How To Give Yourself Best Chance of Farming Mirrors | Correcting Harbinger Misinformation [PoE 3.24]

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SteadyPlaying

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@thatguywastakenagain
@thatguywastakenagain 5 ай бұрын
A little QoL tip for the farming of shards: If you hit Z you dont see the filter anymore, but if you hover over the place where an item is on the floor it still pops up for you to pick up. because shards are dropped all at the same location you can just let you mouse on the same spot and spamclick to loot the splinters
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
It gives me a slight delay per click when I do this for some reason. Not sure if its my internet or what.
@RossWasTaken
@RossWasTaken 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying Yeah theres a delay if you spam click as fast as you can, but theres a rhythm you can get into with your clicks which seems to speed it up slightly if you click as soon as the next item pops up (but maybe its placebo?)
@Kaluka101
@Kaluka101 5 ай бұрын
holy shit bro thank you for this, was running garbage altars, scarabs, with deli mirror and harbis. Figured I was missing something and people really putting out mis info, made like 30 div in the past 30-40 maps off of fracturing orbs. I know that's probably really lucky, but it's thanks to you I got some stonks now
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Aha great to hear! Let's all get rich tbh
@nathanricher5752
@nathanricher5752 4 ай бұрын
Man the music is killing me lmao
@SWTORDREKKIN
@SWTORDREKKIN 3 ай бұрын
I know this video was made 2 months ago, but I just found this video. I'll offer my opinion on it. I personally think the discernment scarab is bait. I have ran at least 2,000 maps with dedicate harbinger and about 1/2 of those were with your scarab setup. So, my opinion is that, assuming you have unlimited time and you are willing to play that strat over and over, yes it will probably win out because eventually you will hit the "mirror" shard explosion. But I can confidently say 95% of players who run 1K maps with this strat is not going to drop mirror shards. Now, lets take the mirror shards off the table for focus on the next best: fracturing. Well, here is the thing, it seems to need around 75-100 maps to hit a fracturing shard explosion, which grants around 4 orbs on average, but if you run without the discernment scarab and replace it with another regular scarab, I seem too get around 4-8 (6 is average, since 3+3) shards. Based on my math, I obtain about around 4 fractured orbs in 60-70 maps, this beats on discernment scarab. Here is the "trap" with the discernment scarab, because all the shards are rolled as one, it is "far" less of a chance to get hit the truly rare. Instead a harby rolling 20 different times per harby (20 chances to hit a mirror or fractured shard vs 1) it is far more rare. Not, you might note the wording on discernment "chance of more rare" this is ambigious, we don't know if that means 25%, 100% or what not. Knowing GG, it is probably only 25%. So the question is, do you want to actually see a mirror shard drop? If so, don't run discernment, because if you do, you are not going to see it drop or you will need to commit to something like 10,000 maps using the same strat over and over. I am guess most do not have the mental fortitude for that. Remember, for every person who shows you the mirror shard explosion, the are hundreds more who don't. Don't let the lucky few convince you that this is a sure bet. After my own testing, I decided to drop that scarab. Sure, I won't even hit a mirror drop, but I have already obtained some mirror shards and I actually get more fractured shard this. Who knows, maybe even after 10,000 maps or 100,000 even, the scarab may prove to be a wash. Seriously. I would not be surprised to find out that the discernment scarab, on average produces the worst results on hundreds of thousands of maps. You might drop mirror shards 15x more frequent vs with the scarab. In the end, you re truly playing the powerball when running the discernment scarab. You might get lucky, but realistically you are not going to see those mirror shards if you use that scarab.
@JocoSecondwonder
@JocoSecondwonder 5 ай бұрын
As a new player I could not find another video with this much insights. You are so cool!
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Hey that really means a lot mate, appreciate it! Hope you are enjoying the game as much as I am.
@JocoSecondwonder
@JocoSecondwonder 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying I happened to play the same class as you, i am being a big copy cat .. but its too vast, but I enjoy the game a lot!
@JocoSecondwonder
@JocoSecondwonder 5 ай бұрын
oh plus, ur music is extremely connected to the playstyle of the hero LOL
@fredmiller906
@fredmiller906 5 ай бұрын
Was honestly really nice watching someone who had a lot of passion for a specific mechanic. I’ve been playing this game for over a decade and that was still very insightful
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Cheers, appreciate it!
@ney2424
@ney2424 5 ай бұрын
learned so much from this bout harbi's, a side comment about the bgm, maybe you should lower it a bit so we can clearly hear you. Nonetheless thank you
@irzekk
@irzekk 5 ай бұрын
good god please never put music in your vids again or turn it down. great vid tho
@dooer44
@dooer44 5 ай бұрын
got 22x mirror shard 3 hours ago, dont give up lol i kill at least 4000+ Harbingers
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Haha one day, I just gotta keep grinding.
@harrymilushev6107
@harrymilushev6107 4 ай бұрын
Can Hold LMB on the pile of loot when loot is toggled with highlight keybind
@Legose7en
@Legose7en 2 ай бұрын
Hey mate, hope you doing well and having a great league start. One question now that we have 6 maps slots what scarab do we add to the mix for the optimal farm? Thank you
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 2 ай бұрын
An extra normal harby scarab. Can also take off the obelisk and have 3 harby scarabs. Do what you prefer or is best value according to scarab prices.
@Legose7en
@Legose7en 2 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlayingthank you
@CHRISSKA
@CHRISSKA 5 ай бұрын
legend
@grimdeathkid
@grimdeathkid 5 ай бұрын
Anyone else having semi-regular crashes with harbringer? My instance dissapears probably 1/5 maps which is really annoying since it's the mechanic im enjoying the most.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
I regularly crash anyway, not sure if harbys make it worse or not.
@TangoWithFernando
@TangoWithFernando 5 ай бұрын
Great video! You were my inspiration to go for Harby! Question, have you found a certain teir of map where it's the cutoff for harbinger drops? Like Tier 9 Park vs T16?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Im not sure the difference in drops between those but in general the higher tier the better. This will be something I will test when I have a chance.
@theroyalcam
@theroyalcam 5 ай бұрын
i've been fully juicing deli/beyond/harbys on my pure spectre necro since league start but ive been using 2 rusted scarabs this whole time so im gonna try to use 1 rusted and add the warhoards. necro leech is so OP this league i just stand still and wait for my minions to kill everything
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yeah up to you if you want more scarabs run 2 harbys, if you want huge fracturing explosions run warhoards.
@inferius3389
@inferius3389 5 ай бұрын
poe CCs be like: my guide is best, no my guide is the best
@bannyvader
@bannyvader 5 ай бұрын
why the loud background music?
@fredmiller906
@fredmiller906 5 ай бұрын
Wasn’t that loud
@Lami408
@Lami408 5 ай бұрын
Turn the music louder I still can hear your voice
@lagarttemido
@lagarttemido 4 ай бұрын
Gotta endure the music if you wanna know the secrets of mirrors...
@PrineLulu05
@PrineLulu05 5 ай бұрын
Question: Why do you recommend standing in the blue circle? Does it provide some sort of buff? As a ranged character its generally not always ideal to stand right in the middle of the mobs. Is it just because of the little totems they summon with the shield?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
As I replied to another comment: Nah it's no buff, it's just a good mentality to get into when farming harbys as it kind of keeps you on track to drop more shards. It's sort of like how people say town is lava when they are trying to quickly level a new character. It does make it faster to farm harbys with builds that can't ignore the blue invuln bubbles from the totems though.
@eepopgames2741
@eepopgames2741 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying I was about to ask this same thing. I have been playing with Harbingers on my Dominating Blow build (more Rares spawned means more Rares I can "convert" to my service), and had not been paying any attention to the blue circles and was worried that I was getting worse drops or something based on what was said in the video. But it sounds like I am in the clear as my minions will be in the circles usually by default.
@inzagirukia1894
@inzagirukia1894 4 ай бұрын
Your back ground music too loud
@randyplaisted8634
@randyplaisted8634 4 ай бұрын
Really great info ty
@petrsobotka5528
@petrsobotka5528 5 ай бұрын
Another thing to mention and why the scarab of regency( +50% to powerful harbinger boss chance) is so important for this strategy(besides the obvious) is that the scarab of discerment(rarer+ single type of currency shards) does not fully work on normal harbingers for whatever reason(you can even see it in this video around 12:55, it drops mostly horizon shards but you can see alteration shards also), while it works perfectly on the harbinger bosses.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm skipping normal harbingers now. Not gonna have a mirror shard drop and not turn into an explosion.
@mazzpsykoziz
@mazzpsykoziz 23 күн бұрын
Off-topic but what is the playlist? Feel like it would be pretty perfect to have running in the background for car games.
@bodhidharmatamo1739
@bodhidharmatamo1739 3 ай бұрын
One question, you gotta be inside the blue circles? What If I have a minion build, it's ok if they are inside? Thanks in advance!!!
@implosesgm
@implosesgm 5 ай бұрын
Isn't boss-rushing shaper invitations way better than doing in on parks? you'll have 4 linear maps do run + a lot of other incomes
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
With that strat you're spending a lot of time fighting bosses rather than harbys and are also missing out on harbys that are in your maps due to boss rushing. That is more a boss rushing strat with harbys supplementing it rather than a harby strat. It may or may not be better in terms of income, but you're lowering your chances of hitting a jackpot with the shards.
@implosesgm
@implosesgm 5 ай бұрын
​@@SteadyPlaying yep that's true, it may be a better div/hour strategy, but it's definitelly not better thinking of shards/hour :)
@Loser91915
@Loser91915 5 ай бұрын
Great content, so what about destructive play.. are harb-osses affect by it?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Cheers! Nah, they aren't affected by it.
@TheBlackKnightmare
@TheBlackKnightmare 4 ай бұрын
Discernment does NOT help you. Over 100000 harbinger kills 50k with 50k without its been tracked that your expected loot is ~30% lower using Discernment. As it will often give you one of the garbage shards as its entire drop. The only 2 useful conversions are frac and mirror with frac being extremely rare and mirror being less than 1 in 10,000 chance to even SPAWN but then Discernment rolls to see if it chooses mirror shard or (more likely) one of the other valid options. This makes it so if the mirror shard is part of a normal harb its a 1/5 to convert (tho even rarer for it to drop from non harb boss ) and 1/8 for harb boss on average So with Discernment potentially 1/80,000 harb will be mirror shards. . . Meaning you need to get 8 mirror shards total to equal that of not using any scarab at all in that slot. Use 2 harb 1 harb boss 1 dupe loot for best EV/map
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
This doesn't make any sense at all, even if the 'variety' mod on the scarab is not working then it should still be a wash. Where is this data for the 100k harb kills?
@TheBlackKnightmare
@TheBlackKnightmare 4 ай бұрын
@SteadyPlaying we logged rewards on our Excel sheet. The variety mod doesn't matter because of how the scarab works it rolls the rarity on the harb first (if harb boss) then applies the scarabs to it which rerolls it again but THEN picks one type of currency to make the entire drop become and as far as we can tell last it doubles it. As you well know each harb or harb boss drops multiple stacks of shards and of those stacks you'll be lucky if 1 (2 when doubled) is exalt or frac/2(4 doubled) are ancient or null. The rest will be garbage. Even if the reroll rng upgraded tier 4 shards to tier 3, i.e., you get chaos shards or something, it is far more likely to pick that for the ENTIRE stack vs picking the anull/exalt/frac etc. This turns consistent EV (expected value) into a gamble instead you can add +3 harbs which have 75% chance to become bosses and will yield double loot this means at a baseline you get +6 harbs of loot but in reality 2 become bosses on average so it's 18 harbs worth of loot (bosses drop ~4x shards) If we assume you only have device scarab and 1 from atlas that's 7 harbs 5 of which on average become bosses so 44 baseline harbs of loot that way vs. 62-68 of loot my way. Now, while that is about 50% more loot more importantly it is 50% more chances at mirror/frac shards without the drawback of entire harbs going poof without any loot worth picking up.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Interesting, and this is how you measure the data? Counting the harbinger bosses as 4 and normal harbingers as 1? The main argument here seems to be that you get more per map dropping discernment as you can then fit in more harbies plus you have more of an opportunity to see mirror shards, correct? What are the outcomes on the sheet if you take out mirror shard drops?
@TheBlackKnightmare
@TheBlackKnightmare 4 ай бұрын
@SteadyPlaying we didn't include mirror shard drops because our sample wasn't nearly large enough for the shard drops to be statistically significant. Only currencies counted were frac/anull/ancient shard/orbs. Yes we count harb bosses as "4" due to fact they drop far more shards than non harb bosses however the math works out the same even on non bosses as while the total stack of shards to pick from goes way down you also lose the guarantees 3x reroll harb bosses give if that makes sense. I'm going to get sirgog to do a large scale harb test for a new video and I'll share here when it's all done if that's ok.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Yup, makes sense. So the extra weighting the discernment gives to shards is negligable? Did you measure time taken to run maps? Yeah for sure share here, this is very interesting, cheers.
@MrArchy1986
@MrArchy1986 5 ай бұрын
Why you say you have to stay inside blue circle?? cant find any information on any benefit from that aside geting wacked.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
As I replied to another comment: It's just a good mentality to get into when farming harbys as it kind of keeps you on track to drop more shards. It's sort of like how people say town is lava when they are trying to quickly level a new character. It also makes it faster to farm harbys with builds that can't ignore the blue invuln bubbles from the totems
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
At 07:39 I said scarabs, I meant shards. Cheers mates, sorry about that.
@souredrum
@souredrum 3 ай бұрын
It doesn't have to be a T16.....got my mirror explosion on a t3 strand.
@mikehorn9171
@mikehorn9171 5 ай бұрын
I tend to run harbs also, I tie them in with blueprints. I dont usually make any money running them. Money tends to come from other strats. I did notice when i run discernment I get like zero drops ( big explosions of junk lol). But if i take that out run double harb regency and warlords I start see more fracs again never seen a mirror. Most of the money I make comes from hesit (simplex, focused, helical) did p well this season. As for maps, i run strand straight line vs the map you outlined. I also like phantas since its similar just a line. So thoughts of taking out discern? Ill tyr to do 50 maps see what happens then another 50 with it.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Discernment would be a net 0 if it wasn't for the line 'harbingers in area drop rarer currency shards'. This modifier used to be on the harb sextant and is very powerful. Without discern you will make possibly more income in the short term but definitely less income in the long term.
@alexandermacer2676
@alexandermacer2676 5 ай бұрын
Why Park tho as best map? City square was because of the sextant that made bosses drop shards and city square had 3 bosses. Isnt sth like Jungle Valley better for better Altars cuz no boss altar choices?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Sure, if you can prefer jungle Valley go there. I prefer park due to it being a square and easy to find and kill harbys. Altars are a bit of an afterthought with how I run maps.
@williammalkowski
@williammalkowski 5 ай бұрын
can u share POB pls? tanks
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Here ya go pobb.in/16CyOuq0lg4X
@DaIncredibleEgg
@DaIncredibleEgg 4 ай бұрын
Glad to finally have a bunch of Harbinger questions cleared up! Do you know if the monsters they summon have a loot penalty on them like ritual monsters?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Cheers! No penalty I'm aware of.
@dmitrybelich9334
@dmitrybelich9334 5 ай бұрын
Shards from Harbingers are not affected by modifiers to Item Quantity - either from the player or area modifiers poewiki
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
yupyup
@xanrilteneb7673
@xanrilteneb7673 5 ай бұрын
Almost died looting >> It gets me everytime too
@anthonygraybill1063
@anthonygraybill1063 5 ай бұрын
Amazing vid! Quick question, does the harby necro mod affect the mods spawned by the harbys? Like a harby inception?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Idk man, but they do all sorts of weird stuff especially if they get summoned out of chests. Massive blue circles and that.
@bYdamag3
@bYdamag3 5 ай бұрын
Standing on blue circles when harbingers spawn mobs do something like boost the shard drops? or why we should do that?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
As I replied to another comment: Nah it's no buff, it's just a good mentality to get into when farming harbys as it kind of keeps you on track to drop more shards. It's sort of like how people say town is lava when they are trying to quickly level a new character. It does make it faster to farm harbys with builds that can't ignore the blue invuln bubbles from the totems though.
@user-hu6ws4oe2p
@user-hu6ws4oe2p 5 ай бұрын
Does shard drop from harbingers depend on map tier?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yes, however I will test how much difference it actually is later in the league.
@Shirukan0
@Shirukan0 5 ай бұрын
music too loud xd
@cuakman
@cuakman 5 ай бұрын
I know this is unrelated, but i've been wanting to play a boneshatter build for some time, can you do all content with it?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much, the only things its not great for are things that melee sucks for in general.
@Sarutobiization
@Sarutobiization 5 ай бұрын
i always get hype when the harbinger boss shows up. fun af
@James-kq6tg
@James-kq6tg 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried just 3 harbinger scarabs and a regency? I’ve personally made WAAYY more fracturing orbs overall that way.
@keasol
@keasol 5 ай бұрын
glacier is small map to rush harbinger
@lippemartinsm
@lippemartinsm 4 ай бұрын
Turn the music up man we can still hear u
@cardinals9167
@cardinals9167 5 ай бұрын
Have you done any testing or know if Tormented Spirits affect Harbinger drops?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
They don't affect shard drops at all. They do alter the drops of the rares spawned though.
@emattera6391
@emattera6391 5 ай бұрын
Wtf is that, petrified blood bonesatter ?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Aha yup! There's actually logic behind it don't worry.
@alexanderjanak4239
@alexanderjanak4239 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying isnt this a build carn made last league? im playing jugg boneshatter with divine flesh and forth vow and i can literaly stand in everything. gonna try your strat. since league start harby was a big letdown. gonna try it again. fingers crossed
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Its similar to his Tota version I just change it to be slightly more softcore trade leaguey. Yeah huge rng swings with harbs.
@orcvs6297
@orcvs6297 5 ай бұрын
It's good, im getting like 1-3d in every 3-5 runs. Got fracturing shards twice in a day
@orcvs6297
@orcvs6297 5 ай бұрын
Been running tons of T16s even maps with no recovery thanks to Defiance of destiny amulet, my RF chieftain can run it smoothly as long as RF is turned off
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@paulvolz720
@paulvolz720 5 ай бұрын
when you say "white map" you mean normal t16 maps not t1-5 maps, right? because if you are after shards map tier does matter.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I shouldve clarified I meant rarity not tier.
@camlol97
@camlol97 5 ай бұрын
WOW. What a great guide and great discourse. Subbed to support you man. Was looking for something fresh to try out with a new build and this harb setup is perfect for it. Using dd cast when stunned build. The afk simu farmer lol. Been grinding out this strategy and loving it! Thanks for putting this together.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that build would be great for this, should be easy money.
@gkz_j4242
@gkz_j4242 5 ай бұрын
Very informative video, thanks a lot, so basically, if i only care for frags, just run white maps as fast as possible? Thanks in advance
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I mean rarity though. So white T16 maps are the way. Keep in mind this does make you very reliant on shard drops so usually it's best to add other sources of income. Though the rares the harbys spawn tend to drop a bunch of stuff.
@czarny181
@czarny181 5 ай бұрын
is it me or is the poeatlas planner link not working properly ?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Both links work for me at the moment.
@darkord1
@darkord1 5 ай бұрын
does harbi and expedition works well together?
@dali1384
@dali1384 5 ай бұрын
best are bosses, since they go really fast and can drop maps. expedition usually takes long, even if you use the big single bomb, which costs time. farming harbingers is all about doing it fast so you can farm as many as possible. if you take 10 minutes per map, you will have 6 maps per hour. if you take 5 minutes, you will do 12 maps. the 12 maps might be the difference between hitting the occasional loot explosion or having it more often.
@ogulcan1234567890
@ogulcan1234567890 5 ай бұрын
dunes map works too or is park best
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Up to you, I prefer Park but try it out and see which you prefer,
@Karashote
@Karashote 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying i swapped to dunes and i like it a lot more. i guess it can depend on your build but doing a map with the fortunate card makes it a no brainer to me
@liangdar9675
@liangdar9675 5 ай бұрын
Whats your opinion on farming harbis in T17 maps?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Great for scarabs/loot in general. Shit for shards as monsters take a lot longer to kill.
@zsw1ft
@zsw1ft 5 ай бұрын
Don't run Park You're immensely gimping your T17 map profits because Park drops Citadel which barely sell for 35c (I was running Glacier; which has the same problem) Dunes is a much better map bc Fortress sells 70-80c per
@yousifnasimi3771
@yousifnasimi3771 5 ай бұрын
If you bulk sell them you’ll get more I just finished farming 500 div in couple weeks doing a farm to get elder/shaper/conq/ t17 to sell. You could run jungle valley, nice layout and abom sells 6/ 5 div all day long. :)
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
I ran Dune for a bit, the layout made running them slower so despite the better price for fortress and better div cards it was less income for me. Each to their own though, if you prefer dune then go for it.
@zsw1ft
@zsw1ft 4 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying I've tried glacier; it has a bit better overall denso and layout that might be best honestly but fortunate card is also a big just "free money" thing about Dunes to me since they can get duped from altars as well.
@херобрин2008
@херобрин2008 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the guide. I play on righteous fire and farm harbingers. What do you think about the combination of harbinger and beyond?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
It's great, they synergize well together.
@clint7168
@clint7168 5 ай бұрын
Didn't see this in any other comments - What do you mean by "print money" with the azurite node?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
You exchange the azurite for resonators from niko and sell them. Though I gotta say the price for them this league is pretty low.
@speaknoevil3
@speaknoevil3 5 ай бұрын
is that an aim to head mix in the background?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
sure is!
@lambrualin8117
@lambrualin8117 5 ай бұрын
Why do we need to sit in the circle? do they give better loot or is it just faster?
@Karashote
@Karashote 5 ай бұрын
he just means always be killing harbingers and don't waste time in between them
@holo2722
@holo2722 4 ай бұрын
GG and ty
@mars.unreal
@mars.unreal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great vid! But i still dont rly get why everyone goes delirium with harbinger?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
It just adds quantity to the drops of the rares that harbingers spawn.
@mars.unreal
@mars.unreal 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying thanks! Its great to farm clusters at the same time (i am ssf). But then again harbi isnt rly worth it in ssf unless you need exalts or annuls i think. But the maps i did were fun. And you pretty much always play lottery haha.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Haha yea true, not that useful for ssf
@Warfalcon
@Warfalcon 5 ай бұрын
Sorry if I missed it (working from home so multitasking lol) but why do you need to stand in the middle of the blue area vs just being around it and killing them?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
As I replied to another comment: It's just a good mentality to get into when farming harbys as it kind of keeps you on track to drop more shards. It's sort of like how people say town is lava when they are trying to quickly level a new character. It also makes it faster to farm harbys with builds that can't ignore the blue invuln bubbles from the totems. You can just stand around it and kill them too, theres no buff or anything from being in the blue circles. It's just how I think when I farm them.
@Warfalcon
@Warfalcon 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying Gotcha thank you
@horza3106
@horza3106 5 ай бұрын
Just to confirm, use white maps and dont upgrade the quality?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yup if you want to do the 100% harby rush strat it's white maps as in the rarity. So t16 white maps. It doesnt hurt to quality it as it will increase the loot the rares drop. But it has no affect on shards. Personally at the moment I do run the maps rare as it doesnt slow me down too much and it's easier to sustain maps/currency this way. If you rely 100% on harby shards you're gonna hit some droughts between fracturing drops that are going to hurt.
@yunni2g
@yunni2g 5 ай бұрын
are you self sustaining maps? do you havy any other map than park favoured?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I have one Pit and the rest Parks favoured. Good to have a connected map favoured so if it doesnt roll park it will still drop a map rather than currency.
@limmel3588
@limmel3588 5 ай бұрын
the legend of harby
@michaelmalcev6940
@michaelmalcev6940 5 ай бұрын
400 maps were completed and there was not a single explosion of mirror shards. Only 4 fracturing orb. Is there anyone with a similar problem?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Mirror shards dropped like 1 every 500 maps before the scarab change. Sometimes RNG can be your friend sometimes it can be your enemy.
@RossWasTaken
@RossWasTaken 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying every 500? thats actually way more common than I thought
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yea I had 7 mirror shards drop in affliction league.
@yousifnasimi3771
@yousifnasimi3771 5 ай бұрын
Are you using a mod on the map device?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
The 6c harbinger mod
@urarael2
@urarael2 5 ай бұрын
awesome guide! one thing Im going to suggest. Try use maxroll's for passive atlas tree so that we can see the last 20 point where to spend on first etc. Not everyone have 132/132 points so yeah. thank you
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Ah ok, I will work that out for next time thank you.
@motherpigeon1582
@motherpigeon1582 5 ай бұрын
lol if you are aiming at farming mirrors and you don't even have full atlas, I mean you can see where this is going logic wise?
@urarael2
@urarael2 5 ай бұрын
what made u think that im farming for mirror? lmao@@motherpigeon1582
@generationxpvp
@generationxpvp 5 ай бұрын
I have been running another harbinger guide, it is nowhere near as good as this. Thanks for the info!
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Cheers! Smash out some fracturing shards!
@VanillaFury
@VanillaFury 5 ай бұрын
If you don't mind my asking, I intend on basically doing this as a duo and using deli orbs over a mirror and throwing in Beyond. Why would we prefer Park over something like Strand or Tropical Island? Is it just the optimization of finding the harbingers quicker on Park? I watched the entire video but that part didn't sink in.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I used to love farming strand but its just way too long and spreads out the harbingers, tropical island has a similar issue. The reason park is good is its easy layout to find all the harbingers quickly and they are kind of clustered. Keep in mind if you are farming as a duo you will drop the same amount of shards as if you were solo.
@VanillaFury
@VanillaFury 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying Just from personal experience. Been running the strat quite a bit. I'm thinking of doing a 50 maps of each calculations, but I'm pretty sure that it's only taking me about 20 seconds more to add 3 more harbingers in place of the discernment scarab, and I'm making much more consistent currency per map. I'm not sure I like how lottery the discernment is, but I haven't had a single frac or mirror drop in well over 50 maps. I still made money, but Just swapping the discernment out netted me a fracturing orb across 8 maps.
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Congrats, it will for sure give you more consistent currency over time to take it out. However the value of your shards over time will be a lot lower, the line on the scarab 'harbingers in area drop rarer currency shards' is huge. It increases the rates in which you farm ancient orbs fracturing shards and mirror shards by a bucketload.
@MrPrankmastergeneral
@MrPrankmastergeneral 5 ай бұрын
does standing in blue harbinger circle gives us some buff or does it just make farming them faster ?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Nah it's no buff, it's just a good mentality to get into when farming harbys as it kind of keeps you on track to drop more shards. It's sort of like how people say town is lava when they are trying to quickly level a new character. It does make it faster to farm harbys with builds that can't ignore the blue invuln bubbles though.
@vitorcunha6715
@vitorcunha6715 3 ай бұрын
​@@SteadyPlaying😊
@kizmy2
@kizmy2 5 ай бұрын
the harbinger scarabs that drop the same shard is bad in the short term but really good in the long term because overtime you will hit the jackpot but if youre looking at making currency in the short time youre better without it and having extra harbinger because that scarab is choosing a random shard from the dropped pile to be the ONE shard that will drop and if youre supposed to drop fractured shards or mirrors shards but it choose something else then rip you wont get it.
@zyntril6404
@zyntril6404 5 ай бұрын
U dont actually know that
@kizmy2
@kizmy2 5 ай бұрын
yes and you want to know why, because I ran this for 15 hours not getting a single fractured explosions, which means it didnt choose fracture shards. its impossible to not drop a single shard in 15 hours. then yesterday i went and farmed for about the same time without it and made like 4 full fracture orb dropping alot of shards.
@zyntril6404
@zyntril6404 5 ай бұрын
@@kizmy2 last league you would get 1-2 frac orbs per 100 maps this league its 4-6
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Nah you're locked into using discernment because of the other line in it 'Harbingers in Area drop rarer currency shards'. This is huge. If this line was on another scarab I would most likely not use it though. Youre right in that it just frontloads your RNG rather than giving drops over time.
@razvannorth
@razvannorth 5 ай бұрын
Map craft is harbringer?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I'll write it in the description.
@zarko364
@zarko364 5 ай бұрын
did you ever get mirror shard from harbinger?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Not yet this league. Last league I got 7, the League before (ToTA) I got 4 mirror shards and one mirror shard converted to a mirror of kalandra. The highest amount of mirror shards I've gotten in a league was in ritual with 18.
@rubenandrade9602
@rubenandrade9602 5 ай бұрын
​@@SteadyPlaying can we get Ritual strategy? Seems like more favoures + free rerolls are the way but I think if can't pass the 10k tribute threshold I won't get anything good
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Im outdated on ritual strategy but when I ran it the rewards were bad unless you were going in with blood filled vessels, dunno how thats going to work in with the scarabs we have today though.
@moo1037
@moo1037 5 ай бұрын
What loot filter are you using?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 4 ай бұрын
a modified uber strict filter www.filterblade.xyz/?profile=Steady1&saveState=XLBG4ZWTT8G72L&platform=pc&isPreset=false
@TargetsAppear
@TargetsAppear 4 ай бұрын
How often do you get massive mirror shard drops?
@mateszerencses8765
@mateszerencses8765 4 ай бұрын
can u send the pob pls?
@nathan-sg7cu
@nathan-sg7cu 5 ай бұрын
Opinion on harbi + deli
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
It's great I am running it at the moment.
@petertuy2141
@petertuy2141 5 ай бұрын
can lightning arrow run this or are we too squishy for it
@Chompa117
@Chompa117 5 ай бұрын
Lightning arrow can farm harbi. You need spell suppression and ailment immunity though and even then they can be very deadly, best strat is to circle strafe around them while shooting
@diddyboppin69
@diddyboppin69 5 ай бұрын
Doing it as lightning arrow just fine. Just kite when needed
@billyturner9930
@billyturner9930 5 ай бұрын
You stand off the screen and fire arrows at the harb until the loot drops. LA is great for harb especially with the extra enemies hit on the gem.
@Rydzekkk
@Rydzekkk 5 ай бұрын
Do You have to stand in blues circles? I can nuke mobs easily, but standing in the middle is quite deadly for my build (exsang miner)
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Not all the time, but harbingers often spawn totems with small blue bubbles around them which make monsters in them immune to damage coming from a source outside of the bubble.
@Rydzekkk
@Rydzekkk 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying ah, Thanks. Mines don't have problem with that thankfully :)
@thedevolis
@thedevolis 5 ай бұрын
Very informative video! Thanks!
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Cheers mate! Glad it helped.
@moonxp13
@moonxp13 5 ай бұрын
Could you link your build please?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
pobb.in/16CyOuq0lg4X
@IAMROYAL100
@IAMROYAL100 5 ай бұрын
can i ask why park and not mesa?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
I think Mesa got rotated out for this league. Along with City Square, which hurt my feelings.
@IAMROYAL100
@IAMROYAL100 5 ай бұрын
@@SteadyPlaying yea you're right idk why i thought it was on there
@pbc1337
@pbc1337 5 ай бұрын
​@@SteadyPlaying Would of thought strand would be the map of choice because it's a straight line. In your experience you found the park to be quicker to run ?
@zyntril6404
@zyntril6404 5 ай бұрын
1:49 not true at all they are effected by map quant and pack size. From my experince i get more frac shard when running 8 mod maps 11:00 dunes is faster i do 1 inn 1.5-3min warhoards is better but when running another 3 harbingers u get more out of regency
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Unless things have changed this season, they are not affected by map quant and pack size. Discernment and regency are mandatory, warhoards is optional.
@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814
@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814 5 ай бұрын
Your loot show case is laughable. You need minimum 200 maps to start showing the fracture shard drops ratio properly and 1000 maps for the mirror shards
@all4starter393
@all4starter393 5 ай бұрын
Pob please ?
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
It has changed now but at the time it was something like pobb.in/16CyOuq0lg4X Check out my newer videos for the updated build, should be in the description.
@ДанилоГуща
@ДанилоГуща 5 ай бұрын
Why would you even farm harbingers? Literally 0 profit on average, just hoping to get mirror or frac orb is cringe
@Karashote
@Karashote 5 ай бұрын
the mobs harbingers spawn drop a ton of maps and scarabs. you easily make profit
@NoksUndKutten
@NoksUndKutten 5 ай бұрын
Ha sweet I was just thinking about switching to some juiced harbi strats after getting bored of harvest, cheers!
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@AN-us2en
@AN-us2en 5 ай бұрын
Farmed harbingers 1 week - 0 fracturing orbs/shards. Farmed "Back to basics" - 2 fracturing shards ^^ Harbingers strat for me was - 3div/hr as per wealthyexile calculations... so fucked up :(
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Ah yeah, if you dont hit RNG it can be very grindy.
@DanHoang-r3p
@DanHoang-r3p 5 ай бұрын
pob pls
@SteadyPlaying
@SteadyPlaying 5 ай бұрын
Here ya go: pobb.in/16CyOuq0lg4X
@negro16321
@negro16321 5 ай бұрын
12:23 jokes on you, thats misinformation, the best way is to "hide" loot and just spam click on the shiny pod of loot :)
@CHRISSKA
@CHRISSKA 5 ай бұрын
feels slightly slower but that way is less effort
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