How To Handle A Fake Cop!

[@LawByMike]

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[@BeeNuke]

Cool

[@stevenhanna-xh4xf]

First

[@qalisojede7055]

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[@goc19777]

Yoo

[@GhostofUrzikstan1]

Thanks law by Mike your tip totally worked

[@ricksterre]

"Do you know why I pulled you over today?" "I invoke the fifth"

[@ellisgarbutt1925]

that is getting old & boring

[@מקטהקלמוורה]

​@@ellisgarbutt1925i invoke the fifth

[@AveragePers0n]

@@ellisgarbutt1925your old and boring

[@GermanEmpire19144]

@@ellisgarbutt1925 i invoke the fifth

[@Oskar123]

@@ellisgarbutt1925 I invoke the fifth

[@jeremyortiz2927]

Las Vegas 911: "911 Emergency, Please hold"

[@gonen2277]

Nah fr my ass will be dead and buried by the time they answer

[@kingvill100]

Portland 911 “you have reached Portland 911 your call is important to us, please leave your name and the kind of drug the assailant appears to be on and we will get back to you within 7-10 business days”

[@lanxy2398]

New York 911: “911 what’s your emergency? if you aren’t being attacked or dying we’ll send a squad car in 5-10 hours from now”

[@asharsiddiqui9647]

Detroit 911 “sorry this number is no longer in service”

[@hallrules]

Muzak like postal

[@Nick__T]

Instructions unclear: I called 911 while a fake cop was pulling me over and now I got a ticket for driving with my phone.

[@searuxianstudios9200]

Good question

[@datguy7834]

@@searuxianstudios9200 question??

[@zakaroonie44animated15]

​@@searuxianstudios9200good question

[@theplanesdude]

What illegal is to text while driving not to call someone whether using the car media or the phone speaker

[@ryanroth9291]

@@theplanesdudedepends on your state

[@Vanguard7274]

Instructions unclear, the Arkansas cop performed a PIT maneuver after twenty seconds of me trying to find a safe place to stop, flipping my car and nearly killing me and my unborn child.

[@discount724]

Git gud at driving skrub

[@jamepitcher9701]

Yep that sound like arkansas

[@Potte]

​@@jamepitcher9701It was Arkansas. As I recall, both mom and baby fortunately survived, but it was down to sheer dumb luck that they did. Actual police are a far bigger threat to public safety than any fake ones.

[@Lunatico9SpeedCuber]

I immediately thought of this case

[@bigisrick]

Wrong. The dispatcher told her to stop and she didn't.

[@thatonesavage2639]

what makes this worse is that there are real cops that dont act like it and end up breaking the law and the cops cant do nothing about these corrupt cops until its too late

[@leia0511]

I personally am afraid of being around a cop. Ironic. Every time a cop is around, makes me become paranoid that I might had committed something bad, even though I never did. A fake cop is as scary as a real cop when they start asking questions or request you to pull over.

[@TheRedneckGamer556]

@@leia0511Nothing wrong with cops lol. I’m a Police Explorer, respect them they respect you. The City I’m a PD Explorer at, as long as your respectful they’ll let you off. Literally they let a guy off doing 120 in a 75.

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

​@@leia0511i understand why

[@Joesolo13]

​@@TheRedneckGamer556 Do me a favor and ask the next officer why they issue PBA cards and if they respect them.

[@Joesolo13]

​@@TheRedneckGamer556also letting a guy off for doing 120 is literally not doing their job.

[@qalisojede7055]

Just imagine a police saw his channels

[@yahyayazgi]

I mean there probobly are some but if they sue they know that they will lose

[@looney9105]

​@@yahyayazgi??

[@maxwellquipey1]

​@@looney9105He's saying Law By Mike is the goat af being a lawyer

[@barneythethug]

@@maxwellquipey1who would win Saul goodman or law by mike

[@ashtonrobinson-clarke3834]

Law by Mike by a landslide

[@codybean2981]

And then there's the lady in Arkansas that did this, and the cop shoved her off the road, flipping her car three times in a ditch.

[@CalvinHinkle]

No. Dispatch told her to stop and she didn't

[@dexeronstarsurge]

​@@CalvinHinkleshe was trying to find a safe place to pull over.

[@codybean2981]

@CalvinHinkle Yes, it was in a construction area and for both the cops safety and her own she slowed down put her 4 ways on and was continuing until there was safe place to pull over. Because of this the officer did get in trouble, I don't think he was fired, but I think the state implemented more training on proper ways to pull over since this happening.

[@fordsquared537]

@@CalvinHinkleand that of course justified use of deadly force

[@b-chroniumproductions3177]

​@@codybean2981not fired??? Bro I think McDonald's is more strict on their employees than the average police department!

[@quackadoodle4242]

I was taught this as a teenager, I've had cops tell me they appreciate it when people do this, good cops don't like to be on the side of a dark road either

[@CrypticCobra]

They also don't like to be lured into a trap. Drive slow and find the closest well-lit populated area- totally fine. Continue to drive for several minutes, possibly setting up an ambush, not fine at all. If you refuse to stop for an extended period of time, expect the cop to be hyper aware of the situation and view you as a likely threat. They have no idea what you are planning.

[@AzureRadio]

Their safety isn't YOUR problem. They have a gun and qualified immunity, they can figure it out

[@nyankers]

​@@AzureRadiouh bro, you just said it, they have a gun and qualified immunity, so why do you wanna make them feel at risk? do you like getting shot at or something?

[@kennethterrell1167]

Remember the Arkansas woman in a red suv? You know, the one where the officer engaged his lights for her to pull over but instead she slowed down and turned on the emergency flashers. The officer then proceeded to flip her vehicle over with a pit maneuver. Good times amaright?

[@JosephCarvell]

She also won a massive lawsuit against them for it

[@carlost856]

​@@JosephCarvellit won't help you none if you're dead.

[@JosephCarvell]

@@carlost856 absolutely. The behavior was completely unnecessary

[@nyankers]

​@@JosephCarvellshe won but the cops didn't lose, the taxpayers did

[@JosephCarvell]

@@nyankers 💯

[@WastingSanityGR]

The only issue here is that for a real cop, this could be a red flag. They normally consider you fleeing if you continue to drive for a certain amount of time after they turn their lights on. So although on paper this looks good, it could backfire. Stay safe.

[@mykillmetal1814]

Pretty good advice… if you want to be dragged from the car for “evading” and arrested.

[@ekiM2K]

These steps is a one way ticket to getting your minivan pit maneuvered and flipped.

[@goldenboy3154]

Like that one pregnant woman

[@ekiM2K]

@@goldenboy3154 Yep, that's the one.

[@spiderzvow1]

Exactly. Cops are criminals and will do wtver they want with no consequences.

[@total_blasphemy]

Yeah except it was a corrupt cop

[@kristenrockwell6637]

​@@total_blasphemyyou don't need the word corrupt in that sentence, it's implied.

[@Orcasro]

At this point if the person pulling you over is actually a cop its scarier

[@little_foxy9118]

Calling 911 first to verify their identity will take some time. Imagine it takes so long the cop initiates a pursuit 😂😂

[@SisterMaryElephant]

Just don't take more than 30 seconds. They'll assume you're fleeing and PIT maneuver your ass.

[@i_love_games110]

nah arkansas troopers will pit you anyway

[@TheGamingNia]

*"Sir do you know why you're getting arrested?"* _"no sir"_ *"refusing to pull over for a traffic stop, and driving through a shopping center."* _"but LawByMike said-"_ *"Sir, you drove into a building and through a crowd of pedestrians while running from a cop."*

[@cult_of_odin]

"Sir do you know why I crashed your car then beat and tased you? Because you didn't pull over within 3 seconds of me turning on my lights even though we were in an unsafe construction zone with no shoulder."

[@stuntgimp849]

​@@cult_of_odinwow dude, good job bringing in something nobody was talking about under a comment that was clearly a joke. You must be so fun at parties.

[@TheGamingNia]

@@stuntgimp849 my comment was a joke based on a mis-speak from Mike, and I took perry's comment as a joke based on absurdity, so it kinda fits here tbf

[@stuntgimp849]

@@TheGamingNia im a little confused by what you mean, so I'll just explain why I said what I said. You made a joke, which was pretty funny, and then this guy took the same thing, but made it a serious topic about something that actually happened, criticizing the police officer in said incident. I was upset cause there was no reason to ruin the joke by bringing in a serious subject

[@atsuchiya624]

@@stuntgimp849 nobody else in the thread seems to think he ruined the joke. You’re treating him like he’s some kind of asshole when you’re one the being rude. If you support the police and don’t appreciate people being critical of them, I can at least understand that (even if I don’t agree with it). The issue he brought up is very relevant to the video. It’s also pretty indefensible, so I get why someone pro-cop wouldn’t like hearing about it. We should praise good cops and criticize bad cops.

[@azerosblank5036]

Except when you dial the hotline, it redirects you to an automated call, and you would have to wait for minutes before being able to actually verify with the system.

[@NorthLoftier]

Rule: "Always try to be in a busy area and closer to others, with communication at least, when encountering cops."

[@Me-vo4kl]

"Do you know why I pulled you over?" "I invoke the second"

[@donmac5124]

Imagine putting your 4 ways on, only for a cop to p.i.t manoeuvre you into the ditch😂

[@Tyler-jd3ex]

Alright, I guess I’ll just go to the police station *Gets pitted into the side of the wall*

[@kirktennyson612]

Ya with my luck the cop station is 30 miles away and across town. I'm sure the cop will understand Lol LOL 😂

[@theravenofthedeep9203]

Bro just thinking about fake cops is terrifying 😰 Edit: 351 likes?! Lets gooooo. This is the first time I've ever been able to make one of these edits

[@troublesometoaster4492]

Sadly it's a reality in many more ways than just pulling you over. In my country our national guard has a program where they check on lonely elders often to make sure they are okay, especially around holidays... Which has made it a prime time for people pretending to be officers to get into the houses of elderly people and one fake officer pretends to do a check up on their house and steals their money or valuables while the other distracts them. Being lonely elders, with no friends or family nearby, sometimes it takes ages for these cases to be found. It however has also resulted in some really great situations and headlines, such as an old man driving them away with a stick he kept behind his door for that exact situation.

[@falc0n2222]

​@@troublesometoaster4492That's so fucking sad. May those people rot in hell for their shit.

[@GuardianPassport]

my biggest question is how do they get a perfectly matchable police car and uniform I know you can also collect them because it can be collectors item like the uniform or the helmet that cop use on motorcycle etc so they can buy them but how do they even get and where do they find a perfect uniform it cost alot but why would someone impersonate a cop is it either they want to be cop but cant since they are scaredy cats or cant pass the academy to be a cop if your gonna roast me or scream at me or start a war please dong I invoke the fifth

[@10pitate]

real cops are already terrifying

[@10pitate]

​@@GuardianPassportdawg all they want is steal money, they aint a wannabe cops

[@SomeRandomPerson]

There's cases where people have done this and then been arrested and charged for failing to follow the law. Unfortunately the laws on pulling over for police don't allow you to keep driving to a well lit area, or not stopping until you verify its real police.

[@Wrathlon]

Yeah here is how that actually goes: > Dont pull over immediately > Get pitted into a guardrail and shot

[@terracottapie4575]

Instructions unclear, drove into a shopping center and now even more cops are behind me

[@drophure]

Some cops will still pull a pit maneuver if you don't stop immediately

[@charlesasdf]

I'll pull the police over for reckless operation of a vehicle on public roads

[@CrypticCobra]

A cop is not going to PIT you when driving at a slow rate of speed when the only reason for the stop is a traffic infraction. They might arrest you when you eventually stop (it becomes your burden to prove you were not fleeing/eluding), but they are not going to escalate a slow-speed pursuit into a traffic crash. More likely they would have additional units come and just box you in.

[@drophure]

@CrypticCobra kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJqlkIOlrtCKd9k here's a video where they did exactly as they were supposed to according to the driver's education for the state and were still pit maneuvered. This essentially the exact situation described, and still resulted in a pit maneuver

[@fluid1978]

​@@CrypticCobrathey've done it before in Arkansas

[@genericbread175]

@@fluid1978that was one instance that everyone in the comments is freaking out about. The Titanic sank, but does that mean every cruise ship will sink? No. In fact, most of them don’t, just like most cops won’t try and flip your car.

[@kathleenmccrory9883]

"Stop punching cops.." 😂

[@ZenMybe]

And now I get an extra ticket for trying to flee arrest

[@apothic0n]

Thats not a ticket its a felony

[@CrypticCobra]

This is advise from a lawyer. You need to understand this lawyer is coming from the perspective of winning a court case, NOT avoiding a court case. You very well may be arrested for fleeing (it's what you did in the cops perspective), a lawyer can however pull the 911 call and prove to a jury you lacked intent to flee. If you want to avoid court in the first place? ya, prob just play nice with the cop and do what they say. You won't get discretionary privilege by building defenses you can use against them in court before they have even decided what they are going to do. Why would a cop give a warning to that kind of person.

[@Khadi-C]

​@@CrypticCobraLaw by Mike was referring to fake cops. Thanks for validating everyone's fear of police.

[@Bilal_Aslam_]

What To Do If Jeremy Dewitte Pulls You Over

[@theplanesdude]

XD

[@John-Smith02]

You should be able to tell if it's at night since he has orange and purple lights

[@WATCH-IT-BUSTER]

HOOF HIM IN THE NUTS 😂

[@Algebruh2407]

Idk, hide your kids or something.

[@damnedlegionaire]

​@@Algebruh2407Actually do. The man's a registered Discord mod.

[@NotBadCouldBeBetter]

Its safer to be pulled over by a fake cop rather than a real cop now a days!

[@vunrablemind2227]

It's great that Mike makes these thing interesting and sometimes funny, I love it

[@123duker]

I agree with these steps, in a perfect world.. I remember a story about a pregnant woman throwing on her hazards and slowed down under the speed limit trying to find a safe place to pull over - and that cop was an asshole and performed a pit maneuver on her and flipped her car.. 😪

[@dennisssmock3553]

But if you punch them in the nose you'll definitely know if they're a real copper or not.

[@MazdaRX7007]

Yeah, but if it's real then they just start shooting and you're dead.

[@dennisssmock3553]

A if they're not smart enough to know not to punch a cop in the nose. Or anyone. They get what they got.

[@riverrat5822]

The fact Unmarked cars exist is insane. So dangerous.

[@aggrospud7698]

Dude really said "it's a real cop you're safe to pull over" 😂😂😂😂😂.

[@beeziebubs2756]

The cop when you don’t pull over after 3 seconds: guess we’re doing the pit maneuver

[@ekklesiast]

"it's safe to pull over" gets shot with safe bullets

[@TheRedneckGamer556]

Pretty easy to spot an un marker police car. The most common un marked cars; Ford Tarus, Chevy Caprice, Chevy Tahoe, Ford explorer (2013-2022), Dodge chargers.

[@Eri-Wi-]

One important thing to remember about police departments across the country. A uniform officer will have the authority over a plan non-uniform officer until the non-uniform officer identified themselves as law enforcement.

[@CajunReaper95]

I’ve noticed this issue only seems to happen in bigger cities instead of smaller areas.

[@AzureRadio]

Depends on state. Some states you have to pull over IMMEDIATELY and will be ticketed/arrested for fleeing for not doing so. Its funny because they are basically forcing you to stop in the middle of the highway and I've seen cases of cops getting pissy for waiting a block to SAFELY pull over. Absolutely stupid, forget their safety, isn't your concern

[@gooberro_benni]

You could also ask for his name and badge number, an old classic.

[@apothic0n]

Even real cops sometimes say “I dont have to give you that information” and sometimes their right because it depends on the specific police department

[@TheFrozenMoogle]

​@@apothic0nNope. Depends by the federal US law. They are required to identify themselves upon request if they ask for any information from you.

[@Sachiel235]

A pregnant woman got pit maneuvered for doing that. Literally had her flashers on and was going the speed limit.

[@giordanobruno1333]

Blue line flag gang will hurt you no matter what dispatch says.

[@admirallily]

I’d recommend calling dispatch instead of 911. I have highway patrol, and several local dispatch offices saved in my phone just in case.

[@TheCoolMT60]

These are some great tips!

[@soulfullportrait147]

I’ve had this happen believe it or not, was pouring rain and the “highway patrol sheriff” pulled us over for speeding, we were literally going 10 mph at the most because the rain was so torrential. Of course he acts like a dick, accuses my mother of using drugs and just starts being overall condescending, this goes on for like 5 mins before he “ lets us go” we call the police immediately after to report him and go and behold, he wasn’t a real cop… stay safe out there friends

[@Epic_Memer_Man]

the perfect loop doen't exi-

[@Tymarley]

@lawbymike please make a mini series on your youtube 🙏🏿

[@Mzain.]

The perfect loop doesn't exist:

[@Nkw022]

Or if you are already pulled over ask for a badge number if they can’t provide a valid 3 to 4 digit badge number ask for a supervisor if they don’t provide that call 911

[@LIGHTBL0X]

If only Samuel Witwicky knew this

[@lordbertox4056]

I remember the story of a pregnant woman that got rammed and flipped over by the cop because she was taking "too long " to pull over. She was waiting to stop in a safer place because the cop was stopping her in a zone isolated and without any lights

[@currentfaves65]

Seriously doubt 911 in my area would cooperate with this.

[@spiderzvow1]

If they even answer

[@patientelijah861]

If you’ve watched No Country for Old Men, you’ll understand why some people find getting pulled over so scary.

[@bigisrick]

Because of a fictional movie? Those people be dumb

[@75egcg]

I remember a lady following the protocol of driving to a well lit area while a cop was trying to pull her over. He took it as her “fleeing” And proceeded to kick her ass. Cops need to work with us too

[@kingstudios9351]

Mike you think I’m let a fake cop pull me over I will be gone

[@jailoutafreecard4414]

How do you know hes fake?

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

As you should

[@henryjubeda7617]

Step 1 start blasting

[@frogpaste]

The loop changes the 'stop punching cops' line to mean the attorney will stop punching cops. 😂 "Get over it and stop punching cops." - The patient is clearly the one punching the cops. "I will help you get over it and stop punching cops." - Now it's the attorney who will stop punching cops.

[@Semikon]

If you call the police to check if it's a real cop and you shouldn't stop until he verifies it wouldn't that make you drive while using a cell phone

[@blank9793]

This is great advice. It's a scary situation to be in and any good cop should be understanding.

[@kerryedavis]

You know what happens to people who follow that advice? Sometimes they get pit-maneuvered, rolled, maybe killed and/or their child killed...

[@TheSteam02]

"Fake cop" is just another term for "hitman."

[@SirberusKhaos]

or "Serial killer"?

[@RobbieNguyen]

or "People with uncontrollable power trips"

[@dm2ortiz]

I remember there was a case where a woman thought it was a fake cop. So she drove four more miles to the police station. Where she was pulled out of her car and brutally beaten by the police officers. They didn't see it as her being safe they seen it as her being disrespectful to their authority.

[@potassium8759]

Came to comment this

[@birdoutsideofwindow]

Man therapists nowadays can give advice on ANYTHING

[@EmRenee]

What about marked cars? What if someone stole the car? Or made it looked like it is a marked car?

[@stellaluuk2713]

Unless you are in Arkansas, those cops will pit you if you refuse to pull over immediately even if you feel unsafe. They post the videos online!

[@davidv.2996]

What would happen if an off duty cop gets pulled over by a fake cop

[@Dawidson_CZE2521]

"Hey LawByMike, your tip totally worked🧐🧐👍👍"

[@bunnyraft1963]

Imagine pulling someone over and they drive to the police station.

[@KarnBlueEarring]

Step 1 is already ineffective against real cops. There's this video of a pregnant woman who did exactly that. She got her car rolled by the cop just a minute later. All she did was seeking a suitable place to stop.

[@jailoutafreecard4414]

Post proof before you make statements

[@netsplit64]

This happened over by Harrison Arkansas. Cop was rewarded with paid vacation

[@jailoutafreecard4414]

@@netsplit64 your gonna have to narrow it down. And keep the rhetoric to yourself

[@KarnBlueEarring]

@@jailoutafreecard4414 Search for "cop rolls pregnant woman's car" on KZbin. Many newssources show up for it.

[@EAMitch1619]

If they don't end up pitting you, they often hold you at gunpoint, arrest, and charge you with fleeing and evading if you do as you said.

[@stacyowl1658]

reminds me of that true crime case where a real cop faked being on duty to pull over women alone then proceeded to rape+murder them

[@tristan702]

Michigan just passed a hands free law so now you can’t have your phone in your hands at all while you’re driving even for calls. And not all cars can make calls. So now I can imagine I’m in a scenario like this and it ends up being a real cop and now I’m definitely in trouble for having my phone in my hands

[@Atrulion]

"Before you pull over, call the cops" That's the best idea ever. Call the cops while driving

[@sebastianacacia7621]

There was a big incident of a fake cop in Nova Scotia Canada in 2020. It started a big fundraiser to help the victims

[@timothyowen90]

There’s a bunch of hill jacks driving around where I live acting like they’re the cops but it’s pretty obvious they’re not

[@carultch]

Impersonating a police officer is a felony. Any time you suspect someone is a blue light bandit, report them to the real police immediately.

[@LOSTTEMPLAR]

Imagine getting pulled over by Officer LawbyMike... You know you ain't winning this one at all.

[@sheilayoung9082]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dr.thybies]

bro's worried about being pulled over by fake cops and goes to see a fake therapist

[@lurkerrekrul]

"Put on your flashers and drive the speed limit while you call 911", "If you don't have a cell phone, drive to the nearest police station." - Well, at least until the cop loses his patience and pulls a PIT maneuver to flip your car. Which HAS happened when people didn't pull over immediately, despite local laws saying they have a right to drive to a well-lit area for a traffic stop.

[@absolutelyjongaming]

I love this man

[@thelionandthebee1933]

You are so very helpful. What a blessing you are.

[@christopherprofet6239]

How about requiring a marked unit on all traffic stops? Its easy to get red/blue lights, but its way harder to get a livery.

[@DaMoonIsMyHome]

What also helps: - ask them for their police certificat. It’s usually a small card that fits in their wallet. - make sure the police officer speaks the official language of your country. Every real police officer must speak that language (example: you’re in Belgium, the officer speaks French but not Dutch, they’re not a real cop unless they can really prove it)

[@th3sh3rm4n4]

This isn't true for Belgium, police officers have to be able to speak the language of the area they are stationed in. Expecting all police officers in Belgium to speak Dutch, French and German is unrealistic...

[@ncamp2126]

This happens more than i thought.

[@bachiryacine6250]

Does that really happens often? Fake cops ? If so what's their objectifs ?

[@bluemadnessREAL]

That loop was smooth

[@Space_Cadet_]

I once got berated for not pulling over fast enough, backup was called, and the car was searched. So use this advice at your own risk.

[@ellaerith3199]

not worried abt fake cops, I'm worried about real ones with real guns

[@TOGade-dj6jh]

Lately I’ve been pulled over a lot lately. My former neighbor was apparently a drug dealer and now the cops think I am too!? Never committed a crime in my life, so after having the utmost respect for police officers I now loath them and have nothing nice to say. Sad but true…

[@alexanderdeleon8725]

for once this is actually the perfect loop

[@longbow6416]

Act accordingly, beloved

[@andyc.6879]

Mike making a whole canon

[@mableisverydumb6987]

These comments are fresh

[@NateJGardner]

In reality, if you don't pull over immediately, you get about 30 seconds before they pit maneuver you, even if you acknowledge it with your hazards and drive the speed limit. This keeps happening to people who just want to find a safe place to pull over, then they get dragged out of their upside down cars at gunpoint, and the cops find themselves innocent of any wrongdoing.

[@darthickrotachi4862]

Wait for the real Bamboozler when the Fake Cop manages to relay your call to a Fake Dispatcher.

[@hwway4488]

There’s a court case in the US about people who did this but were charged with fleeing or something? They put on their hazards and slowed down but kept driving because they were transporting someone who was having a medical emergency and the cops initially tried to pull them over for speeding

[@plus_cosplays]

This is something that actually happened to a young girl. A man who had gotten out of prison somehow after having multiple counts of rape and other sexual assaults put red lights on his car and tried to pull her over. She called a cartoon number ( I don’t remember it at the moment) and it’s a legit number that tells you all the unmarked cop vehicles but tbh calling the ACTUAL police would be better 😂 luckily they were able to get to her in time and he was arrested again

[@Peter-Luior]

I was expecting the ending to reveal Mike was a fake lawyer/psychologist.