tip in ages...this really made a difference! Thank you...
@TechnoDad2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@deanm.rosenberg3847 Жыл бұрын
Had already done this - but some great advice! Need to say......HOLY CRAP THE CAMERA! You two look soooooo crisp.
@BudgieBurgess Жыл бұрын
Hi Techno Dad, I switched off the Loudness on my Pioneer Elite AVR and boom definite change. I will have to re-calibrate using Spatial just a tad. Oh, by the way, your new Atmos Video you made is KICK ASS!! BRILLIANT!
@wasmitty10 сағат бұрын
Do you have to recalibrate with audyssey once you make this change?
@jimdouglas617 Жыл бұрын
I tried this on my new X4800H but when I changed it to “off” my volume didn’t change. I still have to go up to like 62 to get decent sound.
@michaelwyckoff7593 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see more of your videos
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
I hope YT is showing you guys more now that I am making more videos...
@dimitrichatzis21695 ай бұрын
Thanks T dad !! You’re the reason I bought my denon Thanks for the update, Yes it was on , I think through the calibration set up . Have a great and funky day ❤🎉🌅🏝️😉
@Jb-hl6dp Жыл бұрын
How do you set that dynamic compression to auto?
@bric7244 Жыл бұрын
I m gonna have to check mine , when i get home. I just had my system professional tuned last wk a 7.4.4 with a mini hd 2x4 . An dam idk why i waited so long to have that done . So much better Separation in the channels, i can actually hear atmos now. I highly recommend these guys cd or getting professional tuned cause it makes a big difference. I gained 30 db on my subs , lost a lil low end but its way better
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Come back and let us know if the professional had this setting on or off.
@bric7244 Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDadso i have the marantz sr 6013 . Go to audio , & then surround parameter. The only thing in mine is cinema eq & low frequency effects . Mine must not have what yours does ! Dam... but my cinema eq is off & low frequency effects is at 0 db
@peterw2714 Жыл бұрын
Just did it worked exactly like you said, awesome. Thank you!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@elliotnicklinmusic Жыл бұрын
This is amazing thank you I always wondered about the volume discrepancy between Atmos signal and everything else on my 2700, but never would have thought there was also compression involved! Mental! I wonder what the perceived benefit of this is from the manufacturers standpoint to enable it by default
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s on by default to make sure people don’t mess up speakers? I don’t really know?
@cwhitchblu Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDadI’ve always suspected it’s to prevent the newbies from damaging their speakers. I remember early in the DVD format some users were complaining about how certain passages in discs like the Matrix blew their TV speakers or their new ‘under-powered’ soundbar audio components. Started seeing more discs include a 5.1 mix and a separate stereo mix after that as well since I think some of the on-the-fly player down-mixing caused some channels to overload if the disc wasn’t mastered correctly for down-mixing.
@dutchgrower29718 ай бұрын
thanks , is this only for atmos, or does it also affect DD+ and other dolby formats?
@AllAccessConstruction14 күн бұрын
Just switch.. This has to do with 4k blue rays.. ❓
@jasonbryan18014 ай бұрын
i just did that change and i do notice the difference on my denon avr thx alot
@TechnoDad4 ай бұрын
Anytime!
@riraider12311 күн бұрын
My question is this just for Atmos? I have just a 5.1 setup with a Denon AVR
@kaifa766 ай бұрын
under "surround parameter" there's only the option to turn on or off the sub, nothing else.
@1pittmanjАй бұрын
I have the same problem and I think it is due to the input. Out of curiosity how do you watch television? I stream and do not have a blue ray player or another audio option setup
@paulbodovinac825720 күн бұрын
I have the denon 4400 and its the same as your only says sub on or off and i stream everything
@AllAccessConstruction14 күн бұрын
You have to do it when watching dolby atmos on DVD.. Once dvd was playing I hit the settings on the Denon remote.. Then the option was showing.. Hope this helps..
@badewannenwikinger25222 ай бұрын
Greets from Germany':) THX for this video.. On my 6015 it was activated, and now...I am waiting for the BOOOOOOM effect:)
@kfl6114 ай бұрын
Speaker sticks, I like it. Thanks for the compression hint.
@sanjeevmoudgil699Ай бұрын
This also comes as Loudness Equalization in many audio devices and also in PC sound settings...yes turning it off makes the sound much much better !!
@georgep23017 күн бұрын
Hello, what small speakers do u use for height? thank you
@desiman0786 Жыл бұрын
Hi.. should I keep Cinema eq off as well..?
@davonfranklin5158 Жыл бұрын
Loving all thr new Vids.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Davon.
@jackanderson2773 Жыл бұрын
THANKS Techno Dad ! We have the 8805a and will look . Best wishes .
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@topandrun126 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing I have to check my settings for that.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@topandrun126 Жыл бұрын
@TechnoDad I have the Denon x4500h and it do not have that setting. Thanks anyway.
@jamesg640411 күн бұрын
Thx it works
@David25522 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Techno Dad!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@mikeschmidt2339 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very helpful
@wrxra1 Жыл бұрын
Hello, just turned this off on my new denon. Do I need to use the setup mic again or not?
@WilliamScott-ug9df Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This worked for me.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@canyonh9 Жыл бұрын
Not on by default
@robertrodriguez90507 ай бұрын
KZbin suggested this video so glad I clicked on it. Thank you for the tip, works great! New subscriber.
@TechnoDad7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! Glad I could help.
@robertrodriguez90507 ай бұрын
@@TechnoDad I just picked up the Marantz Cinema 70s and was thinking I might need to return it because it seemed underpowered. Made this one change and now the 50w is plenty for my small 10x10 room.
@isak6626 Жыл бұрын
Note: This setting affects how the AVR reacts to the "DialNorm" setting in an Atmos soundtrack. With loudness management off, the AVR should ignore the DialNorm setting and play Atmos soundtracks at the same level through all speakers. However, not all AVRs can properly turn loudness management off, even if it looks like it is off, it is not. When loudness management is On (or can't be turned off), height effects will play at a lower level.
@mr.w4904 Жыл бұрын
Game changer. 👍🏾
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
I think so!
@gulamgh4 ай бұрын
Hi how about Onkyo AVR should the Loudness Management be off?
@davidhirschy87616 ай бұрын
Is there a hidden selector for choosing between 4K: Standard or 4K: Enhanced on a Denon X6700H or Marantz SR8015 as is on my Onkyo TX-NR787. Because I’m in the process of returning the Denon because the video appeared soft on my Sony XBR65X950G which wasn’t present with the Onkyo. I noticed on your display of a Denon menu in this video that it appears to be sharper then what I had. 2:57
@jamesbrittain9564Ай бұрын
Hi - that was awesome! I have four Polk R700's as my front and rear speakers in a 7.2.4 configuration. I have a Denon AVR-X8500HA and I cannot get the settings to allow for me to set the rear speakers to large. It just wont do it. Rear speakers just default to small. I don't know if you do consulting or not, but I would gladly pay for your time to walk me thru how to do this.
@MrRyadav39 күн бұрын
I don't get the Loudness Management Option under Sound Parameters on my Denon 2800H AVR. Is it because I'm on DTS and not Dolby Digital? Thanks.
@victormuriel7266 Жыл бұрын
Great video and great t shirt 👍🏻
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ListenToTheNEST Жыл бұрын
So did you have the compression on the whole time you've had that receiver?
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Yes…
@mjbalog Жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no clue this was on my default. I thought my atmos was good, but now it sounds perfect!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@mikeb4839 Жыл бұрын
Just do this now? or do it then run spl meter?
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
You won’t need to run an SPL meter
@craigosterberg5045 Жыл бұрын
That was a great tip. Thanks
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
No problem!
@quandam21627 ай бұрын
Cool, I could tell the diference by turned the surround parameter off. What is your view on Dynamic Volume within the Audyssey Volume? Should it set off as well? This feature automatically adjusting between quiet and lound passages, would this feature decompress the sound signals?
@michaelnagy298 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Edog1337 Жыл бұрын
thanks for tip, will have to check my Denon
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Giddy-up!
@ocaudiophile Жыл бұрын
It's not compression, it's the "dialnorm" setting embedded in the Atmos metadata that causes loudness management to dim the volume.
@southpaw999510 ай бұрын
I was going to mention this as well. It’s why the default setting is on with compression off.
@rjl8319 Жыл бұрын
Does it work without the cal dvd?
@hi-fihaven2257 Жыл бұрын
Hey Channa thanks for the heads up. My 😎Marantz SR-5015 had it on default. Turned it off then played the beginning scene of Morbius when the bats come flying out of the cave. WOW!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Ayyy! Great to hear!
@jonsanchez1623 Жыл бұрын
You're the Best TD 🎉🔊🎊 Thanks!
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Snoopi.7 Жыл бұрын
To see this option do you need to be playing atoms content?
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Correct!
@Snoopi.7 Жыл бұрын
Mine was on! grr!!
@charlesgreen4172 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon TD. I want to complete a major calibration. However, with Dirac Live, Dirac Bass Control. Mini DSP, and your Spatial Audio Calibration. I'm a little confused. Do I need to Dirac Live and Dirac Bass Control, then use your disc??
@TwoTracksOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Am wondering if there is way to fix audio delay (lip sync) on Denon AVR-X3600h receiver????
@franksmith9902 Жыл бұрын
I've recently made comments about how much better Auro 3D is over Atmos. With this setting of loud management turned off, would you say that Atmos is now on par with Auro 3D? What is your preferred upmixer now?
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
I'm still using Auro-3D for a lot of things. Again, since I left my home, I was not able to get a lot of my physical media or my hard drives with all my movies. It's hard to say unless I have some content to watch.
@franksmith9902 Жыл бұрын
I just got a chance to compare the two outputs, and to me the Auro 3D still stands out, but have loud management off does improve the Atmos experience.
@Antimonkat Жыл бұрын
Dude, I had no idea this was a thing. I changed it, didn't notice much differnce in the clip I had on, but yeah I don't want it compressing my dynamic range so shut it right off. Thanks guys.
@MrNicodemus119 ай бұрын
will this be the same for the Onkyo rz50 ?
@Benjimikey4 күн бұрын
i have a marantz cd6007 connected to Marantz A/V for music but I want more bass when listening to my CD's can I adjust the bass in the A/V
@marynarz77398 ай бұрын
Don’t have that settings on my Marantz cinema 70s
@guyhickey3343 Жыл бұрын
Does it work if Audyssey isn’t on?
@patryan8335 Жыл бұрын
I have a Marantz SR6013 and sadly i dont see this, all i see is the cinema EQ? I have a 7.2.4 system?
@ronaldjoint116917 күн бұрын
Hi Techno Dad I have a Denon avr x 4800h. I do not see this option. what to do my sound level is so low, I have to always be 60 and up to have decent volume. Please help.
@TechnoDad17 күн бұрын
Did you send a Dolby Atmos signal to the AVR first?
@slowinfastout330410 ай бұрын
I have a stereo system with a 2 channel integrated amplifier. Thinking of getting an AVR with preouts to add .1 channel and increase dialogue levels without adding a center channel. Will dialogue enhancer or dialogue normalization correction offset features help? Thanks!
@albertgomez685510 ай бұрын
Will try it when I get home
@TechnoDad9 ай бұрын
Woot!
@asafblasbergvideographer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. My loudness enhancement was already set to OFF on my Pioneer VSX-LX305. It's a good thing that Pioneer makes this the default, out of the box setting :)
@joemilanczuk7522 Жыл бұрын
How is the 305 iv been eyeing it is it a solid avr or do you have problems at all with it
@asafblasbergvideographer Жыл бұрын
@@joemilanczuk7522 I absolutely love it. It is a fantastic receiver. Excellent sound.
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@asafblasbergvideographer Жыл бұрын
Question for you: what is more effective - Dolby speakers from the ceiling or the firing-up versions?
@franksmith9902 Жыл бұрын
From the ceiling for sure!
@tomangus65573 ай бұрын
I’m assuming this won’t work unless you have atmos speakers?? Can you still select atmos to use this setting without affecting the other speakers? Or will the room correction stop you from proceeding? Thanks
@TechnoDad2 ай бұрын
I mean, you would have to trick the AVR to thinking there’s an Atmos speakers and then send an Atmos signal just to get into this menu item.
@carlosbucio6869 Жыл бұрын
Will it work for a preamplifier too?
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
I don’t see why not. Haven’t checked, though…
@carlosbucio6869 Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad I’ll have to check when I get back home from work. Thanks!
@carlosbucio6869 Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad I finally got a chance to change the settings on my preamplifier. What a huge difference in sound!
@equalleftrights313015 күн бұрын
I have a question Techno Pops. I have a 4k tv, but an older yamaha av receiver that I love. Its only 1080p so I can't get 4k video if I connect the tv to the receiver. I've read that if I connect it with a toslink optical cable from the tv out to the receiver's optical, that I will be able to get sound through the receiver and also get 4k video. I hooked up an hdmi cable from the tv's ardac or whatever its called, out to the receiver's rdac input and get sound now, but only the two front speakers. I will be buying a new receiver that does 4k and 8k, but I dont know which one yet. In the meantime, I'd like to know if going the optical route will give 5.1 sound.
@carlos.a.b Жыл бұрын
Nice shirt, thanks for the tip 👍🏼
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@Squishmallows246 ай бұрын
But wait, how do you actually set new db levels? Using the pink noise from the denon receiver or the pink noise from the disc you are playing?
@GeekCulture101 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to check this on my Pioneer. Ive noticed atmos is always quiet. Especially on dialog
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Yes, please do! Also, let me know where it is in the Pioneer menu. I don't have my Pioneer anymore...
@GeekCulture101 Жыл бұрын
Its under audio adjust in the dolby section. Mine was already off. I'm not real thrilled with my pioneer in general. Was hoping it was part of the issue.
@jesseroman311 ай бұрын
Ok Done but do you have to re-calibrate the speakers using the SPL meter ???
@TechnoDad11 ай бұрын
It's up to you, but I probably would.
@alanewens17633 ай бұрын
A good find - for many years I've used my Marantz in home cinema mode for movies etc. Now I've hooked up a turntable and while "source direct" sounds fine I would still like to tweak the bass and treble options. It's taking me a while to get my head round it - any quick tips so treble/bass can be adjusted?
@TechnoDad3 ай бұрын
Hi! Thank you for watching! Press the option button to access treble and bass control for whatever input you have. I’m not sure Direct will allow that, though…
@KillerSneak Жыл бұрын
This will only work on newer systems? As how will I get my UI on screen with a 4k signal playing with atmos?
@KillerSneak Жыл бұрын
What I’m saying is older receivers with atmos don’t have a 4k compatible gui/ui
@KillerSneak Жыл бұрын
Already had these off it seems, it can be done by using the front display of the receiver (for anybody wondering) I don’t think you actually need atmos running for this to be enabled or disabled.
@garcirx410 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@TechnoDad9 ай бұрын
Anytime!
@LynnFitzgerald-u7e2 ай бұрын
Made the adjustment on my Marantz 7703 it made no difference. Did I miss something?
@jeffmueller8431 Жыл бұрын
My denon reveiver under surround parameter only has cinema eq on or off?
@mikeh6102 Жыл бұрын
Does this work on the 3600H?
@Dingo-de7yu Жыл бұрын
Hey Techno Dad! I’m cooling my jets while I await arrival of my spatial audio calibration disk - thank you in advance!! - is this change (turning loudness management off) something that just needs to be done once?I have a marantz av7706. So if I get this right, insert atmos disk into player, enter setup on AVR, select audio, select surround parameters, turn off loudness management and cinema eq, exit out from menu? Thanks again!
@chrisohrling149 Жыл бұрын
Can I ask you what receiver you are using on this video is it denon or marantz
@TechnoDad Жыл бұрын
Denon X6700H
@chrisohrling149 Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoDad hi I have another question to ask you I am in the process of buying a Marantz SR4003 Receiver and I want to know if it would be worth the buy please let me know if I should buy it or not it doesn't come with the auddessy mic and the remote doesn't work and I need to know if it is a good Receiver or not please let me know bud thank you
@kaneserver2 ай бұрын
Would compression not just decrease the difference in volume between the quietest and loudest sounds in the sound track? I did the advised, i didn't really notice a difference, but its not clear what difference i should be hearing. "More sound" and "the most sound" doesn't really explain it. Is there anymore information on this, what the setting actually does and what difference it makes being on or off? I couldn't find a video on Joe n Tell's channel.
@manasil20092009 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Sir Im using auro 3d in denon 4700h amp . Im having 7.2.6 with external amp. My query is 1) my subwoofer setting is LFE+main. Should i make it LFE 2) my front and cantre speaker is set to large. Should i put to small 3)my surround cross over is 110 and rest all is 80.should i make all to 80.im using klipsch speakers 4)finally why low sound coming from front middle and rear height speakers when volume is fine
@burninator1983 Жыл бұрын
I leave Loudness Management turned off on my Pioneer receiver too