How to Glaze a crucible and smelt your gold powder into a button

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Moose Scrapper

Moose Scrapper

Күн бұрын

This is the last of the series in gold recovery from 1 lb of trimmed gold fingers. Its a quick walkthrough of how to glaze the crucible, and then melt the gold down. Takes less than 20 minutes! Final results on weight included. Stay tuend to the end of the video to see the links to the other videos of how to build a bubbler, recovering the gold, refining the gold, and more!

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@jeffgregorek8707
@jeffgregorek8707 9 жыл бұрын
Moose, many thanks here bro, I am a disabled vet from Desert Storm, I have one leg and spend most of my day in my wheelchair just killing time, I am thankful that you made these videos, I will try them and hopefully will be able to supplement my income to help support me,wife,three kids and a dog....thanks again bro !!!! please keep making more.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Gregorek Will do! And I cant thank you enough for your service!! Make sure you check out my DIY Daddy channel, I am releasing a series on ebay selling that should help you make some more money as well!
@martincontreras8140
@martincontreras8140 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you moose let me know if u can do anything to help promote more videos...but by the looks, BROTHER YOUR RUNNING STRONG! 💪
@CandSMINING
@CandSMINING Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your basics of smelting. Very good video. I have done a lot of melts of various metals using a propane foundry and a small Eletric foundry. Really enjoyed your melt. Thanks for sharing. 😎😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
@ClashGardener
@ClashGardener 5 жыл бұрын
*I'm new to the melting game and I appreciate a good tip or two.* _Awesome Video_ 👏
@111fishkiller
@111fishkiller 8 жыл бұрын
Good job Moose!! NOE U got me thinking about that pile of old PC's and all the ones I see sitting by the road.ALL THE TIME. I live in Jupiter Florida.The folks around here have WAY MORE MONEY than common sense. Bet I could collect 50-60 used PC's a month. Some need minor repairs,(which I would fix and sell as good used) and many are older and would just go on the pile... I have everything U have mentioned an all 3 vids.All I need it the Precipitation agent. I have saved all vids,subscribed to your channel as well. Nothin' left to do now but, acquire precip. agent and START MAKIN' GOLD BABY!!! Thank you Mr.Moose for allowing us to see your fine method of gold recovery.. Someone once told me "it's useless to mine gold in Florida"...We know better tho,huh? :-)
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
+Fishkiller 41 lol sounds like you have a sweet little area to gold mine!
@111fishkiller
@111fishkiller 8 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah Moose.PRIME paydirt and "concentrates" around here buddy. Thanks again for the videos..
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 2 жыл бұрын
Watching mud turn to gold never ceases to please me!
@davidbeckwith9535
@davidbeckwith9535 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was able to watch all 3 steps in order, you make it look less scary lol ,than other videos I've seen, I'm very new to e waste scraping, BTW I love all your videos
@skeetersaurus6249
@skeetersaurus6249 8 жыл бұрын
That blue color in your crucible (once you have your button) tells me you have quite a bit of lead or copper in that gold. Have you ever considered using Aqua Regia to actually refine the gold first? Simply mix up some Aqua Regia, mix in your gold and stir until disolved (this makes Chloroauric Acid), then once the Aqua Regia is saturated (can't add any more gold into solution), now filter through a buchner funnel through a coffee filter (to catch contaminants, silica, etc.), then precipitate out the gold from the Chloroauric Acid by slowly adding Sodium Metabisulfite. Filter again (to remove your gold dust from the bottom of the beaker), then use THIS powder to make your button. Your end product is almost 4-9's pure. Your lead, copper, etc. will be thrown away during the filtering process.
@davidlee1719
@davidlee1719 8 жыл бұрын
As he said, he is not a professional just a hobbyist. Getting to 22K or higher is great for most hobbyists and you could refine repeatedly to get slightly more pure each time just using the process HE used. I am still grateful for his time to put the video together. Most people want methods which are cheaper than Nitric and HCl (Aqua Regia) so this Poor Man's AR is the perfect trick for us.
@seropserop
@seropserop Жыл бұрын
Hey don’t you need to add urea before adding sodium metabisulfate?
@fidelibuslucrum8238
@fidelibuslucrum8238 7 жыл бұрын
Watched your videos and I conclude your dedication is admirable.
@YFUATIW
@YFUATIW 9 жыл бұрын
When you learn to wash the powder before melting, you'll get to enjoy seeing a nice little pipe form in the middle as it cools, meaning you'll have a much higher purity.
@wolfbite941
@wolfbite941 9 жыл бұрын
how do you wash the powder?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
wolfbite941 HCL and then water
@YFUATIW
@YFUATIW 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry just saw where you responded. Boil in HCl once, then distilled water 3 times, then household ammonia once, then water 3 more times. Seems like a lot of work, but getting 3 9's is worth it.
@likedover2091
@likedover2091 9 жыл бұрын
Hi mosse again I saw many viedos at youtube about recovery gold and really all was not good exept yours. good work Man thanks alot
@NormanMoody
@NormanMoody 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your sharing. I'm a big moose scraper fan. I ride my three wheeled Schwinn and since your vids, have started to scrap again. Got about ten pounds of bare bright cu to fund more tools. I will never throw out a mid grade board again. Thanks , many times over. my 60 birthday coming up and I'm living off my VA pension because my body's wasted. do you have video on your channel that speaks to where to find the most mid grade boards. would flip that gold so fast and buy silver coins that's my gift to you moose. sorry so long
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! And Happy Pre Birthday! I do not have a video out about where to find mid grade boards, but I can tell you that you will find them in DVD players, LCD tv's, computers, satellite receivers, and video game consoles. Its hard to always know what will be inside something though. Best of luck to you!
@sbrenan3326
@sbrenan3326 9 жыл бұрын
+Norman Moody silver coins YES fu*k the banks
@TheTank365
@TheTank365 10 жыл бұрын
Hey moose great video, I was trying to mange a video of what I found scraping today but it seemed ridiculous. Long story short, if you ever find a IBM Server then grab it. It's packed full of gold!! 6 hard drives, one fiber cpu, one pcia card, gold plated pins, but here is the kicker 9 ram boards with gold plated fingers!! It blew my mind
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
Caleb Hudson sweet!
@jimbossemi-customs3129
@jimbossemi-customs3129 7 жыл бұрын
You are awesome Moose! I've learned so much from you! Thank you for all you do!!
@superpowerplaythroughs
@superpowerplaythroughs 2 жыл бұрын
Moose I just bought a bernzomatic torch with the blue propane cannisters, would that be good enough? and what exactly is map gas?
@christophergonzalez1780
@christophergonzalez1780 10 жыл бұрын
hey moose i dont know if you know this but a lot of the brass fittings you find in plumbing systems aren't exactly brass if you look at the color of the fitting and a yellow pipe you will find that the fitting is just a little bit darker and the reason for that being is that the fitting is usually known as composition. it pays a lil bit more then regular heavy brass
@tylerkrug7719
@tylerkrug7719 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, one pound of gold fingers, that's quite a bit of gold
@timfrazier7512
@timfrazier7512 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could do a video on how to remove solder from pins before processing. Tell what chemicals needed and where to get them. Thanks
@sojourner1511
@sojourner1511 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Moose, I think I'm ready. I got gold foils from trimmed fingers. Gonna give it a try. Thanks for all the years posting.
@DSurfer2007
@DSurfer2007 6 жыл бұрын
Once the Gold is in a liquid state, I throw a few pinches of borax in there. It will remove the surface impurities from the Gold. The end result is quite beautiful.
@helderfreitas6760
@helderfreitas6760 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Moose, can you help me with this: I have several crucibles with a lot of tiny particules mixed with borax. When I melt some gold in it always stay gold in the crucible. Any suggestion please on how can I recover all the gold in it? Thank you
@Aceluckyburrito
@Aceluckyburrito 9 жыл бұрын
I want to have this result but have trouble processing the procedure, and would like if you showed again like I said I believe mixed alloy and flake. But silver is nice I think sterling silver is similar to purified silver. You should explain this really cool fascinating ideas of yours.
@BassheadCurry
@BassheadCurry 7 жыл бұрын
When you say "map gas", I think of the old MAPP that isn't used anymore. Judging by the yellow can I saw in the video, you are using map/pro? I use map/pro for my forge but did not know it was capable of melting high karat gold in the open like that. I was under the assumption it needs insulation (such as my coffee can forge filled with calcium sulfate and sand) to melt gold. If it is simply map/pro, I will use that info to simplify melting when just making beads and not jewelry.
@bandilla7317
@bandilla7317 2 жыл бұрын
Thnks sir for the information regarding to smelt gold
@karlbe8414
@karlbe8414 7 жыл бұрын
How many hours total to get the ~ 100 bucks worth of gold? Cu looks even brighter after watching your videos. Persistence pays.... but how much?
@DonaldMelton
@DonaldMelton 8 жыл бұрын
hey moose how about making a video on how to get the borax out after a gold melt .
@richardoakes8518
@richardoakes8518 3 жыл бұрын
Add a quarter teaspoon of salt petre ( potassium nitrate) and it will go so much easier, very difficult to do it without
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos...in this broken economy I need a way to make a little cash on the side and this looks like a great way to do it.
@likedover2091
@likedover2091 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Mosse. ( THANK YOU) your vedios and advice was a very very helpfull I got 0.12 gram of gold from 115 gram of ram fingers. THANK YOU man,
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Liked Over No problem! Glad to hear you had success! This also give perspective on how much material you need to collect to start the process. Gratz!
@meanboycoins6250
@meanboycoins6250 4 жыл бұрын
How many uses do you get out of that melting cup? Is it better to do it this way or in a large furnace?
@hamsesaeeed1564
@hamsesaeeed1564 5 жыл бұрын
Pls tell me the name of the powder. Thanks you are good teacher
@Africa_243
@Africa_243 7 жыл бұрын
Hey there !! Could you please write down the list of the material used to melt the gold with
@MrCTrocker
@MrCTrocker 9 жыл бұрын
Great video... was this 2.5 grams of gold from one pound of cut fingers or from the entire sticks of RAM of a weight of one pound?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Craig Todd Thanks for watching! From just the trimmed fingers. There is more gold on the rest of the stick and in the IC's
@Zivotnaiskustva
@Zivotnaiskustva 7 жыл бұрын
What I did was is hot sand clear the cellphone boards then I soaked the boards in nitric acid now I am stuck with dark mud substance from the board mixed in with gold flakes not being able to separate the mud that came of the boards I mixed in the bleach in to dissolve mud and it has not dissolved yet. ie did not clear the cellphone boards with liee to remove green solder. Hey Moose what would you do next if you was me? Thanks!!
@fattahmahmoudimoscow28
@fattahmahmoudimoscow28 3 жыл бұрын
Hello , what was the name of white powder that you use in the end of this process ??
@starpointstudios
@starpointstudios 9 жыл бұрын
This is beyond awesome! I do have a question though. When you are done smelting down the gold and you finally have that little nugget of awesomeness is there anywhere specific that will take your word that it is all gold and was smelted down properly? Or could you just say 'this is pure gold'; do the acid test, and it's good to go? I guess what I'm asking is is there any concerns when selling it at market value to anyone?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
+starpointstudios Not really any concerns. places that buy gold would never take anyone's word on anything. Even if it was in a pretty little perfectly shaped ingot with 24K stamped on it. They all test it due to so many forgeries.
@martincontreras8140
@martincontreras8140 5 жыл бұрын
Hi moose, I have a couple of questions when you have all the foils such as you do in a large vial and your brain is telling melt it ..melt it, how do you go about that with out your torch accidently sneezing on it..? And second I cured my cruisible and tried to melt what I thought I would get a beebee ...(wrong) lol but there is a tiny tiny piece can I just leave in there till my next melt and will it group up? Please pardon me for my question I am one month old on this and need all the help I can get as I have ruined already, I find your videos be really helpful to me thank you so much for your videos god bless. Martin, Tucson Az
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 5 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for watching! Well, for your first question, I would try to convince my rain to not try and melt it, but if you must... rinse the foils well in a filter, roll them up in the filter paper and squeeze out as much water as you can and put that in your melting dish with some borax on top. let the flame approach real slow and you should be fine. Also helps to do that over a corning ware casserole dish just in case. As for the dot stuck in borax glass, yes, you can leave it there until the next batch. Its not going anywhere and when you heat it up again the borax will liquefy and free it up to join its brethren gold being melted.
@ziadahmad2108
@ziadahmad2108 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of that torch, please share with me the link to buy it ❤️
@phoenixrestorations315
@phoenixrestorations315 9 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, have you tried doing the same process for the gold trimmed boards? some of them have large corners that look gold plated to me and i bet you could get monster size foils if you cut the corners of the board and processed them like fingers.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Yup, you can, however those are more from newer electronics and the gold is mostly flash plated on there so the foil is so thin it breaks apart in the ap. But its still gold!
@mikewolf7884
@mikewolf7884 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Moose I got my hands on some silver and gold plated copper fittings.I deplatted them in salt water and electricity .So now im left with a slurry ,I would like too know how to separate the gold and silver . Any sugestions would be helpfull Thanks
@bambiejacksonreese3015
@bambiejacksonreese3015 4 жыл бұрын
Is the process the same if my gold is flour and is 65% fine glass sand?? Can I just break off the slag when I pour? I own a large kiln
@brandonknight7240
@brandonknight7240 Жыл бұрын
Ive got about the same amount of sediment and have worked so hard to get it. Gonna hurt to see the sediment shrink up. Ive weighed it at 5 grams but im guessing after i melt it it'll be less
@beatlessteve1010
@beatlessteve1010 8 жыл бұрын
great video i got as far as recovering gold foils...i would like to take this 1 step further and make gold rings or other jewlery.....i heated up intel processors and let the pins drop into hcl in a beaker ....heated o a hot plate and revered foils....for jewley i thin melting down the foils and using the foil as a base for jewelery...so what if a ring has a little copper.
@sambormann2369
@sambormann2369 2 жыл бұрын
Just a question; could you use propane to melt instead of map gas or butane...which would be best?
@piecartbox
@piecartbox 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, just bought one of those little silica cups off amazon for $4 shipped. I have some alluvial gold I am going to melt, should I be afraid of blowing it out of the cupel? Looks easy and you used powder.... I have the same two torches you show.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
Many will say you will lose some gold dust. I would think that as long as you keep your sweeps for further recovery you would be fine but don't quote me on that
@piecartbox
@piecartbox 8 жыл бұрын
It all went well I kept the flame far away until it fused, thanks again!
@jeremybryant6983
@jeremybryant6983 3 жыл бұрын
I have a half pint of what I believed and still have hope is gold powder. I was trying to melt in a cast iron skillet with a propane torch. Is that even possible cause I'm not getting any results. It's still powder.
@duanerobertson9637
@duanerobertson9637 7 жыл бұрын
When you said it was one pound of fingers, were you litteral or did you mean one pound of the gold foils?
@byrdhemenway369
@byrdhemenway369 2 жыл бұрын
Tried to smelt 10k gold, but it made borax turn green and blue and brown and now it seams the metal has dislaved into the borax I was using a small hho torch it was about 2g of 10k gold what do I do to get the gold out of the borax?
@canadiancryptidscanadasbea8335
@canadiancryptidscanadasbea8335 9 жыл бұрын
Hi moose great videos I do a lot of scraping copper,batteries, brass,ect but I would really like to get into this cpu board scrapping your videos are awesome and help guy's like me start up i live in Calgary alberta and i see a lotof old computers in the downtown core i am just wondering if all computer have gold on their mother boards or if it is only the newer models also is their a better source for gold pins then computers example, led tv,s ps3,s ??im asubscriber and cant wait for some new videos thanks scrapping in canada
@bartoszdudek3830
@bartoszdudek3830 9 жыл бұрын
Can I use a butane to melt the gold? Or it has less... strong/temperature during burning? It is really hard to get mapp gas or clear propane in Poland :/ Btw, great wideo :)
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
I have seen some small butane torches melt small amounts of gold. Must get to about 1859F
@poosmate
@poosmate 10 жыл бұрын
Great video Moose, thanks for sharing. When you've made a few of those little pellets do you pop them in the crucible together and melt them into one bigger nugget? Poo
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
YUP! I make one ounce bars
@jarrodwarner8490
@jarrodwarner8490 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use stainless steel bowl to smelt the powder gold dust
@kaysay716
@kaysay716 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Moose, this is another great video from you, thanks for doing all these. Have you been able to sell any of the gold you have refined? Different people on youtube have mentioned not being able to sell ingots of different metals they have refined at scrap yards. I know you are not taking gold to the scrap yard, I am just wondering about selling the gold. Thanks Moose!
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
I have no problems selling the gold at all. Granted, I was saving it up and had not intended to sell it for a while but family needs come first and I had to sell what i had. I brought it to Maine Gold and SIlver, a store that buys and sells jewelry and coins etc, they assayed it and cut me acheck all in about 10 minutes. Lots of people also sell it on ebay as well.
@kaysay716
@kaysay716 10 жыл бұрын
Moose Scrapper Thanks Moose! You are awesome!
@jkrush
@jkrush 9 жыл бұрын
2.5 g = $96.79 total gold value as of today not bad for a pound of scrap...just have to subtract the cost of supplies thanks Moose!...by the way what would your supply cost be?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Well, supply cost is reall yhard to say. I think I spent about $75 for everything. The HCL, bleach, SMB, MAPP, crucible, tongs, borax, beakers, and the little odds and ends. A lot of the stuff I get while scrapping for free. Most of the items I can use indefinitely, the only items that will need to be replenished are the chemicals and even those last a long time. I have had the same $3 box of borax for 3 years, the same $1 bottle of bleach for about that long too ( I think my wife took one at one point for laundry...) and the HCL is about $7 but I really get a lot of use out of one gallon. SO I guess you could say that the equipment would cost about 2 grams of gold and then the next several ounces are processed free.
@jkrush
@jkrush 9 жыл бұрын
Moose Scrapper Thanks guess I'll be on the look out for beakers or glass coffee pitchers in my scrap runs.
@DanDavis391
@DanDavis391 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Moose, Thanks for the videos. Being retired I've been looking for a good hobby. So I gave it a try and must not have let the borax cool enough or I used too much. End result, the gold got trapped in the borax. Big problem or easy fix?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Dan Davis Hi and thanks for watching! Depends on how much gold, sometimes little bbs get caught in the glaze and if you heat up a larger glob of gold and just roll it around the crucible when molten it will pick them up.
@Elites-asthetic
@Elites-asthetic 9 ай бұрын
What’s the item called you have the crucible sat on have you got a link
@grim5866
@grim5866 8 жыл бұрын
The glazing really is important. I did not glaze my crucible enough and now I have a mess to scrape out that is really stuck. Remelting doesn't work eather as the heat just seems to disperce.
@fourKeeps2020
@fourKeeps2020 8 жыл бұрын
Go through the acid steps again with it
@DanDavis391
@DanDavis391 9 жыл бұрын
Moose, on your e video I only saw you melt the powder. Was the 2 1/2 gr just the powder, or was that powder and gold flakes? Thanks
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Dan Davis Yup, that was just the powder from the previous videos where I recovered the gold from 1 lb or trimmed fingers, then refined it. The links to those should be right at the end of the video. Thanks!
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 9 жыл бұрын
Great series moose ! But what are goldfingers exactly? Only pci strips or also pins from cpu or is the name used for all gold found in e-waste? Where can i buy that moose scrapper shirt? eheh ciao!
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
E Zandman Gold fingers are the plated strips on the bottom of pci cards, some telecom boards, daughter boards, and ram sticks. THe name is not used for all gold in ewaste. There are many different types with several different recovery methods required. Best of luck to you!
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 9 жыл бұрын
Moose Scrapper Thank you moose!
@jessenorris1672
@jessenorris1672 9 жыл бұрын
Hi moose Just cleaned up after using the bubble system. (Got quite a haul to ;) ) Just wanted to know what is the best thing to do with the acid water mix (blue water) when I'm finished.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Hi there, if you used HCL and an air bubbler, you can save it and use it next time. Keep reusing it until it stops working then put some stainless steel in there to cement the copper out of the solution and use it some more! It can be used quite a bit! When completely done being usefull, you can evaporate all the fuilds out so you are just left with like metal salts and bring to a waste disposal facility or attempt to neutralize it and dispose safely.
@RobbyJHope
@RobbyJHope 9 жыл бұрын
Good job at capturing your first attempt! How many more have you done since this?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
epohnopulse =)....... a few......
@yasindikmen5760
@yasindikmen5760 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend what is in your hand for melting flame ?
@user-Mohammed5568
@user-Mohammed5568 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, my friend, where can I buy borax powder?
@SnyderTools
@SnyderTools 8 жыл бұрын
Question. So is it better to go through the process of collecting gold fingers and refining, or selling the cartridges whole to a recycle company?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Lytle wait, what? sounds like two different things....are you talking about ink cartridges? or Ram sticks? Ram does not come in cartridges, and ink does not have fingers.... Either way you will likely make more money selling the inks to recyclers, and prices are over inflated on ebay for gold material right now so its a sellers market. You will also make more money selling the ram in ebay as a whole as well.
@SnyderTools
@SnyderTools 8 жыл бұрын
+Moose Scrapper thank you for replying! Keep up the good work.
@mymuseofme
@mymuseofme 10 жыл бұрын
Moose, how much did it weigh before you melted? after you said the weight was 2.5 grams out of a pound of fingers.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
2.5 grams. I took 1 pound of trimmed fingers and removed the gold foils from them. Then refined them. I was left with 2.5 grams of gold powder. I smelted and ended up with 2.5 gram button. Thanks!
@ronsfi
@ronsfi 4 жыл бұрын
"Don't try this at home"...? If I try this at work, I'ma be lookin' for a new job!
@splintercelloo7
@splintercelloo7 4 жыл бұрын
Lol! Yeah and I'm looking at his shop like, "so where are you exactly" 😆
@juan-ksporty7348
@juan-ksporty7348 4 жыл бұрын
How about in the garage 🤔
@splintercelloo7
@splintercelloo7 4 жыл бұрын
@@juan-ksporty7348 garage is part of "home". The joke is that there's nowhere to do this unless you pick a public location or some random spot in the woods.
@ElGatoLoco698
@ElGatoLoco698 9 жыл бұрын
What's the point of the borax? I thought borax was used in iron and steel smelting to inhibit oxidation but gold doesn't oxidize. Is the borax used to keep the gold from sticking to the crucible?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner! Yup, the melted borax makes a nice glassy finish that allows the gold to all melt and pool together. make sit a lot easier to pour as well.
@YFUATIW
@YFUATIW 9 жыл бұрын
If you don't glaze a melting dish first, your metal will stick like hell and you'll have losses.
@TheWomblemaster
@TheWomblemaster 9 жыл бұрын
***** would a graphite cruicible make a differnce?
@Strotkyle
@Strotkyle 9 жыл бұрын
Moose scrapper, I have 2 jars of gold dust for books, am I able to melt this down? Or is this gold dust too fine to melt?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Miner Kyle If its gold then yu should be able to melt it down. You will want to make sure you have a layer of borax on top and approach it really slowly to not blow away the gold.
@ChristopherJones16
@ChristopherJones16 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much it costs to buy the number of circuit boards needed to produce 1 pound of gold fingers... which only produced about $100 worth of gold. Maybe 5lbs of boards? Somehow i feel it would cost $100 to buy that many memory cards/motherboards to get 1lb of gold finger/flakes Great videos and thanks for sharing.
@TheStickyfingers88
@TheStickyfingers88 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but wait until the economic collapse!
@ChristopherJones16
@ChristopherJones16 8 жыл бұрын
Throttle Addiction yep and guess who is about to be president.. a guy who even said "I like China, I make deals with them all the time" coincidence? Yeah I think Trump is one of the elite and his running for POTUS is all part of the agenda... hes not one for the people. hes jsut another elite who is playing the people knowing exactly what we want to hear. I have a feelign were about to see a bunch of chinese in America in the next few years queityly popping out of nowhere.. owning huge chunks of our land.. that will be given to them by Trump as payment for the debt they own.
@frediew8010
@frediew8010 8 жыл бұрын
sorry to here you dont like Trump" he's the only one" that will Make America Grate Again"
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
In my honest and humble opinion, anyone who intentionally runs for president who has been nominated by any of the big parties is going to be corrupt to a degree or have some skeletons in their closet. Its the nature of the beast. Show me someone who understands the political theater, who does NOT want to be president, and then you will have my attention. lol
@splintercelloo7
@splintercelloo7 4 жыл бұрын
Moose, THANK YOU for sharing this vid. I have been looking for actual examples of people heating gold sand like you and yours is the only video I can find. I have about 20ml of sand from a recent refining and like you, I have crucible, propane, MAPP etc but I am worried about the "sand" blowing away. Additionally the other thing I'm trying to avoid is pouring from the crucible into a graphie ingot because I doesnt look very professional when poured like that. I melted some silver last night in a graphite mold only just to see how it turned out and it certainly didn't come out shiny and clean like I'd hoped. Are you still messing with the PMs or was this one and done for you? Personally I believe the aftermarket hobbiest pay the highest premium for PMs and won't be able to recover our yields. Especially after considering our time, tools, research, trail & errors etc. Even this refined sand I hold now might melt to 1.25 but I can assure you I've spent nearly its value in spot price but I have no one to sell to. So im stuck with something that the world treats like a pawn shop. Sure its worth 1700 (ish) right now but no one wants to buy it. That is why I am trying to get as much a professional finish as possible for the "appealing" factor for some collector I guess. Not sure what my true end game is just yet. Anyway if you read this far, thank you. I hope to hear back from someone with experience.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 4 жыл бұрын
I still do PM's but only a couple times a year when I have a lot to do. I dont sell mine I save it, its a pure hobby for me. there are many out there who do sell it though. ebay is a good place, the thing is you have to have it assayed first. initial costs are the biggest, after that it calms down
@splintercelloo7
@splintercelloo7 4 жыл бұрын
@@moosescrapper5928 thanks for the reply. I fully intended to have it assayed. Initially I was going to just send everything I had to a refiner but of course all the typical "what if" type questions come up. This isn't necessarily a hobby for me but more of a one & done type project. Sreetips helped me a great deal through his vids and interaction (not sure if youve ever seen his channel). I really hoped to find someone locally that was into this sort of thing that I couldve either learned from and/or borrow tools 😆 just so I could cut some cost. But those people never surfice until I'm already out of a couple bucks. Considering I have most of the time knowledge and tools, I might just continue refining and collecting for now. I just wanted to have an exit strategy is all. One that didn't result in anything less than 95% spot price recovery. Otherwise PMs is a fools errand in this day and age. Or more specifically referring to small time recovery.
@timmecca6109
@timmecca6109 9 жыл бұрын
Moose, thank you very much for all of this info. I'm a disabled vet from Iraq and I'm looking for a new hobby and this seems to be very interesting. I've collected everything that I need, I think to get started. I do have a question - I've gotten a lot of larger melted gold pin bars from a seller. They tested as 14K and 18K but aren't pure. How do I go about getting them pure? A couple are 170g. Do you have any guidance? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely and very Respectively Tim, Retired EOD Tech, USMC, 100 % total and permanently disabled : >) but doing great.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Tim Mecca First of all, Thank you for serving our country! I would be honored to help out if I can. There are a lot of people on ebay who sell these little bars of melted ide pins. It is a scam unfortunately. The gold content of these is so incredibly small. Also, once they are made into ingots, it is much harder to refine them. In that form, you would need to use aqua regia which requires the use of nitric acid, something I have no experience with. There is a channel called indeeditdoes that has many videso with this and there is also the goldrefiningforum which is my go-to site for info. The tests you are getting back are false positives due to the other metals. Welcome to the hobby! It can be very fun, I mean, who does not like seeing gold appear right in front of you!
@toolslover3645
@toolslover3645 3 жыл бұрын
My gold dust is not melting in my crucible I am using furnace maximum temperature 1200 degrees I am not using borax
@markLoveCrypto
@markLoveCrypto 7 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR YOUR KINDLY SHARING AND NEXT I AM GOING TO TRY.
@ericalderson6784
@ericalderson6784 8 жыл бұрын
I have a small butane stove, is it possible to glazed my melting dish by placing it on the stove and then putting the borax inside after it has become hot? Or does the borax need the direct flame? Can I preheat my graphite ingot and graphite crucible this way also?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Alderson I have never tried it, typically, the crucible needs to be glowing hot.
@Krivo-lr3yq
@Krivo-lr3yq 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Moose Scrapper; well done, mate! It seems from reading through a number of comments, many are trying to work out: cost Vs time, etc. The bottom line is, who cares? You obviously get great satisfaction from the process, so, that's what counts, isn't it? Also, a few people don't realize that an ounce of gold is measured by "Troy", which is, 30 grams in the ounce, not 28 grams...! Listen, what is your crucible made from? Thanx for that.........................................................
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
+Krivo1974 Its a quartz ceramic crucible. thanks!
@jessepeterson8191
@jessepeterson8191 8 жыл бұрын
31.1 grams
@hoccine911
@hoccine911 4 жыл бұрын
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@bdaug67
@bdaug67 8 жыл бұрын
I'm new to gold recovery and I'm just wondering why the fingers have to go through the acid wash before smelting. Couldn't you simply remove the gold bearing material from the pc boards, ink cartridges, phones, etc. and smelt them?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
no, the gold layer is so incredibly thin that what you would be smelting would likely me 90% or more copper, nickel, etc. The acids remove those metals. Make sure you read CM Hokes book before trying any of this stuff. It should answer all the questions you can come up with
@bdaug67
@bdaug67 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Moose
@anooshazad3
@anooshazad3 2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of your gas capsule??
@TiborRoussou
@TiborRoussou 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Moose, why did you not put borax on the gold powder before melting the gold powder? I hear the borax keeps you from blowing gold powder everywhere when melting? Anyway, always enjoy your videos :)
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Tibor, I did not use Borax because when this video was made I was still learning alot. I do use borax now. At this time I was using the slow approach method which can work ok but you are right, a tiny amount of gold can be lost to blow out. Thanks!
@kommando1476
@kommando1476 5 жыл бұрын
Sir @@moosescrapper5928. I seen people use banking powder. Would you use it if you don't have the money to get the things you need and use the things you have at home?
@LilBethy
@LilBethy 7 жыл бұрын
can you let me know if an antique jar of 24k gold flake paint that has dried to almost a solid, approx 20 grams weight, can it be reclaimed?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 жыл бұрын
Im sure it could be. Not sure how much gold is actually in there though.
@xyd134
@xyd134 3 жыл бұрын
Respected sir what is the name of that white powder
@DustySmalls
@DustySmalls 9 жыл бұрын
With gold prices ab $35/g. Is your time worth the pay? How many hrs did this take from start to finish?
@111fishkiller
@111fishkiller 8 жыл бұрын
+CoyoteFur Gold is the best investment one can make.Especially when U "MAKE IT" yourself. No law says U have to sell it as soon as U make it. GOLD WILL GO BACK UP and a lot farther than it has in the past. Moose prob. makes more $ from gold,than U do from Yote skins...lol
@DustySmalls
@DustySmalls 8 жыл бұрын
+Fishkiller 41 my degrees makes the $$$
@therrienmichael08
@therrienmichael08 8 жыл бұрын
+Fishkiller 41 Can't be taxed on gold sale also.
@Josh62088
@Josh62088 8 жыл бұрын
just curious, how often are you collecting salvage for computers to be able to make this much gold? Is it worth the time to hunt online for freebies?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 8 жыл бұрын
+Josh M That is entirely up to you if it is worth it. I do the gold recovery part because I enjoy it, not to make money. And if you are eBay savvy, you certainly can make money off the rest of the computer parts. SO yes, I feel it is very much worth it.
@andri00597
@andri00597 8 жыл бұрын
i have different type of jewelry 10 ,12, 14 k and gold plated jewelry as well , how can i make those into pure gold
@stephenp4553
@stephenp4553 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video Mr. Scrapper.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
stephen p lol.....Mr....
@PinkPoo
@PinkPoo 7 жыл бұрын
Whats the point in using borax apart from getting the glassy look?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 жыл бұрын
prevents gold from sticking to the porous surface of the crucible, also helps draw out impurities.
@ronmoore3789
@ronmoore3789 7 жыл бұрын
ok .. ? i have over 1.5 lbs of gold fingers... that were pulled out of old boards....there solid fingers not like the flake on the green boards .... cant i just smelt them all down into one solid chunk....? or smelt it all together and refine it down to it purest form ? most of it doesnt have any soder on it however 4oz's of it does... cant that be melted outta the gold by smelting it out ?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 жыл бұрын
that would be a big mistake. The result would be far less than 25% gold. There is still layers of other metals under the gold and once its melted and alloyed together, you will need much stronger acids to purify it.
@ronmoore3789
@ronmoore3789 7 жыл бұрын
Moose Scrapper what would you advise me to use ? or do ? I have a bunch more of these gold pins ... I'd like to do it right.. and well you seem to know your stuff and iv been following you for awhile now.. thanks for your reply and anything you can tell me to help me I'd be great full. .
@aliazeez7244
@aliazeez7244 7 жыл бұрын
Hello . How is the liquidation of the gold bug
@aysersaleh3053
@aysersaleh3053 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna ask u my friend does the gold powder melt into the acid
@zakirbugti3836
@zakirbugti3836 5 жыл бұрын
Sir we found some gold pieces but these are so hard how we make soft for jewellery purpose
@Aceluckyburrito
@Aceluckyburrito 9 жыл бұрын
Gold fills of brass copper. I'm unsure if 24k leaves or flakes are actual gold
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
+Salvador Ochoa Yup, 24 leaf and flake is actual gold....just a very very very small amount.
@dilversanguenza6072
@dilversanguenza6072 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of white powder you put? Hoping for reply....
@kamalakrsna
@kamalakrsna 3 жыл бұрын
he said ... & he saud where yu can easily get it listen to the video again
@coreoftech5700
@coreoftech5700 9 жыл бұрын
so witch would have more 1 lbs of gold fingers or one lbs of ide pins i have tons of ide pins and also should i do small batches or would it be fine to do all at once. thanks also how are you able to keep your hands that close to 1010 celisus wouldn't that be like hold your hand over a bunsent burner
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 9 жыл бұрын
Luke Ketelhut Honestly I am not sure, there are a lot of variables. My gut says the gold fingers because the base material green board is far lighter than brass the base material under the gold in ide pins however, I would say there is much more surface area of gold in one pound of ide pins. As for the pins, you can do all at once if you like, for one pound you would need at least a half gallon of hcl. as for the heat, it is only that hot at the focal point of the flame.
@coreoftech5700
@coreoftech5700 9 жыл бұрын
ok thanks
@donatellodonati4525
@donatellodonati4525 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Moose, is there an easy way to recover the copper that's diluted in the muriatic acid
@joe35lok
@joe35lok 8 жыл бұрын
The copper??? how much copper is in there?
@mudmaniac2977
@mudmaniac2977 8 жыл бұрын
ya stainless steel spoon just throw it in and wait a day or so and scrape the copper off the spoon and soak again
@Thegardeningmcgyver
@Thegardeningmcgyver 6 жыл бұрын
Hi man I asked on a different video what auric was but now I see. Thanks. Question, do you have to glaze a graphite crucible?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 6 жыл бұрын
nope, just a healthy layer of carbon helps from the torch flame
@Thegardeningmcgyver
@Thegardeningmcgyver 6 жыл бұрын
Moose Scrapper thanks for helping a newbie. It means alot.
@Thegardeningmcgyver
@Thegardeningmcgyver 6 жыл бұрын
Could this be done in a filter, after washing the gold powder. You know while the filter and powder are still wet. That way nothing blows away when smelting???? To me it makes sense. Your opinion?
@stevegarces8626
@stevegarces8626 6 жыл бұрын
Clint Jackson wouldn't it have to dry before it goes to proper melting point plus you don't want water gases to pop instantaneously causing small explosions?
@albertmwelase3528
@albertmwelase3528 Жыл бұрын
Borax is same as boron where to buy borax
@meditaionformind6921
@meditaionformind6921 4 жыл бұрын
Sir I have gold in powder form in sand how can I recover it
@iamaaron5406
@iamaaron5406 10 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on how to scrap a refrigerator?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 10 жыл бұрын
I could, but it would have to wait until spring. My days of scrapping outside are done for the season. Getting hit with a noreaster at this very moment.
@iamaaron5406
@iamaaron5406 10 жыл бұрын
Ohhh that's fine can't wait for it.
@woodworkingandepoxy643
@woodworkingandepoxy643 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question i really need an answer to. why cant i melt silver in a graphite crucible using map gas? works just fine in one like you're using here but just wont melt completely in graphite. i buy silver along with scrapping and starting to get more into scrapping but ill buy generic and melt into hand poured. just like the feel of it better
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, I do not recall anyone saying that I couldn't melt silver in a graphite crucible....
@censoredone1374
@censoredone1374 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to melt gold powder with sunlight using a magnifying glass?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 4 жыл бұрын
nope
@dieaaljabi1364
@dieaaljabi1364 8 жыл бұрын
hi how are you my friend i want ask you what can i doing in solution before felter fin gold
@tracyoneal5030
@tracyoneal5030 7 жыл бұрын
thank u this gave all the info i needed with all your videos on subject.god bless
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