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@giacomotezza24504 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, finally a practical guide to the application of wave manipulation methods. Usually only definitions of the basic concepts are found on KZbin.
@TryAllAndError4 жыл бұрын
You do realize that in the image you used to show the freeze, there were only 2 more caster minions, right? RIGHT!?
@Vereki4 жыл бұрын
there was also an additional melee minion though, so there was 3 more minions
@JMGaming12884 жыл бұрын
My favorite type of content you release! Thank you!
@WotYouAgain4 жыл бұрын
so what happens when the enemy has superior wave control and perma shoves you in and roams? (mid)
@greenlion73554 жыл бұрын
Well I guess you can do nothing but hope that ur jungler has enough braincells to gank you next time you are being pushed in
@immagoingbacktobed17424 жыл бұрын
Wait for them to roam, ping mia, fast push, and reset.
@zz45qq334 жыл бұрын
What champ u play?
@WotYouAgain4 жыл бұрын
@@zz45qq33 ekko mid
@N3207H054 жыл бұрын
i have this prob iwth vlad so often
@Hyydrotoo4 жыл бұрын
What is it with League youtubers using censored hentai on their thumbnails lmao
@lanceflores14664 жыл бұрын
Wuts wrong with that
@dragonjo-fy4ki4 жыл бұрын
Christoph Schoppe all league players are weeks lol
@HookupCulture4 жыл бұрын
Sexuality is one of the Core Motivations for life, whether your horny or not, whether your asexual or not, you're more likely to take the clickbait if it has some sexual aspect to it.
@samplebriefmint42044 жыл бұрын
They aren't, though? The artists are linked in the description most of the time and as far as I know have never been 18+.
@louisrobitaille58104 жыл бұрын
Clickbaiting... and it works.
@sololeveling73904 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Im gonna rewatch this like before every game so that it gets imprinted on me
@zMacah4 жыл бұрын
A strange thing happened to me😂 Me and my enemy in top lane just continued to play aggressive and trade, and the lane was always in neutral state, because we had enough wave clearing and we was pretty the same. And it was so dumb to just sit in the lane for all the game😂
@aro43224 жыл бұрын
Typical top laners
@igamse4 жыл бұрын
I like when this happens because when the two of you leaves your lane finally you will find yourselfs much stronger than others cuz you were the only ones farming, everyone dies and you are in a 1v1 once again
@aBanabis4 жыл бұрын
Yo, bro. I love your DotA 2 vids.. Speeed is a legend... but yeah umm.. Skill-capped made this guide like.. years ago I think? :P It's been awhile since I've seen any Gameleap guides come up, and it's kind of worrying. Don't tell me ya'll falling behind!? :((( ProGuides been pumping a bunch out lately, and though they can't really BEAT Skill-capped, they are at least pumping out a lot of quality stuff. I hope yall don't give up on LoL...I mean, ya'll will always have Speeed I guess, but it's not like he can do your LoL guides too :P Makes me wonder like... It's CRAZY seeing how different in quality your LoL and DotA 2 guides are. Actually insane. I mean, I hope I'm not offending anyone, it's not intentional, just speaking my thoughts.
@joel73424 жыл бұрын
Proguides doesn't really teach advance things and is more geared towards lower mmr players for the most part.
@Jim.Afanas4 жыл бұрын
"Never let the enemy freeze on you" Me playing sion: You freeze on me, i R ur mid 😎
@louisrobitaille58104 жыл бұрын
The way you explained the freeze was actually so weird. You only showed 1 type of freeze. How about the position of the freeze? The number of minons depends on how close the freeze is to your tower. If you want to freeze in he middle, you want the exact same number of minions on both sides.
@AzukiASMRGaming3 жыл бұрын
I usually like to farm safely under tower when playing mid/top, but didn’t know it’s cons except that I can’t really roam. Next time I’ll try taking one for the team when I can. Thank you!
@nikolowo3694 жыл бұрын
Sería genial que esta información también la traduzcan, por ejemplo al español :(. I like this channel, but the language is my problem, salu2!
@paulwitter51844 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! Maybe I can still escape the bronze elo hell!
@Rbandzz.234 жыл бұрын
Play mechanically easy champs that u personally enjoy and focus on macro play
@paulwitter51844 жыл бұрын
@@Rbandzz.23 but i like to Master champ like lee sin, but maybe you are right. Which elo are you?
@martinpenev34524 жыл бұрын
@@paulwitter5184if you are bronze please for the love of god dont play champs like lee that require actual skill
@ericroland49564 жыл бұрын
Just got out of iron hell. Now I'm in bronze hell. They are both bad haha. I'm not amazing but some of these guys on my team are just terrible.
@paulwitter51844 жыл бұрын
@@martinpenev3452 bro i am actually kinda good on him, I just have to end the games earlier... lee doesnt really scale so good
@p3nz1play594 жыл бұрын
How is the music genre called played in the beginning?
@taylorring10623 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the soundtrack in the background??
@NaliAroni4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but how do you keep a freeze as Tristana?
@TheScoutnation3 жыл бұрын
You don't saddly
@fejeslovas724 жыл бұрын
Waiiiit why is my play in this video and how??????????????? xddddddddddddddd 4:37
@pauldehaas85274 жыл бұрын
Great explaination
@ukiyoamz4 жыл бұрын
What if their minion wave crashes your tower but ur next minion wave has already arrived so their wave attacks your most recent wave
@theinv3rse7124 жыл бұрын
I guess that the most reasonable strategy would be to fast push that wave and try to shove yours, that way you will be able to reset or keep it neutral, you can also create a freeze with a bit more effort
@c0vr1g4 жыл бұрын
i recognize that jinx in the thumbnail too damn well..
@apexeonu36384 жыл бұрын
Damn then do you know who's the artist?lol
@justinian772 жыл бұрын
@@apexeonu3638 AyyaSAP
@GamerDadTV4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids ;)
@robinn99513 жыл бұрын
shouldn't it be dived instead of dove? i might be wrong but the latter sounds wrong in my ears...
@benkellens91434 жыл бұрын
A new guide to get better ? ooooh shit here we go again
@khalid.51394 жыл бұрын
what will happen if i shove the wave into the enemy tower fast ?
@theinv3rse7124 жыл бұрын
You will possibly create an unintentional freeze. Or you will reset and waves will collide at the centre, becoming neutral
@kensword734 жыл бұрын
When there are two more caster minions instead of 3
@Salmagros4 жыл бұрын
Thunbnail sauce????
@franciscoandrade47094 жыл бұрын
What if the enemy laner doesn't let you freeze the lane although u are a bit ahead.
@ilparil52364 жыл бұрын
@@kelc5620 exactly that, let them know what happens if they try to break it. You either chunck them so hard they are gonna pussy out of the next fights. Or you kill them and the same happens. If he is gone you can do what you like, freeze unless team is behind. And shove if he is roaming
@theinv3rse7124 жыл бұрын
If you're ahead it means you're closer to your powerspike, thus your should be stronger, trade with the enemy and if you manage to kill them it's gold, or just force them to recall, it's a win anyways. If they still insist on breaking the freeze, push hard af and deny them any gold, roam and get kills
@michealfoux4 жыл бұрын
how do you break a frozen wave?
@theinv3rse7124 жыл бұрын
Slow pushing, you have minion advantage and if you watch the vid a 'pushing lane' is basically the opposite of a 'frozen lane'. Try to shove your wave under the enemy turret and you're clean
@michealfoux4 жыл бұрын
@@theinv3rse712 no I mean how do you broke a frozen wave when it's being in done with you. like you're enemy is freezing the lane how do you break it?
@theinv3rse7124 жыл бұрын
@@michealfoux Alright, then you should try and call for a gank. The jungler should assist you in that case. If you kill the enemy laner you should be able to clear the wave and shove yours under turret, that way you reset and replan your strategy. Basically kill the enemy laner or force him base, and push asap
@dumdum62154 жыл бұрын
bonk 16:14
@cristi98344 жыл бұрын
Why is he talking like he is speaking to 5 yos
@yacob65344 жыл бұрын
He is
@antalfarkas50924 жыл бұрын
4:36
@austinhmmm90874 жыл бұрын
Warwick is a top laner! Join me in making proguides put him in the top lane meta list!
@Lthe14 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't ALWAYS push the wave fully. Some people are half-brains and will die to their opponent returning to lane or a jung gank with no health or vision. Myself included. Might be a good thing to include.
@N3207H054 жыл бұрын
then you neutralize the wave
@saethone4 жыл бұрын
you never want to take unnecessary risks in league, if you're too low w/ no escapes, or don't have knowledge of enemy locations, its not safe to push all the way to tower - its better to lose a push and go to neutral than push and get ganked
@Lthe14 жыл бұрын
@@saethone yeah, tell that to all my teammates. I've gotten better at it, but still get hardfocused at times.
@fyriiee4 жыл бұрын
I mean junglers don't exactly need to know this until maybe diamond+
@BeinIan4 жыл бұрын
They absolutely do. Your job as a jungler is to help your laners get ahead. If you gank their lane when the enemy was slow pushing, you may need to help them crash the wave and get a clean recall after that kill. Or if they die and you're close enough to catch the enemy wave before it crashes to set up a freeze, it can minimize their losses from that death.
@ilparil52364 жыл бұрын
@@BeinIan ofcourse they do. I have been fucked over by junglers so much. that now if I don't want a gank I just don't help at all. Junglers don't care about lane state, and sometimes with the position of the wave if you get a kill you are still even. And if your jungler gets the kill you are behind. I mean that is not worth it because say you don't even get the kill, or you get counter ganked. Then you are fucked right? And since it is a 1v1 you only get back when the opponent fucks up as hard as you did. Also sometimes when you die and the jungler basic attacks the wave (without being able to push it in) instead of just letting the wave in the middle. Then your opponent gets a freeze on you and you lose everything after that as well haha. No way to get back in Laning phase. I mean as a jungler if you know wave management, your Laners are punished less by your/their mistakes. So many times I have been baited by my jungler is unreal, and whenever I want to dive where is jungler at?
@ilparil52364 жыл бұрын
And besides that, the other comment about the slow to enemy. Let's say you are low after the gank right, or low mana. So many times in high gold your jungler just leaves because the gank was unsuccessful or he died but has teleport. If as a jungler you don't push that wave after he recalls/died you purposely fuck up your laner. You need to know how fucked up he is after that lmao. He has a choice then, stay very low to push it in without pushing power and hope opponent doesn't tp. (Which is guaranteed 99% of the time). Or give up atleast 2 waves of minions before you can break the freeze. ( If the opponent even lets you break it, I mean you won't get help from the jungler if you can't anyway)
@Vereki4 жыл бұрын
@@BeinIan Your job as a jungler isn't to help your laners get ahead - its to secure objectives such as towers, herald, and dragons, set enemies behind with your pressure, and utilize these to win the game. Helping your laners get ahead is like a secondary objective: It can help you achieve the main goal, but isn't necessary to your job. See Karthus jg with a 55%+ win rate in high elo. He's worse at ganking than the other meta junglers (such as elise, ekko, taliyah, lee sin and so on), and his primary goal is to power farm and use his ult to get himself a huge lead so that he can solo carry the game. Some junglers that are good right now may have a stronger focus on getting laners ahead because they are early-game ganking junglers and fall off in the mid-late game, but that focus doesn't apply to the jungle role as a whole.
@Vereki4 жыл бұрын
A good example of this is also graves jungle. he just gets himself ahead, shits on the enemy jungler's life with invades, and looks for gank opportunities so that he can take objectives uncontested and gain such a lead that he's unstoppable in the mid-late game. Graves doesn't need any of his laners to get ahead to win.