How to Have the MOST Souls in EVERY Game / Deadlock guide

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[@FredTheFinch]

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[@DerfyRed]

You need to cover the rest of this game with commentary. Early game farming is decently obvious. The issue comes in mid to late game when team fights are more important. Are you leaving your team and farming solo? Are you focused on just pushing waves? Are you starting to take fights to use your early soul advantage? I’ve had plenty of games where someone has 5k more than the rest of the lobby, but that’s because they have yet to take a team fight and are still off in no man’s land farming while we lose a 5v6.

[@FredTheFinch]

@@DerfyRed I am planning on doing more vids for sure I just didnt want to release a half hour or 40 minute vid, just make them easier to consume one at a time and lets me release them more often

[@DerfyRed]

@@FredTheFinch fair enough. I look forward to it

[@shl6367]

deadlock is literally the entire shooter committee gradually picking up what it means to play dota lmao

[@KingBLUCK]

Me but LoL

[@CatfishBradley]

@@KingBLUCK Same stuff, LoL was just a DOTA rip off anyway

[@arcaneghost24]

Alternatively, it's the MOBA community wanting to really emphasize "skill diff/skill issue" in their gameplay now that the shooter elements play a factor in the game too, not just matchup + macro

[@KingBLUCK]

​​@@CatfishBradleytrue but Dota is needlessly complex, I wish I could play it but every time I learn something new I tell myself how overly complex that shit was and just go back to LoL

[@spinyslasher6586]

As a Dota player from back in the days of Dota 1, I adapted to jungling pretty fast once I got used to the jungle spawn times. One different thing is unlike in Dota, where jungle spawns happen in fixed times, here the spawn timer only starts once the jungle clears.

[@SquallL47]

I realised no matter how bad my laning phase went, if I focused on camps and minions, I would almost always equal or beat opposing players in souls gain purely because I play objective instead of skirmishing for kills that give no lead or no objective lead

[@FredTheFinch]

too many people just throw by taking unnecessary fights so this is a big w

[@SquallL47]

@gg-kr8ws it's the most fundamental part of any and all mobas. even HoTS, you still need to be near a minion dying to get exp, it's just more lenient in that game.

[@prodbysketch]

i feel like you should get more souls for killing people for this reason, but this also my first moba lol

[@a46xyonix]

The lower souls objectively given by player kills is by design it seems. It’s an objective based game with strategy and team coordination in mind. Not an fps death match

[@Kadsener]

6:41 It's better to leave the upstairs vending machine room trough the roof on both sides of the map, as it has a few boxes and golden statue too. And you can jump across the roofs for more crates while rotating to the other camps.

[@zegtronic]

this deserves to have millions of views, but i personally don't want anyone else to find it besides my deadlock buddies

[@Marhathor]

This is pretty much exactly what I needed. Might still need more general gameplay advice, like when and when not to take mid-boss, take enemy jungles, team fight, push lanes, destroy base guardians, etc. but I'm getting a decent sense of where to be on the map at any particular time.

[@FredTheFinch]

gotchu definitely have some stuff liek that in the works

[@ArtyKekw]

My man here has rtz farming pattern in deadlock

[@rtmln]

Came for the guide, stayed for the castle crashers.

[@brandtfees2625]

Hopefully people will understand that taking their jungle camps instead of pushing all the time is important so games progress and the souls difference for one person on the team won’t be insane. Idk how many games I’ve lost because I’m the only one with souls and someone on the other team got curse.

[@LockeySinned]

Castle crashes music goes insanely hard ❤

[@saberstiker19]

I camping your Deadlock content, as soon as I saw your guide and stopped building ADC Yamato I improved 15x lmao. Keep it up 👍

[@bmomosaik]

and then your teammates will be like this guy is afk jungle... we getting stomped 4v5 and this guys still not taking a hint that we are playing 4v5

[@maxowy9039]

womp womp ​@@bmomosaik

[@SidewaysAsiann]

@@bmomosaik imagine thinking farming on a damage character is a bad thing

[@CatfishBradley]

@@bmomosaik If you're taking several full team fights on 1 lane and losing, that's on everybody except the guy farming in the jungle lmao.

[@RichHeart89]

@@bmomosaik when you're behind, you only take like 3v1 fights, 4v2 fights etc. and run away to farm after those couple kills. If you're 4v5 and losing a fight you either didn't pay attention to the map and got surprised or just made a damn bad decision and threw. The guy farming is the only one catching up and doing the right thing. It's fine to die if it secures destroying an objective, it's fine to die if it saves a walker, every other death is just "I played bad and should take care to not repeat the same mistake"

[@brunobsp93]

really appreciate your work, I'm still very new to the game and kinda confused about optimal farming routes, this helped greatly!

[@BarbogDaBigFinka]

Love how this basically amounts to how to play midlane in dota 2.

[@Shorteh]

Great video! Followed your advice and instead of being among the lowest in net worth every single game I am now dominating most games I play. Thanks!

[@iambeanhead6434]

Great video man. Helped me a lot. Nice and simple. Really helps when people talk over their gameplay and explain what they’re doing and thinking.

[@Jemobulas-x]

It finally hit me! You sound almost exactly like MadSeasonShow - a famous WoW youtuber! I've watched so many of his videos and just falling into e half-meditative state from his soothing voice. You have the same effect, I love it! xD

[@Yhdyssanakoe]

Your Yamato guide made me understand the character and enjoy her, whereas before I felt useless, and now she is my most played villain (none of these geezers are heroes lol) !! :)

[@Nao0rLater]

Just saw you post and instantly liked. Thank you my dude!

[@RyGuyMemes]

The Halo music now Castle Crashers. Absolute bangers bro

[@edbj]

thanks for the guide this game has been a blast

[@DwyTheGuy]

Just so you know every time I win a game on yamato I say “shout out FredTheFinch” at the end Thanks for all the great info recently

[@leslie4149]

this guy just so smart and good at games wow

[@mis8866]

The only bad thing about Deadlock is having to deal with the FPS community. They all think they're the best things to ever grace a mouse and keyboard, while at the same time maining literally the most brainless genre of comp gaming, FPS.

[@FredTheFinch]

@@mis8866 bro what did I do to you 😭

[@Yoshi92]

Thank you for the guide and for the full match playlist! :)

[@MapleclawGD]

I respect the music choice in this video

[@ChandlerRobinsonCRV]

I hate winning my lane then just falling off much appreciated 😅

[@robertcorrales8667]

Great tips man. This is so helpful

[@KingOfKazoos]

Been struggling with low souls for a bit and after this video instantly had a game where I got 44k souls compared to the 2nd highest souls which was 35k gg

[@noble137]

ive followed your build exactly pretty much but monster rounds imo is really worth for the farm ~ edit; it lets you kill the level 3 jungle dudes early as! ty for the guides broski

[@MuscleBobBuffPants420]

no cap watched this video and most farm 14/15 last games u da goat

[@Aichomancer]

the castle crashers music just earned you a sub lol

[@m0tt498]

the castle crashers OST is a banger

[@fl-ri-]

Yamato in particular seems to be really good for this strategy, she clears camps so damn fast with that level 3 Q ability. I try to do the same when I'm offrolled on different characters but am never able to get souls as efficiently. I find on some champs clearing the lane and then farming nearby camps is efficient. On Yamato you can run between all camps and lanes and get so much cash.

[@FredTheFinch]

some heroes definitely excel at it a lot more than others, things like seven and infernus are also super good junglers and clear them crazy fast

[@byeolbyeolbyeoI]

been and will always be waiting for ur post dude. u're cracked

[@creeperithink]

love the castle crashers music (and guide)

[@sectorcodec]

I had no idea about the vending machines… good content!

[@zegtronic]

castle crasher music mixes so well with this style

[@Cris-vx6om]

I appreciate the castle crashers music

[@sunnymanlokhim]

Most important concept is understanding the map well enough to be efficient

[@hydro_ow]

THIS GUY ALWAYS MAKES BANGERS. AND I KNOW BANGERS

[@MegaJackolope]

I honestly forgot to subscribe after the last one. You got a big brain, my dude.

[@TheMetaldudeX]

I hear castle crashers music, I like the video. It’s that’s simple.

[@ObeliskEye]

Excellent stuff, thank you for the vid.

[@adriankingsize4636]

Thank you mate

[@RhysJayFTW]

castle crashers soundtrack go hard

[@spinyslasher6586]

Of course the very first game I played after this, my team ends up giving away two walkers by the 12th minute 💀 Still ended up as the most farmed player on my team thanks to this guide.

[@ikebedford2115]

This literally changed my game, I’m eclipsing the whole enemy team and carrying with all these souls

[@twaxter4625]

Great content, tried your build, was really fun. Yamato can hit

[@blisterling23]

going from playing a bunch of shooters where I'm very aggressive this is a completely different game. Playing passive and going for objective is still something I'm working on. This game is dope as hell though (really wish we could play with controller though 😭)

[@st34lth24]

I think another really important tip you haven't mentioned is that at 6:02 notice how big the orb is next to yamato. These are unsecured souls from killing jungle and if you die while holding it, the enemy can pick it up. So it's really important not to die if you have that many unsecured souls.

[@thechanglongwang]

basic info, how is it an important tip

[@veerkillerx]

@@thechanglongwang not everyone knows that, and I see a lot of dummies who do know it still pushing fights and losing it

[@thechanglongwang]

@@veerkillerx anyone with 10 hours in the game should know this, if they don't it says something about the person...

[@zaprodex]

@@thechanglongwang It's not very obvious how unsecured souls work. Know multiple good players that didn't know how it worked till many hours in. Icefrog himself acknowledged on the Discord they need to put a tutorial for it. Don't act so superior rofl.

[@thechanglongwang]

@@zaprodex no, it's not complicated at all also nice appeal to authority... can't make good arguments of your own

[@imbapanda7703]

A big hidden mechanic that a lot of people dont know is how the soul spread works. After 10 min mark souls stop being shared fully and get divided among the allies in the area. I didnt realize this at first and just sticked together with my team for the whole mid game.

[@Typ3_alpha]

Finally the "how to farm video" I've been looking for

[@Mr.Ford3350]

You neglected to mention one very important thing! Make sure you do NOT have teammates that constantly take pointless, unwinnable fights. Always hard to farm when the enemy team starts deathballing and shoving down all your objectives because your team keeps getting easily picked off 1 by 1 for the first 15 minutes of the game

[@Ne0ConKiller]

how do i do that?

[@hamadkd7017]

W castle crashers ost lol

[@SchlattCentral]

in your 361 games you had 2.4m souls, i am at 68 games with 1.9m souls. theres been games where the other team had around 25k souls at the end and im around 60k. i got a game last night where i hit 97k souls in a 43 minute game and im hoping to soon cross over into the 100k mark once i perfect my routes of farming. anyways loved the video, i hope to see more videos from you in the future :D +1 sub

[@FredTheFinch]

@@SchlattCentral the tracker is bugged but W

[@BillRatio]

This would mean you’re getting 28,000 per game. That’s actually not very much.

[@FredTheFinch]

@@BillRatio it’s just bugged of started tracking late

[@ThisIsGlitch]

Is that castle crashers ost in the background ? 😂 the nostalgia

[@HystoriaReiss]

So basicly the secret for it is knowing what in the game gives souls and when they are oppen to take , then formulate a strategy which is basicly where to start and then end the farm of those souls ( shove the lane, rotate to camps, take the camps, urns, boxes, vending machines etc ), then if theres nothing else to take, shove the lane allways and look for a roam, if not possible and lane is free look for pushing objectives, psecialy if your char is good at it.Avoid taking bad fights that are not gonna contribute long therm for the win or that likely even if your team kills them, your team loses souls overall cause there's a lot in hte map to take. As a league of legends player and valorant player csgo player etc, i understand this prety much, i lack knowledge of how does the characters work, like theire abilities etc, and also what the shop offers in general, when we get used to every buy, every char, the game basicly starts to getting reflexes and decision making based. Wanna play efficiently? Min Max soul gain and make sure your downtime is almost 0. Downtime is referd to the time you are being "usefull " on the map. For example in league , the adc role has a really low downtime, cause theire kit evolves using auto attacks to deal damage, and they can have good lifesteal for survival, so they dont depend on mana to do dps, and most of the times they can do dps from a safer distance. while mages depend on certain ranges of abilities and of course high cooldowns and mana. In deadlock the downtime can be prety low on some characters, so any second you are out of combat , or any second ur not hitting minions , objectives, jungle camps, slotmachines, skirmishes ( that are good for the team ) you are losing already a lot ! And when this game gets launched and they do ranked matchmaking, that of course they will right , this is gonna be the diference of higher ranks to lower ranks for sure. Minmaxing resources donne and minmaxing UPtime and being active on the map, will for sure be the diference of winning a game quicker , faster, and also having more fun cause u will be fed more times ! And dont be afraid anyone to try stuff and engage more fights now, its not ranked, we are all learning the game, its good to " limit test " , so you can know how strong is your character, how strong are enemy characters, how strong is your team comp, how to position, how to poke, how to pick off, how to harass, how to kite etc etc. Good games !

[@HystoriaReiss]

AFter watching the video i tried by myself your tips of the video and also stuff i knew that i mentioned on my commet, i was top dmg we end up losing hard but still i was top dmg, but not top souls, but i had diference of over 8-10k souls of my team, game got so much fun now that i can see how to build a lead to win more duels and get more picks

[@JaguarGames1337]

i do exactly this on haze, people dont expect the ricochet + unstoppable so early so i get easy team wipes

[@JeanHirt-r6o]

castle crashers ost goes hard

[@TheDanneSWE]

Castlecrashers music, my man!

[@charlied1420]

Thanks for this! I’m an fps dude with little moba experience (smite). This is super helpful!

[@nvvv_]

3:30 and if you're seven and you're ready to farm, don't forget your mystic reach! Seriously, I screw that up all the time and just stare at my giant lightning ball sitting perfectly in the middle of a camp, hitting nothing.

[@DoctorNerf]

Farming is so not punishing as well because your team dying in midgame is not THAT bad. The only problem can be urn running. Other than that ziplines let you def walkers / join fights late.

[@Sjon_E]

lets say you slam your lane, you're up 4 kills, you take guardian anywhere from 6-7 minutes, would you say it's generally better to 1:farm 2:continue to pressure the lane or 3: help other lanes that are struggling? I often find myself in this position where I will destroy my lane but don't really get how to keep my momentum from there, if I push to walker I might do a good amount of damage to it but I'll get picked off in a pinch, farming usually means I lose that lane's guardian (which I guess isn't a huge deal), and ganking is kind of a gamble because a lane might have destroyed your teammates and you're walking into certain death.

[@FredTheFinch]

so just like in this game, you go and farm but keep your wave pushed up. you want to make sure that your guardian isnt going down (to the best of your ability if 3 people push it you can do anything obv) while you take down the neutral camps. You also gank when you have a good opportunity, if you were close to a lane while farming and one person is pressuring athe guardian then you can collapse on them

[@gSys1337]

Here is the short version: After minute 7, when jungle monsters spawn, you start farming them. But keep an eye on the mini map to not loose your tower.

[@NeverUseAnApostrophe]

*lose.

[@dragskope1431]

Glad this video isnt about lane leaching

[@FredTheFinch]

soaking is something that is super strong rn but will almost definitely be gutted, and imo if you want to improve its more important to learn how the game works fundamentally rather than exploiting things that are almost definitely going to be changed drastically or taken out later

[@borplex]

The jumper background track brings back memories

[@taserrr]

This is exactly the reason I keep telling people this game is far more MOBA than it is a shooter.

[@Shefetoful]

another thing worth noting: avoid dying. even for a 1 for 1 "trade" unless the enemy is really popping off. I'm sure you already know this and have lowest deaths for a reason! you are trying to be a fast farmer, if you and your enemy are both dying then the faster farmer, which should be you, has lost more for it

[@KairiCaitlyn]

tysm for this

[@CorruptHope]

Great guide, thanks

[@RegularlyRegular]

The bottom left creeps are fine to get when you can zipline, been trying to incorporate it as a free double jump to get between camps and making fast farm routes

[@MARIOFANMAN]

I believe getting the bottom left camps is worth it due to the sheer concentration of crates and statues as well as it's not actually that hard to navigate between them with wall jumping and clambering

[@FredTheFinch]

People have been saying this so it might be a lil more worth than I thought they’re still so out of the way but I could be wrong

[@scientistong]

this man is right, dota too is about farming patterns haha

[@ValentineIsDead]

never sorry about your dogs. Just waiting for guide with dogs!

[@AngeloAx2]

One thing I see a lot of people doing is going for the jg at the worst times possible, sometimes even letting walkers get destroyed for the sake of farming. I think the best way you can farm is to realized when you need to help the lane or go for a split push instead of farming. Split pushing is so good in the low mmr games because most people tunnel vision into tfs.

[@FredTheFinch]

yea like i said just making sure your wave is always pushed is super important so you dont just give for free

[@Retalak]

I didn't even know some of these camps existed 😭

[@blight01]

song hits hard

[@LumberchukStudios]

I feel like part of the reason this works is most games your team never farms the camps. I predict as people get better these camps wont be available as much as it becomes standard practice to clear them as they spawn. The farm will end up being spread over more players. And they have a fairly long spawn time (compared to say dota)

[@Tr3ysk1]

the castle crashers music

[@FUZ2706]

The only thing that's annoying is if you have another person trying to farm neutrals as much as you, all the camps are gonna be gone

[@user-gi7rr3xv9g]

LOVE THE DOGS

[@MrNinjability]

FredFinch is the way

[@Nathanimal]

Castle crasher soundtrack 👌

[@brillnanda666]

I played against a funnel farm yamato where all her teammates just gave her all the farm she had a 10k soul lead in 15 mins. Im not kidding everytime she comes back to lane she had 1k or 2k more souls than me.

[@intelligentbot944]

When you have 1 bullet left you should alt fire on creeps. When you are about to finish the reload you should charge heavy melee and if you time it right the melee is completely free and doesn’t take up reload time. Same with using the 1 ability, it won’t pause reload if you do it at the end

[@hessien69]

the gd music in the bg makes this video funny af to me

[@ckurtz]

Castle crashers music fire

[@mdnght5592]

castle crashers st playong throughout the whole video 😂

[@FredTheFinch]

@@mdnght5592 goated game

[@sanswag]

never be sorry abt your dogs bro... i hecking love puppies..

[@SoulGaleo1992]

It's a shame how many people in my games just teamfight the rest of the game after laning phase, rather than farm camps and split push. This game rewards macro play way more than constantly fighting.

[@Ne0ConKiller]

because thats boring

[@Munax.]

Thanks for that.

[@frankjr.3916]

Castle crashers OST 🎶🎶

[@N00bie666]

TLDW: Jungle like literally every MOBA known to man

[@FredTheFinch]

@@N00bie666 not everyone has 10k hours in other dotas so we have to learn everything anew

[@MeMyselfAndK]

W WaterFlame fan

[@JayjiNZ]

This game is way more fun when you get good enough not to need to farm for ever to compete

[@FredTheFinch]

So when you get better the lobbies also get better so unless you are the best player in the entire game by far this will never be the case

[@Localpref416]

You should mention how Yamoto can start a reload then use 1, it reduces kill times by a lot (when done at every camp it adds up)even with the gun build.

[@BarryMcBangerz]

Thanks a bunch. Do you think if one has a significant lead and really wins their lane they could have more of an impact looking for other lanes to win with their teammates, or is it typically better to focus more on farming early still?

[@FredTheFinch]

you CAN but its just a lot more risky since if you go for like walker youre super susceptible to ganks and its always safer to just farm

[@RyGuyMemes]

Also is Yamato's 2 bugged rn? The rope has been breaking on my a lot lately. Like I remember last week being able to hook onto someone and follow them on the zipline to their base but now it drops around corners and stuff.

[@FredTheFinch]

its honestly always been buggy just have to live with it tbh

[@fidelis--ddd]

Castle Crasher pilled