How-to: Hot Rod Ford Model A Steering.

[@rodderbob]

Good discussion of the various options to get the job done. I've got an NOS set of Moog Willys tie rod ends that I've informed a number of people what and how they're used as you explained. I'm amazed at how many of them don't get it, so congrats to you for making a good visual.

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

I love the old hot rod tricks like that. I have several sets hidden away.

[@shartne]

cool old ford

[@michaelgillespie1206]

Good info man, its something ive been wanting to know more about.

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thanks!

[@tomwilkinson2184]

Thanks Matt, I have learned a lot from you. Enjoy the weekend Tom

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thanks for watching!

[@phillipshotrodgarage]

Good information! Thanks for the video as always.

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thanks for watching!

[@donaldcochrane3283]

Like that drop the drop tie rod end i never Sean these before I've been in to hot rodding. Lots of years and reading very old hot rod maggzine. Haven't sean this type o end

[@hotrodmyk]

Good stuff Matt!

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thank you sir!

[@jgwilliams5951]

Thanks , I learned a lot

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thanks for watching!

[@Thisoldboat106]

Perfect timing I’m dealing with this myself love your videos !!

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thanks so much!

[@dax6376]

Great informative vid, thanks for posting Matt 👍❤️

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MizTori]

I’ve got a 1938 Right hand drive Hillman Minx. It had the original worm drive so I’m converting it to cross steering.

[@dennissanborn3159]

i like how you do your show. with that said I'm 70 and would love to own one of the toys but! fenders have a place in the artwork of a car. even if it's cycle fenders. keep in mind i live in new England.

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

We definitely love fenders here too. This car is being set up as if you drove to the lakes and stripped the fenders, lights, windshield, etc off and went racing. Susie the blue channeled roadster has cycle fenders and my daily driver truck is full fenders as well and will remain that way as long as I have it. Anyways, sorry for the long reply... Thanks for watching!

[@rscruiser3533]

Oh what a ---- DRAG ----- it was today -- till I ----- LINKED ---- up to your video ---- you got me ----- STEERING ---- in the right direction ------ you made my----- CONROL ARM ----- type in a comment ------ went through the ------ CASTLE NUT ----- and it wasn't even edited -------- The true ----- COTTER PIN ----- ended up with the true story ------------- Thanks Matt ---- and the Best to You ----- Rodney

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Thanks for watching, Rodney! Busy week. Just getting to everyone's replies today!

[@elkoposo686]

I like the idea of the Willys & Ford pickup the-rod joints being used. With the combination you've got here and it may just be the camera angles not showing the set up clearly, but wouldn't you have scrub line issues having the tye-rod configured 'so low'? Would the spindle steering arms need to be bent down so low, with those pick up truck the rod ends? I'd say, probably not. What anyone building and configuring any such steering system should avoid is having hard steel component hanging lower than the wheel rim radius. What this means is you don't want anything lower than the four rims of your car 'with out any tires mounted to those rims'! Why? Because, down the road, should you get a blow out of any of your tires (particularly at high speed on asphalt), your car will still roll on your steel rim and ensure no hard steel component will dig into the hard asphalt and potentially flip your car! Think Robert Williams painting, 'Hot Rod Race'!!! It's called a scrub line (a scrub plane might be a more accurate description), because nothing should scrub below it from wheel to wheel - front to back, left to right and diagonally either. Do some research if you're not quite getting what i'm saying here. It's important! Even on Banger and Speedster type 'slower' cars!!!

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

I may have cut the part where I say that originally I had intended to use straight tie rods, but didn't get things low enough. The truck tie rods are a later addition just to get things moving. The arms definitely don't need to be that low. And These are very close to scrub line and certainly a concern and regardless of that, I don't like how low they hang. We'll be making some adjustments in the future. I like to show how things actually went vs. Editing it so it looks like I got it perfect, first try. Anyways. Appreciate you looking out on that important safety issue and thanks for watching!

[@heres2ya]

i've used 1948-1964 ford f-150 1.5 drop tie rods ends. the set is about $60 bucks on amazon

[@JRMorgan1000]

Do ya know if the Speedway steering arms will work on a stock '39 Ford spindle?

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

I don't know that they'll clear the wishbone.

[@JRMorgan1000]

ok...Thanks@@Seattle_Speed_Shop

[@danontherun5685]

You probably already know about them. I used a 4runner steering column to solve dropped axle, side shaft with up pitman arm. I don't know if there are non power steer 4runner boxes.

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

I've seen Toyota boxes used several times. Seems like a good option for a guy. The stuff I build I just use old Ford junk. I've got so much of it I never bothered to branch out. Lol thanks for watching!

[@danontherun5685]

If you find one grab a hudson or essex, cheap cause they ain't fords but much better built, no wood, parallel springs and really strong frames. I'm near done with a 32 essex 4 door bought new in Seattle. Stretched it for a 300 6, 3 speed, 9"/3.10 gears and F1 dropped axle with disc brakes and moon roof from 60 bird, super cruiser. Know of a prewar upholsterer that ain't booked for the next century? I was with the other Matt when he was up here checking out a pals 33 ardun head coupe couple years back.@@Seattle_Speed_Shop

[@edwardkelly2563]

Do you feel the model a steering Box will hold up to sixty seventy miles an hour. Great information thank you very much

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

I would think it should be fine. As long as it's in good working order, that is. Some crazy hot rodder went 136 mph in 1938 in a model A 4 cylinder roadster at the dry lakes. I imagine it was a fairly stock vehicle. Besides the engine mods

[@marshallcrank]

Isn't that Pittman arm outside in.or am I wrong?

[@Seattle_Speed_Shop]

Service manual shows it this way. We're gonna turn it the other way, though for other reasons. More on that later.