How to Holocure: Items Revisited

[@tienhuytruong1362]

one thing he forgot to mention is that coco is the only character can negate the debuff of the asacoco item for free... cause it's coco

[@harlannguyen4048]

He'll most likely bring that up in his Coco video

[@ununun9995]

And negate gorilla paw and make it heal her

[@katier9725]

@@ununun9995 What's this about gorilla paw?

[@updateguypls1088]

"Energy drink is an underwhelming item" Instructions unclear, Noel is still tanky but now her hammer SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

[@sploosh5432]

"devil hat can only be used every 20 seconds" instructions unclear, towa special go rbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

[@beornwagner1]

11:00 I'm almost completely certain the cooldown on Devil's Hat is _from when it activates_ not _from when it ends_ . The reason the cooldown exists is to stop you from using it on Haachama or the new Bae and stack it over and over.

[@__Rasse__]

No, the 20 second cooldown starts after the buff runs out.

[@jaydenly8153]

There was one Super Collab you missed. I guess here is my personal take. Idol Live. It takes The Idol Concert Collab and the Idol Costume item. Idol Live reduces the cooldown on your special and also grants a 50% boost to all your stats for 10 seconds. (30 second cooldown) Personally I mainly use it on Characters that buff themselves with their special like Gura, Moona or my personal favorite Kaela. But it does make the panic button idea even more effective due to the major stat increase.

[@Srelathon]

One item you're MASSIVELY underrating is Membership. Its ONLY drawback is a measly 3 coins lost every second for a whopping 50% damage boost and 25% damage reduction. If you're playing the game completely normally the buff will never run out. Legitimately one of the best items in the game right now and definitely needs a nerf.

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Just don't. Nerfs should be a LAST RESORT. At most 0.8 could bring an alternative to it. A Nerf is only reasonable if it truly is breaking the game, which for such a polished SP game, it isn't. It isn't doing what Greed stamp + Marine could (pop SO MANY COINS as to LAG even beefy RAM and CPU core power Rigs)

[@luigifan001]

Why are you playing to get LESS holocoins???

[@DeviousHands]

​@@luigifan001for gachikoi achievement hunting. membies guarantees a won run, even ignoring the fact the best holocoin farm build uses it, so unless you're very early in holocure it's a fantastic pickup

[@ridwana4037]

I'd probably try using membership with Marine or coin based characters on hard difficulty with Halu. But yeah, I don't want a nerf for this.

[@Srelathon]

@@ridwana4037 You VASTLY overestimate the number of coins you lose from Membership. It's 3 coins per second, aka 180 coins per minute, or 3600 coins in 20 minutes. That is NOTHING. You will get FAR more than that in a single game just from random coin drops and Holozon Boxes.

[@PierceArner]

Study Glasses + Researcher Coat + Limiter + Corp Pin + Halu is an amazing setup for Roboco because she gains the batteries from dropped enemies allowing her to stun and gain boosted stats from levels from basically anywhere on screen. The bigger AoE from Limiter + Corp Pin means it's easier to keep from being damaged for longer, which boosts the overall XP gain from the Researcher Coat. Study Glasses & Limiter both have a chance to drop as Super Items as well to boost that effectiveness even further. The other mention is the Candy Kingdom Sweets which is also really important for characters who have an ability to proc a status effect, because it has a chance to hit a second time. With the Focus Shades or a ton of status triggering Stamps, this means that you can more reliably proc the status on everything, but especially with Biboo's stamp with characters who have a big AoE on their base weapon.

[@seki108]

Membership feels like a slept on item for many I see playing the game on KZbin.

[@jimmyjohnjoejr]

It's breastplate but better

[@saninorochimaru2]

Membership is an amazing item, but consider that most people playing either probably don't have it or don't grind the game enough to know what everything does.

[@Jaxter0987]

Membership is likely slept on by most people playing on KZbin because most people playing on youtube haven't farmed enough coins to ignore the cost of Membership. I've seen people literally go finish a run, dump the money they get into the upgrades shop (in an inefficient way I might add)/ gacha and then start up another run. There are people that haven't and won't touch Holo House to make the coin grind easier. As someone who has put enough hours into the game to buy out the shop, have G rank 21 on every character and all their outfits, Membership is literally all upside to me. The cost is a drop in the bucket compared to what my workers in Holo House are bringing in and the only coin sink I have left are the "scam" upgrades in the Casino which I can just slowly accumulate the coins over time. But the most likely reason is that there are a lot of new players. I don't know what it is but the 0.7 update brought so many more new players into the game. Or at least KZbin is making it seem that way as everyday, KZbin seems to be recommending me a new Holocure vid/ stream that I haven't seen before.

[@BlueDavrial]

You're severely overlooking how good Headphones are, especially on the newly added Marine. They're absolutely amazing if you want to be constantly near enemies but not dying

[@Yenrei]

The value of Full Meal as an item (not necessarily a healing item) is also in that it only has one level. Get it, and it's removed from the pool. Easier to level up optimally, and more levels to spend on stats.

[@Murmur_3565]

Some inaccuracies and my opinions, reply to this comment if you want to add something 3:05 only membership has the damage reduction gets increase per level AND if you pair body pillow with membership, you are now much much harder to kill as i had a scenario myself died using other healing items than using body pillow with membership 3:21 no... Breastplate actually is fixed to 25%, not increasing leveling up, a good thing but it ties with membership with the same 25% damage reduction at full level 5:08 no its not underwhelming, you get a ton of speed which is always gives survivability but also small haste at the cost of 20hp, its a good item to have when using on a ranged and might be all characters 5:16 NO DONT USE THAT STAMP, it reduces damage of your main weapon by 20% but only gives 40% speed boost, this is unconfirmed but you cant use shackles to negate it and compare that to other stamps, just get better stamps and stamps to begin with are RNG soo its not even guranteed you'd get that particular stamp 5:38 infinite BL works not only gives crit damage but also crit chance (edit: apparently the crit chance only applies to the books themselves, bummer but hey atleast they cover a very large area) soo its a decent item and might be for those who has high crits 6:40 at the lowest youd get tiny amount of holocoins at the end of the run but youd mainly use it on hard modes (which gives a lot of coins) or with shackles 10:39 there are better crit boosting items in the game than sake? (outside supercollabs and superitems) Focus shades is only for ranged and multishot weapons, Promise Tiara? that thing is eh if you dont have rng on your side, GWS only applies when youre recharging, thats not better than sake, so like none?...

[@TKDB13]

I would say you undervalue the Speed boost of Energy Drink. Speed is very helpful for avoiding enemy attacks, and the speed stamp is hardly a straightforward substitute since stamp slots are easily just as competitive as items. (Not to mention it's a straight up bad stamp for characters with a strong primary weapon that's a major part of their damage output even in the late game.) And it's certainly the best of the speed-boosting items, since Ninja Headband's offensive boost is way too narrow to be worthwhile in most builds, and Stolen Piggy Bank's huge PUR penalty seriously hurts your leveling without compensating for it in some way. By comparison, the HP decrease from Energy Drink isn't that bad as defensive tradeoffs go, and its Haste bonus, while far from the strongest offensive buff for your item slot, is still not bad at all. I wouldn't call it a must-pick, and I wouldn't take it if you're primarily just looking for offense, but it's easily best-in-slot if you're looking for more mobility.

[@ReRoute25]

It would be really funny if you can get a Super Halu.

[@postapocalypse0763]

It becomes hardcore mode but gives you stat boosts for coins collected. That would be hilarious

[@autemsicarius]

I think Corp Pin+Knightly Milk+Limiter combo is also perfect for Moona.

[@TrollCapAmerica]

Im a big adfvocate of Limiter asnd PUR in general. Staying in a small area and collecting all EXP helps limit your exposure to enemies and ensures they all have to walk through devery bit of damage you are dropping on the field. The fact that it can now turn into a Super Limiter thanks to the change to Super Items is another great bonus stacking alongside the Glass and Halu I always get

[@Someone-lf3pu]

Fun fact: Raven feather have a weird interaction with Kiara's special, if you revive with Kiara's special while equipping raven feather, you will lose the gained ATK and 50% coins and if you revive with her special again, YOU LOSE ALL OF THEM AGAIN. I'm guessing equipping it with chicken feather work the same too so do not use it with Kiara or chicken feather if you don't know what you're doing

[@zaxtonhong3958]

13:47

[@Someone-lf3pu]

​@@zaxtonhong3958He said their revive function are the same, while what I said is raven feather's demerits can be activated multiple times, what's your point?

[@zaxtonhong3958]

“If you’re [using] raven’s feather, don’t get this item since that will be more times you lose your damage boost and half your coins” You said “you’re guessing” chicken feather works like that, so I was pointing to the part of the video that says it works like that

[@Someone-lf3pu]

@@zaxtonhong3958 Oh yeah he just said it lightly without elaborate it so I didn't catch that, my bad

[@Aldo-ih7oi]

Endless friend here. Halu, Glasses, Lab Coat and Kaela shades are a staple. Its a luckfest afterwards with the anvil spawns and success rates, enchantments, gold/silver Yagoo spawns, super items, etc.

[@hijiriyukari]

Love the update vid Here are some of my thoughts Anya has a good synergy with Corp Pin Labcoat is a good item for self-impose challenge Shackles should need another buff The tradeoff items detriments aren't that troublesome to sacrifice one slot for Shackles(specially with characters that has good synergy with the tradeoff).

[@YoukoZuki]

I think it would be cool if there is a super collab that utilizes Shackle. That way, you can get one free slot for another item.

[@bozidarkostoski9104]

@@YoukoZuki maybe like a soul shacle collab that negates all effects but not by 100% maybe by 70% when you supper collab it that could be fun

[@unoriginalname6604]

Yeah, Shackles is damn near useless. When you get better at the game, you kinda just deal with the drawbacks some items give. I think Shackles should give some sort of stat buff for every item it negates the drawbacks of, and it should be a _sizeable_ buff as well considering how rarely it pops up in the EXP Lvl Up menu, and how many items with drawbacks you need to get to make Shackles a worthwhile pickup.

[@farisanwari777]

Maybe the super collab shackle negates debuffs aswell as item drawbacks? Tho the only debuff sources I know are the red and blue clowns

[@bozidarkostoski9104]

@@farisanwari777 i dont think so they made a change to aki where her skill "bellydance" negates those debuffs while active i think it will not be her specialty anymore if they made a supercollab that removes or negates those debuffs for everyone but they definitelly should try and make more characters where those debuff fand dont affect them

[@ThMrksman]

If you're already running Jingiskan or really any other healing items or skills, then Plushie is seriously underrated. You will typically be healing that damage back over the time the "poison" takes to tick down, so in practical terms it's effectively a 90% damage reduction. A great example of an item that looks awful in theory, but is incredible in practice.

[@Lohpezhoh]

Researcher's coat is at its strongest when doing hardcore endless. It's still strong on non-hardcore endless but not as strong as it was on 0.6. In 0.7 is one of the 3 items (the least preferred one) to fill the last item spot on non-harcore endless (the choice being between Milk-Raven-Coat) and I'd say it's stronger users would be Fauna and Flare who can do hardcore even on harder stages + any character on s1-s2 endless since those are done in hardcore (if you go for leaderboards). On stage mode imo is meh at Best

[@boogrs55]

My dumbass when haste go brrrrrrrrr

[@monster25man]

thank you VERY much for this, I needed this badly

[@giaaivu523]

I pretty much always use the coat with glasses, except on certain characters whom it doesn't work well like ollie. I usually reach lvl 50 (allowing you to get super collab) at around 10 min mark with both items. Without the coat it can take up to 12 min. Getting supper collab earlier mean more kill = even more exp

[@cheep5645]

Forgot the idol costume super collab btw, nice video otherwise

[@PTschreiben]

The super chicken feather has an annoying tendency to show up while I have the raven feather equipped. This happens even when I banned the chicken feather in the armory.

[@eternitydisplay07]

Nowadays I went with mostly full damage related trade-off items build which I could constantly make thanks to armory customization Compared to my usual balanced defense+healing build along with idol live super collab I would say this is a very nice change for me Still I wouldn't recommend it unless you're good at running and avoiding attacks

[@pa1nkil3er]

Seems like I'm the only fan of getting items that do sth with pick up range, lol. I usually go Corporate + limiter on characters like Moona, for example. I just love how even main weapon hits half if not more arena in your screen)

[@mr.tv001]

holocoins do not matter for any run exept for when youre farming for them because the amount of holocoins gained in a single run is basically spare change but on the other side when youre farming for them you get so many that 4k is literally unnoticeable

[@windwatcher460]

I'd put membership in the defensive item list and halu in the xp item list

[@iceseal7765]

I thought the new book super collab has the new highest dps of any weapon? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I saw someone say it in the discord server

[@preoklenthe]

I love playing as Matsuri with headphones+plushie+nurse's horns+breastplate+bandaid+Pikipikipiman/beetle/full course meal. No weapons necessary, instill the fear of GOD upon the enemy,

[@rkade1486]

The trade-offs are most of my build.

[@cl0k3]

Important note that Jingisukan sucks on Choco and Mel now. Snow Flower Sake is Choco's BIS supercollab as her skill cares about crir chance.

[@Victor-ei8lc]

It's good to note that jingisukan is now only used if the character in question has some form of direct benefit from healing. In cases outside of that, pretty much nothing comes close to holy fire due to it's multiplicative damage boost Edit: also forgot to mention that the overflow crit is multiplicative with crit damage

[@brandongreen4439]

Only thing I can think of is someone like Korone who's building health anyways and wants that Piki

[@Victor-ei8lc]

@@brandongreen4439 nah, the boost from holy fire is already higher than what jingi gives to piki without any hp upgrades

[@TrollCapAmerica]

I still use Jingus to not die on most characters. I only get comfortable with Holy Fire if I am absolutely sure I have enough coverage on screen to kill everything before it hjas a chance to hit me

[@Victor-ei8lc]

@@TrollCapAmerica i'd say that the healing items work well enough for me

[@TaIathar]

Breastplate's Damage reduction does NOT increase with level.

[@bozidarkostoski9104]

not a bad video but many things are being projected by what you dont want us to get. and how some items are bad... nothing is bad everything has its own use... for a new player this can be very confusing and also limiter now is actually more viable not just on aqua... sana anya and noel benefit extremely from it milk is by far not the better version of limiter knockback works on hit and makes it so that each time an enemy gets hit gets more and more knockback resitant the later on you go the more useless it becomes unless its in combination with something else

[@NarrowSpark96]

From a PUR and KB perspective yeah, I agree. But you need a level 2/3 or 3/2 Limiter and Corporation Pin to surpass the 20% Size boost from Milk, which is by far more valuable on most characters than +250 pickup range. And of the two characters he didn't mention in the video, Noel doesn't even have PUR scaling?

[@bozidarkostoski9104]

@@NarrowSpark96 she has a size scaling (not sure of her skill name but one of her skills increases her damage reduction based on "weapon size up" and it can go up to 60% dmg reduction so corpo/limiter/knight milk and breastplate are the core items for her her main weapon scales in size based on her max hp aswell and her special give her another 25% size up to everything)

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

nah everything related to pick up range is terrible. even with charactera that actually scale with it you're better off getting more damage.

[@psyky]

Does the 2nd hit from candy not have a chance to proc skills that require hits?

[@Matt-eq4xu]

damage reduction on breastplate doesnt increase in levels though. Its super variant is the one increases its damage reduction

[@Slaydrian]

Good catch. I accidentally mixed that part up with membership which does increase damage reduction with level up, though both have the same amount of damage reduction at max level.

[@NarrowSpark96]

Risu would also like piggy bank to keep DLC running. Maybe Marine as well, but it's also Marine and 20% crit is not that much. Also, reminder that Kusogaki Shackles DO work on Halu. It impacts the enemy boost, not the enemy spawn rate.

[@bozidarkostoski9104]

no it doesnt shacles specifically says "negative effects inflicted on you" not the enemy so enemies are stronger and spawn more often kay-yu the developer has confirmed this in the past

[@kubomagico8853]

Shackles don't work on Halu

[@fragmentedrose7401]

Shackles do not work on halu and never have

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

I can't fathom why all the proximity effects don't work with pick up range. that stat is almost entirely useless even with the new item.